I've tried everything. Bulking, cutting, ottermode, bloatlord, cardio + calisthenics, pure weightlifting, SSGOMAD, and everything inbetween. No matter what I do, I'm fricking invisible to women. When I lost a tinder date because I revealed that I was less than 6.0' tall (5'10.5), I realized that only height matters. So I bit the bullet and got leg extension surgery, only for another tinder date to notice the scars and run away as if I was some sort of freak. How the frick are you supposed to get a roastie to show you the light of day??? Everything I do is a fricking failure because I'm slightly shorter than some arbitrary roastie bullshit height limit. Is spine and/or neck extension surgery a viable option? Or am I just destined to be a fricking manlet genetic fricking failure for my whole life???
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Have you tried being an interesting person? Physical attraction gives you a foot in the door, but it's not everything.
Like that's going to make a difference when no roastie will even look at me
OP's idea of "interesting" is wearing a fedora and trench coat
sounds like you're on the verge of reaching the only conclusion that manlets like you ever reach
now there's a neck surgery that also boosts height. Very helpful post anon!
I know you're joking, but neck extension exercises are unironically the final redpill. I increased my height by 2 inches over a six month period by doing 3x10 sets of neck extensions daily
video or at least pic of end result? I don't want to look like picrel but 2 inches would be a game changer
I'm surprised that this gay thread isn't dead yet kek. Anyway, this diagram should show you how my neck extension exercises work. Basically, you need two surfaces like tables or the like, and put them close enough together that your jaw can rest on both at the same time. Then, you pick up your feet just slightly so you can feel your neck muscles stretching. I usually do this every other day, 5 for one minute each
I refuse to believe you do this. if it turns out you're not lying, fit has reached a new low
just stop having sex : )
Buy a dog, you'll forget all about women when you have a loving beast with a tight wet pussy who loves you unconditionally.
>In October 1958, the International Committee on Weights and Measures made a recommendation that the meter be defined in atomic terms (specifically in terms of the orange line of krypton-86). To secure identical values for the yard and pound in precise measurements, representatives of six English-speaking nations—Australia, Canada, New Zealand, South Africa, United States and United Kingdom—agreed to adopt a common 'international yard and international pound'. According to that agreement, the international yard equals 0.9144 meters and the international pound equals 0.45359237 kilograms.[1] The international yard was about two millionths of a meter longer than the imperial yard, while the international pound was about six ten-millionths of a kilogram lighter than the imperial pound.[13]
>The international yard and pound agreement of July 1959 defined the length of the international yard in the United States and countries of the Commonwealth of Nations as exactly 0.9144 meters. Consequently, since a foot is one third of a yard, the international foot is defined to be equal to exactly 0.3048 meters. This was 2 ppm shorter than the previous US definition and 1.7 ppm longer than the previous British definition.[23]
Step 1. Become international diplomat.
Step 2. Get aforementioned agreement amended-make "one yard" shorter in relation to the meter, thusly making the "foot" shorter and increasing your numerical height.
Step 3. Frick b***hes.
increase your social and persuasions skills you idiot
You think I haven't tried? I could sell a used car to Scott Adams and I still strike out with roasties every single time. I might as well have "< 6.0' tall" branded on my forehead
>be me, your height almost exactly
>get female attention all the time
It just works
>taking a manlet who lifts seriously
Wtf else am I supposed to do? I'm at a complete loss
Shut up fricking worthless lanklet
the way I see it, you have two choices
>rope
or
>transition, then rope
why does he look shorter every time I see this picture
>There's still a dwarf that draws breath in Moria!
Tldr demoralization thread. You will always be brown/israeli
Have you tried being french?
French people seem to be immune to height requirements.
I've seen 5'4 french dudes with dimes, they weren't even well off!
How the frick is that supposed to help me? Do you think I'm French?
Because I'm what? Spit it out lanklet
You could become french. Just start acting flamboyant and get a lisp.
Same with Italians. My neighbour is a 5'6, balding, chubby guy from Sardinia and he's banging women left and right.
no, he's not.
