Do any of these fricking things work? I have very immobile wrists and they hurt every other day, my finger joints swell up and I have to do stretches and shit to get them working, it usually goes away after I lift though, like if I deadlift the fingers fix themselves and the wrist pain lessens.
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>Do any of these fricking things work?
Sort of
But most of them work by being a shitty anti-inflammatory like ibuprofen
On the other hand, rest, anabolics, hgh, collagen powder/peptides will actually improve your joints over time assuming moderate resistance training with progressive overload
Oh and add omega 3s to that list
Have you considered seeing a doctor? It sounds like something is really wrong with your wrists/hands. Do you work on a computer? Have you considered wrist braces?
I did and they just prescribed a cream that didn't do shit and told me to stop being fat, which I am doing but I would appreciate a solution in the meanwhile.
No and no, I've been spending less time on a computer then ever.
I'll get right on that for sure.
I do work out and it helps for a bit but the shits comes back, I could sleep more I guess, any brands you would recommend for collagen peptides? Or how can I know if a brand is good? Also what about shark cartilage? It's promoted for joint health but I heard it can actually inflame them.
Bulksupps bovine peptides are alright. Taste like complete shit though. Hgh is great. It makes your hands swell and grow and all the extra water makes lifting anything easy as frick. But it sounds like your hands are swollen enough. I'm not a fan of taking a grocery store list of supplements every fricking day like some of the guys on here. I just do test, hgh, and collagen. Metamucil and whey but those having nothing to do with joint health imo
>I could sleep more I guess
Good idea
Anything that helps recovery helps your joints
>any brands you would recommend for collagen peptides? Or how can I know if a brand is good?
For the peptides I'm not too sure but I'd definitely be more wary of those but in general hydrolyzed collagen is cheap as frick so I'd trust companies to not lie about its contents
So I'd just use the cheapest you can get
I use organika personally but just because it usually goes on sale where I'm from
Oh I should also mention more is better so like if the recommended dose is 10g then use at least 15g or even go as high as 20g a day
>Also what about shark cartilage? It's promoted for joint health but I heard it can actually inflame them.
Not heard of it sorry
Do you think taking one of these and some MSM daily will help?
>MSM
Well so again, that's an anti inflammatory so like a shitty version of ibuprofen
>5microg d3
That's like 200 IU which is fricking nothing
>40 mg collagen type II
Seems ok
Will MSM reduce your gains like apranax and pain killers like that do?
eat lots of canola oil, like drink it. Oil is oil and will lube up your joints plus its cheap, thank me later.
Taking glucosamine works wonders for me. I also think stretching and fixing muscle imbalances is very important
>t. One of the few wrestlers alive without joint problems
Worst possible advice. Has to be troll
you have arthritis Black person, you need to take up biologics
Nah it doesn't hurt that bad.
It's also inconsistent, it's there sometimes and not there other times, it's hardly debilitating or anything.
Cissus helps to get inflammation out.
When I search this I get recommended DMAE
So look for a supplement with msm and hyaluronic acid? Got it.
My joints have been feeling groovy ever since I started taking hyaluronic acid and msm supplements.
Apparently they are also good for your skin. But that might not be good because I'm 31 and my professor last semester thought I wasn't a day over 23 (her words.) She kinda wiener blocked me from some zoomer pussy. But I still got it.
But my knees snap cracked and popped until I started taking it.
I thought it was the collagen in bone broth that made my knees pop all the time, but I just found out this is also in bone broth so it could be this too.
Most joint complexes are unproven to do anything because they are often missing catalyst.
For reference low Vitamin D correlates with tendon/joint pain even though it has little to do with either, because low Vitamin D seems to cause issues with where the bone joins the tendon/joint.
Vitamin C is also absolutely essential to both tendon/joint health and since it's water soluble it's mostly pissed out within two hours.
So before supplementing joint junk, remember vitamin D/C first. Vitamin C should be ingested at least twice daily to ensure your body has a chance to utilize it day and night as much as possible.
I take vit C and D supplements on top of getting enough from the food I eat, I track my diet so I know this for sure.
I don't think I'm gonna start test or hgh until I'm at least 30, I like supplements they're easy and convenient.
If your micro intake is on track like that adding more supplements isn't going to do anything my friend.
May I instead direct your attention to other possibilities?
Such as a possibility of joint/nerve damage via sleeping positions or posture? Also Joint damage is more likely to be caused by excessive strain and not because of lack of nutrition. The body can only repair so much material in a specific timeframe, this is true even if nutrition is 100% efficiency.
It's possible, I used to sleep on my side, when I went the doc said it was because I lean on the desk with my elbows when I'm at the computer, but I don't use the computer much anymore and it's still a thing. Í do notice that it always happens when I overeat, like it happens sometimes even when I eat proper but if I have a cheat day it's guaranteed to happen the next day.
I can safely rule out diabetes cause my bloodwork is very good, but I'm not sure what else it could be.
Do me a favor.
