Someone try convince that martial arts, in particular wrestling, isn't the single best form of fitness, if you only had one thing to choose
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Wrestling is gay.
Judo is cooler.
I do like judo but wrestling is less restrictive in techniques
Maybe at a high level but at the hobbyist level I don't think it's too bad
>wrestling is less restrictive in techniques
Wrestling's techniques are just shitty versions of Judo techniques. Judo takes what wrestling failed at and makes them 1000x better.
You can't even attack legs anymore, the jigoro Kano version of judo was based. And the catch wrestling version of wrestling was even more based
Based turn-of-20th-century grappling revivalist. It was a golden age of grappling.
I want to open a "gentleman's grappling and physical culture club". Kano's judo in the gi. Catch-as-catch-can for nogi. Shot-loaded globe barbells/dumbells for strength training. Mustaches mandatory.
Are you me?
Fair enough anon. Obviously striking is an essential aspect of fighting and you are doing nothing but handicapping yourself by neglecting it completely if your goal is to be a good fighter.
>you're probably just biased.
I am lol. I do believe grappling tends to be more important however as the grappler will win as soon as he gets a hold of you (see the predominance of wrestlers in MMA). Kneeing does change the game somewhat but a proficient grappler could get around that. Don't get me wrong, kickboxing/Muay Thai is an extremely effective martial art, especially if you cross-train in grappling enough to grasp the basics.
Honestly part of why I love wrestling is that it's almost a type of lifting. Where calisthenics is the mastery of your own bodyweight, and weightlifting is the mastery over a barbell, wrestling is the mastery of someone else's bodyweight. There is an emphasis on physicality in wrestling that is usually absent from many striking arts (due to meme about muh technique).
When I did judo I'd get an injury that would force me to take time off training every month basically
injuries
Wrestling/boxing is the ultimate battle against an opponent.
Weightlifting is the ultimate battle against yourself.
I need to get back into weightlifting, never got good enough technique to go real heavy
It's so much fun when you get the technique down, and can just start throwing heavy weights around.
You're literally out there by yourself in wrestling/boxing.
You need to overcome yourself mentally and beat an opponent physically & mentally in those sports.
Weightlifting is not comparable, I get your competing against other people if you're powerlifting / oly lifting but the two are so vastly different.
Anon, did you read my post?
Wrestling is the king of sports. Start running and doing your burpees now cuz it's gonna be rough
wrestling is by far the most gay sport.
this.
kickboxing, particularly muay thai is the best and least gay sport.
I can't think of anything less manly than a bunch of skinny DYEL 5'5" indochiners standing in a ring and throwing their toothpick limbs at eachother. What's worse is that you, as a White Man, are expected to wear their gaudy shorts and do their superstitious jungle rituals before a fight. I can at least understand the appeal in the mystical Far East if you're into aping some other culture, but then you have shit like Muay Thai and Capoeira. Really dude? You're gonna immerse yourself in the "culture" of fevala monkeys and filipinos-lite? Ok bro. Meanwhile wrestling is the Aryan ur-sport based on strongmen lifting other men and throwing them. Oh and it's the hardest sport by far. I guarantee you the average 11 year old doing wrestling is training harder than any Thaiman putting on shows for money.
>gay performative racism
people praise muay thai because it destroyed every other art and is as complete as striking can be, you don't shrink in size and change into a jungle-chink by practicing it, there were and are a lot of white fighters who went to live and train in thailand and turned into legends, it has frick all in common with capoeira.
No art that uses gloves can ever be complete in terms of striking, but that's besides the point. Striking is inherently feminine and looses to grappling 90% of the time. Given a grappler and striker of equal experience and physicality, that turns into 100%. Then there's the idol worship of the Thais and getting humbled by how le hecking hard they train, etc, etc. It's BJJ-tier tbh. Just because you like it doesn't make it not gay.
i understand what you mean by feminine striking and masculine grappling but i think thats subjective, it seems you're talking more about the culture and fans of it.
also grappling vs striking is more like 50/50, especially against any kickboxing style where they can knee and low kick, you're probably just biased.
i think calling the act of smashing eachothers face in with elbows and knees "effeminate" is pretty ridiculous, muay thai also has some clinching with sweeps and throws, i personally like some of the traditional aspects like how they go easy in the first rounds and go all out nothing held back in the last.
Muay Thai doesn’t destroy every other art though. No single art can destroy every other art. BJJ was doing well until the Gracie’s met Dan Severn.
My dude, I love all martial arts, but upholding the ladyboy capital of the universe as the "least gay" of anything is the pinnacle of irony.
>Someone try convince that martial arts, in particular wrestling, isn't the single best form of fitness
No, I don't think I will.
bjj mogs.
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Worst take ITT. Bjj is for injured 40+ tech gays. Submission wrestling is based however.
Submission wrestling is nogi jiu jitsu.
Just need to find a school that does nogi and likes the ADCC ruleset
OP, israelitetube sugested that video of your pic, right?
Also, wrestling is ok, i don't like that they do thqt homosexual pose. I like judo+jujitsu more. Jujitsu to finish someone who you don't wreck with an uchimata or drop seoinage.
Wisdom advice: it's not about the martial art, it's about the martial artist. All are more or less ok if you enjoy it and understand them
Ok,
>be me
>wrestler in HS
>trained bjj, judo, mt, and boxing later
>fight mma
>use wrestling techniques alot doing all of that, yes, even boxing
>still have to do calisthenics, lift, and run every day in conjunction with training
Fitness≠fighting and fighting≠fitness but fitness helps fighting.
Wrestling and Striking ( Muay Thai, or Boxing) are all you need.
Wrestling will push you to your absolute limits IF you're a competitive person. If you're lazy and just looking to get your HR up and have a good workout look into doing boxing or Muay thai with light sparring. Or gi BJJ.
(most striking academies are pussified for normies at this point)
If you're wrestling someone exchanging heavy collar ties for 3-4 minutes straight trying to get good positioning to set up a shot its a battle of grit and intelligence, couple that with a competitive I will not lose attitude and you will get the best cardio workout of your life from wrestling.
Some guys wrestle with no heart or effort and give up easily, its a tough sport but you learn so many valuable life lessons from it.
Once you wrestle (especially if at a high level)
every adversity in life seems easy to overcome in comparison.
As someone who did I would argue that squatting to true failure for high reps is harder.
As someone who competes at a high level in jiu jitsu and was once a powerlifter I can assure you a combat sport against another trained athlete is much harder.
Take a look at nogi it is free of all that bjj shit now