SSRIs. Anyone take these things? My doctor prescribed them to me 5 months ago and I didn't take them. Should I? Fear, anxiety, depression. I work out, eat well, go to therapy, eat pussy and meditate already
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SSRIs. Anyone take these things? My doctor prescribed them to me 5 months ago and I didn't take them. Should I? Fear, anxiety, depression. I work out, eat well, go to therapy, eat pussy and meditate already
Well, do you actually have anxiety and depression? SSRIs are the equivalent of chemo, ie it nukes the entire problematic area to shit for the sake of living another day. It's a last ditch effort when the only other option is dying (or killing yourself). The way ssris work (and how hard they're pushed by doctors) in general is moronic and reeks of israeli greed tbh but that's besides the point. So if you'd literally rather than die get up from your own bed, take em. If not, there are much better solutions with much less side effects.
i'm on citalopram and it mainly fixed my sleep, the rest (energy levels, anxiety) followed
muh conspiracy theory
>conspiracy
Mindless moron
what makes SSRIs so much worse than similar drugs such as dopamine reuptake inhibitors and norepinephrine reuptake inhibitors?
they're all in the same bucket. if you start stacking or yo-yo-ing or megadosing these compounds you can fry your neurotransmitter regulation. the people who prescribe these things don't give a shit about you, so it's up to you to be very careful about the process you subscribe to.
you can try just taking gaba daily to see if it causes any improvement. it does increase gaba stores, and perhaps move on to other products if needed. you certainly need lots of gaba for inhibitory neurons so that you can be clear headed and not so subject to unwanted internal and external influence. it's one of the things that separates human and animal neurology.
While most GABA is in the gut, straight GABA supplements can not pass the blood brain barrier. A pharmaceutical is stronger, like Baclofen
that's just based on its chemical profile. BBB has GABA transporters
I escaped suicidal depression without any meds. I don't recommend using SSRIs at all. They turn you zombie mode, which is only useful if you want to be a mindless drone for the rest of your life. Diet and lifestyle changes are always better.
>I escaped suicidal depression without any meds.
Then how do you know how the meds turn you into a zombie?
Did you mean you took them, then stopped taking them, then got better afterwards? Because, think, mate, that means they worked.
Actual moron. I took meds a decade ago for months, felt like a zombie, quit cold turkey, instantly felt alive again. Then years later, finally sorted my personal shit out (without the help of the pharmajew) and am now functional. Are you being wilfully obtuse, or are you really so brain-damaged you don't understand how time and causality work? Like, do you actually think you're making a compelling argument here by acting like you don't understand how time works? Utterly baffling.
>was depressed
>took meds
>felt better
Hmm...
To add:
Many such cases.
I wonder why it never works like this way if they don't ever take the meds to begin with.
I have to ask: have you been lobotomized? Because you argue like someone without a prefrontal cortex.
Shut the frick up. I have been on various ones and you c**ts scared me about it and there was no fricking change in my T levels. They fricking increased after from actualky being able to lift and not be a sad frick. I was at 600 and boosted to 900 after. Shut the frick up. Also it’s great for lasting longer. At least I’m back to myself and competing
I take sertraline 50mg. I was extremely paranoid before I started. Been on for 2 and a half years and they’ve helped me function fairly normally. I don’t have any side effects really.
wait till you try to stop
I took 200mg zoloft for about a year, decided it wasnt doing anything then tapered off over a month or so. It was a little weird but no big deal
this will be another thread full of normalgays who never had mental illness screaming about pharmajews, how anti-depressants just numb you and make you a zombie, "mental illness is real" and of course "just stop being a pussy".
oh yeah and they'll you a story about how their fiance was "depressed" after her dog died but she did yoga and now she's all better
Anhedonia is a documented side effect of SSRIs and seems to be the hardest to reverse. So playing SSRIs as something harmless is bullshit.
if SSRIs arent working or making it worse, you can always stop taking them.
