>*kills your gains*
>*ruins your body*
>*destroys your brain*
>*ages you prematurely*
>*gives you a weird puffy face*
>*increases your risk of health issues*
>*prevents you from developing real self-confidence*
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I fricking love booze.
Everything you’ve said there is false. None of that is going to happen unless you’re consuming a whole bottle of liquor or a whole dozen box of beers per night.
I treat myself and enjoy alcohol every Friday evening and have no bad side effects. Moderation is fine, you weed smoking Black person.
Moderation isn’t fine. You should be an extremist in all things.
(You)
Yes.
Holy fricking based
I'm extremely moderate
IST: the post
I'm moderate to the extreme
absolutely based
thank you good sir
That chin and nose. Sorry I don’t listen to people who look like that
best post.
This could be a banner for literally any board on this website.
> muh weed bad
Frick off Karen, we get weed triggers your feeble brain
>le epic weed shill upset someone mentioned his drug addiction
You people are the most delusional bozos of them all. Take your “harmless” drug and frick off. There’s a reason why weed is still prohibited in most places while alcohol is perfectly legal.
Weed is only prohibited to throw black people in jail for free prison labor you stupid chudgay
Nice conspiracy theory, stoner.
Sounds like a dumb Trumpgay. Opinion discarded
>Trumpgay
I’m not even American lmao
Then you wouldn’t know shit about American drug laws you chudgay . Your pov is dog shit
I know enough about American laws and conspiracy theories because you burgers shit your nonsense all over the internet more than anyone else
Because IST traffic is like 60% US, Eurorangutan
>says chud unironically
You know it's a compliment right? It's a portmanteau of Chad and stud
War on drugs is a meme but that's not the reason, Black folk would be filling up jails even if weed was perfectly legal. Weed was considered dangerous at one point, and cracking down on drugs was popular for 99% of America so if you're the government you just see an easy power grab. In the future they'll probably weaponize drugs being decriminalized against us, like those homeless in SF
Nope nothing you said was true. Literally was started to throw anti Vietnam war hippies and black people in jail in a country where we have for profit prisons so there is an incentive to having high incarceration rates
maybe it has something to do with the fact that you smell like SHIT
like an actual fricking SKUNK
if someone in my apartment smokes weed I can tell how expensive it is from if the ENTIRE BUILDING smells like PISS or SHIT COVERED IN PISS
Lmao I’m so glad my weed smoke triggers autists like you. I’m going to keep it real and keep blazing it
Drunk people smell like shit, what the frick are you talking about?
Massive lobbying from corporate interest?
This. All policies and politics in America is dictated by our corporate overlords
>it's legal so it's must be le good
>this is your "brain" on booze
Ending the prohibition was a mistake
I drink when I'm with friends, I smoke/take edibles on when I'm alone at night. They serve different purposes.
>the weed smoker thinks his brain isn't feeble.
>Moderation is fine
This is advice doctors and israelites give to NPCs so they don't get upset when you tell them any amount of alcohol is bad for you
Which is true, if you're going to optimize your health as best you can you would never touch alcohol
Be honest with yourself next time and say you don't care about the negative side effects, b***h
am i allowed to still enjoy my cigarrs?
in moderation
Optimize is such an autistic notion. Living is not optimal. I bench 325 reverse grip at 38 years old and I run 13:30 two mile which is the old apft max. You shouldn’t focus so much on optimal and efficiency and shit. The best athletes on this the planet drink and eat shitty from time to time, they live balanced lives. Only little dweebs with shitty genetics say things like “this or that isn’t optimal”
exygen also kills tou Black person stop breathing. yeah alchohol is bad so are drugs and smoke in your lungs but boy they are all fun and you dont have to OD on anything fricking moronic incel.
>exygen also kills tou Black person stop breathing.
the fact you default to sophistry this moronic plus name-calling when your heckin fun beverage is under attack says everything we need to know you booze bag
genetics also plays a role in it too. everyone is going to have a different experience.