Stretch the first rib (putting hand ontop of shoulder next to neck and gently and i mean gently move in all directions).
Next stretch the collarbone (hand on chest right below neck, either side. Move neck in all directions gently).
Afterwords lay down on the floor with chest on the ground. Put one arm out at 90 degrees, lift other side of body up keeping chest/shoulder/arm stretched on ground at all times! and i mean full contact, if it moves even slightly restart. Repeat other side.
Next do same thing with arms at 45 degrees instead of 90.
This is to rule out impingement or nerve compression of the neck and/or armpit. and ensure that's it's limited to either elbow or wrist.
>Stretch the first rib (putting hand ontop of shoulder next to neck and gently and i mean gently move in all directions).
Lots of popping, my right side is a bit less flexible then my left, felt a bit of a stretch going up and back.
>Next stretch the collarbone (hand on chest right below neck, either side. Move neck in all directions gently).
Again the right side, I can feel a bit of a stretch in my neck when I look up or left and the stretch pulls down on my jaw.
>Afterwords lay down on the floor with chest on the ground. Put one arm out at 90 degrees, lift other side of body up keeping chest/shoulder/arm stretched on ground at all times! and i mean full contact, if it moves even slightly restart. Repeat other side.
Didn't have any problems with this.
I might have a shoulder impingement from benching with rounded shoulders, or it could just be a scoliosis thing, which I have a mild case of.
Also the finger joints swelling and needing to be stretched is a reocurring thing I've had for about a year now and it only happens every other week, usually goes away after I do something strenous with my fingers like deadlift 9r give my grip strengthener a couple of pumps or even if I just have to write a lot. No pain but having to stretch them straight is uncomfortable.
My wrist being inflamed is a recent thing that only started two days ago, you know that one school trick where tell someone to hold their thumb down with their index and flick their wrist? I get that same type of whiplash tendon pain when I do normal stuff.
if none of this helps my suggestion. is retrain your grip.
Also when you sleep use a sleeping brace for that arm. That will stop excessive claw finger development and wrist movement. Which is pretty common while you're asleep.
god speed anon.
Okay!
This is actually good.
You do not have thoracic outlet syndrome caused by chest muscles.
However you seem to have an extremely mild case of loss of mobility when it involves the collarbone and first rib. This is extremely common and a potential reason for nerve mimicking symptoms. It's not something we think about stretching a lot.
I'm going to drop some videos.
Some of these repeat, some of these might not seem like they have anything to do with your problem, but they all
>1. involve neck mobility
>2. Shoulder mobility
>3. Scapular/collarbone mobility
Feel these out as it rules out all possibilities of anything from the neck down to the arm muscles.
Usually you can feel a pretty obvious tension.
If none of these seem out of place, I think you might just have overused your wrist/fingers.
thanks
I'll definitely have to get a wrist brace, I don't really stretch at all I'm very inflexible so I'll definitely try those out
>I think you might just have overused your wrist/fingers
hoping for that too, I'm very right side dominant and I get shit sleep and am on a caloric deficit to lose weight, so my recovery is probably not great
Honestly man if none of those videos apply. They are still good for you because these are pretty bad tension areas for stressed people.
Keeping the neck/shoulders relaxed is really important for people's arm health.
I would say though notice the next couple days as you sleep and wake up how your arm rest.
If you keep finding yourself with your arm curled up like a bicep curl or if you find your wrist/fingers bending in any excessive gesture.
You need the brace, because even if this isn't the cause of your pain, it's not helping it to heal either.
A natural resting position is the wrist ever so slightly bent at the palm, with fingers gently curving. Any other position is incorrect and means either not enough strength or excessively stretched. At which point you'll need to stretch the flexors or extensors also. test the waters. Whichever one is tighter than the other is the one to be stretched.
I definitely sleep with my fingers clawed up pretty often so I'll have to buy a brace, maybe two just have it on both hands.
Is TMJ the one where you can't relax your jaw and it gives you a killer headache? I have that sometimes it sucks ass, my condolences if those happen to you often.
There are other healing peptides like BPC-157 and TB500.
Mk677 is lit for joint stuff but you’ll have galactus-tier hunger if you don’t eat a big meal in the morning.
Eggshell membrane
See a specialist. A joint support supplement may help ease your pain, but not fix the issue. I have TMJ and taking MSM/Glucosamine is the only thing preventing me from being fully mute and blowing my brains out.
They work after like 6 months, bioavailability is terrible because it has to go: stomach, intestines, blood/liver, then finally from blood to joint liquid, then the friction plate in the joint
Make injections of chondroitine in your glutes, twice a year. Helped me to heal stage 1 traumatic arthrosis in elbows, knees and fingers
Worked within like 3 days for me. Granted, you have to also stop doing shit that aggravates the tendonitis. Had debilitating pain for a year. Switched to full body 3x a week low reps and cut thr accessories/fluff n pump to a minimum which got me 50% of the way there. Picrel got me like 90% to normal.