Not falling for the intimacy psyop ever again. 25 years without so much as a touch from a woman and I was fine. But then IST told me >ygmi >just bee yourself
So I finally got a girl and felt what it was like to be intimate with another person. It was a whole new world. It felt like I had discovered something that should be off limits to promising wizards like myself. And I was right. After losing it I was never the same. Now all I feel all the time is lonely and empty. Every conversation with a woman my mind is screaming till my ears bleed but I'm never flying that close to the sun ever again.
Fricking hell anon you are me
I was fricking happy before, i didn't care to have a woman, i was content with my life. But then i got involved with a girl and now I'm miserable because she has left and shown me how good human contact can be
>have female friend >likes cuddling platonically >spend days to weeks in complete isolation outside gym / family (wfh) >see her again for first time in long time >cuddle >want to fricking die >don't even have crush on her, just know how fleeting this is and am being pressed against a window of something I'll never afford
How do you even just cuddle with a chick platonically? Without it turning to more. I always saw chicks in college talking about wanting a "cuddle buddy" but I never understood
Not finding the girl super hot that often and knowing it'd turn toxic as a romantic relationship, along with borderline unhealthy self control, most situations other guys would probably would feel sexually tortured over and over again being *almost* sensual but never actually getting to progress anything. It being a friend of a decade+ also kind of establishes the precedence.
>hug her and then frick her
don't frick her stupid. Ask for the girlfriend experience and cuddle while she asks about your day. Just don't be a stalking schizo after.
>Be me >Having sleeping problems >Watch online that anime people sleep with pillows >Tell mom to make cylinder pillow >Mom makes it >Wrap it with old but really soft clothes >Hug pillow every night and pretend like it's clingy waifu >Sleeps like baby
Bros get a gf. Making out and sex is great but just hugging feels so fricking great. When she rests her head on your shoulder and you can feel her heartbeat beating against your chest, her smell, her hair. Everything about it feels amazing.
Do you know where you are? The median amount of social interaction, human touch, etc. here are all zero. All you're doing is causing these poor schmucks pain by bringing this shit up. Let it go, go talk to your normie friends about it.
>you NEED hugs!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lol no, don't care. I hug my cousins and aunts and uncles on christmas; it does nothing for me.
Nothing in this world can affect you, if you just don't care.
I have to agree somewhat, not to that extent, but I've had girls at work hug me who are like 3-5/10s, and I'm generally repulsed by their attitude, so it does nothing for me too. I haven't had feels for a girl in a long time, but I can't imagine being unaffected by a hug from someone I genuinely feel affection for.
>have to get tested for some shit >go to the lab 2 different days and interact with 2 different lab techs >fall in love with both
touch starvation is real bros
When i was 18 and removed my lower wisdom teeth one of the teeth surgeons touched my hand when i winced in pain. She held it for several seconds
frick that was good
i feel ya brah.
I just imagine cuddling someone, once you learn to visualise well enough you will start feeling the physical positive effects aswell. Baki dou is a documentary
not him but you might accidentally create a tulpa, I think that's what anon is leaning onto. And that's basically giving yourself schizophrenia with extra steps.
I'll try lucid dreaming persistent characters and create a coom harem.
I currently don't have access to a gf membership and am wondering if a pretend gf is a decent substitute. My current routine is: >talk to myself 5x15min/per day >when I achieve something I image telling my gf about it and her getting excited >violently jerk off to disgusting porn 3x/day >lie in bed at night hugging my blanket and pillow caressing my own body while imagining I'm holding my crush
>31.5 years old >kissless virgin so no affection there >only child so no affection with siblings or nieces/nephews >still live with parents and we have rarely shown affection at all ever, I barely even speak to them, haven’t had a real conversation in decades, probably over a decade since hugging, have never kissed even on cheek either >have barely even had friends in my life because of how miserable I have always been >complete and utter loser in life, contemplate suicide every single day, and too afraid to speak to people because I will reveal how pathetic and worthless I am
The depths of my loneliness could not even be comprehended by most people outside of maybe other IST guys, but even on here most people who cry about loneliness reference girlfriends or friends. It’s so over
I wish I never entered this thread, my worst fear is that being in a relationship is as good as it is in my head and I won’t get to experience it. The idea that I’ve heard that it isn’t all that great, is comforting.
