This eclipse was special and it has unified the white mans conscious with the subconscious, the higher with the lower.
The aurora borealis has fused with our heart chakras, the colour of the white race, a green/blue coming together.
(same as the bifrost bridge)
Our higher and our lower chakras are closer than theyve ever been, allowing our unification with Asgard.
If anyone wants to try learning how to meditate, now is the time to do it.
The auric fields is so strong that itll leave foreigners salivating with their brains close to melt from coming close to our Vril.
Ive witness an eclipse when I was a kiddo, watched it thru a darkened piece of glass, was cool but it didnt change my outlook.
Military service changed my outlook and made me disappointed in humanity, its like I became x2 conscious
>Military service changed my outlook and made me disappointed in humanity
Why? Military is where you usually see the best of the best in action and also meet most authentic and trustworthy men in your life.
Been thinking of taking on more ritualistic behavior. Planning on having a bonfire for the summer solstice and doing some stuff
Used to do a bunch of weird little ritualistic things when I was a kid and they made me feel better then
youre above thought in meditation, boring doesnt exist
the idea that you think its too boring to meditate is a sign that you need to meditate
dopamine addiction, the need for active stimulus
Focus on something (breath, candle, whatever, look it up) and stick to it for a given period of time.
When you notice your focus has drifted (hint: it always will, notice which way if you can), get back to it. You don't have to think about nothing as long as you don't get carried away.
Practice at least 20min a day for at least two weeks to start seeing changes (those changes have been proven visible by MRI).
youre above thought in meditation, boring doesnt exist
the idea that you think its too boring to meditate is a sign that you need to meditate
dopamine addiction, the need for active stimulus
Great posts.
Mediation is just a rest day for your mind. I'd rather work it out by doing something stimulating.
>Mediation is just a rest day for your mind.
Meditation is more like exercise for your brain, specifically the prefrontal cortex. You're working executive function. Stimulation engages other parts of the brain too much and interferes with the exercise.
The whole idea of energy and etheric bodies in that sense comes from Shamanism, which most cultures around the world practiced. Indians have just stuck to it, but the idea is universal.
Last time I was meditating I suddenly felt these huge surges of energy rush through my body from my legs/groin up through my chest and face, the first jolt literally made me jump out of my seat
I sat back down and let it continue, my body was shaking and convulsing
Anybody know what it would be?
Meditate? I spend all day every day thinking about how worthless and pathetic I am and barely get though days without committing suicide. I regularly wake up in the middle of the night and lie awake in the dark and silence thinking about how pathetic I am and how much I want to die
How the frick am I supposed to be able to meditate
If anything, meditation had helped me not taking unreasonable thoughts too seriously. >Oh, it's the story of 'I'm a failure' again >Oh it's the story of I'll kms again: this specific situation that triggered it is doing me no good >It's all so hopeless/there's no point/etc whatever >Shit I'm awake when I should be sleeping. I'm wasting my time, might as well meditate
We are more than the thoughts we engage in.
t.
Focus on something (breath, candle, whatever, look it up) and stick to it for a given period of time.
When you notice your focus has drifted (hint: it always will, notice which way if you can), get back to it. You don't have to think about nothing as long as you don't get carried away.
Practice at least 20min a day for at least two weeks to start seeing changes (those changes have been proven visible by MRI).
That's exactly why you SHOULD meditate, to see that these are just thoughts and not fact
Believe me I was in the exact same spot as you but if you can try for even 10 minutes a day it will help trust me
Somewhat unrelated, but I think gays shouldn’t be talking about 'muh disciplinemaxxing' while they’re still living at home. Maintaining discipline while living on your own, without a safety net, is a very different experience from that of an 18-year-old dork who read Marcus Aurelius' Meditations one time while mommy still does their laundry.
Adulthood is exhausting; I can barely keep on top of my diet and training while maintaining a healthy relationship and a career, let alone maintain some sort of spiritual/mindfulness practice.
Sure, it’s normal for young adults to try to ‘find themselves,’ but 95% of you will give up on that once your frontal lobe kicks in and rent is due.
You sound bitter. There's nothing wrong with a young adult to learn practices that benefit them now and in the future. By your same logic it wouldn't matter to learn anything as a child or teenager because it 'doesn't count'. You're lashing out because your life feels to hectic to incorporate meditation, so you disregard it as something childish to feel better about yourself. Just start with 10 minutes a day and go from there.
I used to meditate for 30 to 60 minutes twice per day as a late teen. Sure, I had some magical moments in this practice, but at the end of the day, you're either practicing 'McMindfulness' to cope with being a commodity in a spreadsheet or seeking enlightenment which leads to you sitting on a park bench unemployed.
I am very familiar with this space, I think it’s a fool’s errand for anyone to think it alone will fix their life. young adults need to have their believes tested with real world problems.
>but at the end of the day, you're either practicing 'McMindfulness' to cope with being a commodity in a spreadsheet or seeking enlightenment which leads to you sitting on a park bench unemployed
what are you talking about? you babble like an ignorant moron. one one hand, you imply that unemployment is bad, on the other, that employment is depressing. or am i missing something? what is your aim?
>I think it’s a fool’s errand for anyone to think it alone will fix their life
Projecting again, no one claimed meditation alone would fix someone's life. If I had to guess, you thought this at one point until you realized you had to put in the work in other areas of your life. Unbeknownst to you, becoming proficient at meditation helped hone your discipline which you were able to apply to other areas of your life. It's not a supplement, it's complimentary.
