Joe Rogan just shared this article on instagram. I know that onions does have some effect like estrogenating you or something and I have taken literally all efforts I can to avoid it in any baked good or whatever other products they use it in. However, I fricking love asian food, especially sushi. So how bad is onions in its sauce form compared to the onions lecithin or whatever it is they use in literally every junk food and bread product in american groceries? Should I also make attempts to avoid all asian foods?
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I didn’t know every board uses wordfilters for söy, oops.
its almost like theres a reason for that. makes you think
Even the ‘o’ makes a onions face
IST doesn't.
are they all pretentious gays on IST?
>Implying everyone here isn't a pretentious gay.
>Joe Rogan
Ah yes, a quality source of information
Pretty over the filter, I'm surprised how long its been
Ya don’t eat soi, it has hormonal effects
do you think you are the best chud on all of fourchan?
After me comes he who is chuddier than I, the thong of whose sandals I am not worthy to stoop down and untie.
do you think you are the number one chud?
bullshit, only animal foods have massive amounts of bioavailable estrogen, its just more meme diet ping pong horseshit to sell you something.
Onions is the least of your worries, the plastic and various other chemicals in our food is way worse
newbies can't ꜱoy
can't ꜱoy
Phonegay here can I ꜱoy
Someone edit into a onions jack
Someone already did on IST when it was new.
Can you post it pls?
found it
I don't believe there are people here who can't ꜱoy
can i onion?
ꜱoy
like that?
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LA CUCARACHAAAAAAAAAAA
Frick you I can onions
onions ?
i onions what you did there
how do I onions?
ꜱoy test
if you dont tell us we will never find out
onions
checking for onions
Please JANNIES let me onions in peace
no onions only onions
ꜱoy onions
onions söy sœ
my chest flies go
SOI SOI SOI SOI SOI SOI SOI SOI SOI
onions
'ate ꜱoy
'luv me onions
simple as
ꜱoy
onions fgghjg
oh god it's doing the face
kek it fricking is
I had to.
keeeeeeeeeek
Science has truly gone too far
If you are fat or have low test, I'm willing to bet your problem is lifestyle-related instead of soi.
We are not fish and there are fish species that can change their sex naturally.
But phytoestrogens are able to induce such change, fish are not plants either.
>fricking love asian food
>especially sushi
Get better taste
>"ïn shocking 2023 finding" - published June 3, 2021
OP was shocked when he found it in 2023, DOE.
I can't believe people still believe this bullshit.No söy dose not have "estrogenating" effects (also isn't the claim "progesteronenating" effects???). I am willing to change my mind but so far I haven't seen anything that proves otherwise.
Look at yourself in a mirror
I don't see how that has anything to do with what I posted.
You’ve got little breasts and are Norwood 3 my man.
No that is me. Not the anon you are talking to
I'm literally a cis woman.
have you ever had your pussy eaten? do you really have little breasts?
are you chinese?
Very interesting thanks for the info anon.
According to the graph at the bottom, certain food have considerable more isoflavones than other even if it's based on sóy beans.
>natto is just as bad as unfermented sōy foods
Imagine my shock that straight sōy beans contain just as much isoflavones as other sōy products. It was always amusing watching Japanophile morons on here insist natto is actually perfectly fine because it's fermented and just like their heckin anime
a colleague of mine had terrible sperm quality and one of the first things his doc asked him was whether he eats a vegan diet. ghey know, it's just not on the news because söyfarmers have a massive lobby.
Most of the studies here didn't have enough participants. The only 2 studies that could provide some actual "data"/"evidence" are the sperm study or the bone study.Both of those studies don't prove the notion that söy has "estrogenating" effects.
If this is true then why don't men turn into trannies when they eat tofu as it has more estrogen than actual women. Could it be that the phytoestrogens in vegetables are super weak? Men would be growing great big breasts eating tofu because it has 51 million estrogen units vs only 513,000 in women. That's like 100 times more estrogen. It doesn't make sense unless this infographic is disingenuous. It couldn't possibly be propaganda to mislead midwits could it? I dunno, just asking questions as a person with a 135 IQ level.
Just an observation of real life here aside from the data.
Men that drink lots of beer get beer bellys and man breasts, go into any bong pub and you'll see this (thankfully they tend to keep their tops om)
I also see men who follow lets say, more progressive trends.... Tend to also have inflamed stomachs and man breasts but are skinnier in totally.
I'd take an educated guess that those men are consuming a lot of onions based products and not testmaxing.
So while the data might be arguable either way, I'm sorry but every one I see that consumes high onions or estrogenic (if that is even the right word for it) foods literally does grow breasts.
>135 IQ
>doesn't understand why exogenous endocrine disruptors that are subjected to stomach acid before reaching the point they can affect the body aren't as powerful as natural endogenously produced hormones
>criticizing me but doesn't understand phytoestrogens have different binding affinity, efficiency and selectivity to the estrogen receptor complex than mammalian estrogen
>nips turn male catfish female with onions isoflavone
>troons tell other troons without access to female hormones to consume onions and microplastics to feminize themselves
>onions isoflavones are use as hormone replacement therapy for menopausal women
>"muh mammilian estrogen different! Muh binding affinity"
>weak anecdotal evidence
>scientifically backed medicine used by millions of menopausal women
>repeatable RCTs
versus your assertion
>don't believe your eyes!
