Ketolards of IST
How are you SHITTING, what are you doing to starve the keto hairloss, how are your dealing with the keto IBS?
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Ketolards of IST
How are you SHITTING, what are you doing to starve the keto hairloss, how are your dealing with the keto IBS?
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has any ketosister ever posted body?
Here's mine, i 've been doing keto for 7 years.
frick keto. just eat in a cal deficit gay. carbs are essential for the human body
Post body
>carbs are essential for the human body
theyre not. no nutrition textbook ever says that anywhere because its not true. your body makes all the glucose you could ever need save for some rare genetic disorders
>your body makes all the glucose
>not essential
Its so unessential that your body makes it
>Its so unessential that your body makes it
that's literally what essential and non-essential means in the context of nutrition. if you need it but can't make it then it's essential.
>no nutrition textbook ever says that anywhere
Ahem
>Carbohydrates are the perfect nutrient to meet your body’s nutritional needs. They nourish your brain and nervous system, provide energy to all of your cells when within proper caloric limits, and help keep your body fit and lean.
It also tells why ketards are morons
>For all organisms from bacteria to plants to animals, glucose is the preferred fuel source. The brain is completely dependent on glucose as its energy source
https://pressbooks.oer.hawaii.edu/humannutrition2/chapter/4-introduction/
Anon you are not supposed to keto all year long but only during cutting
You know that during the keto diet you eat a lot more protein you normally would
Never says essential. Not essential. No glucose is needed in the diet
>Never says essential. Not essential. No glucose is needed in the diet
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Are you dumb? Intro bio books can't stfu about the importance of carbs. Frick, it's widely regarded that primordial single cell organisms moves around to consume sugar. To be clear I'm using sugar as a formal term, not as table sugars.
not essential for humans meaning you don't have to eat it
Macro nutrients:
>fat - if you don't consume any you die
>protein - if you don't consume any you die
>carbs - if you don't consume any you stay healthy and robust through gluconeogenesis
You're underinformed
>Are you dumb? Intro bio books can't stfu about the importance of carbs. Frick, it's widely regarded that primordial single cell organisms moves around to consume sugar. To be clear I'm using sugar as a formal term, not as table sugars.
if you are eating meat you can get all the glucose you need from that... but it's more efficient to get your carbs from fruit or starchy foods, if you want to live an optimal life, you will want to eat a varied and balanced omnivore diet, consisting of high quality animal proteins and fats, fruit, vegetables, grains, the more variety the better, says any centenarian. You won't meet a centenarian that lived on steak and eggs, or on a strict vegan diet ( unless 100 pills a day )
>frick keto. just eat in a cal deficit gay. carbs are essential for the human body
this
Carbs are not essential. You can make all the glucose you ever need without eating any carbs
timestamp or you're just larping
Incredible fricking body if not larping.
You're just like the guys that eat normal food.
You've also been roiding for 7 years.
Oh nononono
>Perfect body selfie
>No timestamp
>Claims he somehow got it through the worst diet
Lol
once upon a time somebody in decent shape posted their body larping as a ketard and it gets recycled forever since.
none of them ever post body because they're still fat.
No, just like vegangays, they all hide when called out.
Because we all know, vegangays and ketotards have the worst physiques known to man.
I don't even think ketards even post threads very often on here. It's usually more along the line of carnivore threads or some vegan calling everything that's not vegan keto.
Every single person doing any diet is fat. Guys who aren't fat don't need to diet. You can go to literally any thread talking about diets and 100% of the people in them are fat.
Besides, even if some super IST guy shills a diet, it doesn't mean anything if he doesn't have a before pic. If someone's never lost a significant amount of weight and just went from normal to IST what makes them think they have any insight on how to lose large amounts of weight?
What's upset the vegangays this time?
Everything upsets them. If you were as malnourished as they are from eating literal sawdust fake meat garbage, you'd be upset as well.
I can't fast because I get light headed, start shaking, and feeling weak
>drink salt water
I do, but it still happens.
salt water
There are more electrolytes that just salt.
All electrolytes are interchangeable. Do you think all people forever had access to every electrolyte? No. As long as you are getting some you will be OK. All of them is optimal but you can survive on just sodium.
i cant fast because it drains me of all my charisma and i default into being an antisocial prick. i cant be nice unless i eat.
Like a toddler who throws a temper tantrum when he's hungry lol.