Bet he is. I've seen guys like that pull impossibly hot women. Mediterranean men have perfected manlet aggression into a form that makes them seem dangerous and exciting to women
t. Mediterranean incel
If you would leave your parents' basement from time to time, you'd know that plenty of ugly men are getting laid.
Yeah, maybe the ones that are over 6.0' fricking tall. If you're not then you get filtered by these roastie bullshit height requirements as if your looks, status, and wealth don't mean a fricking thing
Yeah but we don't live in Sardinia you fricking useless idiot. Here in America every roastie seems to be able to tell exactly how tall you are down to the fricking inch
I think its because you're
Have you tried asking one out on a date?
he'll need about a year of HRT before a man will say yes
Uhh OP, I don't know if anyone told you yet, but just be yourself.
Go up to her and say hi.
It's not hard.
there's only so much rejection a man can take before he decides to become a woman
I'm sorry OP, but I just don't have sympathy for you at all.
You are a man as am I. We both want the same thing: women. The less men I have to deal with trying to compete for the girls I want, the better.
Please continue being a depressed sack of shit, you only help my cause.
That's just how it's going to be OP.
Tinder sucks.
I’m 6’4, athletic, blue eyed, starting a career as a lawyer. Am bald tho. Still you’d think getting tinder dates would be easy. It’s not.
you didn't try mtf transition. women will not leave me alone and constantly try to fix me now.
stop seething for one second and listen to our advice. many people lead happy lives post-transition, you don't have to keep suffering like this
>Forgot to approach women
This is how Eliot Rodger died, you know
You think I haven't tried? Wtf is wrong with all you useless fricking bots
I'm not ugly, and I'm not a videogame playing freak. I make almost 6 figures and I have a wide array of hobbies. None of that seems to matter to these fricking roasties though
I know plenty of ugly Manlets who made it. Try not being a videogame playing freak
OP do you play a lot of vidya? if so, it's another good reason to transition, as it'll make you more competitive in speedrunning
For the last time I'm not a fricking troony you weird frick! All I want is to not be seen as a freak for the crime of being under 6.0' tall
Despite what dudes on IST will tell you, women don’t put that much stock into how a man looks. Especially when they are looking for a long term partner.
Women care immensely about what a man looks like. This is utter bullshit. That said, you don’t have to be a male model or over 6’ tall to get laid. It would certainly help.
If you want to do better with women the #1 thing you can possibly do is improve your appearance.
>Women care immensely about what a man looks like
This is a vast oversimplification. But if you are average, you are fine, invisible to women, but totally fine. You don’t stick out or make them excited, but you aren’t disqualified immediately.
It’s a fact that men put way more stock In appearance, and they project this trait onto women, but it doesn’t work that way.
No, they do.
Looks override any autism
Bullshit you got LL, post pics. Anyway, claim 6’0” tall and wear 2 inch shoe lifts, it’s such an obvious solution.
6'2 is the new 6'0, and 4 inch lifts are going to be noticeable no matter what
I did say I have no sympathy for you OP.
Survival of the fittest. Pound sand. Become a monk instead, at least that's honorable.
anon Im a manlet and my gf is the same height as me, who tf cares
open relationship? I could never
If you were interesting it wouldn't matter
Bullshit, I make almost 6 figures and followed every PUA tip and piece of advice out there to increase my chances. Nope, doesn't matter, all that matters is being 6.0' fricking tall
So you hobbies include listening to men tell you how to behave around women.
Yeah OP I'm stunned, you sound like a modern day Casanova.
women find men and their hobbies "interesting" only if the basic requirements (height, jawline, etc) are met first
in fact roasties only ever feign this interest so Chad will put up with them for more than two seconds
So wtf am I supposed to do if I'm automatically disqualified because I didn't tick the box if being 6.0' tall? I'm fricking desperate for an answer and all I'm getting is useless fricking bullshit replies
Have you tried moving? Perhaps you live in some normie hell hole like ER did. SEAmaxxing perhaps?
Never ceases to amaze me how blackpilled Black folk claim to have women "figured out", yet they can never seem to agree on what it is that actually matters.
One minute they're telling you it's height, the next it's face, infinitesimally small bode ticknesse, then something about wood growth grades or aerodynamic pitches.
