How about supinated grip rows? Not supercheated like yates rows where you're basically standing straight. Maybe it's just me but I feel like they helped me a whole lot to grow my lats.
Pullovers? Sir? What about front levers? Sir? Sir?
I've tried the first 2, front lever/front lever lifts, pullovers, nothing has worked so far.
lengthened partials on pull ups. I go up until my arms are at a 90 degree angle. Do that weighted and see how it goes.
That's like 80% of the rom and will add 2-4 reps to multiple sets.
Trying these right now for a month now, I haven't checked progress but they've been consistently sore every week.
sorry to be the one to tell you but
i think you might miss part of your lat muscles bro
go to a doctor seems to be like a birth defect
i had a friend who was born without the upper trap muscle
he still had the tendons so that and the other muscles compensated for the lack of traps
took him a long time to find out he didn't had it
lengthened partials on pull ups. I go up until my arms are at a 90 degree angle. Do that weighted and see how it goes.
That's like 80% of the rom and will add 2-4 reps to multiple sets.
won't do anything, lat recruitment drops off when they're stretched
I tried lengtheend partials on pullups and all I got was chest and tricep doms
shortened partials would be superior for lats in a pullup
https://i.imgur.com/4tZ6IyQ.jpeg
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I've tried the first 2, front lever/front lever lifts, pullovers, nothing has worked so far.
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Trying these right now for a month now, I haven't checked progress but they've been consistently sore every week.
>I've tried the first 2, front lever/front lever lifts, pullovers, nothing has worked so far.
you're stretching the lats in that photo which makes them look smaller than they really are
pose with the arms relaxed to the sides and they won't look small
your lats actually look overpowering compared to your upper back due to lack of rows I assume
pullovers are not lats
50kg 1rm pullup is good but not exceptional, you can do better
just giving constructive criticism not trying to neg
>lat recruitment drops off when they're stretched
why is the back such a fricking mess
I dont get it
this dude says the opposite
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/lVNJCj-d9SM
Focusing on the lat stretch is more important in rows because lat fibers are mostly horizontal or some shit like that, I'm sure some nerd can correct me
just look at the data yourself, pic related
also people confuse soreness with stimulation and think usually in absolutes >if some muscles grow best from lengthened exercises then they all have to!
that sort of thing you know
it's also hard to differentiate between lat muscle soreness and teres soreness and lat tendon soreness so I don't blame them
https://i.imgur.com/h0pp9yi.jpeg
>shortened partials would be superior for lats in a pullup
I think you're right and I might be feeling my teres muscles that are sore which is fine with me. >pose with the arms relaxed to the sides and they won't look small
But that's kinda cheating. I saw some calisthenics guys in a deadhang that had wings so I wanted to see what mine would look like so I took that pic and was disappointed. I've been wide rowing 30-35kg and shrugging a lot more since I took pics, should be more dominant when I take the next pic.
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Thanks, I'll get a doctor to look into it.
see, they look way bigger when relaxed!
it's very hard to have giant protuding lats in a pullup dead hang position if you don't have the genetics for it
some people just have tiny hips and waist and wide clavicles with low lat insertions which will greatly improve the look and you can't really train for it sadly >I've been wide rowing
based
just keep trying to get stronger friend
Focusing on the lat stretch is more important in rows because lat fibers are mostly horizontal or some shit like that, I'm sure some nerd can correct me
I don't think it's due to the orientation of the muscle fibers but rather neuromechanical matching, hard to explain either way
>shortened partials would be superior for lats in a pullup
I think you're right and I might be feeling my teres muscles that are sore which is fine with me. >pose with the arms relaxed to the sides and they won't look small
But that's kinda cheating. I saw some calisthenics guys in a deadhang that had wings so I wanted to see what mine would look like so I took that pic and was disappointed. I've been wide rowing 30-35kg and shrugging a lot more since I took pics, should be more dominant when I take the next pic.
sorry to be the one to tell you but
i think you might miss part of your lat muscles bro
go to a doctor seems to be like a birth defect
i had a friend who was born without the upper trap muscle
he still had the tendons so that and the other muscles compensated for the lack of traps
took him a long time to find out he didn't had it
hmm maybe it was the photo
maybe it's just a short lat
i personally don't feel the lats to much when doing pull ups or levers
i like one armed rows on the ring to really feel the lat from top to bottom
fully rotate your body out at the bottom and than rotate your body in while pulling and squeeze the lats on top
I tried liquid chalk the other day after years of using straps and it has improved my back training a lot. Feels like my hands are glued to the bar. Would recommend.
surely youll get more replies this time around. SURELY
>weighted Pull Ups 3-5 rep range
>neutral grip lat pulldowns
>straight arm pulldowns 12-20 rep range
*solves Lat training
Solid list but why no rows?
