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Nothing natural about that freak
I just bought Blood Meridian
What am I in for?
>I just bought Blood Meridian
>What am I in for?
Pure kino.
youre probably not going to understand most of the words
One of the best American books ever written, and easily top 3 antagonists in the entire canon.
>One of the best American books ever written
What books are the other ones?
My new year goal was to read at least two books a month
Moby Dick is widely considered to be another, I would actually recommend reading it before Blood Meridian if you haven't since the latter implicitly references the former and inverts it.
He should probably read Paradise Lost as well while we are at it.
Wedibros
I read blood meridian and this year started moby dick. Gave up after 2/3s of the way. Just couldnt stand the non narrative chapters, eg the majority
>Just couldnt stand the non narrative chapters, eg the majority
Why wouldn't you just read a edited version of the book? Pretty sure that's the most readily available version out there, without all the useless chapters
Moby Dick sucks. I read it just because it's a classic, and I've read most of them, but I didn't like it.
What didn't you like about it?
>inverted
how so? apart from holden and the whale being big and white semi-metaphorical beings kek
NTA but I would guess obsession vs lack of meaning
The kid and everyone in the Glanton gang were pretty aimless misfits that got swept up by Holden
Makes sense, but you could easily argue Captain Ahab was the only one that cared about Moby dick and everyone else were just aimless misfits swept up by him.
Sorry I only read historical fiction about the Napoleonic Wars.
I'd unironically consider BM the American epic before something like Infinite Jest
Whats your favorites? Been getting more into classic American literature because a) i always default to scifi and need to branch out and b) the stronger masculine themes are a much needed change from the heavily feminine themes that have been ubiquitous over the last 20ish years kinda like how star trek tngs optimism is a breath of fresh air from the hacky doom and gloom shit that gets slopped up.
Personally, I love Steinbeck and East of Eden is my default recommendation for people. Harrison is alright but he gets a bit self inserty with the characters and that really chafes me
Impressive tongue gains. Mirin
> If anything the story highlights the brutality of man in general, rather than any specific race of man
This post makes chuds seethe
Not America but Growth of the Soil by Knut Hamsun is great and exemplifies masculinity and self sufficiency.
Word. Will look into
It’s a great book trust me.
Fun cowboy adventures.
I also recommend Lonesome Dove.
>fun
Anon I.....
I mean it's a decent read but describing it as fun is a stretch cosidering what goes on therein
>Anon I.....
>I mean it's a decent read but describing it as fun is a stretch cosidering what goes on therein
Fun is subjective.
>gay0Y
>that image
Where's the fool?
Off representing humanity or some shit.
Why are you quoting the whole post you're replying to, moron?
why do people like you who haven't even read it try to make it seem like some forbidden text full of the most disturbing shocking splattershit in the world? it's no darker than game of thrones or something like that.
Lonesome Dove is the best western novel I’ve ever read. Don’t bother with the sequels though.
Pro tip, DO NOT READ THE LITTLE SUMMARIES AT THE START OF EVERY CHAPTER
It ruined it for me the first time I tried to read it, second time around I ignored them and I enjoyed it more and actually finished it
Having said that it was my least favorite of his books that I've read
Though when a certain character turns up about 3/5ths the way through it got markedly better for me
a really shit writing style obscuring a decent narrative
brainlet take
Black person
Filtered
you have to go back
Baby sheep is lost in the desert
She is cry
Sometime come the mother
Sometime the wolf
ah, blood meridian, monsieur? that novel is the sark and chaparral of literature, the filament whereon rode the remuda of highbrow, corraled out of some destitute hacienda upon the arroya, quirting and splurting with main and with pyrolatrous coagulate of lobated grandiloquence. our eyes rode over the pages, monsieur, of that slatribed azotea like argonauts of suttee, juzgados of swole, bights and systoles of walleyed and tyrolean and carbolic and tectite and scurvid and querent and creosote and scapular malpais and shellalagh. we scalped, monsieur, the gantlet of its esker and led our naked bodies into the rebozos of its mennonite and siliceous fauna, wallowing in the jasper and the carnelian like archimandrites, teamsters, combers of cassinette scoria, centroids of holothurian chancre, with pizzles of enfiladed indigo panic grass in the saltbush of our vigas, true commodores of the written page, rebuses, monsieur, we were the mygale spiders too and the devonian and debouched pulque that settled on the frizzen studebakers, listening the wolves howling in the desert while we saw the judge rise out of a thicket of corbelled arches, whinstone, cairn, cholla, lemurs, femurs, leantos, moonblanched nacre, uncottered fistulas of groaning osnaburg and kelp, isomers of fluepipe and halms awap of griddle, guisado, pelancillo.
