>literally get paid to lift, run and shoot
>instills discipline and patriotism in you
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>literally get paid to lift, run and shoot. >instills discipline and patriotism in you
Become a SV software engineer, retire at 35, lift until you die.
Programmer bros how do you get past the sheer cringiness of working within an organizational culture?
I got my first serious job as a Salesforce Developer at a big corporation during the pandemy and while WFH was somewhat chill despite the endless shitty meetings and moronic superiors acting fake friendly, it got significantly worse when it was requested to come to the office as well, like people were so soul less it was depressing af
You're supposed to make friends anon. 99% of people want to let their corporate guard down but can't out of fear.
Cussing is my go to. If I'm working with someone and I get the feeling we're on the same page, I'll blatantly swear at something. Like if me and another dev are working on some bug that's really frustrating, I'll just drop a fat "what the frick". If they swear later on too, you're in. But take baby steps.
>Salesforce Developer
Woah hey.. im just getting into tech and my first job is salesforce developing. Luckily my workplace is fully remote.
What are your thoughts on working with salesforce overall?
It's a new and very hype technology and you will most likely encounter many old farts who will seethe at it and try to bring you down for working with it(kinda like how barbell gays try to bring down people who use cables and machines). You have to either ignore them or basically become a Salesforce shill in order to persevere. Also need to know the platform inside out by passing the starting certifications(administrator and platform app builder) if you're serious about working with Salesforce.
>Also need to know the platform inside out by passing the starting certifications(administrator and platform app builder) if you're serious about working with Salesforce.
Can i just learn on the job?
You can, especially at first, but as you progress you will need to have your theoretical knowledge on par with your practical knowledge otherwise you will always find yourself asking your colleagues for help and become a liability to the firm
>practical knowledge otherwise you will always find yourself asking your colleagues for help and become a liability to the firm
this keeps me up at night. Im still in school. Did a 8 month internship and just started working part time 2 weeks ago. Whats the time frame for that? I feel like i ask a lot of questions, i do work on user stories and my boss has said im productive but i feel so fricking useless.
>boss has said im productive but i feel so fricking useless.
The thing with bosses is that they give extremly unnuanced feedback and you won't know you've fricked up until it's too late.
What I'd do is spam lower managers or senior colleagues you work directly with for regular feedbacks so you know whether you're doing something wrong. This also clears you of any accusations that you weren't proactive.
Also be adamant about what you want to do and your needs so you don't end up being tossed around in projects that use technologies which you have limited knowledge or desire in working with.
I don't talk to anyone, I WFH and lift on company time.
>Programmer bros how do you get past the sheer cringiness of working within an organizational culture?
i quit and started my own software company, now the wagies work in my cage
That sounds like the typical plan
work in company > freelance > make a startup
I wasn't aware institutional re-education about subconscious bias, trannies and the original sin of being huwhite was termed patriotism now
Frick off recruitment Black person
You don't get paid to lift, and I bet you'd be surprised how little you actually shoot
>Patriotism
Reminder, you're not fighting for the country, nor the people, you're fighting for the government
I see recruiters have evolved
Redpilled af
>WE, THE PEOPLE
Even worse, you're fighting for the government and corporations.
Even worse, you're fighting for the government and corporations of a small middle eastern country.
I don't want to clean toilets crusted with MRE shit.
Just do what I did.
Barely scrape through college with a 2.1 GPA and having to petition the dean not to kick you out of the university then working thankless accounting jobs for a few years hating life and eventually getting fired by your abusive boss for reasons never fully explained then being unemployed for seven months during which you literally learn to code and land a cushy WFH job as a BI engineer for a cool six figures doing <30 minutes of actual work per day and being able to lift whenever the frick you want.
Nightmare fuel as a 3.0 GPA accounting/finance/management major (three majors).
How do I not end up like you anon? I came the opposite way from software.
I ended up majoring in accounting because I dropped out of school at one point and when I returned I felt pressured to finish a degree as quickly as possible and accounting required the fewest amount of credit hours. I never had a passion for it, it was always just a job to me. My advice is to major in something that actually interests you.
It was a combination of luck and skill. I interviewed a lot while I was unemployed and got really good at discerning what the interviewers were looking for in a candidate. I learned SQL and Python well enough while being unemployed to bullshit my way into a job offer and only became somewhat proficient at them after I was hired and had to use them every day.