>somewhat unrelated = Side tangent.
The whole point is children aren’t qualified to discuss the subject of discipline because their life’s are too easy. Simple enough for you?
>I think it’s a fool’s errand for anyone to think it alone will fix their life
Projecting again, no one claimed meditation alone would fix someone's life. If I had to guess, you thought this at one point until you realized you had to put in the work in other areas of your life. Unbeknownst to you, becoming proficient at meditation helped hone your discipline which you were able to apply to other areas of your life. It's not a supplement, it's complimentary.
My high school years were spent reading Eckhart Tolle, David Deida, as well as a bunch of other "muh spiritualism" and 20th-century Western philosophy.
I've grown up with this stuff all my life; my father and uncle joined a Buddhist monastery and couldn't hack it.
I was doing dopamine fasts back in 2015; I was fully committed to the bit, and some people in high school started to believe my discipline/wisdom autism lol.
>Why would people lie on the internet?
I may be wrong, but the impression that you give is the same as the homosexuals in this board that say: >I trained hard and dieted correctly for years and still am a skinny fat blob, that's because blah blah blah....
It may bait some unaware noob, but for those that already walked the walk it's clear that you are either bullshiting for demoralization, or a literal moron that can't do anything right.
Just a hunch tho.
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Anonymous
The whole point of my tangent was that children aren’t qualified to discuss discipline. Adulthood is exhausting and sometimes hearing about how the Win Hoff method or mindfulness is a must is a tad patronising when an 18 y/o is saying it.
Do you disagree?
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Anonymous
Why feel bitter about youth being untested by life, they literally can't help being their age. If anything you should be happy that someone young is interested in mindfulness which can help them weather future storms.
People who have never meditated are missing out, the first couple of times you hit that sweet spot it’s euphoric and life affirming asf. Imo diminishing returns are a thing with meditation. Everyone should try it for at least a little so that they can “get it”. And some people just intuitively “get it” because of how they were raised. Yea.
Yeah and I also suspect some people are just genetically gifted with a very relaxed and imperturbable mind with no need to meditate. People like that may attempt to practice meditation but the process is so trivial for them they don't see why other people make such a big deal about it.
(that said, I think a lot of people who claim to find meditation "boring" aren't actually an uber-sentience but so far below they can't even meditate properly).
This might be my issue. My mom was into all this gay shit when I was young and got me to try it all, so when I tried it again as an adult it just felt boring. But in general life doesn't get to me as much as it seems to other people so who knows.
>where does "Nothing is okay,and that's not okay." or "Things are not okay,and that's not okay" go?
It's already implied.
Browns are literally the ones meditating you fricking moron. All that chakra bullshit stems from pajeets.
This is totally true however there are both Christian and pagan traditions of meditation in western cultures. Most had faded from mainstream secular consciousness when Buddhist mindfulness began gaining popularity but they still exist.
I do meditate, 45 min every day and have for a big chunk of my adult life, sometimes several hours
Most of the spiritual stuff is utter bunk but my meditation practice has been very valuable to me
It trains your ability to focus deeply for extended periods of time, which is very useful if you do anything intellectual as a profession
It becomes far easier to deal with negative/undesirable thoughts and emotions because you start becoming aware of them the moment they pop into existence and you can make a conscious choice whether to feed them or to let them pass away
It opens up a whole new world sexually, especially if your gf is also a serious meditator
And meditation has made me incredibly racist and misogynistic because it's allowed me to wake up to how many unconscious progtarded quasi-religious thought rituals I was programmed with in early childhood and to cast them aside
I wouldn’t even have the first clue how to meditate. I can’t even control my own life. I’m a complete loser in my early 30s and all I think about all day and all night is how much of a loser I am. No social relationships, no career, no skills, no ambition, no drive, 24/7 suicidal thoughts and having multiple panic attacks a day. How the hell am I supposed to meditate. It’s impossible.
The Mind Illuminated is a God-tier 100% secular instructor manual for awareness meditation
It's the only thing I used for the first two years of my practice
There are free PDFs available if you search the title
You only need to read the first two chapters to get started, and from then on you're just reading one additional chapter as you gain mastery over the skills in the previous material
But if your day-to-day life is really as hellish as you've described, you'll probably find it hard to make any progress until you've cleaned your room, washed your penis, etc.
I'm guessing your sleep habits are all screwed up and/or you're using drugs on a daily basis; fixing those two things at all costs ought to be your first priority
You approach it the same way you approach lifting. Do you immediately bench 2 plate? No, you warm up with the bar and put on weight until you meet the proper resistance, then you work up from there. Start with 10 minutes of focusing on your breath through your nose in and out. When thoughts come to your mind, and they will, bring your attention back to your breath. Doing this will give you more control over your thoughts. You will be able to detect a harmful thought trigger, the ones that get you worked up and thinking about negative things for 30 minutes, and end cast it aside before that happens.
The Mind Illuminated is a God-tier 100% secular instructor manual for awareness meditation
It's the only thing I used for the first two years of my practice
There are free PDFs available if you search the title
You only need to read the first two chapters to get started, and from then on you're just reading one additional chapter as you gain mastery over the skills in the previous material
But if your day-to-day life is really as hellish as you've described, you'll probably find it hard to make any progress until you've cleaned your room, washed your penis, etc.