If this wasn't AI then whoever did it made a great effort.
Are you a frog who read the french version?
Mah homie, I am entirely too high for this shit right here.
DUDE like... WEED
Ah frick off.
Black person
Reading this thread I find it funny that I understood like half the obscure words in blood meridian simply because I was raised around cattle ranchers in western states. I just took it for granted that everyone knew what remuda, jasper, azotea, arroya, etc meant
It’s not hard to get most of them from context
>oh it’s a rock
>oh it’s a mexican thing
>oh it’s an indian thing
10/10 post
Fun times
Oh boy
A slog of prose but a pretty cool story. I need to finish it. I put it down to read Fellowship of the Ring and I lost my bookmark placement but I need to get back into it.
You should be reading with your phone next to you to look up any words you don't understand.
Easily my favorite book. Even crazier read when you realize 99% of what the Glantom gang saw and did was meticulously researched and historically accurate.
Also the first time the Kid sees the Comanche is the most kino written scene I have ever read
That's how I learned Spanish.
I gave up after 3 chapters
It was good but I must stop being an ESL brainlet first
Dont feel too bad. It filters english speakers too. Mccarthy uses words ive never heard before or since. Yet when you actually look up the word they’re perfect
He uses alot of archaic speech - I felt better about halfway through the first read after finding that fact out
A dark fantastic journey. I envy you.
No punctuation because McCarthy is a quirky artist and DEFINITELY NOT overrated as frick. Also bleeding heart crap about how evil white people are and poor browns you need to feel sad for because America exists.
Indians are fricking awful in blood meridian. Wtf you are talking about moronic homosexual?
Holy frick your reading comprehension is abysmal lmao
IST really has the dumbest fricking people on earth as well as the smartest
And it's beautiful.
Really? The main takeaway I got from it is that cowboys are based
You will learn a lot of words for rock formations and shit
There just weren't enough descriptions of them riding through the desert and being thirsty imo.
google “blood meridian glossary” and learn the 200 words that show up before reading. Should take you about two weeks
Black person have you never read a challenging book before? Literally just look up the words as you come across them, it's not hard
That's what I did, some people are morons
fricks up the flow of the book for me, so I try to go into a classic knowing as much about the language of the time/book as I can so I dont have to sit there on my little goyphone like some illiterate homosexual.
But why? Quit being such a pretentious homosexual and accept that now we can look shit up quickly. If you don't get what a word means, just look it up. There is no shame in hearing some obscure english or mexican word, and some people just talk like flowery homosexuals. Who cares if you have to do some extra research to understand them
i do the extra research, but i do it before reading so im not going from my phone back to the book all the time. immersion is important when reading a novel, but i dont expect all these zoomers to understand that
>my ego is too big to allow me to learn
stay moronic homosexual. i bet you half rep above your ability too b***h
your reading comprehension is terrible. i am amazed youre in a /litfit/ thread.
i am memorizing the words to the book before reading it. you are doing a quick google when you come to a word you dont know (which i assume is often)
im sure youre really "learning" and retaining what you look up kek.
>verification not required
Shut the frick up you dumb Black person no one cares
Frick the others, I get this
Reading Candidé which is crazy fast paced and then having to grind to a screeching halt to look up "Auto-de-flai" because they could not just say "burned at the stake"
Kek you consulted a glossary and studied before reading Blood Meridian? What a classically midway approach.
If you are into both survival stories and fantasy or western adventures or epics then you will probably enjoy it in some way. There are lots of random bits of spanish or arcane english, that will probably cause you to look something up, but I don't really mind that, and usually when I read anything, I will just look up words I don't understand.
I always imagined him more like the kingpin, way fatter and less overtly physically threatening, I think they describe him specifically as having small hands and feet
You are a moronic social media poisoned homosexual if you regard this as a story applying to any specific race. If anything the story highlights the brutality of man in general, rather than any specific race of man
Mediocre, overly edgy and unintentionally comedic splatter that tries to be some sort of dark poetry and failing utterly. Everyone always says that it's hard to understand, the truth is that there's just nothing to understand.
It's the screenplay for a dark and imaginative movie forced through a pinhole to make it fit on a page with nothing but prose, while refusing to avail himself of virtually all of the means of expression that are truly unique to prose. People who love it believe this is an achievement. People who hate it recognize that this just reduces prose to an inferior form of cinema.