>major in something that actually interests you.
absolute ass recommendation unless
>you are really REALLY passionate about it
>what interests you leads to an actual useful career like programming, STEM, etc
the fatal mistake many college students make when considering what to major in is that they listen to highly successful people give that same advice thinking "oh well I sort of like psychology, not enough to read about it all the time or devote my life to it, but its pretty interesting compared to my calculus class :^)" because they forgot that that highly successful person was really, really interested in finance or just building a business for its own sake
IF YOU DO NOT HAVE A NEAR CONSTANT OBSESSION IN THAT SUBJECT, THEN SWITCH TO WHATEVER YOU THINK YOU CAN DO FOR THE MOST MONEY THATS TOLERABLE. I would strongly recommend anything thats math heavy/very practical (no a generic business degree is not practical, albeit it is better than just a bachelors in english or whatever)
>but you'll be miserable
unless you have some outstanding talent (such as being good at design, or being incredibly attractive or good at math) or obsession you are gonna be plagued by FOMO no matter what you do since you're gonna be forced to do something you don't care about for 8 hours a day minimum. Might as well get paid a comfortable amount at whatever stress level you can tolerate.
I personally know several people from wealthy (upper middle to middle class) families who got degrees in something like history or drama and are under an unreal amount of money stress
How the frick do you learn to code in less then a year, let alone score a position like that with such inexperience at it?
Because every story on fit is the same. Everyone either majors in engineering and work in FAANG or learns to code bullshits into a job and get 6 figure wfh no work job
Well, that’s simple, anon. He made it the frick up.
Does IT also have very little work to do? Depends on the job, obviously, but I heard maybe something in cybersecurity or maybe networking has very little actual work being done. I only ask because I can't code worth a damn, shit just doesn't make sense to me.
Can't speak for IT but I was in your shoes not too long ago. I couldn't code for shit but when you stare at it long enough eventually it begins to make sense.
My advice is to start with something relatively easy like SQL since all you're doing is arranging data. I also benefited a lot from studying code that my coworkers wrote line by line and understanding what each command was doing.
>too stupid for school
>too stupid for accounting
>makes six figures half assing a coding career
You ever wonder why most programs are terribly designed? I don't
Why isn't she wearing a mask? Very irresponsible.
This has to be fake.
>imagine how smug this sheboon is, making her white boys sing slave songs all day
Enslave you for Israel (aka the "military) white boi
I joined the Navy SEALS so they would pay for my sexual reassignment surgery and hormone treatments
You are going to die for Israel.
get paid to lift, run and shoot
>actually gets paid to get yelled at, wake up at random times in the night for no reason, burn big tubs of shit, and mop the driveway while it's raining
discipline and patriotism in you
>actually instills a deep resentment for whoever made you sign up, and whatever patriotism you had gets withered away
Nice try mister recruitment officer.
Hope it was worth fricking up your joints and spine to protect troons and the interests of foreign investors (they still don't care about you though).
Is the yelling necessary?
Has military training always been like this throughout the centuries?
Is this only US boot camp or do other countries do this?
When you go to a war zone, people are going to want to do worse than just yell at you.
If you can't handle the yelling you are ngmi as a soldier
(Which is fine, you shouldn't go die for them anyway)
I went through Infantry OSUT 13 years ago and they only really yelled at you the first 3 weeks.
I am deployed currently. All I do is run, swim, lift, go to the beach and go on five hour foot patrols like 3 days a week. Where im deployed is safe. Its the easiest job ever, free gym and free food, minimal distractions
Sorry, Shlomo. Not interested. Maybe you can be infantry instead of psy ops and fight Hamas yourself?
No amount of IDF girl posting can sway me - those girls are made for Prodigious Palestinian wieners.
oooooohhh Im... IM.... IM RECROOOOOOOOTIIIIINNNGG
OOOOHHHH IM GOING TO RECROOOOOOOT
>literally get paid to lift, run and shoot
Highly dependent on your rate/MOS. Plenty of shit in the military just has you be a glorified office worker with weird rituals and hours.
everyone gangsta until you have a 2 week field exercise where you live off mres and 4 hours of sleep and you lose your gains
being in infantry would be worse than being in an office lifting wise imo
even the korengal op had reliable internet and a kbr dfac. theres nothing hardass or difficult about modern war. quit pretending like yelling and putting on le serious anime face will stop an ied blast.
>dfac
>reliable or good
If you’re LUCKY dfacs serve these bigass prepared trays that are basically giant MREs and if you’re not lucky they use actual locally sourced food like at fort hood and die of food poisoning from undercooked chicken
seriously considering joining the reserve as an officer to pre-empt the draft. After seeing normal ukrainians conscripts get fed into the meat grinder, at least being able to choose your position you can avoid getting automatically assigned to the human wave battalions
I have shit eyesight and diagnosed ADHD and autism so I’m not worried about a draft.
pretty sure the glowies would take one look at my post history here and decide it's not a good idea to put me anywhere near a gun in a war I didn't want to fight
Shlomo's getting desperate it seems.