I'm guessing your sleep habits are all screwed up and/or you're using drugs on a daily basis; fixing those two things at all costs ought to be your first priority
You approach it the same way you approach lifting. Do you immediately bench 2 plate? No, you warm up with the bar and put on weight until you meet the proper resistance, then you work up from there. Start with 10 minutes of focusing on your breath through your nose in and out. When thoughts come to your mind, and they will, bring your attention back to your breath. Doing this will give you more control over your thoughts. You will be able to detect a harmful thought trigger, the ones that get you worked up and thinking about negative things for 30 minutes, and end cast it aside before that happens.
When I was in my 20s (twenty years ago), I wasn't as bad as that anon having multiple panic attacks and shit, but I was very stressed out. I got a book (picrel) to do yoga and meditation after my workouts, and here's what I noticed.
1. The first few times, it took a LONG time to clear my head and get fully relaxed. The book told me to meditate in a sitting position but I had to use savasana-- basically just laying flat on the floor. It wasn't until I'd been still more more than 30 mintues, that my mind finally settled. If I'd stopped at any point before that, I might not have "gotten" it.
2. My breathing pattern would change several times as I tried to relax all my muscles. I'd start out at what felt like just "normal breathing" but would eventually escalate into a wim hof type hyperventilation (I did not know about wim hof at the time nor was I following any guides-- this just felt like the right way to relax my back muscles). Then settle I'd into very long slow breaths and total relaxation.
3. Posture and physical issues affect thoughts. Any kind of fidgeting and adjusting was immediately accompanied by mental wandering and stress. At times I viewed it as almost a backwards physical challenge. Instead of tensing and pushing my muscles to work, I was trying to relax every muscle as much as possible. This seemed like a twin benefit to me, freeing my mind while also giving my muscles a good, pure rest (especially when accompanied with good breathing, etc).
4. Meditation would often leave me with an urge to clean up and tidy my apartment.
5. Sleep quality improved dramatically.
I do have ADHD tendencies in personality, but have been evaluated by a psych and was not diagnosed with anything clinical.
Meditation can let you do a lot more than give you the drive to clean your room lol. You should read about people like Wang Liping (Daoist) or John Chang (Mohist). The greater purpose of the practice is to, in my opinion, have the adept practitioner show off what the school he is with can do, and as proof of concept for theories like ying and yang.
All the people complaining about it being religious mumbo jumbo don't really have an understanding on eastern philosophy and religion. Daoism for example started as a philosophy, and later turned into a religion. But essentially both forms of Daoism are separate. Daoists meditate as they see the importance of calming the mind to mitigate stress to aid in longevity. Not much of any religious reason as to why they meditate lol. Now, early on Daoists were some of the first in history to mesh scientific, philosophical, and religious ideas together. Because of this there are some that claim you can gain magic powers or immortality through the practices. But that comes mainly from the shamanic roots of Daoism combining with stuff like yin and yang theory, which comes from The Naturalists, another branch of philosophy in ancient China.
Also, they are many ways to meditate. Some people will just go to the dictionary, and say all you need to do is reflect to meditate. But that takes away from the purpose of the 'generic' full lotus position meditation everyone is familiar with. Just reflecting is much different from actually holding a pose for many hours while concentrating on the Lower Dantien and breathing rhythmically.
>Meditation can let you do a lot more than give you the drive to clean your room lol.
I know that and never claimed otherwise. Not sure why you are laughing about it.
>Meditation and working out are direct contradictions of each other. When you work out, you enslave yourself to the material world and the body, how can you then claim to be trying to obtain spirituality? No monk is muscular, a bulky physique is the result of excess and self-abuse.
Meditation has beneficial effects regardless of one's metaphysical beliefs or spiritual goals.
Clearing your mind is very hard anon. However, focusing on one thing, say a candle, or your breath is much much easier. Start with that, its like a training belt, then you can clear ur mind completely.
>try meditation a few times >once got some sort of high >never able to replicate
what the frick was that and how do i do it again?
Hard to say. Probably a glimpse of the higher realms. A peak behind the veil. Just keep going, daily practise is key. Eventually you get to the "beautiful breath", where every breath gives you bliss
I believe it's impossible, except in death. But I also believe that mental images, visual images and sensations are some kind of thoughts. They can't be stopped. They can be observed, though, without reacting to or getting carried away by.
The body and the mind are one and the same. Deep presence during weightlifting is in itself a meditation. Ditch the music, and feel the mind body connection. Guaranteed more gainz
Also, walking and running. Be present. Focus on the bodily sensations. It's actually easier to meditate while walking.
Because i'm not LARPing as a monk, I don't do psychedelics anymore, and I understand the inherent self defeat in intent to cease intention.
You want to pathologically decondition yourself, read a book on a subject you don't understand, or a book full of opinions you aren't likely to adopt for yourself.
>i.e. I grew out of it
Same here, anon. It's actually pretty ironic how much more effective a good book is at dramatically changing perspective than tripping was.
Tripping was interesting at best and self-destructive at worst, but it never gave me any valuable insight the same way getting back into literature did. I got memed bigtime into going down that rabbit hole in my late teens/early 20s.
