Explaining life as a 30 year old boomer to a 20-year-old can be frustrating due to the vast differences in life experiences, perspectives, and developmental stages between. For the zoomer, the concept of aging and its implications often seem distant and abstract, compounded by a societal narrative that tends to glorify youth and view aging negatively. This perception gap is further widened by the optimism bias typical of younger adults, who may feel invulnerable and unable to fully relate to the nuanced understanding of aging expressed by those a decade older. Consequently, attempts to communicate the realities and sometimes the unexpected positives of getting older can be met with misunderstanding or dismissal, making such conversations challenging and at times disheartening for the person in their 30s trying to share their insights.
I’m 37 and I am more fit now than ever but that’s not to say my hair isn’t receding and I don’t have wrinkles around my eyes when I smile.
If you’re lucky you’ll get old it’s just a part of life. It is jarring when you see the first signs but the best thing to do is just accept it and put more effort into your health. I’m always taking mental notes on what to do and what not to do when I see old people. There are some things you can’t control but you can certainly hedge your bets with obvious behaviors.
both men and women descend. but men's collagen production the facial skin doesn't decrease as rapid. at the same time, most men get wrecked by balding. most of my friends are visibly receding or thinning, even on medication. and those that aren't lost that luscious thick hair they had in their youth. it all depends on your face shape tho. some men can rock a nw2 hairline others lose 3 points
I went to Japan at 30. Right around my birthday for 31 I'm going to Thailand. I got to keep my 4pl8 squat, though admittedly I'm working with 4pl8 diddly instead of 1RMing 5pl8 right now. I also have to admit I had to be more careful with neck pain. I still get to do BJJ and muay thai. I still go on dates. I have plenty of money. I'm feeling plenty happy. Might be a skill issue.
Just turned 30 few months ago and the cope was real as I expected. When you hit 30 you still feel like a ‘Chad’ because you think you are in a new decade and new things are coming, but my friends are turning 31 and 32 and they told me that honeymoon phase of 30 is over and now you are in your thirties for real.
Every years gets worse and no, you can unfrick the brutality of aging and your peak is over sooner than later. That’s why monk mode is so bad. People are willing to go 5 years ‘improving’ and gymcelling instead of just going try to get a gf while they are still young.
Staying lean gets twice as hard, gains are minimal and you can feel your test dropping if you frick up your sleep.
Now the girls part. Personally I think I was at my peak at 28. Right now I think my smv dropped like a mf. Girls look at me but I just know they have better options than me despite being an 6/10. In 2024 it will be worse.
I was here in 2020 posting my stories about how I used to pull my hoes. Now I turned into an incel. I’m dry since Oct 23.
I blame redpillers for fricking up a generation of men's prime years. they really think men get more desireable with age and age like fine wine. it's some weird gender war revanchism combined with the delusional idea that we live in a patriarchy where a man's assets are important in genuine sexual and romantic attraction. sure getting money will get you action, but it won't get you love, ever
now there genuinely are some men who are handsome and grow even more into their looks or don't descend as fast. but they're anomalies. the 1% of the 1% of handsome men. to act as if that's standard is delusional at best and malicious at worst
now things do get better as you age, in your OWN age category. but no average man in his 30s is banging smoking hot college girls without it being a sugar daddy thing
I genuinely can't let go of my hate. I think my hate is the only thing that even keeps me alive. Its just such impotent rage I feel pathetic. But if I didn't have the hate I feel like i'd have suck started the shotty ages ago. What am I supposed to do with that?
hate towards women or society in general? (masked) self-hate? the only thing you can do is acceptance. accept the world as it is, accept that all the romantic notions you had a teenager were naive, that the loneliness you feel is not your fault but it is and will always be a part of you
then you either become a hedonist and try to maximise your pleasure ( either self-destructive or not) or try to change the world by building something lasting and meaningful ( on a macro scale: political activism or on a micro scale: starting a family and try to create a pocket of sanity and beauty in this shitstain of a world)
Its definitely a societal hate, which women are simply the purest expression of so from the outside it looks derived from women but its more existential (i've had gfs and am a failed normie).
The easiest and dumbest way to sum it up is just how gay everything feels now. Everything post smartphone/social-media age is just so gay now. Everyone is a homosexual, our modern idols are homosexual media influencers, people look and act like homosexuals. I don't even mean that in a homophobic way (kill all gays anyway), but just how there is virtually nothing left in society that appeals to my personal tastes. Sure there are other societies out there but they all come with huge caveats, like being backward pisslam shitholes with corrupt governments that you could never fully integrate into and alway be an outsider and where you go from existential horror of the west to physical horror of a dagestani village for instance.
Yeah obviously self-hate comes into question since im not the 2nd coming of hitler who could take back my country at least for a short moment of respite until the rest of the world comes to erase it.