Starting to think this is all some israeli psyop.
it's simple: you're either OP or Chad
its height, face, frame. simple as that blue pill cuck. you know the answer but you dont want to face it.
>one girl is scared off by surgery scars
>"should I get more surgery scars???"
I believe this story and don't see it as weird demoralization or AI training.
anon, your entire civilization is collapsing and it's taking the dating pool with it. To get waterlogged on a sinking boat isn't a personal failure, nor can it be fixed with surgery or drugs or a program. There's very little that can be done at this stage, so don't stress out or you'll be tired even before you have to start swimming.
You were already tall enough to get a girl. If you really tried any of that shit, you were already attractive enough to get a girl. All you can do now is maintain a girl-shaped hole in your life and keep interacting with girls until one of them wants to fill it. Just don't sabotage yourself by filling in the hole, or by giving up and becoming repulsive to the kind of woman you'd like.
its height face frame. anything else is cope.
Anon, just lie and say you're 6'0" and wear catapillar work boots.
Next try being yourself
the final and ultimate cope
>invisible to women
OK... here is a freebee
STOP trying to appeal to many women and instead try appealing to one woman.
You are using a net instead of a rifle... and your net has HUGE holes.
So instead concentrate on ONE woman.
That is it... sage advice.
Be careful telling OP to "appeal to one woman". I could imagine this manlet homosexual following your advice by becoming a stalker or something. He's a lost cause
I like big boobies
See about a childhood friend you may have overlooked.
LARP
you didn't do shit. frick off.
Maybe move to a new country
Even yaderes can make it
Only a picture can solve the mystery. Height is not as important as looks.
Of course, there will be women who will instantly diss you due to height but they do not represent the majority.
>So I bit the bullet and got leg extension surgery, only for another tinder date to notice the scars and run away as if I was some sort of freak.
Big if true. Proofs?
One word: Asia.
kys, I know midgets that get laid. You refuse to take advice from other anons in this thread to make yourself more intersting.
>NGMI
I'm exactly 175cm short and I regularly cream pie my 149cm tall gf. She has a IUD so it's not like she's going preggers anytime soon. But I pray that one day we create manlet babies to conquer the world. My manlets will be fricking all the women and there's no amount of doom posting that will make me believe otherwise
>measuring your height in cm
ngmi
Lmao you sad, whiny b***h. I'm 5'8, Iranian, and I look like Aladdin if he hit the gym for a couple years. I get laid with no problem in America. I'm not rich, I'm still in college and I go to Auburn so I'm not exactly in a metropolitan area. My parents aren't wealthy either, it's not like I'm rolling in OPEC money.
It's not your height, it's not your skin color, it's literally you as a person. Women are like sharks or prison convicts, they can smell fear and weakness. If you are comfortable with yourself and have a shred of confidence, you can talk to women like a normal person and frick. If you're full of doubt, that will radiate off of you and every woman will pick up on it. If you magically turned 6'5 tomorrow, you would still have problems until your attitude changes.
The blackpill isn't just understanding how women think, it's understanding yourself and how you think. Sure, once you get below a certain height, things will get challenging, especially if you're going after women taller than you.
Don't get me wrong, I strike out too. Could be my height, could be my skin color, could be the fact I'm not rich. I can't change any of those things so I don't obsess over them, I just go talk to another woman. Have some faith in yourself bro, if height or money were the only limiting factors you'd be doing way better than I am, since you aren't maybe take a step back and reconsider things.
You gotta dwarfmax.
Are you any good at smithing? How wide are your shoulders? Do you sing while doing the dishes?
I am age 21, 5'6 and 5/10 face. I will literally never be loved or desired by a woman, and subsequently will never be respected by peers or ever have friends. I have zero opportunities in life no matter what I do. I have been living the same day for 5 years, nothing of worth has happened and if anything life has got worse. My only friend group abandoned me for being an Incel, even after reaching out nobody wants to associate with a manlet. I work a shit dead end minimum wage job even though I have decent qualifications with no better job offers. I have no interest in anything, no hobbies, no talent, I have nothing. Why shouldn't I be bitter? Everyone else was handed life
You are weak. Plenty of short men throughout history have done amazing things, Napoleon, Audie Murphy,etc. Yet you look at your height, decide nothing is to be done, and so you do nothing. Do you put your height on your resume? No? Then maybe consider that's why you don't get interviewed you fricking whiny b***h.