Yeah, I'd expect as much from someone who genuinely believes tripping on acid somehow makes them the main character of the story kek. Ah well, I was the same way once. Enjoy it while it lasts, anon.
excuse me excuse meeee but when i meditate i start dreaming and i think of nice thoughts alot, when i try to bring my focus back to my breathe i sometimes realize i have just fallen asleep. Am i doing it wrong? please and thank you for replies sirs
Have you ever noticed that everyone seems to give different attributes to meditation?
Some say it's a rest for the brain. Others say that it's an exercise.
That is because there are hundreds, even thousands of individual meditations, each one with it's effects.
I'm gonna recommend that everyone that wants to get a good base in meditation go to /t/, download Dr. K's Guide to Mental Health, and study the meditation modules. You'll get a introduction that is approachable and in plain English, made by a guy that has trained to be a monk and is also a Harvard trained doctor. He is pretty clear on what is already backed by science and what is still not, if you are skeptical.
Also, always remember, if you are discussing meditation on IST be aware of the schizo that is always present in meditation threads, you can easily find him by noticing the "enlightened" posts that always fails to capitalize the first words of sentences. You can't press shift after reaching nirvana.
>begin meditating at work >big pressure building up head >pressure goes away slowly >skin begins to tingle and feels a lot like cumming >get scared and stop
I am not fricking around with that shit. I am not a fricking cumbrain anon. I couldn't even look my co-workers in the eye the rest of the day.
>go to meditation retreat >have a long history of mental illness so i figured frick it cant be any more worthless than pills, church, or therapy >teacher is a tiny ass asian woman, her head only comes to my stomache shes so short, assumed she was a kid at first shes so short and thin. >sit down, lotus, close eyes >she occasionally will plant her hand right in my hair and talk to make sure i havent fallen asleep >stupid shit like "your hair is shaggy, you didnt shave, your neck is to tight, you jump easily" >she sits in my lap and wraps my arms around her belly >instant erection pushing through my sweats and into her ass cheek >now instead of touching my hair she willl on occasion bop the back of her head into my chest to make sure im awake or shuffle her hips >every time she shuffles her hips i want to thrust, cant >feel like im going to cum >she stops >go back >this repeats forever >every muscle in my body is tight as frick >not even realizing she is trying to get me used to touching a woman without freaking the frick out >cum through my sweats onto her yoga pants >she knows instantly >makes me do it AGAIN the following day >it takes 3 days until she just tells me to relax and do what i want >rub her belly while i hold her, dont get in trouble, relax, ended up just playing with her hands, arms, and legs. >tried kissing her neck but got told no >was fun >came three times on her yoga pants >no longer jump or get anxiety when people touch me >do get an erection now however.
Anyway thats the story of how a 55 year old asian woman made me cum, i could of just gone to a rub and tug honestly. Would have been cheaper. I miss her
it was scary for me im not going to lie, obviously when i orgasmed yeah that shits terrifying because i just came on the woman whos teaching me to not be a swolen terrified pussy flexing hard as can be. But she would walk around me, touch my head, and i would just fricking flex so hard my collarbone popped loudly.
Im pretty sure she thought it was funny because she would put her hand as close to my cheek as possible so i would know it was there. I would flex hard thinking she was winding up to slap me and then she would just wait awhile. Then she moved to the other side and did it again. I was so stupid that i didnt think to ask her any questions until day 3 when she let me hold her hand. Just sat there in lotus like a statue
Ever since I've learned about Jung and active imagination I've been able to handle my anxiety so much better these days
Case in point I had a near miss on the road earlier today and I was almost about to spiral due to having past trauma from a previous accident, but I was able to talk myself back down to a grounded state and it feels good to practice self compassion when most of my life has been ruled by toxic shame.
stop looking at anxiety as a boner that needs continous repressive countermeasures.
you need to become your boner and realize that you are weak to its waves, your boner is ruling you.
find the root cause for the reason that its waves becomes more intense and practise adapting to make it natural to you.
dont take too big steps, your mental strength against your anxiety is the same as your joints in the beginner days at the gym.
the same way your joints needed patience and continous strain that allowed it to breach plateus of far heavier weights.
meditation should be used to mend mental fatique and lethargy, not to escape the reason youre overcome by your anxiety.
reinvent your mind to become its architect rather than its prisoner starting by building a foundation or the weight of the roof will collapse,
if youre constantly swept into the depths by the currents then its just a matter of time before you give up in the fear of swimming in it.
Unironically, I've been more at peace with myself ever since the eclipse. (Not a schizo, just telling it like it is)
This eclipse was special and it has unified the white mans conscious with the subconscious, the higher with the lower.
The aurora borealis has fused with our heart chakras, the colour of the white race, a green/blue coming together.
(same as the bifrost bridge)
Our higher and our lower chakras are closer than theyve ever been, allowing our unification with Asgard.
If anyone wants to try learning how to meditate, now is the time to do it.
The auric fields is so strong that itll leave foreigners salivating with their brains close to melt from coming close to our Vril.
im a shitskin roach and had the same, but nice try
that sounds very typical for typical people. you realized the universe is bigger than you.
Ive witness an eclipse when I was a kiddo, watched it thru a darkened piece of glass, was cool but it didnt change my outlook.
Military service changed my outlook and made me disappointed in humanity, its like I became x2 conscious
>Military service changed my outlook and made me disappointed in humanity
Why? Military is where you usually see the best of the best in action and also meet most authentic and trustworthy men in your life.