Nobody mentioned weed you alcoholic homosexual
>Moderation is fine
this isn't true, there's studies that have debunked the "moderation" position already
There are also peer-reviewed studies from Harvard, Princeton, and Yale that say you're a fricking homosexual.
Here’s the thing: This board primarily attracts asocial autistic types, so it’s either complete robot-like abstinence or total gluttony.
>debunked
Debunk my dick homosexual. If you want to live a shitty life of eating the bare essentials and literally only leaving your basement to throw around pieces of metal, that's on you. I'm going to drink beer and smoke weed and lift weights while I do it. Then I'll go frick your dad and make your mom watch.
Depends on how much you drink. If you drink 2-3 beers once a week the damage will be minimal (but there will still be damage) but if you get completely shitfaced every firday that's just as bad as having two glasses of wine 5 times a week
post nose Shlomo
>t. Drunkard
Yes. Everyone disagreeing with this is a pot smoking filthy degenerate who probably gets no pussy and probably also cant even bench 2 pl8 and also probably drives to the gym.
I agree with him and I do all of those things.
Oh okay so you're saying only drink SOME poison, but not too much... Yeah that sounds healthy.
things DYEL subhuman homosexuals say
DYEL? Try again, bozo.
>subhuman mutt
>DYEL cancerous subhuman
same difference
Wait.. I know who this is. I think it is time to stop browsing this board. Feeling spooked.
Is that stavros halkias of the renowned "cum town" podcast
It's humanity's oldest and most trusted life cope
Beer is also the worst of all alcoholic options. I think even straight whiskey is better for you.
beer is literally liquid bread. disgusting. full of carbs and shit.
have a brandy with diet coke or something if you have to drink
I know alcohol is literal poison, but drinking is what keeps my social life together and lets me meet girls. I have to choose between two bad options
Here's scientifically what it does to your body. Actually a really interesting video too
That is really cool.
Alcohol is fermented carbohydrates and grains both of which are healthy, as long as your consume alcohol within your tdee then there is no issue.
It's true. Alcohol is shit, is mentally addictive , and it just causes problems in everyone's life who consumes it. You would be surprised of how many dudes need it to meet girls. Its literal poison, that makes you goofy for a few hours. It's a waste of money , and you certainly won't meet anyone of value when out drinking. Successful people who drink already got successful desperate to boos. Anyone who drinks to get drunk is coping In some way. Look at all these dudes defending it. Not saying I dislike everyone who drinks, but it's most certainly a cope.
This seems like a very underage post. You know beer is fun and taste good to drink and pair it with meals. Some of us consume responsibly
Beer is not fun, does not taste good, does not pair well with meals, and it is not healthy in the slightest. Beer especially is mostly enjoyed by fat morons
You have to be +18 to post here lads
Children often like to mimic adults to the point of parody, like pretending to like beer or smoking cigarettes, to give the illusion of maturity. Actual grown-ups realise that choosing not to drink poison does not magically alter your age. Go back to junior high, where your shenanigans might pass for cutesy adolescent insecurity.
>t. Never gets invited to parties
Yes. Your point? I don't drink and i am unpopular, therefore alcohol is healthy? I don't follow. Please clarify.
I’m pointing out how much of a sperg/autist you are being about enjoying and consuming alcohol. Your opinion is fine but no one cares to hear it if you are going to act like a Karen on an activity that plenty of responsible healthy adults enjoy
If you agree that alcohol is bad for you, and that your "acquired taste" is just you acquiring an addiction to it, would you not agree that "responsible and healthy" adults who partake in drinking are made less such by the activity? Would it not be more "responsible and healthy" of them NOT to drink, ever?
What clear, intrinsic benefits does drinking alcohol give you over not drinking it?
>tastes good
refer to the above
>parties/makes you more sociable
only if you are unsociable without alcohol, in which case it makes you more reliant on a crutch
>healthy
lol
There is no good reason to drink alcohol. You cannot call yourself "perfectly responsible and healthy" if you are less healthy than you could be. Drinking alcohol is purely detrimental. Me being an uptight prick about it doesn't change this fact.