I agree with your last sentence but the thing is if you’ve played your cards right you aren’t trying to bang smoking hot college girls when you’re older because you have a good wife and family. Besides the inevitable midlife crisis pangs you shouldn’t be 40 and running around like a 20 year old.
yes and you're a in a very small group of men just by that fact alone. my best mate is also 30 and banging an 18 y/o. he's tall and looks like a model tho. thoe cases are anomalous. doesn't mean shit for 98+% of guys. age doesn't improve your SMV like redpillers claim
The quality of women I dated actually went up. When I was teens and early 20s I was getting like 4s and 5s. Now I get like 6s-8s pretty much. I have been working out the whole time for the most part.
The thing which made a big difference for me honestly was just having better pictures for the dating apps. However it’s worth noting in romance novels like Twilight the vampire guy is old and powerful but looks youthful. Some people might say it comes down to money but sometimes there’s something else going on. The girl I’m seeing says she loves feeling desired like a trophy for an older guy.
I guess what I’m really trying to get at it is it’s not so cut and dry. 98% is a made up number. We only know what we are capable of when we have done all we can and tried until we are old and gray really.
your case is an exception. that's proven by statistics and a lot of life experience on my part. I'm genuinely happy for you, but don't try to portray that as the normal experience as an aging man. that's fricked up. I've known many men who've triend and tried and ended up nowhere
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Anonymous
I would meet you in the middle and say I’m optimistic and you might be more pessimistic. I am thankful things turned out the way they did for me. I have been truly blessed in this world and would wish the same for every other ISTizen.
Life used to be so horrible for me. I wanted to kill myself at many points and had no job or anything remarkable for so many years.
> The girl I’m seeing says she loves feeling desired like a trophy for an older guy.
And yet you take this type of sad behavior as a point of pride lol
I think the redpiller argument is that men's value increases as their net worth increases, and, on average, age is the best way to track that. Now that's not the case for me, I went through a divorce and lost everything and am rebuilding, but technically I was more stable 5 years ago. Anyways when I went out dating I did date and bone younger chicks, chicks that lived in shit hole apartments and couldn't afford to pay their rent half the time. If I wasnt living with my parents but had my own place I'd imagine I could get the much better looking girls out of that crowd and be rotating them nightly, letting them come home to a fine clean place with my nice Volvo in the driveway. Imagine what that would be like to those kinds of girls.
I dated a poor girl before and even helped her pay her rent. She wasn’t grateful and ended up treating me like shit.
I don’t think money makes much of a difference in the sense of a girl loving a guy.
1 month ago
Anonymous
money has 0 bearing on how attractive a woman finds you in raw sexual sense. on the contrary she might actually look down on you if you provide for her despite her feeling no attraction towards you. the inner shame she feels about being a prositute gets projected on you. if you already meet the looks threshold then yes money is a plus obviously
32 reporting in and it's 100% like this. the upside is that if you can get your shit together with resources and maturity you can pull girls that are looking for older dudes. its not the same as being in 20's at all but then again Gen Z males are halfway to being troons anyway. stay optimistic brah.
I blame redpillers for fricking up a generation of men's prime years. they really think men get more desireable with age and age like fine wine. it's some weird gender war revanchism combined with the delusional idea that we live in a patriarchy where a man's assets are important in genuine sexual and romantic attraction. sure getting money will get you action, but it won't get you love, ever
now there genuinely are some men who are handsome and grow even more into their looks or don't descend as fast. but they're anomalies. the 1% of the 1% of handsome men. to act as if that's standard is delusional at best and malicious at worst
now things do get better as you age, in your OWN age category. but no average man in his 30s is banging smoking hot college girls without it being a sugar daddy thing
Post body lardass
If you're fricked at 30 socially and physically, you were fricked at 25 the same way. If you were successful at 25, and a failure at 30, that's some level of frick up on you. You use age as a cope for being a failure your whole life
you didn't understand a single thing I said. of course if you take care of yourself you will age better as someone who doesn't ( also depending on your genetics of course) but the idea that you should go monk mode in your prime years just so you can slay in your 30s is idiotic, because it builds on the the typical redpill delusion that a man's SMV rises with age. don't waste your prime years. the quality of women available to you post 30 is horrible
I think the biggest thing, even if you age slowly is that you will automatically get filtered on online dating probably which has been my prime hunting ground.
Im 29 now and in a relationship so i wouldnt know but its kinda blackpilling to think I wouldnt have as easy a time if i ever had to go back on.
1 month ago
Anonymous
that's a great point actually. I imagine if you actually look young you could cheat that tho
1 month ago
Anonymous
>I imagine if you actually look young you could cheat that tho
only works if you want a quick pump and dump. I dont like lying about anything so wouldnt be an option for me.