Been thinking of taking on more ritualistic behavior. Planning on having a bonfire for the summer solstice and doing some stuff
Used to do a bunch of weird little ritualistic things when I was a kid and they made me feel better then
Ive been meditating for like the past 10 years every morning for 20 minutes.
But I still have problems I have to deal with like everyone else
that's pretty impressive
I'm sure you are far less likely to react to shit than the average anon
It's a bit boring ngl
That's the point
youre above thought in meditation, boring doesnt exist
the idea that you think its too boring to meditate is a sign that you need to meditate
dopamine addiction, the need for active stimulus
It's not boring: if you were meditating, you'd notice impatience.
any advice on how to do it?
your active self is weaker
too many emotions
too many thoughts
too many sounds
too many worries
become nothing
become the center
become racist
Master Black Hole reporting in
Reporting in, channeling my Vril
Focus on something (breath, candle, whatever, look it up) and stick to it for a given period of time.
When you notice your focus has drifted (hint: it always will, notice which way if you can), get back to it. You don't have to think about nothing as long as you don't get carried away.
Practice at least 20min a day for at least two weeks to start seeing changes (those changes have been proven visible by MRI).
Great posts.
>Mediation is just a rest day for your mind.
Meditation is more like exercise for your brain, specifically the prefrontal cortex. You're working executive function. Stimulation engages other parts of the brain too much and interferes with the exercise.
Stillness.
Because its just pseudo intellectual, religious mumbo jumbo bullshit.
brown fingers detected, burn him with your vril
Browns are literally the ones meditating you fricking moron. All that chakra bullshit stems from pajeets.
brown hands coping over not having invented a single thing through history
browns dont have vril, your chakras are empty or full of poo
The whole idea of energy and etheric bodies in that sense comes from Shamanism, which most cultures around the world practiced. Indians have just stuck to it, but the idea is universal.
Mediation is just a rest day for your mind. I'd rather work it out by doing something stimulating.
i meditate during as frequently as possible
meditation is simply conscious thinking
it is the key to victory
think = win
unless it's some monroe institute shit, i aint interested
Last time I was meditating I suddenly felt these huge surges of energy rush through my body from my legs/groin up through my chest and face, the first jolt literally made me jump out of my seat
I sat back down and let it continue, my body was shaking and convulsing
Anybody know what it would be?
White man felt the Vril for the first time
Kriyas??
its called kundalini awakening
I'm not sure it was, I have no lasting effect/benefit from it unfortunately
It did feel like a moment that things were radically changing
Meditate? I spend all day every day thinking about how worthless and pathetic I am and barely get though days without committing suicide. I regularly wake up in the middle of the night and lie awake in the dark and silence thinking about how pathetic I am and how much I want to die
How the frick am I supposed to be able to meditate
Simply don't listen to those thoughts.
If anything, meditation had helped me not taking unreasonable thoughts too seriously.
>Oh, it's the story of 'I'm a failure' again
>Oh it's the story of I'll kms again: this specific situation that triggered it is doing me no good
>It's all so hopeless/there's no point/etc whatever
>Shit I'm awake when I should be sleeping. I'm wasting my time, might as well meditate
We are more than the thoughts we engage in.
t.
That's exactly why you SHOULD meditate, to see that these are just thoughts and not fact
Believe me I was in the exact same spot as you but if you can try for even 10 minutes a day it will help trust me
Easyist meditation https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7H0FKzeuVVs&t=24s&pp=ygUKeW9nYSBuaWRyYQ%3D%3D
Somewhat unrelated, but I think gays shouldn’t be talking about 'muh disciplinemaxxing' while they’re still living at home. Maintaining discipline while living on your own, without a safety net, is a very different experience from that of an 18-year-old dork who read Marcus Aurelius' Meditations one time while mommy still does their laundry.
Adulthood is exhausting; I can barely keep on top of my diet and training while maintaining a healthy relationship and a career, let alone maintain some sort of spiritual/mindfulness practice.
Sure, it’s normal for young adults to try to ‘find themselves,’ but 95% of you will give up on that once your frontal lobe kicks in and rent is due.
You sound bitter. There's nothing wrong with a young adult to learn practices that benefit them now and in the future. By your same logic it wouldn't matter to learn anything as a child or teenager because it 'doesn't count'. You're lashing out because your life feels to hectic to incorporate meditation, so you disregard it as something childish to feel better about yourself. Just start with 10 minutes a day and go from there.
I used to meditate for 30 to 60 minutes twice per day as a late teen. Sure, I had some magical moments in this practice, but at the end of the day, you're either practicing 'McMindfulness' to cope with being a commodity in a spreadsheet or seeking enlightenment which leads to you sitting on a park bench unemployed.
I am very familiar with this space, I think it’s a fool’s errand for anyone to think it alone will fix their life. young adults need to have their believes tested with real world problems.
>but at the end of the day, you're either practicing 'McMindfulness' to cope with being a commodity in a spreadsheet or seeking enlightenment which leads to you sitting on a park bench unemployed
what are you talking about? you babble like an ignorant moron. one one hand, you imply that unemployment is bad, on the other, that employment is depressing. or am i missing something? what is your aim?
>somewhat unrelated = Side tangent.
The whole point is children aren’t qualified to discuss the subject of discipline because their life’s are too easy. Simple enough for you?