It will enhance to food you are eating if you know how to pair wine/beer to meals
Beer tastes good without being addicted to it. Humans have actually evolved to consume alcohol. We have literally developed enzymes to break it down and get energy from fermented grains and fruit. Drinking to excess is objectively unhealthy, but enjoying a few drinks every once in a while will have zero impact on your overall health.
Children often like to mimic adults to the point of parody, like pretending to like eating broccoli or finishing your whole plate, to give the illusion of maturity. Actual grown-ups realize* that choosing not to eat disgusting veggies does not magically alter your age. Go back to junior high, where your shenanigans might pass for cutesy adolescent insecurity
Fat morons drink beer, even weed is better than alcohol
I’ll sit and enjoy an ipa and a J while you have you dumb opinion . I’m living my best life
>weed is better than alcohol
It’s not better in any way. This is a massive cope potheads use to justify their disgusting drug addiction.
Fricking either you’re an underage zoomer, or you don’t know how to consume alcohol beneficially. You have shit taste, and a whole lot of moronic assumptions.
>does not taste good
>saying alcohol tastes good is fricking ridiculous
I would drink beer and mixed drinks even if they didn't get me drunk. I actually wish that was the case so then I could drink that stuff at work. Alcohol is one of the best flavors on earth.
i'm not that guy, but saying alcohol tastes good is fricking ridiculous. Alcohol tastes like, well... rubbing alcohol. Especially beer. I can't fathom how someone can look at beer, smell beer, taste beer - and not think that it is basicaly chilled piss. Strong spirits? Jagermeister? My throat is fricking sore from 1-2 shots. (Inb4 "heh, pussy, your soft tissue hasn't built up a resistance to poison!! glug glug"). Alcohol is revolting and i thoroughly think that everyone who drinks it recreationally is just an addict to the extent that they will say "b-but it's tasty!!" the same way a smoker will say his cigs "taste" good. Drink your barely-masked ethanol all you like, but don't pretend it's not detrimental to your health or that it tastes good (kek at muh acquired taste - read: addiction), i am not stupid.
Dude you're actually coping , it's you who is. Look at all your shitty excuses and anecdotes to why literal poison is good, you're acting like an ignoramus and calling others stupid. Beer is always a bad decision, not catastrophic obviously but the objective fact is that youre healthier with 0 beer. It has no net benefits on your life in the long run, stop coping dude you're denying reality
Me: goes to bar and has some laughs with the guys, gets a cute girl to give me her number, we all get another round and my squad of aryan hypebeast bros go "HIP HIP HOORAY FOR ANON!" and toast all of our pints together. My dad also shows up there at some point because its a small town and we all go to the same bars. He introduces me to one of his business partners who already likes me because I'm drinking Guinness. Boom, future job in the fricking bag if I ever need another one.
You: uses the word "ignoramus" in earnest
Who sounds healthier?
Rekt
My dad works at Nintendo
Good point. I've never heard anyone who isn't a virgin use ignoramus in a sentence. Being a virgin is unironically the most unhealthy thing you can be.
>has wine with his dinner
>Maybe drinks a whisky at a lounge or has a beer on a warm Sunday afternoon with friends
"AAAAAAAAAA he's coping and seething and destroying his body!"
Jesus fricking Christ people, just learn moderation.
This post hits the nail on the head, these are some truths that are difficult to face for drinkers such as myself. Most of these points apply to marijuana as well, which I also smoke. I've convinced myself that I like to change my mental state for short periods of time when I'm really just addicted to both substances. I've cut down on using both in recent months with only positive effects and I'm considering giving them up for good. One of my problems on the booze side is that I enjoy homebrewing, but sometimes we need to make sacrifices to grow.
Go be a homosexual somewhere else
>not enjoying the ancient hobby of brewing ones own beer
>buy bakers yeast, sugar, cheapest fruit juice
>mix, let sit for 2 weeks
>drink most disgusting booze in your life that ggave me a massive methanol headache
good times
you forgot
>shrinks your donger
Everyone defending in here is an NPC. Listen to the Andrew Huberman podcast from a few months back on alcohol. He basically concludes its poison without saying it so the israelites won't come at him.