>don't believe repeatable experiments!
>don't believe your own life!
Nice try, Rabbi. How is the weather in Tel Aviv today?
Btfo, midwit Black person
is that supposed to be an argument when the fricking data shows that soj kills your sperm, shrinks your balls and makes you grow breasts? If you want to go the mechanistic biochemical route to probe le hecking fools wrong you have to go 100% of the way, not 0.5%.
Have you not looked at the average vegan? They are clearly more androgynous than a normal male. Men do become estrogenic when they eat that shit, As for the comparison with hormones, the comparison is bad because it's comparing a serving of foods (plant foods are extremely poorly digested) with daily hormone production. It's apples and oranges. The comparison is intended to shock but the takeaway message should be that plant foods are orders of magnitude more estrogenic than natural foods. Even uncontroversial stuff like bread and nuts is what makes men soft and girly. Ancient civilisations have always known this kind of thing, they knew what happened if you fed people bread and grains
gladiators ate barley and beans only, they would break you lol they were known as 'barleymen'
They were also known for being fat and doughy, and physically inferior to the real Roman army, who were given rations of meat
>slaves were fed a plant based diet
yep
Funny how all these vegan advocates overlook the "slave" part.
that estrogen is hardly bioavailable.
The men who eat a lot of onions literally turn into femboys.
The catfish turned into a female because they normally turn into females throughout their lives (its pretty cool/weird, look it up), the thing is that the scientists managed to recreate that artificially with onions, and thatd a problem.
this is the image i was talking about in
lol
Onions lecithin doesn’t have phytoestrogens, you dumbass. It’s the isolated lecithin.
Oh the horror, I thought beef was safe. Grass fed only from now on
asians used to be 1,50m tiny manlets
the more they adapted western diet and less onions (south Korea) the more they became tall
most of them are European height now
Don’t get asiatics hopes up troll they will always be 5ft3
South Koreans put their kids on growth hormones. They are a blackpilled society which is why they give surgery for graduation presents.
There's estrogen in all tissue. Animals have estrogen and plants have phytoestrogen. Your body doesn't use phytoestrogen and it needs to be converted through chemistry to be used. Onionbeans are the source of synthetic testosterone.
What's the most common sources of phytoestrogen or just estrogen in western diet?
Onions
But again, this doesn't mean you'll become more feminine, in the same way that eating bulls testicles wouldn't turn you into the Liver King
You literally cannot get test from testicles.
actually, if you did the calculation on how much estrogen is bioacailable out of onions you would be mind-blown.
I dont feel like looking for the png i have that shows the amount of estrogen in onions and how bioavailable it is but i remember that i stopped eating ice cream as my main carbs because with a 0.2% onions emulsifier my test was getting HALVED eating 700 calories of ice cream.
>. I know that onions does have some effect like estrogenating you
It doesn't.
Please stop repeating this dumb meme. You do not have ovaries
>However, I fricking love asian food, especially sushi.
End of line for you
i don't get the point of linking this. in this study they added massive amounts of isolated chemistry (that wouldn't be present in that level of concentration comparatively (to tofu or onions milk for example)). this seems to be from the initial developmental stages of the fish too, so this isn't turning fully grown adult male catfish into females. so... i guess your point is - pregnant mothers shouldn't fund their own factories or mass-extract isolated phytoestrogens and chug it all down daily while pregnant?
op critical thinking skills 0, kys Black person israelite homosexual.
>catfish forcefed söy in a lab
wow he is literally me
The concentrations of isoflavones you get from food additives are negligible. That's before you can consider things like how much is destroyed through digestion. Even acute doses aren't going to tank your test as long they're not sustained throughout the day. I wouldn't bother caring about it if you're not consuming soi with every meal. Soi sauce is particularly low in isoflavones and used sparingly so it's pretty much a non issue.
>SHOCKING 2023 FINDING
>Published: June 3, 2021
>shocking find
>alex jones has been talking about the gay frogs for over a decade
>we, autists, ate the frogs
>troonyism runs rampart
ꜱoy isn't healthy
>Scientists give 100000000000x normal dose of x to mice and it turns them gay
>Anon is worried that eating 1/100000000 the dose that affected mice will turn him gay so he will avoid those foods like an autist
I hate you all so much
>33
Damn, just when I though this guy could not get any sketchier, he whips that one out.
cool schizo brainfart there, do you have a foreskin?
I understand your point except that it isn't 1 gorillion times the normal dose. It's a few servings a day. Soi is unique in this regard because to get that same dose in say peanuts you'd have to eat pounds of the stuff. It's something like 100g of soi beans to 38 pounds of peanut butter to get the same amount of isoflavones.