>I think it’s a fool’s errand for anyone to think it alone will fix their life
Projecting again, no one claimed meditation alone would fix someone's life. If I had to guess, you thought this at one point until you realized you had to put in the work in other areas of your life. Unbeknownst to you, becoming proficient at meditation helped hone your discipline which you were able to apply to other areas of your life. It's not a supplement, it's complimentary.
>I used to meditate for 30 to 60 minutes twice per day as a late teen
doubt [x]
maybe for a week lmao
Why would I lie about that?
My high school years were spent reading Eckhart Tolle, David Deida, as well as a bunch of other "muh spiritualism" and 20th-century Western philosophy.
I've grown up with this stuff all my life; my father and uncle joined a Buddhist monastery and couldn't hack it.
I was doing dopamine fasts back in 2015; I was fully committed to the bit, and some people in high school started to believe my discipline/wisdom autism lol.
>Why would people lie on the internet?
I may be wrong, but the impression that you give is the same as the homosexuals in this board that say:
>I trained hard and dieted correctly for years and still am a skinny fat blob, that's because blah blah blah....
It may bait some unaware noob, but for those that already walked the walk it's clear that you are either bullshiting for demoralization, or a literal moron that can't do anything right.
Just a hunch tho.
The whole point of my tangent was that children aren’t qualified to discuss discipline. Adulthood is exhausting and sometimes hearing about how the Win Hoff method or mindfulness is a must is a tad patronising when an 18 y/o is saying it.
Do you disagree?
Why feel bitter about youth being untested by life, they literally can't help being their age. If anything you should be happy that someone young is interested in mindfulness which can help them weather future storms.
Its a meme, the reason why people thinks it does anything because they believe it will, its just a placebo effect
People who have never meditated are missing out, the first couple of times you hit that sweet spot it’s euphoric and life affirming asf. Imo diminishing returns are a thing with meditation. Everyone should try it for at least a little so that they can “get it”. And some people just intuitively “get it” because of how they were raised. Yea.
Yeah and I also suspect some people are just genetically gifted with a very relaxed and imperturbable mind with no need to meditate. People like that may attempt to practice meditation but the process is so trivial for them they don't see why other people make such a big deal about it.
(that said, I think a lot of people who claim to find meditation "boring" aren't actually an uber-sentience but so far below they can't even meditate properly).
This might be my issue. My mom was into all this gay shit when I was young and got me to try it all, so when I tried it again as an adult it just felt boring. But in general life doesn't get to me as much as it seems to other people so who knows.
where does "Nothing is okay,and that's not okay." or "Things are not okay,and that's not okay" go?
>where does "Nothing is okay,and that's not okay." or "Things are not okay,and that's not okay" go?
It's already implied.
This is totally true however there are both Christian and pagan traditions of meditation in western cultures. Most had faded from mainstream secular consciousness when Buddhist mindfulness began gaining popularity but they still exist.
That's the redpill
Interesting that blue pill and ascended are identical. Almost like smart people are right and we're morons. Fricking israeli shil..
didn't mean the first two parts to be greentexts
I do meditate, 45 min every day and have for a big chunk of my adult life, sometimes several hours
Most of the spiritual stuff is utter bunk but my meditation practice has been very valuable to me
It trains your ability to focus deeply for extended periods of time, which is very useful if you do anything intellectual as a profession
It becomes far easier to deal with negative/undesirable thoughts and emotions because you start becoming aware of them the moment they pop into existence and you can make a conscious choice whether to feed them or to let them pass away
It opens up a whole new world sexually, especially if your gf is also a serious meditator
And meditation has made me incredibly racist and misogynistic because it's allowed me to wake up to how many unconscious progtarded quasi-religious thought rituals I was programmed with in early childhood and to cast them aside
>It opens up a whole new world sexually
Reality likes it when you play "hard to get".
I need to meditate.
I believe consciousness is fundamental and our physical reality flows from thought. I want to tap into the power of my mind.
I wouldn’t even have the first clue how to meditate. I can’t even control my own life. I’m a complete loser in my early 30s and all I think about all day and all night is how much of a loser I am. No social relationships, no career, no skills, no ambition, no drive, 24/7 suicidal thoughts and having multiple panic attacks a day. How the hell am I supposed to meditate. It’s impossible.
The Mind Illuminated is a God-tier 100% secular instructor manual for awareness meditation
It's the only thing I used for the first two years of my practice
There are free PDFs available if you search the title
You only need to read the first two chapters to get started, and from then on you're just reading one additional chapter as you gain mastery over the skills in the previous material
But if your day-to-day life is really as hellish as you've described, you'll probably find it hard to make any progress until you've cleaned your room, washed your penis, etc.
I'm guessing your sleep habits are all screwed up and/or you're using drugs on a daily basis; fixing those two things at all costs ought to be your first priority
You approach it the same way you approach lifting. Do you immediately bench 2 plate? No, you warm up with the bar and put on weight until you meet the proper resistance, then you work up from there. Start with 10 minutes of focusing on your breath through your nose in and out. When thoughts come to your mind, and they will, bring your attention back to your breath. Doing this will give you more control over your thoughts. You will be able to detect a harmful thought trigger, the ones that get you worked up and thinking about negative things for 30 minutes, and end cast it aside before that happens.