They were all average height during their respective time periods albeit
Audie Murphy was 5'4, average white male height during a WW2 was 5'8.
Richard Flaherty was 4'9.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_J._Flaherty#:~:text=Richard%20James%20Flaherty%20(November%2028,shortest%20US%20serviceman%20in%20history
Every B-17 ball turret gunner had to be under 5'7, they literally couldn't fit if you were taller.
Average male height in America now is 5'9. OP and the whiny b***h I responded to are either over the average height or less under it than Audie Murphy was. There is no excuse.
5’9 is not average you delusional manlet
>BRO JUST SPEND TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO TRAVEL HUNDREDS OF MILES AND BETABUXX FOR AN UGLY BUGWOMAN?
I hope you get cancer
just take the SEApill bro
>I have nothing.
So LEAVE!!!
Go to a tropical island and just enjoy life
life cannot be enjoyed without virgin pussy
>life cannot be enjoyed without virgin pussy
True... few things are more disheartening then the 'bawd confession' of the girl you fell in love with... and almost every girl has a LOT to confess
The truly fascinating part of the "bawd confession" is that she wouldn't even be remorseful of anything she did. The only reason she confesses is because she wants to make you know so that you can "defend her honor" (or whatever is left of it) when that time will inevitably come. She's doing it to make sure it comes from her and not another source to ensure her safety and wellbeing doesn't come into question.
What's more is if you accept her past, she will lose whatever respect she had of you, and she will forever see you as a spineless, desperate footstool that can't do better for himself. Yes, it's true she feels absolutely no remorse for her loose past, but that does not negate that she subconsciously understands her low value.
Her mind is truly at war with itself, wanting a good man, yet knowing she's only worthy of bad men.
You are enlightened to the ways of women.
>BRO JUST ENJOY BEING OUTCASTED FROM ALL OF SOCIETY AND STARVE TO DEATH ON AN ISLAND
Have you tried being gay OP?
You can't frick me you midget, you're not tall enough to reach my ass.
You wanna cry some more about it or do you want to maybe try something different?
>I've tried everything. Bulking, cutting, ottermode, bloatlord, cardio + calisthenics, pure weightlifting, SSGOMAD, and everything inbetween.
I don't believe you
Counterpoint: I absolutely do believe he tried all of that, but only tried for a ridiculously short period of time each (say 2 weeks) only to get frustrated at the lack of immediate results and then violently switching to a different and contradictory program/style, like trying to go from bloatlord to ottermode.
Now THAT'S body confusion!
Frick never mind with that level of confusion he should be HUGE by now.
>Or am I just destined to be a fricking manlet genetic fricking failure for my whole life???
Yes. All of the advice is worthless if you're not attractive to begin with. Sex is about the best genes , and humans are made to tell through all of the clutter. You need to be better (taller, stronger, smarter) than 90% of the men around you, otherwise you are invisible.
For fricks sakes let's just do some basic math. If you have to be better than 90% of men to breed, that means only 10% of men breed. Does that seem accurate to you?
Yes.
A) historically, only 40% of all males alive had offspring. And that's likely a conservative estimate. So only 4/10.
B) women chose the best at any given time. So the highschool chad will peak early, but might likely drop later in life
C) women have chosen from a limited group in the past. If you were a normal dude surrounded by freaks, that made you a local chad, even if you didn't fall into the global chad group
D) women lie about cheating and cucking. Also telegony - even your legitimate child is an extension of her and Chad's 10% DNA.
E) internet destroyed the classical dating scene. If virgin marriage in your 20s was the norm last century, it certainly isn't now
So, all things considered, yes it's entirely possible and mathematically sound.
To clarify a possible confusion, i want to add that I never claimed that only 1/10 ever breed. Only that it's necessary to mog 9/10 other guys for a chance to breed at any given moment. True chads will fall into this category their whole life, and that's the safest path to guaranteed success.