But you never took them so what do you care?
moron, I've had clinical depression for a decade, and been suicidal at least twice. No amount of therapy or drugs ever helped me more than fixing my diet, lifting weights, getting sunlight, and improving my personal relationships. If you're depressed, it's for a reason. There are some conditions in your life that make it difficult for you to function, or give you low self-esteem, and if you change those conditions, you'll alleviate the depression.
you didnt have depression, you were just a loser.
actually you're probably just larping.
What about people who have their lives in order but still have depression?
Clinical depression iis being depressed for no reason. That's why its a mental illness
>It's only real depression if it meets my arbitrary criteria
Literaly sub-80 IQ monkey, off yourself please.
>What about people who have their lives in order but still have depression?
No such thing. A lot of our modern environment that might seem perfectly healthy is actually antagonistic to our natural needs. Too many comforts and cheap thrills in modern society. Our minds crave challenge, but we keep making things easier. It's akin to overeating, our bodies have not evolved to deal with an environment of such abundance like we have now, so we become sick because we take too much, believe more of a good thing can never be bad
but there are millions of people who have otherwise normal good lives except for depression.
Normalgays think depression is just being sad because your job sucks and anxiety is just being nervous before a final exam.
Mental illness is having anxiety or depression with no good reason too. That's why its called a disorder.
Being "depressed" because your job sucks isnt a mental disorder. That's just having a shitty a job you dont like.
>Just exercise, bro
Being "depressed" because you're out of shape and eat like shit isnt a mental disorder. That's just feeling like shit from being out of shape and eating like shit.
>Mental illness is having anxiety or depression with no good reason too. That's why its called a disorder.
No anon there is a reason. The reason why doctors and the general populace call it "no reason" is because its way too difficult and strenuous to go through a huge monologue on how your parents probably birthed you under suboptimal coniditions like poor diet and alcohol use and then raised you in a mentally ill home which causes life long trauma that cant be shaken off
Most of your mental constitution is formed from ages 0-5. You cant even remember it. If someone has anxiety issues their parents were liekly arguing overworked and depressed making their kids brains form broken.
So its not no reason. Its that you were raised in a lonely home
>If someone has anxiety issues their parents were liekly arguing overworked and depressed making their kids brains form broken.
>So its not no reason. Its that you were raised in a lonely home
you're literally spouting bullshit you just made up on the spot
See the fact you think this is bullshit shows me that you dont know what youre talking about. I know for a fact you have done no research on mental illness starting from birth
Watch this video to get even a slight idea on how perceptive kids are.
If you have an alcohol using depressive parent who is absent the kids gets scarred over and over again for thousands of days in a row while their brain is developing.
I never fricking said growing up with a fricked up family doesnt cause the kids to grow up with mental problems, moron.
You are the one saying that all mental problems is caused by having a fricked up childhood and that simply isnt true
a large portion is though. As in the vast majority
dont get mad at me for telling the truth kid. Maybe go read some more before thinkign you know whats up
So here you are saying that almost all mentall illness are caused by childhood trauma and at the same did you say "just stop being depressed" and " just fix what ever is making you depressed, like go outside or something".
Diet and exercise doesnt fix childhood trauma, therepy and meds do
Diet and exercise doesnt fix childhood trauma
But it is a necessity for living well
Its not optional to diet and exercise its mandatory. If youre fat id point to that before mental issues..
alright, and what about the people that diet and exercise, have a good job, friends, good romantic life, own a home they can afford without worry, and are still depressed?
Bro you are painting me as someome im not. I already addressed this
Your best bet is to find belonging
I addressed "belonging" as not an issue
"just dont have childhood trauma" is not a solution. therapy is a dubious solution
Still a victim of the current, insidious, cancerous environment.
Also, how many people actually have all that, and out of those, how many are legit depressed?
>Still a victim of the current, insidious, cancerous environment.
from which there is no escape. you're making an argument for meds
I'm not arguing for any specific solution, but go ahead and take your cookie if you want to win this pointless internet debate so much
post nose
But what causes it? No illness affects this many people without there being a root cause
Could it be the cancerous globalized hyper competitive society we live in that makes us chronically on edge; the individualistic trend that makes us feel isolated and unsupported; the constant sedation and overindulgence with fast food and videogames and drugs and porn and other kinds of cheap empty pleasures that fry our dopamine receptors? hmm makes u think
Oh and don't forget economy going to shit leaving a huge chunk of the population with no hope of ever being able to buy a house or affording a fulfilling life
that's like saying what causes any mental illness.