If he's solely after lat growth then you can't go wrong with those 3. Then add in rows for your mid/upper back
How about supinated grip rows? Not supercheated like yates rows where you're basically standing straight. Maybe it's just me but I feel like they helped me a whole lot to grow my lats.
Just do pull-ups, dumbbell rows, and lat pulldowns
I've tried the first 2, front lever/front lever lifts, pullovers, nothing has worked so far.
Trying these right now for a month now, I haven't checked progress but they've been consistently sore every week.
sorry to be the one to tell you but
i think you might miss part of your lat muscles bro
go to a doctor seems to be like a birth defect
i had a friend who was born without the upper trap muscle
he still had the tendons so that and the other muscles compensated for the lack of traps
took him a long time to find out he didn't had it
is there a point in doing 3 exercises with identical movement patterns?
all require shoulder extension and adduction
tried chin ups?
This op. You want your elbows close to your body, yours are flared out in the pic. Either try a narrower grip or switch to chins
Pullovers? Sir? What about front levers? Sir? Sir?
lengthened partials on pull ups. I go up until my arms are at a 90 degree angle. Do that weighted and see how it goes.
That's like 80% of the rom and will add 2-4 reps to multiple sets.
won't do anything, lat recruitment drops off when they're stretched
I tried lengtheend partials on pullups and all I got was chest and tricep doms
shortened partials would be superior for lats in a pullup
>I've tried the first 2, front lever/front lever lifts, pullovers, nothing has worked so far.
you're stretching the lats in that photo which makes them look smaller than they really are
pose with the arms relaxed to the sides and they won't look small
your lats actually look overpowering compared to your upper back due to lack of rows I assume
pullovers are not lats
50kg 1rm pullup is good but not exceptional, you can do better
just giving constructive criticism not trying to neg
>lat recruitment drops off when they're stretched
why is the back such a fricking mess
I dont get it
this dude says the opposite
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/lVNJCj-d9SM
Focusing on the lat stretch is more important in rows because lat fibers are mostly horizontal or some shit like that, I'm sure some nerd can correct me
just look at the data yourself, pic related
also people confuse soreness with stimulation and think usually in absolutes
>if some muscles grow best from lengthened exercises then they all have to!
that sort of thing you know
it's also hard to differentiate between lat muscle soreness and teres soreness and lat tendon soreness so I don't blame them
see, they look way bigger when relaxed!
it's very hard to have giant protuding lats in a pullup dead hang position if you don't have the genetics for it
some people just have tiny hips and waist and wide clavicles with low lat insertions which will greatly improve the look and you can't really train for it sadly
>I've been wide rowing
based
just keep trying to get stronger friend
I don't think it's due to the orientation of the muscle fibers but rather neuromechanical matching, hard to explain either way
>shortened partials would be superior for lats in a pullup
I think you're right and I might be feeling my teres muscles that are sore which is fine with me.
>pose with the arms relaxed to the sides and they won't look small
But that's kinda cheating. I saw some calisthenics guys in a deadhang that had wings so I wanted to see what mine would look like so I took that pic and was disappointed. I've been wide rowing 30-35kg and shrugging a lot more since I took pics, should be more dominant when I take the next pic.
Thanks, I'll get a doctor to look into it.
hmm maybe it was the photo
maybe it's just a short lat
i personally don't feel the lats to much when doing pull ups or levers
i like one armed rows on the ring to really feel the lat from top to bottom
fully rotate your body out at the bottom and than rotate your body in while pulling and squeeze the lats on top
Try FL lifts from a deadhang, it's all lats and scap muscles.
do a weighted dead hang
>Can lat pulldown 300lb
It's impressive because I'm a lanklet
It looks like you're shrugging. Don't shrug keep scapula down. I always see dudes with shoulders around their ears trying to do pull downs
Have you tried a thumbless grip?
I tried liquid chalk the other day after years of using straps and it has improved my back training a lot. Feels like my hands are glued to the bar. Would recommend.