Fake chads however might still score, maybe because they've been the only sober person in a group of drug-addicts and alcoholics, or the only one with a stable job and an own home. But given enough time, any woman will see your real smv and then the nagging, b***h tests, games etc start.
>telegony
>Let me counter millennia worth of human experience and wisdom found everywhere, in every culture, even among isolated tribes, by this one dank leftist meme
Maybe you're ugly. Ever thought about that?
Ok but 6ft guys can be fat and ugly and still have sex right?
Sometimes, yeah. My point is height being equal if you're the ugliest of the options available you're SoL.
You are insufferable man.
Work on that
Ok but if I was 6ft I wouldn’t be insufferable right?
commas should be used before a "but" and to divide your writing's periods.
Are you brown?
No
Asian? If so you stand virtually no chance with non-asians.
If being less than 6.0' tall makes me insufferable than I guess I am fricking insufferable. Roastie prostitutes don't seem to care that I make close to six figures, have a strong jawline, and take part in multiple hobbies in my free time. Your insufferable to them if you don't meet their fricking bullshit height requirement ffs
No, being a whiny homosexual who has no ability to self analyze and gets emotional over every little problem is what makes you insufferable. You could be 7'6 and you'd still be beneath me
If I was 7'6 and kept my high 5 figures salary, my jawline, my sports car, etc I would be impregnating every roastie prostitute in a 10 mile radius. You don't understand how fricking enraging it is to see poorly dressed, low-income slobs that are 1.5" taller than me getting all the roastie action
No, you'd still be insufferable
Who the frick are you to say that? You're the insufferable one giving me nothing but unhelpful mockery while these fricking roastie prostitutes deny my a chance to pass on my genes just because I'm slightly below their arbitrary bullshit height requirement
I'm right, that's who I am. You keep fixation on height when your general behavior shows constant avoiding responsibility for your own situation and a refusal to self criticize. That's the feedback you need. Unbunch your panties and fix your shit
PUAs are like chiropractors. A few really know their shit, but most are hacks. There's no standards to call yourself one, and most people couldn't identify a good one from a hack until they've already paid for a dozen or so sessions.
OP maybe one of those alpha male camps would benefit you?
Do either of these actually work? Been thinking of signing up for something
Yeah there's a thriving PUA community online that you can immerse yourself into. From there you can get hooked up with local PUAs who will show you the ropes and mentor you. I left that life a few years ago but it helped me to stop being an incel
>just lift br-
As opposed to the manlet not lifting and being a gross doughboy instead?
Demoralizers make no sense.
reality is demoralizing for manlets
>too thin to dwarfmaxx
>get a pointy hat and gnomemaxx
Work to your strengths.
have you tried giving up?
>No matter what I do, I'm fricking invisible to women
Improve personality
Plastic surgery if ugly
Le personality is wholesome
Kill manlets. Behead manlets. Roundhouse kick a manlet into the concrete. Slam dunk an incel baby into the trashcan. Crucify filthy manlets. Defecate in a manlets food. Launch manlets into the sun. Stir fry manlets in a wok. Toss manlets into active volcanoes. Urinate into a manlets gas tank. Judo throw manlets into a wood chipper. Twist manlets heads off. Report halfmen to the IRS. Karate chop manlets in half (LOL). Curb stomp pathetic gymcel manlets. Trap manlets in quicksand. Crush manlets in the trash compactor. Liquefy manlets in a vat of acid. Eat manletss. Dissect manlets. Exterminate manlets in the gas chamber. Stomp manlets skulls with steel toed boots. Cremate manlets in the oven. Euthanise manlets. Mandatory abortions for short “males”. Grind halfman fetuses in the garbage disposal. Drown manlets in a puddle. Vaporize manlets with a ray gun. Kick old halfmen down the stairs. Feed manlets to alligators. Slice manlets with a katana.
>I'm sorry to inform you that your thread has been banned for the following reasons
>Trolling outside of /b/
>This user is underage
>Relationship or mental illness thread
>This post violates the United States law
>This post is extremely low quality
>Off-topic thread
>You may try to appeal your ban, but I wish you wouldn't so.