What causes BPD, schizophrenia, autism, OCD, ADHD etc etc
Sure some are caused by trauma, hard drug use and some people are just born that way or you brain just developed differently for no reason at all.
BPD is largely caused by trauma
Find any BPD person and they had a really absent lonely family life and oftentimes bullying and chaotic home life
The answer is in most western cultures most parents are disconnected and even worse, depressed.
>some people are just born that way or you brain just developed differently for no reason at all
Not with these numbers, no
>people here say mental illness is just a matter of fixing your current lifestyle
>I make the point that mental illness isnt caused by your current lifestyle
>(You) spend all this time arguing with me that mental illness isnt caused by your current lifestyle
You should see a therapist or something because you're fricked in the head
Have you considered that maybe you're talking to different people and that you should address each post individually?
Mental illnesses can have a number of causes, but "for no reason" has to be the absolute rarest of them
>muh mental disorder
>muh genetics
This is just cope so you don't have to take steps to improve your life. There are NOT millions of people whose brains are so fundamentally broken that given proper nutrition, exercise, and a fulfilling social life, they would still have debilitating clinical depression. You're trying to define depression as independent of external factors, when literally NOTHING in life works like that. There is always a cause.
You can keep wallowing in self-pity about how you were dealt a shitty hand and keep whining on IST about how "my depression is so much deeper and more insurmountable than yours," or you can take control of your life and do something about it.
so you only believe that people are depressed BECAUSE they are losers? you dont think its possible that people are depressed to begin with, which causes them to be a loser, which in turn makes them more depressed, etc?
What exactly causes depression in your mind? Does it just randomly fall out of the ether and infect people? Is it like an airborne virus? Is it purely genetic?
>so you only believe that people are depressed BECAUSE they are losers?
The only person in this thread using the term "losers" is you. All I've said is that lifestyle factors create the conditions that produce mental illnesses, including depression.
>you dont think its possible that people are depressed to begin with, which causes them to be a loser, which in turn makes them more depressed, etc?
Were you born depressed? Did you come out of your mother's womb depressed? Clearly not, or you wouldn't have bothered suckling on her breasts and you would've died in infancy.
>so what if your gut biome is functioning just fine and you still have depression?
Do you have evidence that your gut biome is functioning fine? Or are you just taking that on faith so you can continue to complain about how your depression is so unique and deep and exists completely independent of external causes?
These posts are clearly all the same person. It's evident that you have no interest in helping yourself, so this is your last (You). Depression does not exist in a vacuum. It does not manifest out of the void. You're trying to define it as independent of external conditions so that you have an excuse to say, "I was born this way. I was dealt a shitty hand, and there's nothing I can do." Or maybe you're a pharmacy shill, acting like meds are the ONLY possible solution to unique depressed snowflakes such as yourself. Idk. The bottom line is, you are making a choice not to improve your life, and you're vehemently defending that choice to an internet stranger because the idea of taking responsibility for your life is too daunting and painful.
>Do you have evidence that your gut biome is functioning fine?
yes, every time I go to the toilet
>you're not depressed, you're just a snowflake
so just stop being depressed then. Thanks. got it.
Where did you get your degree in mental health studies by the way?
IST, youtube or naturalnews?
so basically you're saying
>just stop being depressed, bro. Go exercise or something".
But to the contrary, there are in fact millions of people whose brains are in such a fundamentally broken state called clinical depression. Even having such a person get out of bed in the morning is a challenge, let alone your proposed "easy" cure of a complete lifestyle turnaround
but have you tried not being depressed?
You probably just need vitamin D you should go for a walk
>Clinical depression iis being depressed for no reason
Literally find one documented case of this being so. Literally find one. There is always a reason.
homie that's not depression if you can fix it with DIET AND LIFTING LMAO
The morons don't realize the zombie meme is people taking benzos. SSRIs and benzos act much differently. One gradually helps you feel better and the other is a sedative.