>doesnt drink alcohol
>but drinks tap water, cooks in a non stick pan, touches receipts, consumes onions products, is near a pregnant women or has seen a women cry, lives near a major road, eats pesticide covered veges and fruit, eats factory farmed meat with antibiotics, sits down all day at work, takes any kind of anti depressant, consumes sneed oils
Not to mention all the spergs complaining about alcohol use have micro plastics in their body
Somehow i don't do any of this shit lol. I even drink well water, not tap water. Am i gonna make it now?
>touches receipts
>is near a pregnant women or has seen a women cry
Alright I'll bite, what's wrong with these?
Dunno about pregnant women but smelling a babies head will temporarily decrease testosterone levels. Guessing the crying pregnant woman thing probably does something similar
Receipts are covered in gay germs
BPA level in receipt paper so high it will enter your blood from touching it
>finally reached that stage where alcohol makes me extremely paranoid and it feels like I'm going to have a heart attack the next day
It was fun while it lasted, drink bros
I fricking hated beer and cigarettes when I tried them as a 9 year old. Its one thing if you don't like drinking but if you think beer tastes bad I think "wow, this guy has the sensibilities of me when I was nine". In my head I check you off as a mental third grader. What do you eat for dinner dude, dino nuggies and macaroni? What do you do after work, watch spongebob?
Meanwhile Chad throws back 12 packs at a party every weekend and still looks good. Why even argue about this shit
inb4 sober virgins take your post extremely personally and seethe despite your post being truth
speaking of mental third graders
Absolute facts my man. Non drinking children will never know the appreciation of a good drink.
>9 year old
>third grader
Lmao this homie got held back a grade.
The rest of his post gave it away as well
I'm 25 days alcohol free and i am much more alert, my energy levels are higher, and my skin looks much healthier. That being said, all I want to do right now is go to the store and grab a 6 pack.
Based. Potheads will never learn. Too busy frying their brains with le dank weed mannnnn.
Chudcope. My weed addiction doesn’t make me fat or look unhealthy like alcoholics
I drink one night a week, socially. My diet is in check, I lift, and I’m not fat. Some of us have self control, unlike pot smokers who can’t go a day without getting high.
Once again, I’m not even American.
Jokes on you , my bf% is at 12 weighing 225 and crushing all my goals while smoking pot on daily. Keep coping though , I’m going to outlive the alcoholics
>he thinks smoking pot is harmless
Oh, how delusional. I bet you tell everyone about how it cures cancer as well?
Pot is no more harmful than taking ibuprofen. I honestly smoke pot because it keeps the Karens like you away
>it keeps the Karens like you away
Yeah because you stink of weed, your eyes are red and you look like a zombie, you're probably drooling too. Nobody enjoys hearing the mad ramblings of a stoner either.
Alcohol isn't even that bad for you anyway, I would argue pot is worse for the average person.
You keep saying pot is worse without any empirical evidence so your opinion has been discarded . Touch pavement incel
Says the one who also hasn't provided any empirical evidence that alcohol is bad. But with that being said, don't even bother trying, I'm not clicking on any dodgy links taking me to some pseudoscientific website made by pro-weed hippies.
Stay lazy, smelly, and braindead.
5/10
It was fun while it lasted , I tip my fedora at you
Everything you just rambled about applies directly to a drunk
do you take ibuprofen for fun?
>my bf% is at 12 weighing 225 and crushing all my goals
Hot, post pics pls
are these "pot smokers" in the same room with you right now?
Must live in a dumpy red state lol
Thanks for reminding me I'll pour me a whisky
Alocohl in social settings - whatever. Sad thing is most people need it as a crutch, or cope because they live bleak uninteresting lives. If you feel good about yourself physically, mentally, spritually, etc. then you dont seek mind altering substances. Simple as
Even worse with Millennials, my generation, is everything is alcohol now. Picnic? Gotta bring booze. Going to zoo to see som animals? Nope its not brew at the zoo with beer. Ball game? Need to pay $12 for a single beer that wont give you a buzz. Peak NPC behavior
Imagine watching the decline sober lol
>i need drinky because voldermort and darth vader are in charge!!
redditor morons
>If you feel good about yourself physically, mentally, spritually, etc. then you dont seek mind altering substances.