He writes the dialog in an ambiguous way that would be not be obvious on screen. Why? All male characters besides the judge are terrible communicators, and people are constantly killed by misunderstandings. It's a great use of prose.
A second great use: he uses lots of violent metaphors to describe the landscape. On screen a sunset is just a sunset. On the page it's a blood meridian. The violence is cooked into the writing.
Yeah since when was “prose” a part of good literature? Fricking moron
As in “not poetry” not “not consisting of style” which would be basically impossible. moron
A fun family-friendly adventure.
Nihilism followed by surprise gay sex ending.
really beautiful writing wrapped around a nothingish narrative.
this shit is really tedious to read but his books make great movies, he's very descriptive
women, whiskey, money, and Black folk
Seethe anon. He is pale and thin, he wears a thin and ragged Evangelion shirt. He stokes his penis. Outside lie dark turned fields with rags of snow and darker 7-11s beyond that harbor yet a few last wolves. His folk are known for jerseys of wiener and drinkers of cum but in truth his father has been dissatisfied with him. He lies in monster energy, he quotes from boards whose names are now lost. The anon crouches by the computer and watches him.
Night of your birth. Thirty-three. Dubs. The autist they were called. God how the stars did fall. I looked for BCC, holes in the heavens. The Black person stove.
excellent
>Seethe anon
*chefs kiss*
holden rapes and kills the kid in a bathroom
Judge is the devil. Kid is the one killing and raping the kids they hear mentions of. That's why he later hires a midget hooker but can't frick her, he needs that e-girl dicky.
The guy peeing outside is the Kid, the horror inside the toilet is that missing girl, raped and dead.
The kid gets grabbed tho in the outhouse. I took that as he was the one killed in the shitter, and the child went missing earlier. Maybe the Judge had a two for one?
I haven’t read the book. However, imo “it’s up to the reader to interpret” is one of the laziest writing devices I’ve ever seen. An author tries to come across all artsy but really they have no idea what to put so the try to bill as “mysterious.” Brainstorm before you write and finish your fricking story.
Stuff happens everyday that no one will ever know for certain what happened. One or no witnesses. Witnesses die, the truth is forever lost.
Yes, but that’s a real life occurrence. Writing a fictional story and then ending it with ambiguous nonsense is lazy writing.
Well his character is implied to be supernatural
>Tower over them all
>Never sleep
>Say you'll never die
>Dance in light and in shadow
>Say you'll never die
he just like me fr
>Is he Natty?
No... the entire point of the book is him being demon-esque in nature or some sort of spiritual manifestation. Also he was almost space marine sized. It's over for you.
Loved Blood Meridian and No Country for Old Men, which McCarthy should I read next? I have Suttree, The Passenger, and The Road.
Haven't read the passenger, road, or suttree, but All The Pretty Horses was actually a really good book and fairly atypical for him, from what I understand.
Reading all the pretty horses rn. I find it similar to what youd find in a jim harrison novel. Not nearly so dense, similar themes
Suttree
You probably don't
Just focus on getting bigger
Isn't the Judge described as very fat?
The Judge is a fat as fatass but can throw an anvil
Confirmed powershitter
For the love of god please tell me this is a troll post. There is no way you are this stupid
>Dwayne The Rock Johnson in whiteface as 'The Judge'
The judge was a Black person albino though
I thought he was a white albino
wrong, he is intelligent
Idk I can't read.
Youtube popped up a video talking about how horrible the characters in this book are almost a month ago.
You're not a dumb moron who hears about something the algorithm pushes, and then uses that as their personality for the next year are you?
lotta mentally unhinged individuals in this thread ngl
2bh killing my first deer was a smaller paradigm shift for me.
I went in to both eating my first pussy and butchering my first animal in the same way, with zero afterthought and no hesitation. Why are you guys such homosexuals?
First time I ate pussy the girl had bruises on her lips for a whole week. First time I killed a deer I was surprised by how red arterial bleeding is. Grossed out by the big clot on the ground
Drag the 200lb deer 30 m then you'll be too exhausted to give a shit about it
>Whoever in my gym lifts without my knowledge lifts without my consent
the freedom of pajeets is an insult to me. I’d have them all put in loos
I finally read Blood Meridian and I wasn’t very impressed with Cormac’s prose.
He has a good vocabulary or at least a thesaurus on his desk, I’ll give him that. And while I appreciate dense writing I find he just fires off long alliterative similes and metaphors that go on when he could just say “the searing sun rose” or something like that. It’s just overkill but for people raised on airport-tier fiction I can see it seeming very Literary with a capital L.