Propaganda machine just arrive
I've never met a veteran that wasn't a fat morally passive piece of shit human being apart from the scant few that were special forces and those guys are just train wrecks in waiting but driven people.
I’ve worked with a bunch of veterans as a firefighter but they range insanely in character. The marines I work with are driven but insane and will blow a gasket if you say anything they interpret the wrong way. Army dudes are anywhere on the spectrum. Air Force / navy bros are chill. Never worked with a coastie but I’d imagine they’re chill
is there a single cop or veteran who is able to hold a conversation and not talk about being a cop or veteran?
i think the answer is no
Honestly I work pretty closely with cops and a number of them don’t give a frick besides it being a good i.e. stable job. You get tons of nerds who get way too caught up in the “lifestyle” homosexualry but I and many others just show up to work and leave the nonsense at work once the uniform comes off. Again, this is from a fire/medic perspective.
I'm 37 and too old. I went into fine art and sales instead of getting shot at and addicted to painkillers.
>the left won't enlist because America is an evil colonizer state
>the right won't enlist because the military has become an anti-white troony parade
Is it unironically over the US government? No one is left to support them and they know people will resist a draft. The union might be ready to fall at last.
The US is definitely in a state of decline, but we're still decades away from seeing any of the real effects. As cliché of a point this is to make, the parallels between the decline of the US and the decline of the Roman empire (which obviously America's system of government was based on) are staggering. Getting involved in meaningless wars, losing said meaningless wars, an irreparable ideological divide between east and west, a rising power to the east, etc.
Again, it's going to take decades to see any sort of tangible impact the decline will have on American society. The people who act like there's going to be another civil war in the next 10 or 20 years in America are completely delusional. Americans are too content with their modern comfort to fight for anything, especially when it means potentially sacrificing that comfort. It's not until an entire generation of Americans have grown up truly impoverished, without knowing said comfort, that you'll start to see even the first stirrings of war. You can bet your ass the US government knows this and will do everything in their power to keep the masses content.
>Americans are too content with their modern comfort to fight for anything
The American population is currently experiencing the largest internal migration in living memory. Citizens are fleeing democrat areas in enormous numbers to escape poverty, crime, drugs, degeneracy, etc.. This is all happening concurrently with surging inflation and illegal immigration. Most on the right don't view the current government as legitimate, and people on the left don't value law and order in general. Add a heap of racial/class hatred to the mix and you have a recipe for disaster.
The military requires a constant flow of young blood to stay healthy and capable. It's not bleeding out in a generation- it's bleeding out now.
People still enlist in the US for the free stuff like college and health care
Gen Z males don't go to college, and if they do it's because they're black or brown and got free scholarships anyway. Young people also don't give a shit about healthcare since they think they're going to live forever.
The military alienated young white men (primary demographic) and appealing to non white young men has its own problems. Women in the military are a meme who go exclusively to get knocked up or get on disability.
big morons
the US is unironically the most well positioned country for the future by a humongous margin, let me explain
the US's boons
>over abundance of food
>over abundance of energy resources
>over abundance of almost all resources
>cheap rivers and water ways for moving goods
>friendly/weak neighbors/ocean access
>the premier spot for high quality talent pic related
>a government purposefully incapable of fricking it up unless an extreme series of coincidences occurs amongst several groups disincentivized to agree to frick it up
>is the ONLY developed nation to NOT have an inverted population pyramid (this is huge)
>law is unironically the supreme rule of the land
>no authoritarian government that can actually just frick up your money supply/drain yours
>actually has a history of diversity and a tradition of dealing with it unlike the rest of the developed world who are just now discovering that they HAVE to import brown people because industrialized/wealthy people do NOT reproduce
>is not going to get absolutely fricked if the US stops patrolling waters for defacto free since the US has its own navy
>stable economy/not war-torn or likely to be
>free press that can stop problems before they begin
Here are the things that WILL frick over pretty much every other country at some point in the future
>they have no tradition of dealing with diversity but find themselves FORCED to accept immigrants because their population demographics are fricked (EU outside of France, Germany is especially relevant here, China/SK/etc)
>they have poor energy resources (EU/Asia)
>they have poor food resources (ME/China (via fertilizer))
>their talent will leave for a better/more comfortable nation (India/ME/SE-Asia/China (requires more explanation, google "naked official"))
>have no navy 4 trade without the US (India/ME/SE-Asia/likely china but well see how that goes)
>have a government that could, at any time, frick everything up (ME/China/India)
>corruption (RU/CN/IN)
meant for
as well
I was going to respond properly, but so many things you said were completely false (like the US government not fricking up the money supply wtf) and you constantly complain about China that it feels like I'm talking to a US government employee.