I'll hand you my liquor when I no longer live in a godless antisocial dystopian corporatocracy.
This. Call me when we live in a robust social democratic society and the fascism dragon has been slayed
Go outside more, move somewhere rural or at very least suburban. Get involved with your local community. Shop at farmer markets. Bike to work, stores, or just to get away. Fish, camp, lift weights.
You will come to love this earth brother
It’s funny tho democrat socialist countries (Scandinavia) consume a frickton of booze, which to me makes them all the more attractive
>The country of Scandinavia
the countries that consume the most alcohol are easter european countries and portugal
reality is for people that can't handle drugs
It's my only real gains goblin. But you gotta die of something. It's good to unwind, have something to relax, have fun, peace out. It can't be productivity every single minute of your life, that's a terrible life.
I wish it was something less destructive than alcohol, but nothing quite does the trick unfortunately.
>nothing quite does the trick unfortunately.
I've heard shrooms are stellar, but I wouldn't know how to get them unfortunately.
Bro, I do psychedelics a couple of times each year. It's a completely different experience.
If I did them with the frequency I drink I'd probably develop schizophrenia. Hippies will tell you psychedelics aren't harmful but I'm all against using them without moderation. It's way too intense, it might not frick your body up but it will turn you into a deranged dumbass if you abuse them.
Well I'm jealous. I've wanted to go on a Native American styled spiritual journey for decades but it looks like I'll never get to.
Shrooms really won’t mess you up that bad. I’ve taken a metric shit ton in my life and I’m still well adjusted and functional
I have a friend who absolutely fricked his shit up with mescaline. And I'd say it's milder than shrooms, but he took it pretty much every day.
I also know a girl who permaflipped her shit with shrooms, and another one with lsd, but they're woman so idk. Probably built difference.
As for me, it take a couple of days to assimilate a psychedelic experience, and a month to fully digest it. Wouldn't take them more often than that.
Alcohol I can just get drunk, feel like shit the next day, then be back to normal right away and get shitfaced three days later if I must. Or just drink a couple of beers with a friend, family or girl without it affecting me at all past the 1000 calories I unfortunately ingested. And it makes me feel so good so fast, it's definitely worth it at least now and then.
Yeah, but I like it.
sleep tight steeler
I've been this, this life style should be mandatory for a period
look at the deep introspection he is in
fun tho
>still drinks it anyways cus it makes me feel good
Had a couple pints of Guinness tonight. It was maximum comfy. First time drinking in about a month and a half.
14 months no booze here
I'm drunk right now
>iktf
Best public service campaign against drinking and doing drugs would be showing random profiles of 30+ yo people on tinder. People are mental and look rough as frick. Anytime I get demotivated about fitness I remind myself I don’t wanna be like them.
thread full of alcoholics who are not going to make it
Hey I agmi. Only 2.5 units so far today. If I keep this progression, I will be drinking -234.5 units by the end of the month.
Fricking love pounding brews after smashing PR's. How is booze gonna kill your gains just lift harder lmao.
>tastes good and helps you have a good time
facts:
-alcoholics are degenerate pathetic lost souls
-drinking isn't an issue if you do it in moderation.
-being a teetotalling homosexual is cringe as frick.
I miss beer.
Will 0.0% beer have the same effect?
What effect?
bloatness and the effect to your liver
Well for bloatiness it depends on how much you drink. For the liver it's ultimately better, because no ethanol, but or course if you chug 6-8 X 140kcal every night of non alcoholic beer it's still not optimal.
thanks good to know.
