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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    surely youll get more replies this time around. SURELY

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >weighted Pull Ups 3-5 rep range
    >neutral grip lat pulldowns
    >straight arm pulldowns 12-20 rep range
    *solves Lat training

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Solid list but why no rows?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If he's solely after lat growth then you can't go wrong with those 3. Then add in rows for your mid/upper back

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          How about supinated grip rows? Not supercheated like yates rows where you're basically standing straight. Maybe it's just me but I feel like they helped me a whole lot to grow my lats.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Just do pull-ups, dumbbell rows, and lat pulldowns

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Pullovers? Sir? What about front levers? Sir? Sir?

      I've tried the first 2, front lever/front lever lifts, pullovers, nothing has worked so far.

      lengthened partials on pull ups. I go up until my arms are at a 90 degree angle. Do that weighted and see how it goes.
      That's like 80% of the rom and will add 2-4 reps to multiple sets.

      Trying these right now for a month now, I haven't checked progress but they've been consistently sore every week.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        sorry to be the one to tell you but
        i think you might miss part of your lat muscles bro
        go to a doctor seems to be like a birth defect
        i had a friend who was born without the upper trap muscle
        he still had the tendons so that and the other muscles compensated for the lack of traps
        took him a long time to find out he didn't had it

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      is there a point in doing 3 exercises with identical movement patterns?
      all require shoulder extension and adduction

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    tried chin ups?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This op. You want your elbows close to your body, yours are flared out in the pic. Either try a narrower grip or switch to chins

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Pullovers? Sir? What about front levers? Sir? Sir?

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    lengthened partials on pull ups. I go up until my arms are at a 90 degree angle. Do that weighted and see how it goes.
    That's like 80% of the rom and will add 2-4 reps to multiple sets.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      won't do anything, lat recruitment drops off when they're stretched
      I tried lengtheend partials on pullups and all I got was chest and tricep doms
      shortened partials would be superior for lats in a pullup

      https://i.imgur.com/4tZ6IyQ.jpeg

      [...]
      I've tried the first 2, front lever/front lever lifts, pullovers, nothing has worked so far.

      [...]
      Trying these right now for a month now, I haven't checked progress but they've been consistently sore every week.

      >I've tried the first 2, front lever/front lever lifts, pullovers, nothing has worked so far.
      you're stretching the lats in that photo which makes them look smaller than they really are
      pose with the arms relaxed to the sides and they won't look small
      your lats actually look overpowering compared to your upper back due to lack of rows I assume
      pullovers are not lats
      50kg 1rm pullup is good but not exceptional, you can do better

      just giving constructive criticism not trying to neg

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >lat recruitment drops off when they're stretched
        why is the back such a fricking mess
        I dont get it
        this dude says the opposite
        https://www.youtube.com/shorts/lVNJCj-d9SM

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Focusing on the lat stretch is more important in rows because lat fibers are mostly horizontal or some shit like that, I'm sure some nerd can correct me

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          just look at the data yourself, pic related
          also people confuse soreness with stimulation and think usually in absolutes
          >if some muscles grow best from lengthened exercises then they all have to!
          that sort of thing you know
          it's also hard to differentiate between lat muscle soreness and teres soreness and lat tendon soreness so I don't blame them

          https://i.imgur.com/h0pp9yi.jpeg

          >shortened partials would be superior for lats in a pullup
          I think you're right and I might be feeling my teres muscles that are sore which is fine with me.
          >pose with the arms relaxed to the sides and they won't look small
          But that's kinda cheating. I saw some calisthenics guys in a deadhang that had wings so I wanted to see what mine would look like so I took that pic and was disappointed. I've been wide rowing 30-35kg and shrugging a lot more since I took pics, should be more dominant when I take the next pic.

          [...]
          Thanks, I'll get a doctor to look into it.

          see, they look way bigger when relaxed!
          it's very hard to have giant protuding lats in a pullup dead hang position if you don't have the genetics for it
          some people just have tiny hips and waist and wide clavicles with low lat insertions which will greatly improve the look and you can't really train for it sadly
          >I've been wide rowing
          based
          just keep trying to get stronger friend

          Focusing on the lat stretch is more important in rows because lat fibers are mostly horizontal or some shit like that, I'm sure some nerd can correct me

          I don't think it's due to the orientation of the muscle fibers but rather neuromechanical matching, hard to explain either way

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >shortened partials would be superior for lats in a pullup
        I think you're right and I might be feeling my teres muscles that are sore which is fine with me.
        >pose with the arms relaxed to the sides and they won't look small
        But that's kinda cheating. I saw some calisthenics guys in a deadhang that had wings so I wanted to see what mine would look like so I took that pic and was disappointed. I've been wide rowing 30-35kg and shrugging a lot more since I took pics, should be more dominant when I take the next pic.

        sorry to be the one to tell you but
        i think you might miss part of your lat muscles bro
        go to a doctor seems to be like a birth defect
        i had a friend who was born without the upper trap muscle
        he still had the tendons so that and the other muscles compensated for the lack of traps
        took him a long time to find out he didn't had it

        Thanks, I'll get a doctor to look into it.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          hmm maybe it was the photo
          maybe it's just a short lat
          i personally don't feel the lats to much when doing pull ups or levers

          i like one armed rows on the ring to really feel the lat from top to bottom
          fully rotate your body out at the bottom and than rotate your body in while pulling and squeeze the lats on top

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Try FL lifts from a deadhang, it's all lats and scap muscles.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    do a weighted dead hang

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Can lat pulldown 300lb

    It's impressive because I'm a lanklet

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It looks like you're shrugging. Don't shrug keep scapula down. I always see dudes with shoulders around their ears trying to do pull downs

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Have you tried a thumbless grip?

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I tried liquid chalk the other day after years of using straps and it has improved my back training a lot. Feels like my hands are glued to the bar. Would recommend.

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