>le count your calories and protein per bodyweight
Explain jacked people who ate bread and drank water only 2 thousand years ago
>le count your calories and protein per bodyweight
>le count your calories and protein per bodyweight
Explain jacked people who ate bread and drank water only 2 thousand years ago
>2000 years ago
didn't have time to count calories from all the shit you had to do to survive another day you dumb homosexual jesus frick what a thread
you're completely ignoring ops point.
Well OP is a mental moron who thinks people only ate bread and water and that they were all jacked.
Explain my ballsack on your mother's chin
They weren’t jacked
This. At best they where strong, and it was mostly due to physical labor not training.
>inb4 gladiators
Yes, they trained, but more on the use of weapons and fight techinique than other thing.
They were also sponsored and the better ones got better sponsors, thus better food, and they were the better ones due to genetics, so superior genetics + proper food
gladiators ate almost exclusively carbs, they were actually pretty overweight typically. More of like a strongman physique or like an NFL lineman / rugby player
as for natives, african tribesmen, those types, its the combination of genetics and constant physical exertion. Its no question they're higher T, and they move all day every day laboring in the sun. Wouldn't be surprised if their bodies were better adapted to nutrient partitioning considering it never had to filter out the nonsense in goyslop
The myths of subsistence and persistance hunting are just that - myths.
Before most megafauna had died out and before Africa had turned into a miserable desert, ancient people mass-hunted large animals.
They often used landscaping techniques to kill them via geography, driving them off of cliffs or depending on them being trampled.
They hunted way more than they needed and they certainly didn't run for hours.
There is a very interesting book about it, but I don't remember the title. If you search for landscaping/hunter-gatherers and the origins of agriculture, you might be able to find it on Amazon, though.
The modern manifestation of those people is one of starvation phenotypes.
Constant running actually lowers your testosterone, as does nutrient deficiency, which you are bound to run into, if you live off of bread.
And while gladiators at a plant-heavy diet (beans, barley and other starchy crops), they also ate a very significant quantity of meat, dairy and seafood.
https://doi.org/10.1371/journal.pone.0110489
Now the old Egyptians, they are a different story. Almost all of them ate primarily grain. This wasn't even socially stratified. Even the pharaohs lived off of grain.
Do you know what it gave them?
Heart disease. And this is ironically something we can determine today based on their texts and mummies.
>Do you know what it gave them?
>Heart disease.
moronic vegans.
The poor weren't mummified. The rich were. The riche ate meat, sweets, baked goods in abundance. Stop tying to used fallacious historical arguments to prove correlations that dont exist
you're describing people in movies. it is fiction. do you understand that?
People ate more meat than you give them credit for back then lots of game and shit like goat people would turn their noses up at now. Lots of fish and eggs too.
>early humanchads hunted mega fauna to extinction
>later humancels ate bread sludge under their thatched roofs
sad
>explain these people i'm thinking about right now
anon i don't know who you're talking about
Bread isn't that bad for protein. It's not as good as meat in both quality and quantity of protein but it can get you a decent amount of protein if you eat enough.
protein in bread is gluten which does frick all for you
>fantasy movies with steroid users are a true depiction of ancient peoples
Yew naw.
The Unsullied from Game of Thrones resemble what ancient warriors would have looked like. There is archaeological evidence to support this, such as armor/chest sizes found.
In other words, around 160lbs lean, at 5'9".
Unsullied are described as smaller and weaker than the average man in the books, their advantage comes comes from their discipline, formations and skill from years of training
Except in real life, castration opera singers actually grow unusually large due to lack of testosterone that slows growth after puberty
Yeah, I kinda knew this might come up.
While they are described as smaller than average men, due to having the snippy, say compared to someone from the North who is used to tough weather and has a meat based diet, it's still a fantasy setting. And what I mean is, they are still a good representation of how ancient warriors in reality would have looked.
Because of course all the actors work out, and do have testosterone, they are just not roided up which would have prevented them from getting the role.
But then they only look small to others in the show because they have their arms and body on show, and the other people are generally covered up. Jon Snow himself being around 5'7" 145lbs.
The books are fiction anon.
Poor guys probably need lighter shields
cite one piece of evidence
these slaves sent to die for our amusement eating beans
The flabbiness was especially important so they would have some cushion that protects them against slicing weapons that would otherwise destroy vital organs / blood vessels.
warriors ate a ton of meat you fricking moron
you know they had cows back then too?