There's some truth in the fact that my life is "duller" on ssris which is nice because I'm not in a constant state of high anxiety and on the board of going into a panic attack. Yeah things don't get the attention of my fear and I can function.
>The morons don't realize the zombie meme is people taking benzos. SSRIs and benzos act much differently. One gradually helps you feel better and the other is a sedative.
I've taken both, benzos are only zombie like if you take too much and black out. You function like a normal human on them, with less inhibitions. SSRIs on the other hands, I didn't know if I was awake or asleep half the time.
I've never heard anyone feel like that on SSRIs. Maybe if the dosage is too high which is possible because there are lots of shitty doctors out there who will just prescribe shit. I had a primary care doctor prescribe 50mg zoloft and I had a bad side effect a few days later. I saw a psychiatrist and he gave me lexapro instead which is at a lower dosage than zoloft but he also tapered me up on it, I took half a pill for 3 months before I took the full dosage and that helped with lots of side effects.
I knew someone who was on an SSRI and was pretty psychologically blunted. Just ate lots of snacks and got fat. Later they had the courage to go off. Then they were exercising, fixing diet, dating, and were much happier. So for them the drug just stole a lot of positive feelings in exchange for muting the negative ones.
wow, sounds like the ssris fixed their depression and gave them the courage to do everything they didnt do the rest of their life.
No, having people convince them to ween off the drug did that.
Besides, it's a normal side effect so you don't have to believe my story
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0165032717308303
>person is depressed
>goes on SSRIs
>gets the motivation to wean themselves off the SSRIs and also to suddenly do everything they never did before
>dude it totally wasnt the SSRIs, it was actually TAKING THEM OFF the SSRIs that made them not depressed
right
homosexual, if anything IST has the highest concentration of depressed losers on the internet
Personally the moment I began taking SSRIs was when my erectile dysfunction started. I never fully recovered. They made me feel a bit better, but it didn't fix my problems.
FIX. YOUR. PROBLEMS.
Don't rely on bandaids that kill your boners
Yes, you should take them. Don’t be dumb.
I'm wary because of the long term effects. I don't want to look back on taking them and think ahhh what a moron when my brain is leaking out of my ears
There is no evidence SSRIs work for depression.
Anxiety, fear, and depression are consequences of low GABA. Ask for Baclofen.
low GABA? more like yo gaba gaba! haha just kidding, that's a nice post
kek
but seriously, in my experience and observing the experience of those around me, SSRIs should be an absolute last resort. they appear to do more damage than good and the damage lasts for years. for a lot of people it seems to just put them into a numbed, passive state. please only try after exhausting lifestyle options such as getting basics like exercising to wear yourself out will fix your sleep: a physically exhausted body will have to sleep regardless of mental stuff going on. That and getting enough sunshine and eating healthy non-processed foods. And of course the most difficult thing is to socialise. the thought of going into a situation with lots of people in public will be completely repulsive but it is needed to help make breaks in the continuity of your doom-thinking.
-exercise to exhaustion
-proper whole non-processed food
-plenty of sunshine
-force yourself into social situations
doctors who go straight to SSRIs should get the rope
>I know all of these people on anti-depressants and they are all zombies. just fix ur diet instead
Who are all of these people you know who tell you about their anti-depressant use?
And they all happen to be zombies from it? Not a single person felt better?
People dont go around telling other people about their psych meds, but they all tell you for some reason?
This is the problem with you larpers. You dont bother to think if your bullshit story is realistic or not.
>People dont go around telling other people about their psych meds, but they all tell you for some reason?
Anon, have you never met a woman?
