Maturity is realizing that the cable machines are more optimal for hypertrophy and safety
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Maturity is realizing that the cable machines are more optimal for hypertrophy and safety
I agree. The more stability you have, the more you can focus on bringing the muscle as close as you can to absolute mechanical failure
Is that why my chest press lifts are so much higher than my bench press? Or are the numbers on the cable machine not accurate? I can do “225” on the chest press, but only 165 on bench
According to the labels at my gym I can do triceps pushdowns with way more than my own bodyweight without anything anchoring me to the floor.
I'v always wondered that, than I realized most machines are in lbs instead of kgs and I became dyel again.
Machines are designed to let you use as much weight as possible to soothe the egos of beginners and washed up boomers
There's nothing inherently natural or good about free weight exercises. A pushup is much closer to a chest machine exercise than to a barbell bench press.
Did you accidentally click the wrong post or are you a bot? Your post has nothing to do with what I said.
I think you might want to get tested for autism. The implication of your post is that free weights are superior, he challenged that assertion
they don't carry over
also has a positive effect on your power output so long as your body is stabilised
your body doesn't fancy exerting 100% power if you're unbalanced
The weights are not accurate, the load depends on the way the pulley system is set up, friction between cable and wheel etc.
yeah they are great because of the constant pressure, lateral raises on cable>dumbbell lateral raises
do both
They're for incels without spotters (me).
saftey, sure, but you aren't putting any work on your stabilizer muscles with machines.
Do we really need those though
If you want to put your flashy muscles to any real world use then yes
You must be one of those badasses who enjoy swinging kettlebells while standing on a bosu ball.
You don’t have to be Spider-Man, but everyone should be able to safely haul stuff or work heavy tools and machines won’t get you that
"heavy" tools are light as shit compared to the weights we're talking. You're DYEL if you can't bench 2pl8, a 100kg drill would be like something you attach to an excavator.
I only let myself start coming on here once I hit 2pl8. And even then a couple hours of hauling 50lb bags is tough as shit. Outside the gym if you ever need to lift something heavy it won’t have a neat path and safeties on it. Tbh I still use machines but just remember to vary it up
>I only let myself come on here once I hit 2pl8
this homie doesn’t even know he’s in the top 0.5% of people that regularly post here
the people joking about starting at 2pl8 or getting it after 3 months in the gym have gaslighted so much of this board into believing that they have shit genetics
Real world examples aren't as weirdly as gym equipment. Even if they're not as heavy, being bulky or having unevenly distributed weight can make it a challenge where balance and stabilization comes into play more than you might think.
just do some push ups every once in a while
here's better advice:
when you OHP you shrug
when you do push ups your scapula moves
when you do dips you shrug
so whose moronic idea was it it push down scapula when benching?
this alone is why people frick up their shoulders
SHRUG when benching and save your soul
congrats on overemphasizing your anterior delts and not your chest moron
post body
I don't want hypertrophy or safety.
Maturity is understanding that the machines are better for hypertrophy and using free weights for compound movements prepare you better to use strength outside of the gym.
>cable machines are more optimal
not necessarily.
Leverage machines that have a bias to the weighted stretch for back movements can be more optimal.
Optimal machines are the best of their kind.
Think nautilus pullover, panatta high row, med-x lat raise, nautilus super bicep, etc.
Beyond that, free weights are needed for optimal gains.
Just realize what you do in the gym makes you safer from random falls, accidents, or encounters with animals(any kind).
ok, and?