If you can't go a day without feeling moody, you need a serious reset.
nuh uh
literal child mindset
You're mentally ill.
Ignore them its a meme. The only reason to pick a meme diet is more moral reasons. Much better to just eat less and exercise more for slow, steady weight loss.
Shits are pretty solid these days, too solid I'd say actually. Have to strain pretty hard to get it out. Keto hairloss isn't a thing, and I haven't had any IBS problems since doing keto. Used to have problems every couple days.
Ozempic.
>metabolic consequences if you stop taking it
I’m 3.5 days into my 1 week fast. 2nd attempt ever and I think I’m actually going to be able to do it (I failed the first time 3 days in). Anyone got any advice for the last few days?
As someone who actually lost over 150 lbs and maintained it for 2 years, the best weight loss strategy I know is this:
-CICO is bullshit without good nutrition
-Learn about foods that are engineered to make you keep eating, foods that drain your energy and make you hungry again an hour later
-Learn about satiating foods
-Aimed for 70g-90g of carbs per day, low but not too low
-Highish fat / Highish protein diet
-Food sources matter, it's more than just good vs bad carbs/fats.... all foods have their own unique, individual properties. Choose good foods.
-Do 20-25 mins of HIIT 4-5x per week
Based and nuancepilled.
the fact this homie actually trained just to look so dyel really means it's hopeless being natty for some of us genetic homosexuals
at least i still mog normals and look good but i'll never stop feeling like a little boy and not a man
frick roids tho
Mogging normies is the only thing that matters.
>Conservation of energy is bs without proper nutrition
Statement doesn't make sense. CICO is always valid regardless of nutrition, whatever nutrition is supposed to mean (I assume either macro breakdown or micro breakdown). To wit, you can be malnourished at any weight (i.e. regardless of CICO). CICO works, full stop.
>CICO works
Please compare the difference in chemistry between the human metabolism and a bomb calorimeter.
I went from 216 to 180 by literally just eating dinner, running, body weight exercises, and 5 to 10 mile morning walks. Its litearlly easy, hell I've even fricked up my diet and had cake for breakfast recently and last weekend I drank way too much beer and I'm still losing weight. Best advice I can give is what your work is, who you work with, and how you stressful your work is all contibute to weight gain. I had no idea I was an emotional eater until I realized that I was always snacking when I had a bad day. Iunno, I guess its easier for me because I work from home, I don't have friends so I don't really have anyone asking me out to eat or trying to sabotage me.
>Tl;dr: Literally just eat dinner, run, go for at least 5 mile walks once a day (preferably in the morning before work), and do some sort of strength traingin and even if you frick up on your diet you will still lose weight
CICO is real but so are hormones. You can't really beat either. Not in the long term. Otherwise very good post for other big losers
CICO is not a diet, is a fact, saying that is bullshit withouth good nutrition is like saying "1-1=0 is bullshit without the right 1s".
>drink gasoline
>gain 400lbs
>eat 1g radium
>next week weigh 5,000 lbs
Damn why did no one tell me that through the magic of cico I can never eat again?
Calories you can't use are not "in"
>those 1s are not the right 1s!!1!
So it does matter what you eat?
Someone post the rat study where they two groups identical calories and identical ratios of macros but one group was fed cottonseed oil while the other was fed butter fat with dramatically different outcomes.
1s are not the right 1s!!1!
They're not relevant if they're not in the equation at all.
>-CICO is bullshit without good nutrition
please explain how you disproved the laws of thermodynamics
CICO is moronic unless you’re also doing IIFYM. You need to balance your diet, not eat ice cream all day and stay within your TDEE. You need nutrients from a balanced diet.
keto actually makes fasting easy, I find. before I go on a fast, I typically just eat beef for like 3 days so the fast is more tolerable.
>Moxyte’s not getting enough attention
Who?
Some fat low IQ vegan who doesn’t know what Keto is
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19641727/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6371871/#:~:text=Ketogenic%20diets%20can%20help%20patients,10%20kg%20with%20any%20diet.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7641470/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2690585/
https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/0003-4819-140-10-200405180-00007
>Keto, your brain on
Good argument Moxyte, almost as cringe as seeing you get BTFO in your own sub by anyone with more than one brain cell.
Not that butthole-
Has anyone seen anything closely related to the ultimatum of pathetic?
