Longevity or Gains?

The world's leading expert on decelerating and reversing aging, Dr. David Sinclair says to eat a primarily plant-based diet with limited meat and fish.

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    He prioritizes le longevity over performance. That was his argument when he says he takes metformin even though it reduces athletic performance. Also while he probably shares a lot of truth, he is a garden gnome and connected to world elites who want the best anti-aging techniques for themselves and everyone else to eat bugs, so I would think critically when watching him.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      KEK THATS HIS ACTUAL SECRET

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Wtf is that image.
    “Here take this novelty-size beaker filled with Gatorade and dump it on the floor while smirking at the camera like a comic book villain.”

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      you know what a beaker is but not a flask?

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    In general in biology there is a growth-longevity trade off. If you are purely trying to maximize longevity, you are going to be very suboptimal in many other metrics. So you need to consider for yourself what is your own tolerance for these trade offs. I would say for many they would prefer to live to be 80 with constantly good activity and function their whole life, than to live to be 100 but have moderate activity only until 40 and be extremely frail past 65. Building muscle, improving performance, or many other positive activities for function, include some sort of growth mechanism in the body which causes accelerated aging in some aspects, of course it can potentially fend off some other causes of death by making the body more durable (the human system is largely anti-fragile especially in our younger age), so this should also be considered if trying to maximize longevity. However there will always be a point where improved performance is detrimental to longevity.

    When we consider researchers working with the sole purpose to understand how to improve longevity, and which are maximizing for that, it shouldn’t be surprising to see them promote diets that are minimalistic, contain few calories, are nutrient dense, and won’t give you much energy (likely they will also include some fasting). However I feel to the average fitness hobbyist this is very counterintuitive to their goals, as people involved in fitness are not longevity maximizes but are often much more focused on improving the quality of life.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm stick thin and just starting out lifting. There is no point in living for me if I look like an auschwitz victim my whole life.
      So I'll get big, then I'll maximize for longevity.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You don't need meat for gains at all. There are plenty of pro athletes and olympians who are completely vegan. Disregard the carnivore cope.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Eating a vegan diet that is suitable for pro athletes and olympians will negate the general longevity benefits that are associated with other types of vegan diets. The “vegan diet” that is promoted for maximizing longevity is not
      just being a vegan, but it is a much more restrictive and includes many other eating behavior modifications. So it’s misleading to convince people to believe that there is an escape from the growth-longevity trade off solely through veganism, and not by including all the additional restrictions and eating behavior modifications.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Basically it's a sham diet for suckers, virtur signallers, and sadists.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          More so a lot of it is heavily pushed because of a subsegment if vocally loud peoples moral views. In general I find people put way too much weight into the “food selection” aspect of dieting, not to say it’s not important, but that often times when a diet is adopted because of some restrictions created it causes most people to adopt different eating behaviors as well, and these behaviors may actually be the prime mover the is improving their goals, much more so than the food selection. For example if you took a vegan athletes diet, and the typical “clean” athletes diet (chicken/fish, rice, vegetables) you would likely see no difference in outcomes (both general health, longevity, and performance). However if you are comparing a typical moderately active omnivore to a typical moderately active vegan we would see much greater differences in outcomes.

          People are too quick to cling onto their meme diets because they don’t want to develop a proper understanding of nutrition, and it’s easier to put simplistic constraints that for 90% of people will also cause eating behavior changes, this can be undesirable though as it likely diminishes your enjoyment of food. Most people want to find a balance between performance, longevity, and enjoying food, and this balance can easily be found by actually learning about nutrition instead of following a meme diet that may maximize one at the expense of the other two.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Pro athletes have the type of genetics that they could eat grass and still be elite. Even then many of them are forced to give up veganism for performance reasons

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >. There are plenty of pro athletes and olympians who are completely vegan

      Ill take steroids for 100 trebek.

      Lool if you want to be vegan and be muscular loke a pro athelete or one kf them vegan youtub fags you will need to be mirin.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm sure "Dr". ~~*Sinclair*~~ has lots of hard facts and crazy "new" ideas that end up aligning with globohomo.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I read his book, he's the worlds leading expert in grifting maybe. When he actually gets some significant human trials you can make this thread again, until then he literally writes like a snake oil salesman and there are many people in the field that criticize and outright disprove some of the shit he spews.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >the worlds leading expert in grifting maybe.
      he is in a bit of hot water because resveratrol is turning out to be a sham

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Doing exactly this is what made America crimminally obese. Pic relates was the "healthy" diet when i was a kid.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      nobody follows this shit, there are also recommended amounts of exercise a week but people would rather not move and eat garbage
      the core idea of the pyramid of eating complex carbs for most of your calories, fruits and vegetables with some meat, eggs and dairy is also very much correct

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This could actually make sense for back in the day when most people did manual labor and were like farmers and shit. Eat the dairy, meat, veggies, and fruit for your vitamins and minerals and all, but if you're out baling hay all day or whatever the fuck farmers do you're still burning a shit load of calories, so even when you've had your nutrient needs met you still need a ton more calories, thus the base of the pyramid being cheap caloric filler (though 2bh potatoes would be superior).

      What made America so obese is having absolutely everything loaded with high fructose corn syrup and shitty vegetable and seed oils often at least partially hydrogenated. Also people being conditioned to be lazy cunts.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nobody is getting vaccinated but you think they're religiously following this? I don't like it but if they followed it instead of eating bacon, packaged food and candy all day and moved around for once they wouldn't be fat.

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Gains are superior
    >be gigachad
    >impregnate 10 women
    >spread your genes and die at 60 from roiding heart damage

    or
    >be life maxxer
    >be DYEL
    >maybe have 1 child
    >die at 100

    Chad wins againa

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Checked
    >primarily plant based
    >limited meat and fish
    Ok so the american diet got it. Americans live the longest as we know. Diet consists of mostly wheat, corn, soi, potatoes and vegetable oils. Meats and cheeses are limited, and fish you can forget about. Very plant based.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Get built.
    Breed bitches.

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