I'll buy a couple of 0% beer when I am done with my cut.
i gave up drinking a few months ago and while i'm healthier and my life is objectively better i'm now bored as frick
You'd be bored as frick drinking too except some liquid is gonna make you ignore that. You're better off.
i had a lot more fun as an alky, certainly my social life was better, but OP's right it was no good for me
Same. I want to go see local live music tonight, but I'll just be sleepy, surrounded by mobs of drunks. Probably just stay in. Shame is I love live music
>I love live music
live music sucks balls. local band gets up on stage, "hey guys we're the ''hometown stomp troubodours''' and we're here to have some fun and jam out!"
band plays like 3 covers with unintelligble lyrics due a garbage PA. starts going into the originals which sound worse than the covers, but now the music is unrecognizable.
by this point the drummer is drunk and trying to sleep with someone, nobody is listening, and everyone is just drinking to ignore the fact that the hometown stomp gaygadors are complete dogshit linguini trash from Communist siberia, yet everyone is still expected to say nice shit about the band
never seeing dogshit local live music again
I need to stop drinking alcohol forever
It makes me emotional and also extremely violent
I took it to deal with living with a bpd gf
Then I took it to try to cope with the break up
It only made things worse and it was a mistake ever taking it
It made me very uncontrollably violent
Smashing up my house getting fired from my job for not showing up
Almost beating my own mother in a violent rage
Everything was bad but it didn’t help it made things worse
I slowly started to become a alcoholic
I need to stop forever
Hate to break it to you, but alcohol was only bringing your uncontrollable violence out. No amount of alcohol makes you want to beat people up. I'd recommend a martial art to control your urges and get your test up. If all fails become a zogbot where they want people like you.
>*helps you get girls*
i'm trying to learn how to do coffee-only
>>*kills your gains*
no proof
>>*ruins your body*
that sounds like a ((you)) problem
>>*destroys your brain*
enhances it, actually
>>*ages you prematurely*
not as much as your goyslop and toxic vegetable diet
>>*gives you a weird puffy face*
probably mostly has to do with your shitty genetics
>>*increases your risk of health issues*
not as much as being a fatass like ((you)). Obesity is the number one risk factor for all types of cancer and other diseases,
moreso than even smoking.
>>*prevents you from developing real self-confidence*
heh, YOU'RE the incell here
GALO SENGEN
I did PR on deadlift after binge drinking til i passed out the day before, alcohol carbs are underrated
>gets you laid
Ya i recently decided to quit drinking. Also quit smoking weed which was my biggest vice. Almost one month in and my skin and hair look far nicer and mood is better and more clear minded. Honestly only losers or already rich people drink often. If you are not already rich you are probably a loser and will not get jacked either
May drink on rare occasion for my gf to pull threesomes but thats it
I don’t drink beer because it tastes yucky
I drink 1-2 oz of mezcal straight almost every night and have seen no negative side effects. No hang over. No bad sleep. No lower test. It’s perfectly fine if you know how to do it.
Literally just don't drink during week days and avoid get College tier shitfaced every weekend.
Ageing and shit is 90% genetics, drinking beer on a Saturday night out is not going to be the determining factor in your life.
That being said, of course it's better to drink less in general.
>be me be german
>basically forced to drink this piss during school (because am not gonna be that one weird kid that does not drink)
>during university find friends who can have fun without needing to drown ourselves in booze
>never drank again. never looked back
alcohol is the fricking worst
literally no advantages other than not being a social outcast
get fricked junkies
I'm a fricking bartender and I think people have given too much value to alcohol, and it's gonna get worse.
Good news ? Drinks.
Bad news ? Drinks.
Week-end ? Drinks.
Holidays ? Drinks.
Party ? Drinks.
Work event ? Drinks.
People drink to forget their issues instead of facing them.
Which is fine if your issues are small : you don't need to drink a lot for the ethanol to make you ignore them.
The bigger the issues, the more alcohol people drink.
The issue can even just be their alcoholism.
Nothing wrong with a nice glass of wine, a well made wienertail, a good beer when you actually have something to celebrate. Not when the fricking clock hits midnight on the 31st of December, or when it's finally the end of a week of working at the job you hate.
In my work I see and hear all the shit alcohol gets people into.
Take care of yourselves.
Have a little fun when it's right.
Don't overdo it whether it's hedonism or asceticism.