1 month ago
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in my experience girls only care about your percieved age. an 18 y/o girl would much much rather frick a 30 y/o man who's tall, handsome and still looks 25 than some 18 y/o ugly dweeb. genuine attractive men are such a rare commodity that age won't devalue you really ( unless you start to visibly age and get ugly). but such men are very rare. like less than 1%
1 month ago
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Yeah I agree. High value masculine men are in such short supply that you can definitely still swing getting girls younger, but the biggest issue I would see is like I said being immediately filtered on online dating. Ive heard a lot of women put the filter to 30 or a couple years older than them.
1 month ago
Anonymous
true. you would either have to run irl/social game or cheat. I think if you're really that handsome that she's willing to frick you girls won't be THAT furious you tricked them
1 month ago
Anonymous
Im just gonna stay in my LTR as shes a good girl and mother material and stop worrying about this shit. Fricking around and being a man prostitute is a young mans game.
1 month ago
Anonymous
that's the right mentality to be fair. I mean I understand the appeal of being in your 30s and banging young women as much as the next guy but the joys of having a stable relationship and a potential family seems much more healthy
We all die time is running out your parents die before you to live on.
Anon just start a family and make yourself immortal it doesn’t matter when you are born or die, the only thing that matters is now
>23 y/o >6'3 305lbs 19%bf college football player >37 inch waist
no >30 >430lbs >havent worked out since 2020 >depressed all day andeat 5k calories everyday >live with parents >buying clothing to reach dream goal of 220lbs 34x34 pants, L shirts etc. >have no drive >trying to fast and lose 100lbs in two months >Fail every couple days and shoplift roatisery chickens, cookie dough and soda and eat in my room
I have lost 90lbs before in 2.5 months when I was playing football but Damn I wasted the last 4 years doing nothing and want to try to loose 100lbs in 3 months
If you don't take care of yourself, your body starts to fail and get horribly fat at 24, not even 30, for the average modern inactive male wrecked with estrogen.
If you take care of yourself, you will be solid deep into your 40s.
This is me at 32 after last summer cut. This summer will be leaner/bigger at 10% bf. I also fricked up by not being consistent/serious with lifting until I was 26-27 after 3 years of nothing before that
it's crazy how much young people ( girls and boys alike) value looks. young millenials were superficial too of course, but if you were charming or funny you could always get your foot in the door because people were still actually social. now it's looks looks looks. that's why zoomers are so ageist and mortified of getting old. they equate old age to being ugly and unwanted and unloveable.
they're also just malding over the new memes about how millennials are aging better than they are. that said, i don't have a problem with zoomers, i remember being the same way when i was in my 20s.
yes, we were. but things still felt more real. like you still had more of an opportunity to let your intangible positive qualities shine through. now if you don't meet the looks threshold you get filtered out immediatly
Its because looks is the only thing that defines them. Youth "culture" has failed to materialise and piggybacks off of what millennials built. Their gay influencers are all millennials, they never actually made any music, and their fashion is just a re-run of the late 90s early 2000s, ergo also belongs to Millennials.
Youth is the ONLY thing they have, and with the healthier sunless modern lifestyles emerging that keep millennials young looking into their 30s (the gay men who direct their culture), they have a tenuous grip on that too.
>Be me >pretty much went bald when I was 20 >now happy to at least be growing into my lack of hair
I feel like my smv hit rock bottom but is now higher as I age relative to my age group as im fitter than most people and having full hair frick boy aesthetic is less important.
having thick hair at an older age is an insane halo tho. it only becomes less important because nearly all men start to recede and/or lose the shine and thickness they had when young. most men become neurotic wrecks when the hair starts to go tho, so in that sense you do have a meaningful advantage
>most men become neurotic wrecks when the hair starts to go tho, so in that sense you do have a meaningful advantage
Im probably one of the lucky ones as ive been told that it suits me by many many people, but yeah. Ive had lots of guys older than me holding onto scraps ask me for advice or trying to get me to convince them to finally take the plunge.
Whenever I would do a new movement in the gym.. like wide grip pullups... or behind the neck pressing.. I would notice pain in my elbow or shoulder the next day that would last a couple weeks. Voodoo flossing really helped with that pain and inflamation.. Eventually my body adjusted though and the tendonitis went away. So it honestly depends.. novel stimulus seems to be more taxing on my joints... Also low back can't handle squats as well anymore. I injured my back in 2020 deadlifting.. but squats still felt okay so I kept doing them.. But now I deff get more strain in my low back when squatting ATG.
I miss when everyone encouraged others to make it instead of these dozens of shitty demoralization threads we get every day. This board is just a second /LULZ/
election year. glowBlack folk are trying to groom some idiot into doing something dumb that they can pin on "natzee maga alt right incel white supremacists"
Not sure what it is. Maybe it’s people trying to finish this place off. The scary part is autists actually believe this stuff.