low effort non-post/non argument, the absolute state of all doomers
What do you want me to say when you're just parroting Peter Zeihan, who also works for the government?
please give me instructions out of Colorado, I am lost
it would be nice to hear your opinion and the specific points that you disagree with and how so
and while many of those points do align with Zeihan, I've been a stratfor fan for awhile, I shared similar assessments before I started following him and poly-sci was a particular interest of mine back in college
Anon you are correct, but I can see where they are coming from too. The emphasis should be in the *most* part of "the most well positioned country for the future".
The fact that everything is declining doesn't mean thinking that any country in Europe/Asia has a better position isn't moronic.
As has already been stated, this post is so fricking wrong and moronic on so many levels that it's hard to even get started on it.
>stable economy
>rule of law is respected
>diversity is a strength
Good grief, this may be the most semitic post on IST today.
oh, another low effort non post, thats genuinely disappointing
I accept you concession, and please refer to post
for any further rebuttals that do not actually address the original post
at least you had a cool sopranos reaction image
terminally online morons overhype the troubles of recruiting for the US military, the main reasons behind these difficulties isn't "muh oil colonialism" nor "muh israelites and trannies", it's genuinely just shitty pay relative to work hours and negative press from people coming back home without legs n shit.
No better way to use your life and the talents you have acquired than to die for Israel
I kind of wish I went into the military after HS. Too late now, but I do wonder.
>it looks like a major conflict between Israel and several middle eastern states could be brewing
>US military shilling begins on IST
Really makes you ponder...
>boot camp is designed to inundate you to stress, moving quickly, and responding to orders and the boot boy mentality fades fast
>enlisted nutrition is awful because they’re reliant on dfacs with horrible food options if active duty
>most pogs and half the combat arms like armor have middling physical fitness at best
>only units with rockstar pt scores across the board also destroy long term health with moronic training plans
>stuff like ranger bat is horrendous for your longevity, ranger school cuts 11 months off your lifespan and the battalion intentionally maintains a tempo so high people can’t keep up so they leave and spread their knowledge elsewhere in the army
There’s plenty of reasons to join the army and fitness is not one of them
T. Weekend warrior officer
If the American army is just zogbots doing it for gibs. What about the British army?
Nah, kys recruiter.
>Learns nothing
>Becomes wellfare queer
>Dies for Israel
>Is hated by non cucks
>Forced to suck high ranking officer wiener
>Shitty salary
Trully bottomwit magnet
Army recruiters are desperate. Frick you homosexuals and frick Israel.
Brown
israeli
Cope. You will never be white or civilized.
>shills for zionism
>at least I'm "white!"
Disgusting
Depends on your MOS. Someone has to scrub the deck and clean out the bilges, i.e. the jobs that the navy routinely gives BUD/S dropouts, lol.
i was the biggest dyel in my life in the army.
You don't get paid to lift, you get paid to sit around all day and do shitty worthless exercises every morning until you're injured and CAN'T lift anymore
Jew
Not dying for Blackrock, ESG, DEI, lgbtqp+, Ukraine or isn'trael
I would join the military if I lived in like Austria or Switzerland, one of the non-vassal states.
>t. Russian shill
LMAO
Good luck enacting a draft in this political environment or whatever you need to pick up recruitment. Desperate times, etc.
Pack your bags, you ungrateful zoomillennial shits.
Our Greatest Ally needs boots on the ground.
>constant military shilling
not dying for you. not ushering in your era of false prophets. keep moving
I AM THE COSMIC REMINDER THAT YOU SHOULD TAKE YOUR MEDS
if you were looking for a reminder/sign, here it is!!!
all this bozos making excuses about fighting for muh gubment or muh israelites muh whatever lol
like any of the fricking pogs in here would see combat anyway
the military can be a great way to waste a few years in your youth. free shit, (potentially) exciting job that you won't be able to do anywhere else especially on someone else's dime. grils fricking love a man in uni too boys, jesus christ. USMC dress blues are chad-goggles for some bawds it's glorious. i went into the marines before grad school because i was getting older and couldn't go back afterwards. life is short boys, grab your balls and seize what you can.