Kys Moxyte
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I have a feeling this guy is as fat as he accuses other people to be... How can you troll IST and post screen capts onto reddit for 2 years and not be obese and jobless?
He is obese.
>moxyte is real and not a ketoschizo delusion
Alright I’ll admit I’m surprised by this bit of life
Lore*
I forgot about that!
Yeah a lot of people don't know that vegans have been trolling bodybuilding pages for more than a decade, aggressively being anti-keto and anti-high-fat diets. It's because doing a high fat/low carb diet while vegan is nearly impossible.
how does moxyte cope with the fact that fasting consumes animal fat and put you in ketosis?
Nobody. Not one single person. Nobody. Mentioned vegans. You're a directionbrain.
The person you're replying to didn't mention vegans either, you're schizophrenic and you're projecting.
But he did raise a good point - if keto is bad for you, which I tend to agree, then fasting must also be bad for you. Fasting has always seemed like an eating disorder to me. There are lots of anecdotes of people ending up in the emergency room after fasting unsupervised.
>if keto is bad for you, which I tend to agree, then fasting must also be bad for you.
correct.
when did i say vegan, moxyte?
Way to admit that you're a vegan who's here to subvert any good/healthy fitness discussion to push a vegan agenda
>How do I lose weight
Eat less
>How are you SHITTING
I'm going to shit in your mouth, moxyte
>israelite cries while keto becomes ever more popular
yep, im thinking based
good point most israelites vouch for far less animal product. Like that one Black person had crack em ups healthier than an egg or some shit on that one table. the israelite will also somehow point to bacon wrapped butter which is the absolute worst thing ketos could eat, when in turn a vegan can down twinkies gobblegums and Black person shit and still be vegan kek.
Is keto really becoming more popular? Seemed like it peaked a few years ago.
OY GEVALT!
>Mark Hyman
Funny cause I saw an infommercial of him last night about some sort of herbal wienertail pill he was trying to sell to people who can't control their bladders, lmfao.
All these keto shitters and vegan homosexuals fighting, meanwhile it just feels good to be an omnivore.
Yeah love being an omnivore, had a chicken and rice plate with a Greek yogurt with freshly picked blackberries in it
I have a proposition.
What about I fast for three days and take tren ace?
What am I in for?
>religious spastics believe in starving yourself
Colour me surprised.
>Colour
Britbongs and Indians (same thing) are not allowed in this thread
And why ketards are dyels
>Carbohydrates are critical to support life’s most basic function—the production of energy. Without energy none of the other life processes are performed. Although our bodies can synthesize glucose it comes at the cost of protein destruction.
More on carbs
>In regard to refined grains, there are no studies that show consumption of refined grains increases weight gain or disease risk. What is clear, however, is that getting more of your carbohydrates from dietary sources containing whole grains instead of refined grains stimulates weight loss and reduces disease risk.
And shoots down ketard diets
>Since the early 1990s, marketers of low-carbohydrate diets have bombarded us with the idea that eating fewer carbohydrates promotes weight loss and that these diets are superior to others in their effects on weight loss and overall health. The most famous of these low-carbohydrate diets is the Atkins diet. Others include the “South Beach” diet, the “Zone” diet, and the “Earth” diet. Despite the claims these diets make, there is little scientific evidence to support that low-carbohydrate diets are significantly better than other diets in promoting long-term weight loss.
30yo white male, mostly sedentary
5th of July, SW: 104.7kg
OMAD Keto everyday, 1200kcal only
Around 75gr of protons, 75g of fats and 20g proteins (meal prep a sort of big chili pot)
Only three cheat meals throughout this time
As of this morning, CW: 96.1kg
All lifts have gone up, shit once a day at the same time a single clean log.
GW is 82-84kg.
Post body
still a fatass, will post body at GW
Post lifts
Keto and non keto homies is it over for me?
just stop relying on fat idiot
research what foods will provide mcfa
Juice fasts are the most effective
These fruitarians that basically starve while slamming hundreds of grams a sugar a day kind of shit all over the insulin weight gain theory
>eat no protein
>waste away
wow thats crazy man. any other genius hot takes?
neither of these address the insulin theory crowd. lack of protein wouldn't explain why they aren't carrying any fat at all
>second comment doesn't address the insulin theory crowd
This is how I know you don't know what you are talking about.
anon... wtf do you think your body is doing for 8 hours while your sleeping...