The only time I have to acknowledge the existence of relationships, is out in public and the occasional dreams, (In movies I can dismiss it, the same way I can dismiss the existence of elves) I can not pay attention to it in public, but sometimes I still see it.
personally I think PDAs should be banned, if they were banned all I would have to deal with is my dreams and I could live in blissful ignorance.
>tfw I hugged someone and I felt so at ease that I wouldn’t have cared if time stopped and I was stuck in that moment with her forever >she didn’t feel the same >I haven’t had a bug like that since (over 5 years ago now.)
Not even hugs from my family felt as good as that.
i am just constantly annoyed by women and dont even want to deal with them
this isnt the typical IST "lol i hate women so much i wish all women were dead but in reality the guys try so hard to desperately win their approval and will still want to date them, hang out with them, try to match them on tinder, etc" stuff about women. i just get so annoyed by them, and i also hate it when they have higher pitched voices and vocal fry, i get literally enraged just from them opening their mouths. i know how pathetic it is to be a kissless virgin at my age, no hugs, no affection whatsoever, and i desperately want to have it, but at the same time i dont want to deal with them
this debilitating autism i a miserable, lonely existence, and i want to kill myself
I have a weighted blanket.
>My ancestors are smiling at me, imperials. Can you say the same?
is that the tard squisher
guys hear me out, i need a ¿n agent for the porn industry, i had the greatest idea
>The design is very human
1-5 hugs for strength
6-7 hugs does nothing.
8-12 hugs for hypertrophy
13+ hugs is just cardio
A-and 0?
A negative effect is applied to you resulting in low motivation and gains. Effects go away by receiving hugs or turning 30.
The birth of the wizard
So that's why I broke a plateau after my birthday.
Bloatlord gains the likes of which have never been seen before.
peaty
1 hug every 3 weeks
hug till failure
>static holds
1 hug every 3 years for me
mentzerpilled
>call mom
>she drives over
>power hug her 12 times in a row
too fricking easy...
Based. What's your mom's number?
uhh 123-4567-890
She asked for half up front so I hung up on her.
>we need four hugs a day for survival
damn, guess i died a long time ago
does hugging your dog count
bros?
it must or else id be dead by now
The extent of my emotional and physical intimacy in the last 12 years has been one hug, what benefits do I obtain from fasting?
Not falling for the intimacy psyop ever again. 25 years without so much as a touch from a woman and I was fine. But then IST told me
>ygmi
>just bee yourself
So I finally got a girl and felt what it was like to be intimate with another person. It was a whole new world. It felt like I had discovered something that should be off limits to promising wizards like myself. And I was right. After losing it I was never the same. Now all I feel all the time is lonely and empty. Every conversation with a woman my mind is screaming till my ears bleed but I'm never flying that close to the sun ever again.
that’s fricked up bro sorry.
32yo khv. Imagine what a simple hug from a female would do to my brain.
Anything above that and I would probably go full moronic
Fricking hell anon you are me
I was fricking happy before, i didn't care to have a woman, i was content with my life. But then i got involved with a girl and now I'm miserable because she has left and shown me how good human contact can be
>have female friend
>likes cuddling platonically
>spend days to weeks in complete isolation outside gym / family (wfh)
>see her again for first time in long time
>cuddle
>want to fricking die
>don't even have crush on her, just know how fleeting this is and am being pressed against a window of something I'll never afford
How do you even just cuddle with a chick platonically? Without it turning to more. I always saw chicks in college talking about wanting a "cuddle buddy" but I never understood
Not finding the girl super hot that often and knowing it'd turn toxic as a romantic relationship, along with borderline unhealthy self control, most situations other guys would probably would feel sexually tortured over and over again being *almost* sensual but never actually getting to progress anything. It being a friend of a decade+ also kind of establishes the precedence.
Stay strong, brother.
u too fren
Yeah at this point it seems more trouble than its worth
I feel lonely and empty without ever getting a girl. What does that mean?
>tfw you read this and realize things started going wrong the night you lost your virginity for the very same reason
>3x10 hugs
>3x10 kisses
>fricking to failure
>cuddling to success
>2km walk handholding
How do you cuddle to success?