I've always heard how people drink to forget their issues or whatever, but how many actually do that? I've only ever drank to relax or have a good time. I've never just been sad and thought, man I need to drink.
This is not an attack on you, but ; think about what you said.
>Relax, have a good time
You don't really relax when you have your life's issues on your mind do you ?
It's not really a conscious process.
People drink because it gets them buzzed, or they like the taste, or it's the social thing to do in that moment. But then one starts to unconsciously associate "not thinking about problems time" with alcohol. So they want more of that headspace where one doesn't think about problems. And they drink more.
I have met several bartenders and colleagues who openly admit they are addicted to drinking, but it's better than face the problems and work on them.
Or, you know, do crack, opiates. Alcohol is legal and easier to procure though.
I never got drunk in my life and I never will.
I have been drunk every day of my life and I always will be
I smoke weed and I drink alcohol. No I am not stopping either, yes my life is fine, yes I am content. What now, frickhead?
>Gets me laid
Most of you defending alcohol sound like the israelites that defend porn when Nofap is brought up
You realize beer has been a staple of European culture for millennia. It was the reason we could sail the open seas and colonize the world. Alcohol was used as a way to purify and preserve water, and was consumed near daily by European adventures and sailors. Medieval Europeans drank a liter of beer a day, and sailors drank a gallon. The entire European continent dedicated countless hours to the perfection of the process of fermentation to produce the best beers and wines in this world to this day. Alcohol is unironically one of the most European things. That all being said drink in moderation, moderations is at most 2 standard drinks a day. If you can’t drink moderately don’t drink at all. Simple as that.
Yes, i'm sure everyone thinks of Charlemagne while drinking their poison pisswater. Saying alcohol is "the most european thing ever" is like saying that the black plague is the most european thing ever. Just because shit-covered serfs had to drink diluted poison so their intestines wouldnt get devoured by parasites doesn't mean you have to do the same. You live in the developed wirld, you are free from alcohol. You have perfectly fine drinking water everywhere around you, there is no need to drink something which, as you said, had to be meticulously finetuned for thousands of years to be barely palatable by those with an acquired resistance/addiction to it. There is no great historical context to drinking shitty booze. You are chained to it. Get rid of alcohol.
>barely palatable
You have to be 18 to post here
6th identical reply ITT. Do you people not have any arguments? Are you still in middle school? "dude BEEER WOOAH WE ARE 21 WOOOAH DUDE BEEER HAHAA I LOVE BEER OMG OMG IT TASTES SO GOOOOOD I LOOOOOVE FRICKING BEER AM I COOL YET GUYS? CAN I COME TO THE FRAT PARTY NOW GUYS? I LOOOVE BEER GUYS CMON PLEASE PLEEEASE I NEED TO BE ACCEPTED BEER PLEASE!!"
they sound like the people they make fun of on /fph/
That's because both are coping addicts.
I don't know if I'm addicted or what. I need to stop drinking except for when I'm being social or out to dinner, but my typical night at home is 1-2 beers or glasses of liquor or wine with dinner and while I watch TV or read. But 2 drinks every night seems like it'd affect your health as well as fitness recovery. But I keep convincing myself to do it at night anyway like it won't hurt and I'll stop the next day. But I don't feel BAD when I don't drink, I just WANT to at night. Is that alcoholism?
2 standard drinks has negligible affects on your health. That being said if you are gaining weight or are wanting to, then you should cut back. Alcohol is mostly just hollow calories unless it’s homemade and unfiltered
2 standard every night though? I am aware it's pretty shitty nutritionally, but did you mean when trying to lose weight instead of gain? I'm trying to gain right now and it's probably putting on shitty weight, but I try to cut back on alcohol hard more when I'm trying to cut weight, especially since recovery already feels shitty during a cut
Healthcare recommendations consider 2 standard drinks a day for a man to be negligible for health, and even potentially impart some benefits, but that is not saying you should drink every day. I meant to say if you are gaining weight (unintentionally) or trying to lose weight, you should cut back on alcohol. When I was trying to gain weight I would drink a 22 of homemade unfiltered beer after every lifting session. I added some pretty clean weight and my lifts improved, but I also have a clean diet and was lifting 4 times a week. Point is alcohol in moderation doesn’t really do any harm so long as your other shit is in order. If a beer of two a couple nights a week makes you happy then go ahead: as long as you keep it in check.