>Explain jacked people who ate bread and drank water only 2 thousand years ago
they always got btfo by pastorial chads
The ones who did that weren't jacked and plenty of people did not eat that way.
Even "plebs", especially those that did not live in the city (since they were crowded and it was a lot more difficult to keep the animals there), had access to meat. Some were permitted to fish for their own (but not commercial) use and sporadically to hunt. They dried the meat and thus could eat it a little more frequently.
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They also have the best pussies but you probably wouldn’t know anything about that footgay
you know you can enjoy pussy and feet at the same time right? its not either or, you mouthbreathing gorilla Black person
>jacked people who ate bread and drank water only 2 thousand years ago
They didn't eat only bread and drink water. The jacked people ate meat, drank milk and wine, and enjoyed fruits. They also simply were not gluttonous and only ate to their needs since gluttony was often discouraged. Since the soils were of higher quality and the animals were not fed slop, the food was more nutritious enabling intuitive eating using the body's natural satiety. The person who only ate bread and drank water died at 30 from malnutrition, looked like dyels their entire life, and were hungry all the time.
Easy. You made up a scenario that has never existed.
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So jacked.
>Explain jacked people who ate bread and drank water only 2 thousand years ago
You would die after the third day without water
The Dying Gaul statue is a great depiction of bodies of the ancient world. Likely he represents a great warrior who had plenty of good good, and represents a strong warriors body.
The victors over him would not present their enemies as small and feeble.
>The Dyel Gaul
FTFY
Harvard did a study and found out eating a bunch of protein like some huge gay had no significant effect on lean mass when paired with exercise compared to those who didn’t eat a shit ton of protein
Maybe you could make the argument some of them were top tier chads facially
Do you wanna be as strong as you can be or as strong as you could've been as a Roman peasant?
Also I have terminal yellow fever
The people back then weren’t completely jacked. They were about as strong and vascular as non obese Mexican day laborers you’d find outside Home Depot.
They were all pretty good at cardio though
They didn't have birth control in their water supply and estrogens in everything they touch.
>then explain this made up scenario in my head
peasants werent jacked
olympian athletes or elite soldiers ate tons of meat and dairy
case solved, now kys
feet
bread makes you fat
You eat some bread then spend the entire day manually tilling a field
Macros weren’t invented yet dipshit you didn’t have to track them back then
So it still depended on diet. Take the Mongol Empire vs China at the time. Mongols were hunters eating meat and diary and shit. Not sitting around farming and eating grain. Its like a grain based diet vs meat based. So Mongols were more well built also apparently bone structure and shit were different. I heard it a couple places but forget the exact source.
TLDR: Diet and lifestyle of Chad Mongols allowed easier conquest of Virgin grain farmers.
they wernt jacked, and the ones that were, ate alot of meat.
>ate bread and drank water only
they didn't you fricking moron
the old greek olympians used to feast on everything the land had to offer and later on they basically adapted a hypercarnivore diet
look at what fricking spartans ate
bread and water is how you get all the deformed miserable low iq midgets from the middle ages
they drank milk. sorry brown boys
Their lifestyle forced them to do intermittent fasting every day, which preserves muscle mass
I really dont think the 1g or even .7g per lb of bodyweight is accurate, or at least necessary. My lean body mass is 185lbs and I’ve managed to build some muscle the last few months and there’s no way im eating more than like 100-110g of protein a day.
i believe you can still build muscle on lower levels of protein intake, it’s just not “optimal” or at the fastest rate. But even then, the body can only build fraction of an oz of muscle a day. Gorging on protein daily doesn’t seem necessary, sustainable or enjoyable.
Dumb homosexual
Black person
Okay I'll bite let's see what you look like.
you only need enough amino acids to initiate the protein synthesis mechanism, so I suppose with precisely timed protein consumption you could get away with less protein. But for most people consuming a little more than necessary spread out through the day is ideal. Muscles are built more from carbohydrates than they are protein anyways, you're more just trying to meet a threshold, the rest of the equation is carbs.
now post body
Which "jacked people" are you talking about?
The ones OP made up in his head based on artistic depictions that totally weren't embellished.
athletes in ancient greece ate huge quantities of meat and practiced training with weights and shovelled sand for conditioning. there's evidence of this dating back to 300 BC
>Explain jacked people who ate bread and drank water only 2 thousand years ago
they were weak, thats why the iberian peninsula was invaded by germanics 500 times trough out history