Don't hug too much. If you hug three hours less each night for a year, you will have an extra month and a half to succeed in
To cuddle in*, I see
>Tfw I have 25 year's of extra time
If hugs are good shrugs are better.
>c section
>vaccines
>antibiotics
>bottle fed
>antibacterial soap
>spend childhood inside
>no sports
Literally me. It's over innit?
i can't believe i'm fricking dead
that's what body pillows are for
I haven't been hugged in 12 years
Would it be weird to hire an escort and just hug her
They're used to it. Their entire job is to service men who are to weird to get affection through conventional means.
wtf i should be huge by now
nevermind I'm huge but fat huge not muscle huge
let me guess, you did 5x5?
post routine w/ stats
6"1 350lbs 6%
4x12 cuddles
4x12 snuggles superset with drophugs
AMRAP sweet kisses
Chin tickles x failure
6 days a week then an 8 hour arm day
Dis nigguh 6 inchies tall
>nigguh
uh oh major Hitler vibes
my fiance cooks great but they are calorie dense unfortunately
Then put those calories to good use son.
what part of Greece is that anon?
santorini
Source : Some homosexuals Fricking Ass
You sound mad
im so fricking touchstarved. every ffricking day every fricking dream at night it makes me want to cry
Quit fricking crying you pussy. I'm at around 16 years and I'm still fine. Stop letting these gains goblins influence your pattern of thought.
When 4D computers come out i will give you a hug through the internet anon. You just have to hold out
Just get a prostitute and hug her and then frick her. Then you can feel gross after, but you'd satisfy your craving.
>hug her and then frick her
don't frick her stupid. Ask for the girlfriend experience and cuddle while she asks about your day. Just don't be a stalking schizo after.
We're really fricking out here huh
>Be me
>Having sleeping problems
>Watch online that anime people sleep with pillows
>Tell mom to make cylinder pillow
>Mom makes it
>Wrap it with old but really soft clothes
>Hug pillow every night and pretend like it's clingy waifu
>Sleeps like baby
thats so pathetic that its come out the other side abd became based
I just pat myself on the head for a few minutes and all my troubles wash away.
>Jews fear the self-soothing white man
qrd on proper form? don't want to snap my shit up
just take your hand and repeatedly slap your bald ass head
Im long dead
Bros get a gf. Making out and sex is great but just hugging feels so fricking great. When she rests her head on your shoulder and you can feel her heartbeat beating against your chest, her smell, her hair. Everything about it feels amazing.
Do you know where you are? The median amount of social interaction, human touch, etc. here are all zero. All you're doing is causing these poor schmucks pain by bringing this shit up. Let it go, go talk to your normie friends about it.
Wrong. To bury one's head in the sand won't solve your problem.
Frick you for writing this and I hope you have a horribe day
I am 29 years old and I never even kissed a girl
Get a job
I paid a hooker for an hour of cuddling once
It was simultaneously the happiest and the most pathetic moment of my life
the only thing that's pathetic is the conditions we're forced to live in. dont be ashamed of that, you're a human being
yeah thats not pathetic at all imo
>you NEED hugs!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lol no, don't care. I hug my cousins and aunts and uncles on christmas; it does nothing for me.
Nothing in this world can affect you, if you just don't care.
>I don't care about being stab-ACK
I have to agree somewhat, not to that extent, but I've had girls at work hug me who are like 3-5/10s, and I'm generally repulsed by their attitude, so it does nothing for me too. I haven't had feels for a girl in a long time, but I can't imagine being unaffected by a hug from someone I genuinely feel affection for.
>Virginia Satir (26 June 1916 – 10 September 1988) was an American author and psychotherapist
nah I'm good lmao
>been running on 0 hugs for the past 10 years
heh, guess I'm just built different
Ask mommy
>have to get tested for some shit
>go to the lab 2 different days and interact with 2 different lab techs
>fall in love with both
touch starvation is real bros
When i was 18 and removed my lower wisdom teeth one of the teeth surgeons touched my hand when i winced in pain. She held it for several seconds
frick that was good
i feel ya brah.
get a dog and they will snuggle you
it's better than nothing and there are lots of dogs who get killed because no one wants them
I just imagine cuddling someone, once you learn to visualise well enough you will start feeling the physical positive effects aswell. Baki dou is a documentary
yeah but the downside is that you're giving birth to thought forms so they can in turn give you energy. It probably works but it's too convoluted.