>Healthcare recommendations
there are thousands of different opininions, you shouldn't make claims of that kind. I personally am convinced that 2 standard drinks are not negligible.
That is where it comes down to a personal decision. If 2 drinks is weighing on your health then don’t do it. There is a lot of research out there with varying results, mostly likely due to the lack of control that can be imparted on the studies or poor reporting from individuals that are used in the studies. It’s worth reading into, major healthcare outlet’s tend to say similar things though. Moderate drinking may slightly increases your risk for some health conditions like certain cancers, and it may imparts some health benefits like being protective over CVD. However most tend to come to the conclusion that you should not drink every day, and that moderate drinking tends to be fairly benign for health, but anything more should be avoided.
>If 2 drinks is weighing on your health then don’t do it.
the problem is that it's not easy to tell right away. Some devastating side effects kick in decades later. It's the oldest story of the world that young people think they are strong and can consume whatever they want, and they get to pay the prize when they get older. And although it's the oldest story in the world every young person thinks that it's not true for them.
It doesn’t take long to feel shit weigh on your health. I learned when I was young drinking in excess is not good. You feel like shit the next day and usually perform like shit. The issue is the folly of youth, pushing past what makes you feel like shit and thinking you will be okay. I’m not recommending anyone here starts drinking 2 drinks a night, and have said that multiple times, but if you are wanting to have a beer or two a few days out of the week then go ahead, the actual affect it will have on your health is minimal, and I bet eating cured meats, drinking soda, or consuming fast food at the same rate or less would increase your risks for disease more than drinking beer. Living life trying to minmax life is stupid, stay in good health, but there is no point going over board worrying about every last small thing that might increase your risk of a disease inconsequentially.
>Healthcare recommendations
The same healthcare machine pushing experimental jabs as a cure to an orchestrated pandemic?
Then go off of traditional wisdom. Uses spirits and brandies as aperitifs for digestion. Drink beer and wine in large quantities every day. I have general distrust for most of healthcare at this point too ever since their attemp at forced jabbing, but it’s stupid to assume all previous info publish by them is wrong at least without looking into it. There is a good amount of research done on alcohol consumption on health, and if your interested it’s worth a read tbh
Because either he was preciously addicted and thinks that there is only abstinence or addiction and he is desperate to try and stay in control, or one of his parents was an alcoholic and it led to a similar out come of him trying to control others
Why not, everyone should care.
It's neither though.
What makes your viewpoints so extreme on drinking then? Most people would not think a person who has a couple beers at the end of a week an addict.
I don't think such a person would feel the need to defend alcohol.
You have more than a few lads in this thread that fit that description and are being called alcoholics. I am a brewer with the trade being passed down to me from my father and to him from his father and so on. I am very responsible with my drinking and so is my father. We enjoy making and drinking beer wine and basically everything fermented, but do it responsibly. I’ve bonded with my dad over making many beers. The reason I defend it is because it has brought a lot of good in my life, and I have never had an issue with drinking moderately. I understand that some people cannot drink without going over board, but there are many of us who can stop after 1, or just like a beer or two a few times a week.
depends on where you live and with what kind of people you're surrounded. I actually think it's problematic to drink every week, and I say this after about 20 years of deluding myself with just the mindset that's shown in your post. You will get negative effects on your anatomic, psychological and spiritual health if you drink regularily. It doesn't matter that everybody seems to do it, which also isn't the case.
More people caring wouldn't take the choice away.
>why do you care that there’s a passed out heroin addict on every street corner bro? Let people enjoy things
Yeah we should all just accept our homes becoming Brazilian favela tier shitholes where you can’t walk outside without being mugged by some junkies and there’s used needles and piss all over the ground. Typical drunktard mindset
>Makes me feel good
Refute that OP
I'll drink to that! SKAL!