Got a DUI last December and took a long painful look in the mirror. Couldn't really afford to eat out anymore so started cooking all my own meals. All animal fat and potatoes instead of seed oil and bread. Started working out religiously, mostly for mental health reasons, and quit drinking entirely. Since then I've lost almost 40 lbs. Oils, bread, and liquor will kill you.
>i was a moronic alcoholic making moron decisions, and i had a severe wake up call, so what i decided i'd do was jump straight into another extreme situation and claim everything to the contrary is evil and wrong
sounds like you made that up. even if true natural and industrially produced trans fats are not the same. dairy and beef contain trans fats which are thought to have health benefits
Look as a European I'm only willing to larp as a cool viking who cooks with butter or a based roman soldier who cooks with olive oil and there's nothing you can do about it.
Cold press and unprocessed sunflower oil isn't the hardest thing to come by but I won't get the hyperprocessed shit they typically sell at stores just like I wouldn't get the oil press dregs they sell as generic olive oil.
Besides evoo is actually cheaper than unfricked sunflower oil.
not sure about peanut but i think a bit of sesame is okay if you dont heat it too much. i add it at the end of a stir fry when its done cooking but ymmv
>ignores the boomers who lived to be 90 who lived on these oils for most of their lives
Sure, there are better oils, but seed oils in reasonable amounts won't frick you up, anyone who claims otherwise is a fricking pseudoscience homosexual who has no clue what they're talking about.
Seed oil usage was much lower when the boomers were young than it is now. The rise of seed oil consumption is by far the biggest change in the American diet over the last few decades. Now, you may or may not be right that small amounts won't be that harmful, but with how cheap they are and how bad they are at filling you up (compare french fries fried in tallow vs oil, the first will make you feel full with a notably smaller portion) seed oils end up being really easy to over eat.
Avoiding them completely might be easier for a lot of people than trying to be careful in the amount they use. And tallow, lard, butter, olive oil, etc end up tasting better anyways.
So it all comes down to personal responsibility and limiting your calories? Gosh what a shocker. >the first will make you feel full with a notably smaller portion
Bullshit. There is little to no difference in satiety. And not having any fat on them at all(just plain potato) will massively increase satiety. So the recommendations of eating lower fat were correct.
boomers are at most like 75 years old dumbass
The ppl in their 90s are silent generation and food 50 years ago still was using butter, tallow and lard. There was a limited usage of seed oils, cottonseed oil in shortening mostly but most ppl cooked with butter until the 1980s and by 1997 butter was barely used. So the boomers, who are extremely fat and have aged horribly, have been hopped up on seed oils and lead paint their whole lives thats why they are fricking dumb and fat with tons of cancer.
any senior alive today is gassed to the gills on pharmaceuticals to stay alive. The government and society is basically under their control, making sure everything we do needs a pill.
Seed oil truthers are all the dumbest guy in the room who think they found an easy route to big brain town. Your body chews it up and shits it out like everything else. Stop being moronic gays.
Not quite. >However, the proportion of lipid free to diffuse in the plasma membrane varied with diet, being significantly greater (P < 0.05) in animals fed chow (63.7%), coconut oil (61.5%), and butterfat (57.6%) diets than in those fed the corn oil (47.3%) diet. Animals fed fish oil showed an intermediate (50.0%) proportion of lipid free to diffuse. The data support the hypothesis that dietary lipids can change both the chemical composition and lateral organization (lipid domain structure) of rat hepatocyte plasma membranes.
You are what you eat, anon. >Dietary lipids can modify the properties of cell membranes, including membrane fluidity and membrane permeability. The saturation and isomerization of dietary fatty acids may affect the pattern of fatty acids acylated to glycerol in phospholipids. Oxidized sterols may affect membrane properties directly by their insertion in the membrane or indirectly through their effects on lipid metabolism. The flow of calcium and other nutrients into the cells appears to be a major property affected by those changes in lipid composition of membranes and may be important in the onset of atherosclerosis. The factors that alter the character of the lipids in cell membranes should receive increased study in both in vitro and in vivo systems to clarify their role in diseases processes.
I wish it were so, anon. >The balance of dietary fats, namely saturated versus unsaturated, and polyunsaturated fatty acids (PUFA) of the n-6 series versus those of the n-3 series, may change membrane composition thus affecting membrane order, intracellular signaling processes, and gene expression. As a consequence, changes in the production of both lipid and peptide mediators influencing the individual adaptive responses take place.