Imo I think people tend be more sad because of economic and social reasons. Been here for like 15 years and it was a more positive place.
In my heart, I still think we are all gonna make it brahs
I remember when I was younger there was this story told to about this dude in my neighborhood who didn’t find a girlfriend until he was 50. He didn’t give a frick that he was a KHV and ended up finding a ginger cutie gf way younger than him.
Too much blackpilling these days. We love people the most for their rough edges. To be flawed is to be human. Aging is natural. Dying is a part of life. Mistakes happen. All gonna make it anyway brehs
I'm 32 and everythings pretty normal. Full hair, not fat, good social life. But on occasion I feel a small ache all around my knee while doing nothing and I hope its not a sign of something bad later on
The magical little numberino doesn't do any of that.
You did that to yourself.
Don't try to blame an abstract concept on you being a failure.
Living like a moron kills your "gains, knees, looks, and life", not the number.
Turning 37 soon. The last few years I was only lifiting for maintenance but I recently started a bulk on a strength routine again and I've put on size and surpassed all my best lifts from my twenties already. I had to deal with some injuries and joint pain but those aren't only things that happen with age, they are also a sign that what you're doing is not optimal and that you need to find a different approach that works for you. Hair is gone but I was already balding when I was 24, and sure, I'm probably less attractive without hair, but not having to worry about it does make life easier and dating hasn't become more difficult, although I'm probably approaching women in different places now.
Not true at all, I'm still pushing my lifts and my joints are fine, very easily solved by not being a fat frick. This post is only true if you refuse to look after your body during your 20s.
>somehow allowed myself to rot away all my 20s with no friends, kissless virginity, living with parents, pathetic job, not driving a car, basically everything bad you can have >turn 30 and fall into a pit of misery, despair, and hopelessness that most people can’t even fathom as a milestone that really cemented how pathetic I am >now 32 and still in the same position because literally the only emotions I feel are regret, shame, humiliation, misery, despair, worthlessness, hopelessness, and suicidal ideation and barely a minute passes by any day without me thinking at least one if not multiple of these emotions and how my life is completely irredeemable
Turning 30 was really great.
I'll be 30 in a few months. My left knee had been acting up and I noticed the forehead wrinkles when I do certain things. And getting grey hairs. It's so fricking over
Even until the 2000s most celebrities aimed at young people (Popstars, actors etc) were often in their mid 20s-late 30s. Nowadays, you’re deemed old and irrelevant if you’re over 21. Did social media do this?
t. woman
Imagine not using an arrow. Imagine that you end up claiming you're the woman
It's greater than sign frickwit
newbie Black person can't into greentext
Hello,
You seem knowledgeable, can you please explain to me what that other person meant by "t."?
Regards, Tyler
60 is the new 30 motherfricker
got ID'd at the liquor store.
t.born in '93
My dad is in his 70s and gets carded. It means absolutely nothing.
Alright b***hboum you're clearly lying.
Explaining life as a 30 year old boomer to a 20-year-old can be frustrating due to the vast differences in life experiences, perspectives, and developmental stages between. For the zoomer, the concept of aging and its implications often seem distant and abstract, compounded by a societal narrative that tends to glorify youth and view aging negatively. This perception gap is further widened by the optimism bias typical of younger adults, who may feel invulnerable and unable to fully relate to the nuanced understanding of aging expressed by those a decade older. Consequently, attempts to communicate the realities and sometimes the unexpected positives of getting older can be met with misunderstanding or dismissal, making such conversations challenging and at times disheartening for the person in their 30s trying to share their insights.
Lmao my grandfather got ID’d at his own funeral. His deathly pallor must have taken ages off of him
yea if your a fat frick
Idk I think I look better and am in much better shape than I was throughout most of my 20s.
Keep trying.
I’m 37 and I am more fit now than ever but that’s not to say my hair isn’t receding and I don’t have wrinkles around my eyes when I smile.
If you’re lucky you’ll get old it’s just a part of life. It is jarring when you see the first signs but the best thing to do is just accept it and put more effort into your health. I’m always taking mental notes on what to do and what not to do when I see old people. There are some things you can’t control but you can certainly hedge your bets with obvious behaviors.
More like the accumulated consequences of many shitty lifestyle decisions start to show.
both men and women descend. but men's collagen production the facial skin doesn't decrease as rapid. at the same time, most men get wrecked by balding. most of my friends are visibly receding or thinning, even on medication. and those that aren't lost that luscious thick hair they had in their youth. it all depends on your face shape tho. some men can rock a nw2 hairline others lose 3 points
I went to Japan at 30. Right around my birthday for 31 I'm going to Thailand. I got to keep my 4pl8 squat, though admittedly I'm working with 4pl8 diddly instead of 1RMing 5pl8 right now. I also have to admit I had to be more careful with neck pain. I still get to do BJJ and muay thai. I still go on dates. I have plenty of money. I'm feeling plenty happy. Might be a skill issue.