Blood Meridian itself was tedious. Graphic description of violence over and over again, it got pretty old. I don’t think I’ll be reading anything by him in the near future.
>Graphic description of violence over and over again
This is why I never got into his writing, that shit was fun and edgy as a teen but I'm over it
I'm not a great fan of Blood Meridian (Suttree was about a million times better), but I think you might be too stupid for literature.
McCarthy's stories make better movies than novels. His writing is dogshit.
>he could just say “the searing sun rose”
I hate homosexuals like you so much
Any homosexual could say the searing sun rose. It takes a real based Black person like McCarthy to conjure up
>They rode on and the sun in the east flushed pale streaks of light
>and then a deeper run of color like blood seeping up in sudden reaches flaring planewise
>and where the earth drained up into the sky at the edge of creation
>the top of the sun rose out of nothing like the head of a great red phallus
>until it cleared the unseen rim and sat squat and pulsing and malevolent behind them.
So gay
I have an excellent vocabulary, I am a STEM researcher with around 40 pubs, I’ve always read voraciously and I love obscure words and jargon. But McCarthy’s prose was just too dense, overly ornate for the sake of being ornate and self-conscious for me to enjoy.
I think that it is far easier to be verbose and layer on similes, metaphors and adjectives than it is to be succinct, minimalist and still have powerful prose. All undergrads and early would-be writers go overboard with their writing, it’s common because they have a sophomoric “more is more” (as opposed to “less is more”) view. Writing successfully in Hemingway’s style (ie iceberg theory of writing) is much more difficult than McCarthy’s style because it requires restraint, careful parsimony and distilling the mood/scenery/action into few words. Writing 200 words about the sun rising with as many adjectives and similes as possible is dead simple to do, anyone can do this.
Like I said in my previous post, if all you’re used to is airport-tier literature and what you were forced to read in high school than yeah I can see Blood Meridian rocking your world. But for others it’s far from being impressive and it is simply tedious, redundant and overblown.
So did you have to get a rib removed for that post?
There was no gloating or anything like that. I wrote my credentials to show that I’m not an illiterate and I am prone to enjoying dense writing with obscure words and jargon, that I’m in some ways primed to like something like Blood Meridian. For some reason some people think if you don’t like Blood Meridian it’s because you “didn’t understand it” or were “intimidated by the big words and prose”. None of these are true for me.
take a page out of your own book there son
I’m critiquing something not writing a novel and concerned with style and brevity,
You forgot the next 200 words being devoted to describing the stench of piss and shit (again), but other than that you're spot on.
Agree on this
Dostoyevsky was an easier read despite crime and Punishment being more than twice as longer and wordier
Really? I found the opposite to be true, Crime and Punishment took me forever to get through, but Blood Median didn't take me as long.
Exactly, that's the whole point. I understand style may not appeal to everyone, but if you want simple shit, read simple shit.
You never see anyone calling hemingway a hack for writing like a high school senior either. Curious
>the searing sun rose
*ding ding ding*
hark! a toast for anon, man of letters and cavalier in his prose thus. salute!
>when he could just say “the searing sun rose” or something like that.
this. I prefer authors that use more efficient prose. Brandon Sanderson is a good example of what I mean
Is this a fricking joke? Brandon Sanderson? Goddamn you have absolute garbage tier taste in literature. That's like saying you prefer reading books handwritten by Steven kings moronic sister with cerebral palsy.
People say edgy shit like 'blood meridian' is so terrifying and it's literally mid shit. It's not horrifying it's just life. You're on IST you've never seen gore before? Are you in your early twenties or something?
>Are you in your early twenties or something?
Are you not? If so, lmao
I'm 40 years old like most ISTners. Frick outta here little guy.
IST is an early millennial website, anon.
Millennials have been here longer than you’ve known how to fortnite emote homosexual
Zoomers are just a cargo cult dancing in ISTs grave hoping for lulz
Watching zoomers discuss blood meridian because some gay on youtube told them the cliff notes is really embarrassing stuff. Typical gay moronic contrarianism from IST dweebs but without sufficient reading comprehension to make a good contrarian analysis. The education system is fricked
assuming you’re white and at least 6’9, here is what you can do from here to achieve judgemode
>permabulk
>shave every hair on your body and pluck out your eyelashes
>avoid the sun as much as possible
>wear cool suits
>keep a journal
>rape whatever you can get your hands on
>kill for sport
there are some superficial things that will have you well on your way, but in order to truly judgemaxx, you’ll need to learn everything there is to know including languages and the nature of man
My bookstore has a deal 3 books for 30$. Cities of plain, The Passenger and Blood Meridian. Should I buy it? Sounds good to me.