You are what you eat, anon. >Dietary lipids can modify the properties of cell membranes, including membrane fluidity and membrane permeability. The saturation and isomerization of dietary fatty acids may affect the pattern of fatty acids acylated to glycerol in phospholipids. Oxidized sterols may affect membrane properties directly by their insertion in the membrane or indirectly through their effects on lipid metabolism. The flow of calcium and other nutrients into the cells appears to be a major property affected by those changes in lipid composition of membranes and may be important in the onset of atherosclerosis. The factors that alter the character of the lipids in cell membranes should receive increased study in both in vitro and in vivo systems to clarify their role in diseases processes.
I wish it were so, anon. >The balance of dietary fats, namely saturated versus unsaturated, and polyunsaturated fatty acids (PUFA) of the n-6 series versus those of the n-3 series, may change membrane composition thus affecting membrane order, intracellular signaling processes, and gene expression. As a consequence, changes in the production of both lipid and peptide mediators influencing the individual adaptive responses take place.
Can someone explain to me where this nonsensical meme came from?
I keep seeing it everywhere but nobody ever links a study or source.
It's always just some moronic picture like in the OP...
old clinical trials that were buried but recently recovered and reanalyzed a few years ago >Available evidence from randomized controlled trials shows that replacement of saturated fat in the diet with linoleic acid effectively lowers serum cholesterol but does not support the hypothesis that this translates to a lower risk of death from coronary heart disease or all causes. Findings from the Minnesota Coronary Experiment add to growing evidence that incomplete publication has contributed to overestimation of the benefits of replacing saturated fat with vegetable oils rich in linoleic acid.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27071971/
a bunch of different things >takes an enormous amount of these seeds to make these oils, which aren't even meant to be eaten, they're all by/waste product of farming, conveniently sold this way >ray peat >french and israeli paradox
Someday they'll pay
Got a DUI last December and took a long painful look in the mirror. Couldn't really afford to eat out anymore so started cooking all my own meals. All animal fat and potatoes instead of seed oil and bread. Started working out religiously, mostly for mental health reasons, and quit drinking entirely. Since then I've lost almost 40 lbs. Oils, bread, and liquor will kill you.
>i was a moronic alcoholic making moron decisions, and i had a severe wake up call, so what i decided i'd do was jump straight into another extreme situation and claim everything to the contrary is evil and wrong
you are just low IQ, man
>nooooo you NEED to do bad things but in moderation!!!
you're both morons
>eating normal food is extremism
Do you also believe not watching porn makes one a far right extremist?
>all of these oils are BAD
>but... olive oil GOOD
tell me why without googling right now
Thats like putting you hand on a stove top, turning it on, and waiting for it to burn you.
>see it was the stove top killing me!
No. It was you the entire time.
You ate less calories and burned more calories Anon. I can eat twinkies all day and lose weight if I eat under my TDEE
Frick those other homosexuals giving you shit, anon. Good job, and keep it up.
Good job bro
Lmaoing at the sneed oil defence force giving you shit
What does that second one say?
Cottonseed oil
you are soooo dumb
So which are the good oils? I know avocado oil is supposedly good but it makes certain foods taste bad
fruit oils and animal fats are good
so olive, avocado, coconut
virgin westoid vs chad greek
should be med chad not nord chad
Coconut oil has a shitton of transfat. Shit is poison.
sounds like you made that up. even if true natural and industrially produced trans fats are not the same. dairy and beef contain trans fats which are thought to have health benefits
coconut oil is like 96% saturated fat
no such thing. they are all evil bastards
Olive oil and Coconut oil. Don't listen to anyone, those two are the only oils you should be using
Must suck being American
Olive oil is still sold everywhere here carlos
But can you fry an egg with olive oil though?
Sure
Why wouldnt you be able too?
Yep, but using EVO for frying literally erase all the EVO benefits cause volatile compounds from burning
using butter is better but do it fast so it doesnt get brown and gross. Eggs dont need to be cooked as long as meat
That's why ghee is great
what are the claimed negative health effects of 'seed oil'?
d.com/diet/health-benefits-of-vegetable-oil
You morons. Stop listening to bro science
>~~*webmd*~~
Nice try Shlomo
Look as a European I'm only willing to larp as a cool viking who cooks with butter or a based roman soldier who cooks with olive oil and there's nothing you can do about it.
Which one is the absolute worst so I can avoid it like the plague?
Canola for sure.
Read the story behind the creation
Oh look its another undereducated mutt, easily manipulated by its lying media to avoid him looking at the real problems in its society.
Cold press and unprocessed sunflower oil isn't the hardest thing to come by but I won't get the hyperprocessed shit they typically sell at stores just like I wouldn't get the oil press dregs they sell as generic olive oil.