>dating in your 30s
>must be a skill issue
Sounds like you need to grow up because you’re behind the ball.
I guess you're right. I better go on dates then, huh?
No you should have a family by now.
But I don't, so I guess I should go on dates then, huh?
Hmmmm you may have checkmated me
What if he doesn't want kids? I don't. I'd be a lousy father. Just dogs and bunnies for me. Long time gf doesn't want them either so it's all gucci
You’re a genetic deadened with a Peter Pan complex and furbabies. Sad!
You're fricking asiatics that see you as a walking wallet. You're a prostitute.
If I'm the one paying then I'd be the John, not the prostitute.
>muh japan and Thailand
Why is everyone here a yellow fever loser homosexual
The trick to not getting upset by this is to do whatever you're holding off on doing now.
Just turned 30 few months ago and the cope was real as I expected. When you hit 30 you still feel like a ‘Chad’ because you think you are in a new decade and new things are coming, but my friends are turning 31 and 32 and they told me that honeymoon phase of 30 is over and now you are in your thirties for real.
Every years gets worse and no, you can unfrick the brutality of aging and your peak is over sooner than later. That’s why monk mode is so bad. People are willing to go 5 years ‘improving’ and gymcelling instead of just going try to get a gf while they are still young.
Staying lean gets twice as hard, gains are minimal and you can feel your test dropping if you frick up your sleep.
Now the girls part. Personally I think I was at my peak at 28. Right now I think my smv dropped like a mf. Girls look at me but I just know they have better options than me despite being an 6/10. In 2024 it will be worse.
I was here in 2020 posting my stories about how I used to pull my hoes. Now I turned into an incel. I’m dry since Oct 23.
I blame redpillers for fricking up a generation of men's prime years. they really think men get more desireable with age and age like fine wine. it's some weird gender war revanchism combined with the delusional idea that we live in a patriarchy where a man's assets are important in genuine sexual and romantic attraction. sure getting money will get you action, but it won't get you love, ever
now there genuinely are some men who are handsome and grow even more into their looks or don't descend as fast. but they're anomalies. the 1% of the 1% of handsome men. to act as if that's standard is delusional at best and malicious at worst
now things do get better as you age, in your OWN age category. but no average man in his 30s is banging smoking hot college girls without it being a sugar daddy thing
I genuinely can't let go of my hate. I think my hate is the only thing that even keeps me alive. Its just such impotent rage I feel pathetic. But if I didn't have the hate I feel like i'd have suck started the shotty ages ago. What am I supposed to do with that?
hate towards women or society in general? (masked) self-hate? the only thing you can do is acceptance. accept the world as it is, accept that all the romantic notions you had a teenager were naive, that the loneliness you feel is not your fault but it is and will always be a part of you
then you either become a hedonist and try to maximise your pleasure ( either self-destructive or not) or try to change the world by building something lasting and meaningful ( on a macro scale: political activism or on a micro scale: starting a family and try to create a pocket of sanity and beauty in this shitstain of a world)
Its definitely a societal hate, which women are simply the purest expression of so from the outside it looks derived from women but its more existential (i've had gfs and am a failed normie).
The easiest and dumbest way to sum it up is just how gay everything feels now. Everything post smartphone/social-media age is just so gay now. Everyone is a homosexual, our modern idols are homosexual media influencers, people look and act like homosexuals. I don't even mean that in a homophobic way (kill all gays anyway), but just how there is virtually nothing left in society that appeals to my personal tastes. Sure there are other societies out there but they all come with huge caveats, like being backward pisslam shitholes with corrupt governments that you could never fully integrate into and alway be an outsider and where you go from existential horror of the west to physical horror of a dagestani village for instance.
Yeah obviously self-hate comes into question since im not the 2nd coming of hitler who could take back my country at least for a short moment of respite until the rest of the world comes to erase it.
I agree with your last sentence but the thing is if you’ve played your cards right you aren’t trying to bang smoking hot college girls when you’re older because you have a good wife and family. Besides the inevitable midlife crisis pangs you shouldn’t be 40 and running around like a 20 year old.
But bro I am literally smashing a 21 year old college aged girl and 30 (turning 31 in a few months)
No larp or anything. Have my hair and take care of myself.
yes and you're a in a very small group of men just by that fact alone. my best mate is also 30 and banging an 18 y/o. he's tall and looks like a model tho. thoe cases are anomalous. doesn't mean shit for 98+% of guys. age doesn't improve your SMV like redpillers claim
The majority of men on fit who are in their 30s only frick hot 18-22 year old girls. Try again
ah you're trolling. clever
I’m the same guy.
