Martial arts

I'm interested in trying out Muay Thai. How can I identify a good gym? I don't want to accidentally sign up at a mcdojo, but I'm a total noob.

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Just go there and try it out

    McDojos typically are characterized by:
    - low to no intensity conditioning
    - lots and lots of different martial arts taught by some random dude
    - people don't go to tournaments
    - huge groups in a session, where you could do whatever and no one would notice
    - scrawny skinny fat members

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >does the coach have a record?
      >do they have any current fighters?
      >are the current fighters successful?
      Ez pz

      So they don’t do sparring or train active fighters?
      It is a McDojo
      If they do sparring and train active fighters then it’s legit

      Thanks for the tips, I tried looking into the coaches. Not finding much for the couple of local places... Can't find a fighting history for the one, and the other has just one pro fight (a loss). I guess if he got to the pro level, that's plenty for training a rank novice. I'll have to look into the gyms themselves as well, to see about competitions and stuff.

      literally just look at the building
      all the good ones are in sheds and mills

      hard werk
      bloody noses
      no music

      I believe you.

      start BJJ
      t. BJJ

      The gym in my town with the coach that did one pro fight also has BJJ (it's most of their classes), so I'll at least take a peek.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        If you're seppo check sherdog. They publish most fighter records and where fighters train in burgerstan

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        If you know BJJ and some basic judo throws/wrestling takedowns you will be able to squeeze most people into submission without really doing joint submissions or chokes.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Unless you get knocked out of course, BJJ doesn't make you good at striking or kicking, obviously. But for controlling people when you get a hold of them BJJ is king.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >But for controlling people when they're on the ground
            Fixed

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              well yea, that's why you learn some basic judo and wrestling stuff

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You seem to vastly underestimate the efficacy of a competitive muay thai clinch. Not only can you completely control an opponent, while striking them, you can also sweep most people at will. The kicker is it's actually even easier without gloves.

                Just have a look at some lerdsila or saenchai fights. Bearing in mind their gym tends to avoid clinching in general.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I know nothing about Muay Thai sir, i just know bjj, some basic judo and wrestling, and how well it works against people who aren't trained in grappling.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Tl;dr use plum to control their head (and thereby balance) while striking with knees and elbows. Tie up arms as needed. Sweep if they're unbalanced. Switch to bodylock and throw as desired.

                While i don't disagree that judo obviously has better takedowns and control of balance, it doesn't also do that while striking.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                lol i actually do something similar, i do an ankle pick while sitting, i hold the leg while standing up and then i kick the other one out from under them so they fall

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Tl;dr use plum to control their head (and thereby balance) while striking with knees and elbows. Tie up arms as needed. Sweep if they're unbalanced. Switch to bodylock and throw as desired.
                And get eaten alive by an actual grappler, yeah. DON'T use the Thai clinch against a grappler.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >does the coach have a record?
    >do they have any current fighters?
    >are the current fighters successful?
    Ez pz

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >mcdojo
    IST is scared of joining a mcdojo because they're afraid after years of training they'll still suck
    but unless you're #1 in the world it won't mean anything anyway
    even if you join the very best gym and train the hardest, unless you get #1 in the world you've wasted your time

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >even if you join the very best gym and train the hardest, unless you get #1 in the world you've wasted your time
      >why lift if you can't be the most jacked dude in the world
      >why make money if you can't be the richest man in the world
      >why shower if you can't be the cleanest person ever
      etc. you get the idea, you're being autistic

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    literally just look at the building
    all the good ones are in sheds and mills

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    start BJJ
    t. BJJ

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    So they don’t do sparring or train active fighters?
    It is a McDojo
    If they do sparring and train active fighters then it’s legit

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    hard werk
    bloody noses
    no music

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I don't think Muay Thai has this problem in the US the way that karate or most other East Asian styles do. But if you go to a gym and everybody there looks like they can beat the fuck out of you then you're in the right place.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I probably wouldn't train it unless I was in Thailand and even then a lot of the gyms over there are western run. I'd want Thais straight out on the jungle who can't speak a lick of English teaching me.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What a weird fucking thread. I remember making this exact thread a few weeks ago. Feels kinda freaky seeing some anon make the exact same thread.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Must be a glitch in the matrix.
      How did it work out for you? I've found two gyms in my town that have people with pro experience. One is mostly MMA focused, the other mostly BJJ. I'll probably look at the MMA one first.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I suggest boxing
        easier to find real gym
        don't think that just because someone does muay thai he can beat someone who does boxing

        I advise you not to
        bjj fucking sucks and is for gays and doing mma is a huge waste of time
        do boxing
        In Europe and America anybody in an mma gym or muay thai gym would get smoked by any amauter boxers

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Find a gym that has a trainer that has actually BEEN to Thailand and trained there before. It shouldn't be too hard. Just like how doctors have all their degrees and shit on the wall, the trainer should have their trophies and pictures of them in Thailand with their victories. Don't train under someone that hadn't been victorious in a tournament before. Ask him what gym. Go online and search for the gym. If you can find it, check reviews. If you can't, that might even be a good sign, as the most hardcore and traditional gyms in Thailand are hole in the wall shacks that train legends with dogshit equipment.

    Immediately when you walk in the gym, if you don't see a ring with ropes, punching bags, a wall timer, jump rope, and free weights, then go somewhere else. Look at the students. Do they look like bitches? Check for injuries such as bruises, cauliflower ear, and scrapes and cuts. If you don't see them then leave. Watch a sparring session with the trainer. He should move fluidly and be able to throw long knees, teeps, and round kicks just like he's walking. He should have done thousands of them in Thailand. Check to see if they're competing.

    Of course, if you want the straight dope you'll have to go to Thailand for that. Same thing though. McDojos are springing up like mad in Thailand due to the faraang invasion in the past few decades.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Thanks for the additional advice. Seems like there's a pretty easy trend in how to vet a coach/gym.
      I did more research on the coaches of the two local gyms. Looks like one is from Europe and did training/competing in Thailand in the late 90s or early 2000s, which explains why I couldn't find many US records. All he does is MT. The other guys seem to be all MMA, but they have a handful of pros and provide specific MT classes.
      I think I've done as much research as I can online. I'll have to go check out both gyms, but I suspect the one who's competed in Thailand will be the winner of the two. We'll see.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    only edgelords who think they have something to prove go into martial arts, also enjoy your parkinson by 50yo due to all the hits to your head

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's fun and good cardio though.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's fun and good cardio though.

      Don't listen to this idiot. First off, if you don't have anything to prove what does that say about you as a person? That you're completely satisfied with who you are and what you are? That's a fucking joke and a delusion.

      Everyone can get better and everyone should have something to prove, not to others necessarily, but to themselves for sure.

      Look at the most successful fucking people anywhere in life, they all have a chip on their shoulder at some level. They ignore the haters and let the results speak for themselves.

      Have a better version of yourself in your mind and then prove to yourself that you can attain it by going after it.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    guy? I’m 5’6. I’ve tried a couple of boxing sessions in the past, but never actually been in the ring against somebody

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Shorter dudes can be the most vicious because of speed. Don't get me wrong, all the champs at the heavy weight division are all 6'4 or taller. But Tyson went against plenty of tall guys with a reach advantage and made a clinic on how to take advantage of the speed and movement advantage shorter guys can have against an opponent.

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