Explain again and reword so its not schizofrenic babbling
not him but you might accidentally create a tulpa, I think that's what anon is leaning onto. And that's basically giving yourself schizophrenia with extra steps.
I'll try lucid dreaming persistent characters and create a coom harem.
Embrace Islam. Hug and kiss your spotter after every set, hold hands walking to the showers.
>you need 4 hugs a day to survive
so how do all KHVs don't die?
checkmate, you hug promoting mendel.
it's a slow death
Way too fricking slow
I currently don't have access to a gf membership and am wondering if a pretend gf is a decent substitute. My current routine is:
>talk to myself 5x15min/per day
>when I achieve something I image telling my gf about it and her getting excited
>violently jerk off to disgusting porn 3x/day
>lie in bed at night hugging my blanket and pillow caressing my own body while imagining I'm holding my crush
>31.5 years old
>kissless virgin so no affection there
>only child so no affection with siblings or nieces/nephews
>still live with parents and we have rarely shown affection at all ever, I barely even speak to them, haven’t had a real conversation in decades, probably over a decade since hugging, have never kissed even on cheek either
>have barely even had friends in my life because of how miserable I have always been
>complete and utter loser in life, contemplate suicide every single day, and too afraid to speak to people because I will reveal how pathetic and worthless I am
The depths of my loneliness could not even be comprehended by most people outside of maybe other IST guys, but even on here most people who cry about loneliness reference girlfriends or friends. It’s so over
find people on discord and become friend with them. ive been spending hours with people that ive known recently there.
maybe lift, and make a profile on some dating app(i hate those but you could try them)?
i wont say im in a better place, ygmi anon.
Get a job, save up for a bit and then move out homie. Sounds like you guys make each other miserable
I hug myself and give myself little pecs on the biceps when I do it. Feels good
Hugs > tren ?
i pay an escort to cuddle with me sometimes, i don't have to ever worry about women tbh
How do you do that without wanting to have a nice day
He doesn't.
What kind of gains can I expect with 12 hugs per lifetime? I know it's not optimal but I can't really hugmax atm
>see this post
>go to younger sister and ask for a hug
>she says "all of a sudden?"
>hugs me anyways
>instant happiness
bros I think it's true
I wish I never entered this thread, my worst fear is that being in a relationship is as good as it is in my head and I won’t get to experience it. The idea that I’ve heard that it isn’t all that great, is comforting.
The only time I have to acknowledge the existence of relationships, is out in public and the occasional dreams, (In movies I can dismiss it, the same way I can dismiss the existence of elves) I can not pay attention to it in public, but sometimes I still see it.
personally I think PDAs should be banned, if they were banned all I would have to deal with is my dreams and I could live in blissful ignorance.
confess!
when's the last time you were hugged by someone you truly cared about?
me?
probably back in 2017
Probably around like 2008 or 2009.
>tfw I hugged someone and I felt so at ease that I wouldn’t have cared if time stopped and I was stuck in that moment with her forever
>she didn’t feel the same
>I haven’t had a bug like that since (over 5 years ago now.)
Not even hugs from my family felt as good as that.
i am just constantly annoyed by women and dont even want to deal with them
this isnt the typical IST "lol i hate women so much i wish all women were dead but in reality the guys try so hard to desperately win their approval and will still want to date them, hang out with them, try to match them on tinder, etc" stuff about women. i just get so annoyed by them, and i also hate it when they have higher pitched voices and vocal fry, i get literally enraged just from them opening their mouths. i know how pathetic it is to be a kissless virgin at my age, no hugs, no affection whatsoever, and i desperately want to have it, but at the same time i dont want to deal with them
this debilitating autism i a miserable, lonely existence, and i want to kill myself
uniornically, try guys bro
It's time for a therapist anon
>that's for losers
You are one
Got 2 good hugs in last Eastern with my thicc neighbor and her MILF mom. See you later virgins!
just hug your pillow and pretend it's your gf, problem solved
You should go hug your parents, NOW