>inb4 shill
whatever man
i had a dream a few months ago signalling that i should join the marines. how big of a problem will it be if i don't know how to swim and can't run a mile? i can do 1/2/3/4 tho
Swim isn't the biggest deal, they'll teach you but it will drag on and you'll be miserable. But 1/2/3/4 is not nearly as important as cardio in the service, particularly the Marines. Those dudes love to fricking run. Running in all weather, times of the day, drunk or sober, carrying logs or wearing vests, you gotta have good cardio.
Creative attempt, glowie. But still not good enough. Jizzrael isn't getting my support.
>sky rocketing suicide rate since the 70's
>everyone just ends up working a trade job anyone could get in half the time, no PTSD or permanent injuries
>power-tripping homosexuals that can't handle being reminded they are just regular people the moment they step off their precious military base
>orgies, swingers, prostiution rings, wife swapping and all sorts of weird shit happening on bases
>If anyone speaks up, someone higher up just fricks with them until they quit or snap and get discharged
>Literally every single ex-millitary/army/airforce/whatever person I have worked with was an insufferable c**t who needed constant reminders that their previous rank doesn't mean fricking anything in real-world jobs (Ex-millitary IT guys are the worst about this)
>Army wives are the most spiteful, bitter c**ts that do anything and everything they can to demoralize people because the let some high-ranking dude stuff her c**t
The enlistment rates are terrible for multiple reasons. DO NOT JOIN.
The glowBlack folk say everything's better than ever though!
It's all bullshit.
The strangest thing is all the "Don't commit suicide" flyers and posters. There are better ways to deal with that shit.
I was doing research on it. Trying to find new ways to implement some theories. Someone on my team snitched and fricked me over.
Which also reminds me. Army/Military bases are full of snitches, by the way.
>Trying to find new ways to implement some theories
What kind of theories? But yeah the government views soldier suicide as destruction of property.
>literally get told what to do by other men (usually old skinnyfat homosexuals
beta as frick
>fed the most miserable quality goyslop possible thats comfortable to mass produce
>train for cardio and endurance so you end up dyel as frick
>literally become property of the state, so not only can you legally be send to die, you're forced to take the vax too (but if you get a heart attack its literally just you dying for is- your country so its legal)
kek what an amazing career!
either be a mercenary or join the taliban, then you can talk of dignity.
>forces you to take experimental drugs that give you cancer and heart conditions
No thanks
People are so weird about the military, I assume it's mostly the younger crowd or the ACAB types. I did 6 years in the Navy and it was just normal dudes. We all hated it, nobody thought they were better then "civilians" and we thought the hero worship was cringe. We just wanted to workout and get drunk in the barracks. Do our time and get college paid for with some benefits or certs on the side. That's it. It was a fun time, got to travel around and I have cool pictures and stories to tell, no PTSD or missing limbs lol. You'll find maybe 2% of military are the buzzcut having, uptight "sir yes sir I love my country and my bible" types.
>joining the hispanic foreign legion to fight for israel
no thanks
You’d probably have better luck posting this thread on /lgbt/
Maybe 90 years ago. Now they put you in a pretty dress and let you frolic.
Do not enlist. Go to college and commission. Let the Hispanics and blacks enlist, and I say this as a black guy. They can use the structure, most white guys don't need this kind of heavy hand unless they are of the Appalachian stock.
COMMISSION. DO NOT ENLIST.
based knower
They almost got me bro, but I did my research. Enlisting is slavery, they don't even run by the same laws as regular citizens. As an officer you can actually get fired. Enlist and you're shit? Welcome to an even shittier more dumbed down IQ dredge MOS/AFC or whatever. Prepare to be the shittruck guy.
Officer? You have to compete and you need to know how to play the social/career game. It's a real job.
Now, if my future son wanted to join the military - I would tell his ass to only enlist in Space Force or Airforce and nothing else if he wanted to dodge debt. But nothing else, every other branch is trash as far as lifestyle.
Space force is underrated. It's probably just slightly more complicated cyber security work.
If you get into the actual cyber sec job in Space/Air force it's nothing but hids/hips logs all day and mabye solarwinds if the shop is up to date but it sets you up for a really nice gig outside of the military with your TS clearance. I lucked out, and the job I got payed for TS clearance for me upon hiring. SpaceF and AirF are legit paths in the military. If you want to kill people/drive tanks/drown then there are other branches for actual boot-brains but being a POG is where it's at.
But just to reiterate, COMMISSION DO NOT ENLIST. DON'T FRICKING ENLIST. COMMISSION, COMMISION, COMMISSION, COMMISSION.
Definitely not one where they take pride in sleep deprivation