Besides evoo is actually cheaper than unfricked sunflower oil.
so, peanut and sesame oil are fine ?
not sure about peanut but i think a bit of sesame is okay if you dont heat it too much. i add it at the end of a stir fry when its done cooking but ymmv
>ignores the boomers who lived to be 90 who lived on these oils for most of their lives
Sure, there are better oils, but seed oils in reasonable amounts won't frick you up, anyone who claims otherwise is a fricking pseudoscience homosexual who has no clue what they're talking about.
>lived to be 90
then they were still in the age when tallow, lard, and butter were the go-tos for the entirety of their early life
Seed oil usage was much lower when the boomers were young than it is now. The rise of seed oil consumption is by far the biggest change in the American diet over the last few decades. Now, you may or may not be right that small amounts won't be that harmful, but with how cheap they are and how bad they are at filling you up (compare french fries fried in tallow vs oil, the first will make you feel full with a notably smaller portion) seed oils end up being really easy to over eat.
Avoiding them completely might be easier for a lot of people than trying to be careful in the amount they use. And tallow, lard, butter, olive oil, etc end up tasting better anyways.
So it all comes down to personal responsibility and limiting your calories? Gosh what a shocker.
>the first will make you feel full with a notably smaller portion
Bullshit. There is little to no difference in satiety. And not having any fat on them at all(just plain potato) will massively increase satiety. So the recommendations of eating lower fat were correct.
ok keep eating ur canola oil we dont care. Become a greasepuss fatass and get cancer at 65 like all the boomers
>calories go up
>"wow people are gaining weight. How can this be happening"
boomers are at most like 75 years old dumbass
The ppl in their 90s are silent generation and food 50 years ago still was using butter, tallow and lard. There was a limited usage of seed oils, cottonseed oil in shortening mostly but most ppl cooked with butter until the 1980s and by 1997 butter was barely used. So the boomers, who are extremely fat and have aged horribly, have been hopped up on seed oils and lead paint their whole lives thats why they are fricking dumb and fat with tons of cancer.
any senior alive today is gassed to the gills on pharmaceuticals to stay alive. The government and society is basically under their control, making sure everything we do needs a pill.
what about rapeseed oil?
also just use butter or olive oil, its not that fricking hard.
Rice bran oil? I have never seen or heard of that, ever.
Seed oil truthers are all the dumbest guy in the room who think they found an easy route to big brain town. Your body chews it up and shits it out like everything else. Stop being moronic gays.
Not quite.
>However, the proportion of lipid free to diffuse in the plasma membrane varied with diet, being significantly greater (P < 0.05) in animals fed chow (63.7%), coconut oil (61.5%), and butterfat (57.6%) diets than in those fed the corn oil (47.3%) diet. Animals fed fish oil showed an intermediate (50.0%) proportion of lipid free to diffuse. The data support the hypothesis that dietary lipids can change both the chemical composition and lateral organization (lipid domain structure) of rat hepatocyte plasma membranes.
PUFA deez nuts, homie.
You are what you eat, anon.
>Dietary lipids can modify the properties of cell membranes, including membrane fluidity and membrane permeability. The saturation and isomerization of dietary fatty acids may affect the pattern of fatty acids acylated to glycerol in phospholipids. Oxidized sterols may affect membrane properties directly by their insertion in the membrane or indirectly through their effects on lipid metabolism. The flow of calcium and other nutrients into the cells appears to be a major property affected by those changes in lipid composition of membranes and may be important in the onset of atherosclerosis. The factors that alter the character of the lipids in cell membranes should receive increased study in both in vitro and in vivo systems to clarify their role in diseases processes.
I wish it were so, anon.
>The balance of dietary fats, namely saturated versus unsaturated, and polyunsaturated fatty acids (PUFA) of the n-6 series versus those of the n-3 series, may change membrane composition thus affecting membrane order, intracellular signaling processes, and gene expression. As a consequence, changes in the production of both lipid and peptide mediators influencing the individual adaptive responses take place.
What's up with the sneed oil simps? What drives a "person" to defend an oil's honor on the internet?
Can someone explain to me where this nonsensical meme came from?
I keep seeing it everywhere but nobody ever links a study or source.
It's always just some moronic picture like in the OP...
old clinical trials that were buried but recently recovered and reanalyzed a few years ago
>Available evidence from randomized controlled trials shows that replacement of saturated fat in the diet with linoleic acid effectively lowers serum cholesterol but does not support the hypothesis that this translates to a lower risk of death from coronary heart disease or all causes. Findings from the Minnesota Coronary Experiment add to growing evidence that incomplete publication has contributed to overestimation of the benefits of replacing saturated fat with vegetable oils rich in linoleic acid.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27071971/
a bunch of different things
>takes an enormous amount of these seeds to make these oils, which aren't even meant to be eaten, they're all by/waste product of farming, conveniently sold this way
>ray peat
>french and israeli paradox