I made a thread yesterday about machines being bad.
But it seems that was incorrect and outdated information.
So let's try this again, knowing the redpill now is to realize machines are actually good.
What are your favorite machines, IST? How and why do you incorporate them in your routine?
I am the machine
Machines are good becuase you can safely go to failure. Try going to failure when squatting or benching. You will be in danger. (The only exception is the legpress)
>don't lock out
>set your safeties
literally all risk mitigated from the leg press
>use safeties
>never in danger
Feels good not being moronic
Machines just give you more stability and are less fatiguing than their counterpart, full body movement. You can focus completely on the muscle and the movement instead of using resources on maintaining you technique.
I use them when im feeling too fatigued or when I have an injury.
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My fave is the exact one you posted.
>Different fly variations, superset with dumbbells or plate presses
>Different tricep / bicep angles
>Hit all parts of your back with different attachments
In b4
>but who was legs
It's the constant tension from the cables that I find effective. You can really target what you want to hit, frick it if it's lightweight.
Shit, forgot to add
>Different lat / front raises and rear delt movements
>Chest/Back fly
the weight is uniformed throughout the movement so it's better for overall development
>Side lateral raises
The weight is uniformed throughout the movement unlike a dumbell where you get the best activation as your arms are parallel to the floor
>Hip Bridge
Less awkward than a barbel and I can feel it better
>Leg curl
Hits the hamstrings in a nice way
>Wide bench press
Doesn't feel like I'm gonna frick up my shoulders
can someone give me a quick rundown on chest press vs bench press?
I started up the gym again after 5 years of sitting on my ass not doing nothing, (before that i was going 4 times a week). Found that my entire right site (which is meant to be my dominate side) was lop sided in strength, Tried to just use dumbbells but wasn't getting anywhere and just felt like I was doing damage not gains, Spoke to one of the fitness trainers who works with the doctors he said try the Cable Pulley isolation each side for chest press, and low and behold I've started to see progress and slowly my right side is starting to right itself, I dunno if i just had an unknown injury but doing Cable Pulley Isolation each side is working great,
Right now I'm starting to test free weights again and can tell the difference, trying to get the point where I can just ditch the Cable Pulley isolation and go back to a normal set.
in sort, I don't really see the stigma behind them, if it works for you then do it.
Machine: Safe, convenient, extremely easy to go to failure with, don't train stabilizer muscles/functional strength
Free weights: Train stabilizer muscles, functional strength, require perfect form and high levels of concentration, ups your mental game, higher risk of injury especially when maxing out
There's a reason why a lot of casual huge dudes exclusively use machines. It's much easier to isolate certain muscle groups + go to failure
>machines
>big muscles, no strength
>free weights
>big muscles, big strength
if you just want to look good, machines are good
if you want to get stronger, free weights mandatory
Midwit post.
I do both so frick you.
free weights have the most benefit to absolute beginners, because your spastic dyel body has to learn how to balance and exert force
machines are something you add on top of your barbell/DB lifts, or substitute when you already can lift non-pathetic weights
Anything with cables and a heavy enough stack can be used to train the whole upper body.
Today I warmed up on plate loaded vertical chest press, did my bench sets, then hit the pec dec after. Feel a lot better than my usual straight bench to db flys. I usually struggle to feel like I got a good chest workout. Too light on bb bench I don't feel fully activated, too heavy and I can't finish my sets or my shoulders start to take over. I'm thinking I need to burn it out a lot more with various machines and it feels pretty great. See how we go
all of them