The quality of women I dated actually went up. When I was teens and early 20s I was getting like 4s and 5s. Now I get like 6s-8s pretty much. I have been working out the whole time for the most part.
The thing which made a big difference for me honestly was just having better pictures for the dating apps. However it’s worth noting in romance novels like Twilight the vampire guy is old and powerful but looks youthful. Some people might say it comes down to money but sometimes there’s something else going on. The girl I’m seeing says she loves feeling desired like a trophy for an older guy.
I guess what I’m really trying to get at it is it’s not so cut and dry. 98% is a made up number. We only know what we are capable of when we have done all we can and tried until we are old and gray really.
your case is an exception. that's proven by statistics and a lot of life experience on my part. I'm genuinely happy for you, but don't try to portray that as the normal experience as an aging man. that's fricked up. I've known many men who've triend and tried and ended up nowhere
I would meet you in the middle and say I’m optimistic and you might be more pessimistic. I am thankful things turned out the way they did for me. I have been truly blessed in this world and would wish the same for every other ISTizen.
Life used to be so horrible for me. I wanted to kill myself at many points and had no job or anything remarkable for so many years.
> The girl I’m seeing says she loves feeling desired like a trophy for an older guy.
And yet you take this type of sad behavior as a point of pride lol
I think the redpiller argument is that men's value increases as their net worth increases, and, on average, age is the best way to track that. Now that's not the case for me, I went through a divorce and lost everything and am rebuilding, but technically I was more stable 5 years ago. Anyways when I went out dating I did date and bone younger chicks, chicks that lived in shit hole apartments and couldn't afford to pay their rent half the time. If I wasnt living with my parents but had my own place I'd imagine I could get the much better looking girls out of that crowd and be rotating them nightly, letting them come home to a fine clean place with my nice Volvo in the driveway. Imagine what that would be like to those kinds of girls.
I dated a poor girl before and even helped her pay her rent. She wasn’t grateful and ended up treating me like shit.
I don’t think money makes much of a difference in the sense of a girl loving a guy.
money has 0 bearing on how attractive a woman finds you in raw sexual sense. on the contrary she might actually look down on you if you provide for her despite her feeling no attraction towards you. the inner shame she feels about being a prositute gets projected on you. if you already meet the looks threshold then yes money is a plus obviously
If you're too ugly for love anyway, what are your options? Money is really it. It's just pragmatism.
>That’s why monk mode is so bad
true
32 reporting in and it's 100% like this. the upside is that if you can get your shit together with resources and maturity you can pull girls that are looking for older dudes. its not the same as being in 20's at all but then again Gen Z males are halfway to being troons anyway. stay optimistic brah.
Post body lardass
If you're fricked at 30 socially and physically, you were fricked at 25 the same way. If you were successful at 25, and a failure at 30, that's some level of frick up on you. You use age as a cope for being a failure your whole life
you didn't understand a single thing I said. of course if you take care of yourself you will age better as someone who doesn't ( also depending on your genetics of course) but the idea that you should go monk mode in your prime years just so you can slay in your 30s is idiotic, because it builds on the the typical redpill delusion that a man's SMV rises with age. don't waste your prime years. the quality of women available to you post 30 is horrible
It's not something you should stress about. Just take care of yourself and continue learning new things.
Literally no one recommends doing that beyond the turbo morons here. Given you post asiatic cartoons, you out yourself as one of those social rejects.
Assuming you don't find a girl in HS or college, the girls "available" to you are basically the same at 26 or 31. Cope more
I'm not him you Black person. and it's recommened everywhere in the manosphere.
>the girls "available" to you are basically the same at 26 or 31
depends on how you age, but for most men hell nah. smells like oldcel cope to me
I think the biggest thing, even if you age slowly is that you will automatically get filtered on online dating probably which has been my prime hunting ground.
Im 29 now and in a relationship so i wouldnt know but its kinda blackpilling to think I wouldnt have as easy a time if i ever had to go back on.
that's a great point actually. I imagine if you actually look young you could cheat that tho
>I imagine if you actually look young you could cheat that tho
only works if you want a quick pump and dump. I dont like lying about anything so wouldnt be an option for me.
in my experience girls only care about your percieved age. an 18 y/o girl would much much rather frick a 30 y/o man who's tall, handsome and still looks 25 than some 18 y/o ugly dweeb. genuine attractive men are such a rare commodity that age won't devalue you really ( unless you start to visibly age and get ugly). but such men are very rare. like less than 1%
Yeah I agree. High value masculine men are in such short supply that you can definitely still swing getting girls younger, but the biggest issue I would see is like I said being immediately filtered on online dating. Ive heard a lot of women put the filter to 30 or a couple years older than them.
true. you would either have to run irl/social game or cheat. I think if you're really that handsome that she's willing to frick you girls won't be THAT furious you tricked them
Im just gonna stay in my LTR as shes a good girl and mother material and stop worrying about this shit. Fricking around and being a man prostitute is a young mans game.
that's the right mentality to be fair. I mean I understand the appeal of being in your 30s and banging young women as much as the next guy but the joys of having a stable relationship and a potential family seems much more healthy
What a crybaby
I'm 34 and have barely thought about or noticed it
We all die time is running out your parents die before you to live on.