The general threshold for feminizing effects in men is 300 to 400 mg of isoflavones daily. That could be as little as 2 and a half scoops of soi protein. Or a couple liters of soi milk. Consider a vegan diet:
Breakfast: 2 servings of soi eggs, glass of soi milk, some veggies and tempeh
Lunch: soilent (green)
And let's just skip dinner because he's already at the level of gyno. That's how little soi you need to cause problems.
It's even lower in women, with 50mg of isoflavones being enough to lengthen menstrual cycles. That's 1.5 glasses of soi milk. That's it
that numale fish gets me every time
Søy polyphenols blocks mammalian estrogen which is why it’s used to treat hot flashes during menopause. Blocks. Joe Rogan should check if he is a fish by diving deep and inhaling lungs full of water.
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I wonder what the chances are OP is one of my friends who saw me share this post
Onions sauce constitutes such a ridiculously small portion of your diet that it couldn't possibly make any difference.
And if you care so much, you can just eat sushi without onions sauce.
salom
Not only is soi sauce such a minute portion of your diet, its fermented in such a way to make the isoflavones negligible. A drizzle of soi sauce on your food is nothing. You'd have to drink gallons of the stuff daily just to match a single glass of soi milk
>the birth control piss water is lowering your t
>your plastic clothes are lowering your t
>the poison sprayed on your grain and veg slop is lowering your t
it really is over for you
Good morning I hate polyester clothing
Onions sauce and tofu should be fine because they're fermented. You should avoid other forms of basedbeans.
No it's not fine.
See
>The experiment was conducted with catfish divided into five different tanks; one of regular fish farming water; three with different concentrations of "genistein," a chemical component of basedbean isoflavone; and one with female hormone dissolved in the water.
i mean, it's not like they simply just splashed a bit of soi in their feed
People still listen to Joe Rogan?
>People still listen to Joe Rogan?
Zoomers who grew up without a dad are what remains.
when was the last time you saw an Asian or a vegan and thought "wow this guy is cool"?
yeah. don't eat that shit.
How come onions still word filters to onions but penis no longer word filters
I don't care by what exact process a söymale turns into a söymale, I just don't do what they do.
>almost 2024
>people still think soi has any effect on human men.
>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19524224/
>The results of this meta-analysis suggest that neither onions foods nor isoflavone supplements alter measures of bioavailable T concentrations in men.
>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11352776/
>We conclude that the phytoestrogen dose consumed had no effect on semen quality.
>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19819436/
>Consumption of onions protein of low or high isoflavone content does not adversely affect semen quality in a sample of healthy adult men.
>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20378106/
>The intervention data indicate that isoflavones do not exert feminizing effects on men at intake levels equal to and even considerably higher than are typical for Asian males.
>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30042516/
>These data suggest that, while isoflavones were detected in SPC, chronic WPC or SPC supplementation did not appreciably affect biomarkers related to muscle androgenic signaling or SQ estrogenic signaling. The noted fiber type-specific responses to WPC and SPC supplementation warrant future research.
>https://academic.oup.com/jn/article/132/3/570S/4687378
>The reported studies suggest that onions consumption exerts small effects on hormones in both men and premenopausal women. Although these effects are generally in a beneficial direction
>beneficial direction
>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35197681/
> Results obtained in this study provide additional evidence about the favourable effect of a plant-based diet on sperm parameters.
>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0002916522105332?via%3Dihub
>Primary food sources of phytoestrogens, including tofu, onions milk, whole grains, tea, and flaxseed, were also inversely associated with total mortality.
>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19480732/
>Isoflavone supplementation in healthy males may enhance cognitive processes which appear dependent on oestrogen activation.
try reading your own articles, moxyte
What the frick is a moxyte you shitskin? Peak English. Please show me anything wrong with my "articles"
least deranged mocshite post
Nice try, moxyte.
Wow look at all that ꜱoyrage.
Cool do you have any human male studies? All of the studies I posted were on humans male so I like my evidence a little better.
fermentation, i.e. part of the process of making onions sauce, seems to get rid of the negative aspects of onions
>Joe Rogan just shared this article on instagram.
Thank god I still haven't re opened the IG
onions? fricking onions? everything i like is onions and ruined. going to go punch holes in the wall IST.
Are you sure it wasn't onion compounds?
Neither onions sauce or lecithin have a big impact, it's the onions protein which is high in genistein and daidzein which are phytoestrogens. Onions milk, tofu, fake meat etc.
In this study, chimps taking onions protein became more anti-social and violent. This is why the elites want this.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15053944/
needs to be banned.
Burn all of it so that the problem never arises again.
[pre] onions [/pre]
Chocolate kills dogs
>shocking 2023 finding
>article published 2021
???
I ate some protein bars the other day and then my left nipple started hurting. IDK what that was about but it was kind of sus.
That's HIV.
This doesn't work on humans, they're still men in a dress and wig with gynocomastia
NOOOOOOOOOO DON'T TURN ME INTO A GIRL