Cities of the Plain is the last book in his Border Trilogy which I like more than Blood Meridian.
So either just buy Blood Meridian or All the Pretty Horses
Thanks anon. The Blood meridian is like 11$ so I don't mind. I can buy more whenever I want in the future.
Nobody human has ever had that physique natty
That being said Holden might be something more
I thought he was supposed to have a baby face, like a buddah
The only time I remember him being described as a baby in the book was when they were naked in the fountain and he was described as pale bald and hairless like a baby
I've never read any of the "great" books. I saw a top 100 list that started with Moby Dick and Blood Meridian. Should I just start there?
Reading hurts your gains
I was in the position on my early 20's so went on a speedrun through all the "classics". It's a meme. Might as well have watched all the marvel movies or something.
I remember reading catcher in the rye and just being frustrated at what a little homosexual he was.
I think there is deeper meaning in the classics but it’s from a time pre mass media so people weren’t exposed to as many concepts. Now we are exposed to so many ideas and concepts it’s hard to take novels that serious.
Im moronic. Wholeheartedly agree and Im glad the overarching opinion of catcher in the rye has shifted to “its shit”. It only got famous because that downie said it convinced him to shoot someone famous. Can’t imagine hoe moronic you’d have to be to be influenced by such a shit book (and completely misinterpret the themes at that). I guess he was the original ‘literally me’
The protagonist is a moronic, angsty teenager, he's SUPPOSED to come across as a whiney little homosexual.
Dude looks like Kane fricked Baraka and made that.
The freedom of manlets is an insult to me. I'd have them all in pits.
You need a Brock lesnar type endo-meso physique steroids and a lot of lifting
That’s an inaccurate depiction of the Judge, he’s supposed to fat and almost cherubic despite his insane height and size
Anyways, to achieve judge Holden mode you must frick morons and children
Judge Holden too evil mang.
I’d hate to be a little Mexican girl with him in a room haha, wouldn’t that be weird haha.
>How can I achieve this physique?
5 Sets of scalping native americans
3 Sets of raping kids
4 Sets of carrying around a giant canon
Infinity sets of dancing and never dying
Who's he the judge of?
Quiet down before he hears you
>How can I achieve this physique?
Be a metaphorical and maybe literal demon from Hell. Literally rape other men to death.
I read the book a long time ago but I dont remember it saying anything about Holden being jacked, just really tall and pale white.
Oh yeah. For some reason they had us read the martian chronicles in 3rd grade. Weird choice
Bradbury is too 50s nostalgia. His stories never really struck a nerve with me especially the fantasy stuff.
I would say read The Veldt if you haven't just because it's one of my favorites. Probably won't change your mind, though. What kind of books do you typically like?
I thought the veldt was okay but his stories just seem like maybe they’ve lost their innovativeness over time, they strike me as quite old fashioned and basically putting 1950s Americana on Venus, ie not much world building or critical insight into how society would change and evolve. Just 1950s America but with robots and on Mars sort of thing. Good to read as a time capsule for when he was writing and captured the time’s neuroses and concerns.
I read all sorts of stuff including Sci-fi. He’s flawed to be sure but I really like PK Dick’s work. He pushed the boundaries on ideas and developed characters a bit more so even though his hard sci-fi ideas are pretty weak the stories still hold up today. His recurring themes like entropy and empathy are good.
Can't argue with that, I guess I just enjoy immersing myself in that vision of the future. I'm not super well-versed in sci-fi beyond the essentials like Dune, you ever read anything by the Strugatskys?
No but I’ll check them out. I listened to some old Dimension X/X Minus One broadcasts, for example ones written by Heinlein, and they were nice comfy nostalgia sci-fi. You might like these.
Everyone likes Roadside Picnic, very different from Stalker though. I liked The Doomed City more. I'll go find some of those broadcasts that sounds cool. I need to get a Heinlein collection at some point, at this rate I'll never actually read I Have No Mouth
farmer carries until failure 3 times a day 5 days a week
back until failure 3 times a day 5 days a week
dont train chest
SS+GOMAD
He's supposed to look like a big baby dipshit
white George floyd
Quite possibly the scariest antagonist I’ve ever read about, scarier than any antagonist across all different types of media including movies, shows, games, etc.
You’ve got to be kidding me
judge holden was neither jacked nor had eyebrows or eyelashes
he was a mass of flesh. like a giant baby.
>the birds should fear the strong
he's lifting, lifting. He says that he will leave humanity behind