Anon just start a family and make yourself immortal it doesn’t matter when you are born or die, the only thing that matters is now
>Lives like dogshit in your 20s
>turn thirty and feel like dogshit
Wow seems complicated
the older I get the more dystopic this society becomes
me
>23 y/o
>6'3 305lbs 19%bf college football player
>37 inch waist
no
>30
>430lbs
>havent worked out since 2020
>depressed all day andeat 5k calories everyday
>live with parents
>buying clothing to reach dream goal of 220lbs 34x34 pants, L shirts etc.
>have no drive
>trying to fast and lose 100lbs in two months
>Fail every couple days and shoplift roatisery chickens, cookie dough and soda and eat in my room
I have lost 90lbs before in 2.5 months when I was playing football but Damn I wasted the last 4 years doing nothing and want to try to loose 100lbs in 3 months
don't give up anon. take our energy and kill your demons with it
do strongman
I did for a bit when I was a doorman, the only thing that gives me motivation is wearing my dream clothes
you made poor decisions problem
If you don't take care of yourself, your body starts to fail and get horribly fat at 24, not even 30, for the average modern inactive male wrecked with estrogen.
If you take care of yourself, you will be solid deep into your 40s.
This is me at 32 after last summer cut. This summer will be leaner/bigger at 10% bf. I also fricked up by not being consistent/serious with lifting until I was 26-27 after 3 years of nothing before that
Mirin'
Proud of you anon
it's crazy how much young people ( girls and boys alike) value looks. young millenials were superficial too of course, but if you were charming or funny you could always get your foot in the door because people were still actually social. now it's looks looks looks. that's why zoomers are so ageist and mortified of getting old. they equate old age to being ugly and unwanted and unloveable.
ugly and old people are evil and uvloveable
t.Ugly oldcel
they're also just malding over the new memes about how millennials are aging better than they are. that said, i don't have a problem with zoomers, i remember being the same way when i was in my 20s.
yes, we were. but things still felt more real. like you still had more of an opportunity to let your intangible positive qualities shine through. now if you don't meet the looks threshold you get filtered out immediatly
Its because looks is the only thing that defines them. Youth "culture" has failed to materialise and piggybacks off of what millennials built. Their gay influencers are all millennials, they never actually made any music, and their fashion is just a re-run of the late 90s early 2000s, ergo also belongs to Millennials.
Youth is the ONLY thing they have, and with the healthier sunless modern lifestyles emerging that keep millennials young looking into their 30s (the gay men who direct their culture), they have a tenuous grip on that too.
>Be me
>pretty much went bald when I was 20
>now happy to at least be growing into my lack of hair
I feel like my smv hit rock bottom but is now higher as I age relative to my age group as im fitter than most people and having full hair frick boy aesthetic is less important.
having thick hair at an older age is an insane halo tho. it only becomes less important because nearly all men start to recede and/or lose the shine and thickness they had when young. most men become neurotic wrecks when the hair starts to go tho, so in that sense you do have a meaningful advantage
>most men become neurotic wrecks when the hair starts to go tho, so in that sense you do have a meaningful advantage
Im probably one of the lucky ones as ive been told that it suits me by many many people, but yeah. Ive had lots of guys older than me holding onto scraps ask me for advice or trying to get me to convince them to finally take the plunge.
because you have a normal shaped skull. some people look weird with a shaved head. good body too
Honestly, it was more like 34 for me when I started getting shitty tendonitis.
What did it feel like when it started?
Whenever I would do a new movement in the gym.. like wide grip pullups... or behind the neck pressing.. I would notice pain in my elbow or shoulder the next day that would last a couple weeks. Voodoo flossing really helped with that pain and inflamation.. Eventually my body adjusted though and the tendonitis went away. So it honestly depends.. novel stimulus seems to be more taxing on my joints... Also low back can't handle squats as well anymore. I injured my back in 2020 deadlifting.. but squats still felt okay so I kept doing them.. But now I deff get more strain in my low back when squatting ATG.