When I was in my 20s (twenty years ago), I wasn't as bad as that anon having multiple panic attacks and shit, but I was very stressed out. I got a book (picrel) to do yoga and meditation after my workouts, and here's what I noticed.
1. The first few times, it took a LONG time to clear my head and get fully relaxed. The book told me to meditate in a sitting position but I had to use savasana-- basically just laying flat on the floor. It wasn't until I'd been still more more than 30 mintues, that my mind finally settled. If I'd stopped at any point before that, I might not have "gotten" it.
2. My breathing pattern would change several times as I tried to relax all my muscles. I'd start out at what felt like just "normal breathing" but would eventually escalate into a wim hof type hyperventilation (I did not know about wim hof at the time nor was I following any guides-- this just felt like the right way to relax my back muscles). Then settle I'd into very long slow breaths and total relaxation.
3. Posture and physical issues affect thoughts. Any kind of fidgeting and adjusting was immediately accompanied by mental wandering and stress. At times I viewed it as almost a backwards physical challenge. Instead of tensing and pushing my muscles to work, I was trying to relax every muscle as much as possible. This seemed like a twin benefit to me, freeing my mind while also giving my muscles a good, pure rest (especially when accompanied with good breathing, etc).
4. Meditation would often leave me with an urge to clean up and tidy my apartment.
5. Sleep quality improved dramatically.
I do have ADHD tendencies in personality, but have been evaluated by a psych and was not diagnosed with anything clinical.
Meditation can let you do a lot more than give you the drive to clean your room lol. You should read about people like Wang Liping (Daoist) or John Chang (Mohist). The greater purpose of the practice is to, in my opinion, have the adept practitioner show off what the school he is with can do, and as proof of concept for theories like ying and yang.
All the people complaining about it being religious mumbo jumbo don't really have an understanding on eastern philosophy and religion. Daoism for example started as a philosophy, and later turned into a religion. But essentially both forms of Daoism are separate. Daoists meditate as they see the importance of calming the mind to mitigate stress to aid in longevity. Not much of any religious reason as to why they meditate lol. Now, early on Daoists were some of the first in history to mesh scientific, philosophical, and religious ideas together. Because of this there are some that claim you can gain magic powers or immortality through the practices. But that comes mainly from the shamanic roots of Daoism combining with stuff like yin and yang theory, which comes from The Naturalists, another branch of philosophy in ancient China.
Also, they are many ways to meditate. Some people will just go to the dictionary, and say all you need to do is reflect to meditate. But that takes away from the purpose of the 'generic' full lotus position meditation everyone is familiar with. Just reflecting is much different from actually holding a pose for many hours while concentrating on the Lower Dantien and breathing rhythmically.
>Meditation can let you do a lot more than give you the drive to clean your room lol.
I know that and never claimed otherwise. Not sure why you are laughing about it.
I do occasionaly with ear plugs and sleep mask, quite relaxing
I don't have too much time at my disposal. I rather read with the time that I have left for me
Cut 30 mins of phone time and use it for meditation
Everybody I know says they have no time yet spend hours a day on Netflix/Instagram/tik tok/omegle
>Meditation and working out are direct contradictions of each other. When you work out, you enslave yourself to the material world and the body, how can you then claim to be trying to obtain spirituality? No monk is muscular, a bulky physique is the result of excess and self-abuse.
Meditation has beneficial effects regardless of one's metaphysical beliefs or spiritual goals.
How many of you can completely clear your minds for more than 15 mins? I'm curious.
I've tried a few times, and it is incredibly difficult (as in, I can't do it).
Meditation is hard as frick.
Clearing your mind is very hard anon. However, focusing on one thing, say a candle, or your breath is much much easier. Start with that, its like a training belt, then you can clear ur mind completely.
Hard to say. Probably a glimpse of the higher realms. A peak behind the veil. Just keep going, daily practise is key. Eventually you get to the "beautiful breath", where every breath gives you bliss
I've gotten around 3 hours multiple times. Even controlled my heart rate during one session. It's not that hard.
I believe it's impossible, except in death. But I also believe that mental images, visual images and sensations are some kind of thoughts. They can't be stopped. They can be observed, though, without reacting to or getting carried away by.
>try meditation a few times
>once got some sort of high
>never able to replicate
what the frick was that and how do i do it again?
I used to be able to do that too when I was younger. No idea how the frick to do it now.
The body and the mind are one and the same. Deep presence during weightlifting is in itself a meditation. Ditch the music, and feel the mind body connection. Guaranteed more gainz
Also, walking and running. Be present. Focus on the bodily sensations. It's actually easier to meditate while walking.
Ditch your gay airpods
if you can't hold full lotus for 30 minutes then you don't meditate.
Because i'm not LARPing as a monk, I don't do psychedelics anymore, and I understand the inherent self defeat in intent to cease intention.
You want to pathologically decondition yourself, read a book on a subject you don't understand, or a book full of opinions you aren't likely to adopt for yourself.
>i.e. I grew out of it
Same here, anon. It's actually pretty ironic how much more effective a good book is at dramatically changing perspective than tripping was.
Tripping was interesting at best and self-destructive at worst, but it never gave me any valuable insight the same way getting back into literature did. I got memed bigtime into going down that rabbit hole in my late teens/early 20s.