Isn't fasting just accelerated keto?
>what are you doing to starve the keto hairloss
>Most men who do keto are in their mid-20s or late-30s, around the time that men start to lose hair as their testoserone declines
>"No its their diet!"
I don't understand this at all.
It is actually their race, its the power of the white race
kinda sorta, DHT, Dihydrotestosterone, the hormone that makes you grow a beard interestingly enough, when it binds on your face it promotes beard growth, but whent it binds onto the hair folicals on your head it makes you lose your hair. So like how black people being sunburned means that they are way more likely to get skin cancer, how asians are the most lactose intolerante race, whites just produce way more DHT than any other race early on.
blacks seem to lose their hair a lot too
>Commonly said things are now onions
While I appreciate the memes dabbing on leftists they are starting to reach so hard now that people legitamately thing that common linguistic tropes of the era are now "bad". Also for w/e reason the "This is such a mood" one looks really out of place from the rest and is more of a woman/zoomer thign to say than a balding millenial leftist, but I think it should also stay on there cause I fricking hate that one the most.
tldr
tldr
>the keto hairloss,
I'm actually growing hair in my bald spots.
Seethe fda troony
Why would you lose hair on keto but not on a fast?
Just take biotin for your hair
Fasting puts you in ketosis.
fasting is good if you have nothing to do
i can't justify the energy loss, it ruins my gym sessions and destroys my productivity at work
unless you're morbidly obese, just do more cardio and eat clean, avoid junk food and you cover like 80% of not being fat
>shitting
Great, clean'fast' healthy' infrequent shita
>hair loss
None here. Well past 30 and my hairline has not receded or thinned at all. Only a few stray white hairs
>keto IBS
Elimination diets are used to eliminate and identify food allergies. They are a carnivore and therefore keyo diet
Fasting is great, especially when not eating carbs. Highly recommend.
Now kys yourself OP
Congrats man
idk what the frick is wrong with me, but i get incredibly irritated when I'm doing fasting 23-1. I fricking know that I'm supposed to restore my electrolytes and I also avoid caffeine after 4pm but I still get stressed a lot.
What is that OP lmao. Also I have been on a 500 cal deficit with some light cardio/strength training for a month. I've lost 10 pounds, every day I wake up my face looks and feels thinner, I feel AMAZING every day (this is in a large part due to stopping alcohol consumption), and I'm noticeably losing weight
It's that ez. Why are you idiots doing these psychotic diets.
I had some serious scary shits when I was hard-core keto, like passing soft balls out my ass. I was scared of having a heart attack, which is a common way for men to have them.
I recommend stool softener if you're getting into keto.
Wtf, I never knew that it's common for men to have heart attack while shitting. Now I have a new thing to worried about
Doing it wrong lol. Eat more veggies they’re extremely low in carbs. I barely counted them when I was on keto. Anything cruciferous like broccoli or kale was free game. I did count veggies like carrots and pretty much all fruit though because it’s easy to overdo it.
>fasting(keto)
>fasting(keto)
>fasting(keto)
>fasting(keto)
>fasting(keto)
>it's the carbs(keto)
Fasting is ketogenic if you didn't realize.
Moxye is not really smart and doesn't actually know what ketosis is. He's just really angry about his sexual assault and lashes out.
>How are you SHITTING
Lots of salad greens and fibrous vegetables
>what are you doing to starve the keto hairloss,
Not my problem
>how are your dealing with the keto IBS?
Don't have it my diet isn't acidic enough to kill off gi's ecology
>my diet isn't acidic enough to kill off gi's ecology
Not a thing
DO NOT TRUST """FARTS""" ON KETO, I SHIT MYSELF VERY BAD
If you’re having gastrointestinal issues on keto then you’re eating too much fiber, probably in those shitty keto treats which have like 20g allulose fiber per bar and also make it worse by adding sugar alcohols.
Allulose isn't fiber
>obesity has never been a problem in human history
>steadily replace more and more of the diet with seed oils and refined sugar starting about 100 years ago
>for about the past 100 years obesity has increased in prevalence is now a huge problem, referred to as an epidemic
>you just need to fast, don’t blame foods
You’re a literal moron. How much fasting were Westerners doing in the 1920s, dipshit?
Did you even look at the meme
>it's another schizo samegayging thread