Ive had all sorts of tendonitis and shit since i was like 21 from working in the trades jokes on me
i have been spending my youth just browsing youtube and IST. it's fricking over
I thought this until I saw my pics in my 20s.
I was still a child, 20s is when body hair and gains start coming up.
I miss when everyone encouraged others to make it instead of these dozens of shitty demoralization threads we get every day. This board is just a second /LULZ/
Not sure what it is. Maybe it’s people trying to finish this place off. The scary part is autists actually believe this stuff.
election year. glowBlack folk are trying to groom some idiot into doing something dumb that they can pin on "natzee maga alt right incel white supremacists"
Imo I think people tend be more sad because of economic and social reasons. Been here for like 15 years and it was a more positive place.
In my heart, I still think we are all gonna make it brahs
I remember when I was younger there was this story told to about this dude in my neighborhood who didn’t find a girlfriend until he was 50. He didn’t give a frick that he was a KHV and ended up finding a ginger cutie gf way younger than him.
Too much blackpilling these days. We love people the most for their rough edges. To be flawed is to be human. Aging is natural. Dying is a part of life. Mistakes happen. All gonna make it anyway brehs
I'm 35 and am the strongest with the best looking physique I have ever had in my life
I'm 32 and everythings pretty normal. Full hair, not fat, good social life. But on occasion I feel a small ache all around my knee while doing nothing and I hope its not a sign of something bad later on
I'm 38.
Harsh reality? I gave up drinking, eating sugar, greasy food, gluten, dairy and need proper 8 hour sleep.
In exchange: no joint pains, I feel like great, light and can workout like I was 25.
I just become adult.
did you have joint pains before but those changes did away with it?
yes, I have "os acromiale" so I had a lot of shoulder pain.
me in the back
fwiw I'm 31 don't do drugs/drink (vaped weed a lot in mid 20s) and I feel fantastic. No pains. No grey hair, hair not thinning.
I'm 34 and have done drugs every day for the last 10 years and look like I've been preserved in amber since then
I have this exact card on my windowsill
>from last year
And I feel better than ever
The magical little numberino doesn't do any of that.
You did that to yourself.
Don't try to blame an abstract concept on you being a failure.
Living like a moron kills your "gains, knees, looks, and life", not the number.
Turning 30 next month, I'm a lot stronger than I was in my early 20s and don't feel physically limited in anyway.
if youre a woman
>*ruins your life*
37 years old.
Turning 37 soon. The last few years I was only lifiting for maintenance but I recently started a bulk on a strength routine again and I've put on size and surpassed all my best lifts from my twenties already. I had to deal with some injuries and joint pain but those aren't only things that happen with age, they are also a sign that what you're doing is not optimal and that you need to find a different approach that works for you. Hair is gone but I was already balding when I was 24, and sure, I'm probably less attractive without hair, but not having to worry about it does make life easier and dating hasn't become more difficult, although I'm probably approaching women in different places now.
Not true at all, I'm still pushing my lifts and my joints are fine, very easily solved by not being a fat frick. This post is only true if you refuse to look after your body during your 20s.
>tfw 29yrs, 1 month, 1 week, 5 days, and 11 hours hold
>no wife
>no kids
>not homeowner
I don’t have long bros
>somehow allowed myself to rot away all my 20s with no friends, kissless virginity, living with parents, pathetic job, not driving a car, basically everything bad you can have
>turn 30 and fall into a pit of misery, despair, and hopelessness that most people can’t even fathom as a milestone that really cemented how pathetic I am
>now 32 and still in the same position because literally the only emotions I feel are regret, shame, humiliation, misery, despair, worthlessness, hopelessness, and suicidal ideation and barely a minute passes by any day without me thinking at least one if not multiple of these emotions and how my life is completely irredeemable
Turning 30 was really great.
I'm 26 now. I don't fear turning 30 but I also am not really looking forward to it either. Basically taking it one day at a time
I'll be 30 in a few months. My left knee had been acting up and I noticed the forehead wrinkles when I do certain things. And getting grey hairs. It's so fricking over
I don't have wrinkles but I can tell that I'm already starting to develop a saggy old man face. It's over.
Even until the 2000s most celebrities aimed at young people (Popstars, actors etc) were often in their mid 20s-late 30s. Nowadays, you’re deemed old and irrelevant if you’re over 21. Did social media do this?
Seems new to me too. Thinking life is over when you’re quarter into life isn’t healthy imo.
At least you're still living.
Nah, best shape of my life so far, most disposable income I've ever had, and getting hit on by chicks in their 20s to 40s all the time.
In sitcoms in the 90s they had a "loser" character like this in every show. I've turned into Uncle Jessie and it hurts so good
You should be aware that your situation becomes sad extraordinarily fast if you hit 40 and you have no prospects for a decent wife and family.
>turning 28 next month
Let's go, felted etc.