You sound like an NPC
Yeah, I'd expect as much from someone who genuinely believes tripping on acid somehow makes them the main character of the story kek. Ah well, I was the same way once. Enjoy it while it lasts, anon.
excuse me excuse meeee but when i meditate i start dreaming and i think of nice thoughts alot, when i try to bring my focus back to my breathe i sometimes realize i have just fallen asleep. Am i doing it wrong? please and thank you for replies sirs
am Korean, all meditation is: breathing and listening to yourself breathe
how stupid do you have to be to not be able to think deeply without this
>Korean
Opinion disregarded
I have trouble believing it's real
What was the longest meditation sesión you had?
How did you feel after?
The spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak.
Have you ever noticed that everyone seems to give different attributes to meditation?
Some say it's a rest for the brain. Others say that it's an exercise.
That is because there are hundreds, even thousands of individual meditations, each one with it's effects.
I'm gonna recommend that everyone that wants to get a good base in meditation go to /t/, download Dr. K's Guide to Mental Health, and study the meditation modules. You'll get a introduction that is approachable and in plain English, made by a guy that has trained to be a monk and is also a Harvard trained doctor. He is pretty clear on what is already backed by science and what is still not, if you are skeptical.
Also, always remember, if you are discussing meditation on IST be aware of the schizo that is always present in meditation threads, you can easily find him by noticing the "enlightened" posts that always fails to capitalize the first words of sentences. You can't press shift after reaching nirvana.
maybe you're the one projecting illusions through your own delusions. learn to release the ego; it'll do you a world of good. bon jovi.
While we are talking about meditation, how do you channel your hornyness into something productive? Do I have to meditate to break the horny cycle?
Muladhara meditation.
>begin meditating at work
>big pressure building up head
>pressure goes away slowly
>skin begins to tingle and feels a lot like cumming
>get scared and stop
I am not fricking around with that shit. I am not a fricking cumbrain anon. I couldn't even look my co-workers in the eye the rest of the day.
>go to meditation retreat
>have a long history of mental illness so i figured frick it cant be any more worthless than pills, church, or therapy
>teacher is a tiny ass asian woman, her head only comes to my stomache shes so short, assumed she was a kid at first shes so short and thin.
>sit down, lotus, close eyes
>she occasionally will plant her hand right in my hair and talk to make sure i havent fallen asleep
>stupid shit like "your hair is shaggy, you didnt shave, your neck is to tight, you jump easily"
>she sits in my lap and wraps my arms around her belly
>instant erection pushing through my sweats and into her ass cheek
>now instead of touching my hair she willl on occasion bop the back of her head into my chest to make sure im awake or shuffle her hips
>every time she shuffles her hips i want to thrust, cant
>feel like im going to cum
>she stops
>go back
>this repeats forever
>every muscle in my body is tight as frick
>not even realizing she is trying to get me used to touching a woman without freaking the frick out
>cum through my sweats onto her yoga pants
>she knows instantly
>makes me do it AGAIN the following day
>it takes 3 days until she just tells me to relax and do what i want
>rub her belly while i hold her, dont get in trouble, relax, ended up just playing with her hands, arms, and legs.
>tried kissing her neck but got told no
>was fun
>came three times on her yoga pants
>no longer jump or get anxiety when people touch me
>do get an erection now however.
Anyway thats the story of how a 55 year old asian woman made me cum, i could of just gone to a rub and tug honestly. Would have been cheaper. I miss her
what the frick did I just read
>DAYX
holy shit,better than smuts
Now that's meditation.
id meditate like that
actually cool experience lmao
it was scary for me im not going to lie, obviously when i orgasmed yeah that shits terrifying because i just came on the woman whos teaching me to not be a swolen terrified pussy flexing hard as can be. But she would walk around me, touch my head, and i would just fricking flex so hard my collarbone popped loudly.
Im pretty sure she thought it was funny because she would put her hand as close to my cheek as possible so i would know it was there. I would flex hard thinking she was winding up to slap me and then she would just wait awhile. Then she moved to the other side and did it again. I was so stupid that i didnt think to ask her any questions until day 3 when she let me hold her hand. Just sat there in lotus like a statue
>gets sexually assaulted by some 55 granny
>is so sexually deprived that they liked it
you need therapy and meds anon
Any meditation technique to power up my libido and make me a sex god?
Screaming in the mirror
Reminder that Shakyamuni was a DYEL and Budai was obese
Ever since I've learned about Jung and active imagination I've been able to handle my anxiety so much better these days
Case in point I had a near miss on the road earlier today and I was almost about to spiral due to having past trauma from a previous accident, but I was able to talk myself back down to a grounded state and it feels good to practice self compassion when most of my life has been ruled by toxic shame.
stop looking at anxiety as a boner that needs continous repressive countermeasures.
you need to become your boner and realize that you are weak to its waves, your boner is ruling you.
find the root cause for the reason that its waves becomes more intense and practise adapting to make it natural to you.
dont take too big steps, your mental strength against your anxiety is the same as your joints in the beginner days at the gym.
the same way your joints needed patience and continous strain that allowed it to breach plateus of far heavier weights.
meditation should be used to mend mental fatique and lethargy, not to escape the reason youre overcome by your anxiety.
reinvent your mind to become its architect rather than its prisoner starting by building a foundation or the weight of the roof will collapse,
if youre constantly swept into the depths by the currents then its just a matter of time before you give up in the fear of swimming in it.