Skill issue. I'm 5'10 and have no trouble with relationships. The problem isn't that you're a sub 6' man, it's that you're a sub. The behavior and mindset is clear as day
Proof? I can't believe what you're saying when I'm half an inch taller than you and I've failed every fricking time despite trying all the tricks in the book
The proof is that I said it. You failing isn't a short program, it's a you problem.
this is the most insidious form of demoralization there is, pretending you're a manlet who gets laid
>saying you you can make it despite factors out of your control is demoralization
Get your israelite jitsu out of here. Been in 3 relationships, getting into a 4th. Had 2 random along the way. Telling you you're weak isn't preventing you from improving. It's the most important step. But you can't bend your unearned ego for long enough to consider that you might have fricked up.
in OP's defense, it sounds like he really did try everything before creating this thread to b***h about it
Trying everything doesn't mean trying everything well. Plus he only addressed physique. He might have no personal hygiene, a shit sense of style, or the body language of a frightened gazelle. He's far from out of options
he also mentioned following PUA tips so I would expect his style and body language to be on point
This tbh. I used to be part of that community and you can't really get off the ground without mastering body language and developing a distinct style
>trying to get dates off of tinder
lel. comeback when you grow up moron
>You're all useless
Says the man who can't get pussy
>I've tried everything. Bulking, cutting, ottermode, bloatlord, cardio + calisthenics, pure weightlifting, SSGOMAD, and everything inbetween
No you haven't
>So I bit the bullet and got leg extension surgery, only for another tinder date to notice the scars and run away as if I was some sort of freak.
No they didn't
The only thing that might have happened is the roastie rejecting you for being 5'10". who cares move on man. I'd make psychotic posts like this on /LULZ/ with all these fantasies. I'm 5'6 and found someone. Relax
She is 100% cheating or betabuxxing. You don’t move on from something like that. No normal, worthwhile human being has ever sunk that low. Manlets are literally worthless
hate to agree with this but I must. but being a cuck isn't so bad, it makes everyone happy
Except for the manlet loser
once the manlet accepts his place he can enjoy it too. it's like watching porn, but in real life! plus, there are multiple support groups on reddit that he can join to make his cuckoldry transition more enjoyable for all involved
Maybe this wouldn't be so fricking funny if you realized how fricking impossible it is for 90% of men to have sex with roasties these days
Kill manlets. Behead manlets. Roundhouse kick a manlet into the concrete. Slam dunk an incel baby into the trashcan. Crucify filthy manlets. Defecate in a manlets food. Launch manlets into the sun. Stir fry manlets in a wok. Toss manlets into active volcanoes. Urinate into a manlets gas tank. Judo throw manlets into a wood chipper. Twist manlets heads off. Report halfmen to the IRS. Karate chop manlets in half (LOL). Curb stomp pathetic gymcel manlets. Trap manlets in quicksand. Crush manlets in the trash compactor. Liquefy manlets in a vat of acid. Eat manletss. Dissect manlets. Exterminate manlets in the gas chamber. Stomp manlets skulls with steel toed boots. Cremate manlets in the oven. Euthanise manlets. Mandatory abortions for short "males". Grind halfman fetuses in the garbage disposal. Drown manlets in a puddle. Vaporize manlets with a ray gun. Kick old halfmen down the stairs. Feed manlets to alligators. Slice manlets with a katana.
You didn’t mention the haram hog.
It’s an old 70’s manoeuvre and I entrust the glowies will have a few photos of hog mode. Only a true Chad can swing the bat for the whole world to see.
Real fricking helpful butthole
Have you tried having and attractive face?
You need to be minimum 8/10 face to have sex with 4/10 roasties as a manlet and even then they will cheat
5'11" dwarfs... when will they learn their place.
Why do you have a picture of James Comey saved on your computer?
>Why do you have a picture of James Comey saved on your computer?
It is truly sad, the weird things I saved.
>notice the scars and run away
Just keep your pants on, bucko. How did she even notice?
I was wearing basketball shorts because it was 93 degrees that day. I didn't think I should cover up the scars with bandaids like some fricking roastie would, but apparently that was too "scary" for her
>just lift br-
I've known complete fat fricks who banged hotties on the regular. Your personality must be downright repugnant.
Yes, 6ft fatties have more sex than manlets