No evidence SSRIs work for depression? Frick off, you have no idea
dude its your gut bacteria. Just eat some pickles and stop taking pharmajews
I had good success with atypical antidepressants until the shrink wanted to do a red flag gun law procedure on me so I tapered off solo and stopped after about 2 months. I got them subscribed after getting diagnosed with something entirely different, nobody's fault but serious diagnosis. Didn't turn me into a zombie but I didn't have dreams during sleep at all, which helped restful sleep. I've reassessed my relationship with sleep, got into biphasic pauses and continue to live normally. Beat the allegations, too
Y'all might be better off with an NDRI, like Wellbutrin (buproprion). It increases dopamine and norepinephrine, and doesn't screw up your weight or sex life
When I was taking Wellbutrin I couldn't cum for shit having sex. I'd pul out and jerk it for 5 min and still couldn't cum
this could be a benefit for premature ejaculation
I've been taking it for about a month, still getting some headaches from it
hot take, but imo not only the active ingredient is important, the reason why you wanna take it is INFLUENCING the reception of the drug. SSRI is a israeli trojan horse. I would go with phenibut
I take brintellix
For me its better than sertraline but it's expensive. I'm planning to taper off it sometime next year after I sort some stuff out. I'll see how u go and if I function well without it
I also take atomoxetine for adhd. It's non stim and helps a good deal
I take sertraline and you'll pry it from my cold, dead hands. It's for OCD, PTSD, social anxiety disorder, and major depressive disorder. Hugely effective for my mental illnesses, but also a really powerful medication that shouldn't be tossed around lightly.
Is this a general practitioner that prescribed it or a psychiatrist? If it was a regular doctor get a referral to a psychiatrist and have them do an assessment. GPs don't know shit about psychiatry and shouldn't be prescribing these meds imo.
Alright I managed to get a box of these things. About 30. I don't have any more and probably can't get it. What if I took them for like a month to get the ball rolling and cure my fricked head? Is it possible to jumpstart recovery like this and then just take it from there?
Not him but please take what I say into account
DO NOT do this. SSRI's have a ramp up you have to take them over like 6 months at least.
If you take them for a month and then stop you are simply frickign up your brain for no potential benefit. Seriously. Listen to this
The first 2 weeks will feel bad. Then you spend 2 weeks still adjusting to them. Then you stop and now your brain is spazzing out again for the sudden cessation with no scope for any benefits
Dont do this. 6 month minimum
do not do this without being able to consistently get pills. Like the other anon said, ssris dont instantly make you feel better, they take time to build up in the blood.
Yes,I take them. People on IST and /misc/ shit on them but most people here are legit morons. If you actually have anxiety, panic disorder, and/or depression they can be helpful. As you said, you work out, eat well, therapy, etc but still have problems you sometimes just can't do anything about it. Your brain is an organ and there's a way it works. You can try to rewire it but sometimes it doesn't always work or you can easily slip back after years. The problem are morons who are depressed but they stay home all day watching porn and eating fast food. Or they think that life should always be sunshine and rainbows and when they go through some adversity they think it's depression and not just life.
what are some meds I might be able to get for chronic fatigue? I've exhausted every blood test my gp could throw at me and aced them all. I'm already on wellbutrin, but its only mildly effective on that front
person here with some experience using citalopram:
shit helped me through some tough times and might have saved my life, but after a while I truly hated being a zombie (I was on a really high dose) and tapered off. I didn't necessarily feel better, I just didn't care about anything which during those shitty years was a big relief.
just take em and see if it helps.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-74934-9
thoughts?
It makes sense. We know that our gut is a micro-ecosystem, so it stands to reason than many of the bacteria in there produce essential chemicals for our body. We also know that our gut produces 95% of our serotonin, so if the relevant bacteria get nuked for any reason, our nervous system is guaranteed to go haywire. The pharmacuetical industry was a mistake.
so what if your gut biome is functioning just fine and you still have depression?
Hello anon. Firstly, I want you to discard most of the comments here. If the person is speaking from a place of never having taken them or poo-pooing meds simply because they think meds are beneath them, ignore them. Thats a problem with them, theyre too insecure to open up to the idea that they need external help, these people usually turn into lonely losers because they can never admit flaws. Theyre the most vulnerable people in the world, more so than people who need meds
Firstly, there are issues to taking meds. SSRI's have clear side effects. not just the immediate ones (weight gain, hormone issues, sex issues, change in mood (sometimes bad)), they can also cause long term issues in some causes called SSRI discontinuation syndrome. Nevertheless if you feel like your life is in a serious impasse you feel you cant overcome I would recommend them as you dont have much to use. I have used SSRI's 4 times over 4 courses in my life and while I cant comment on how theyve affected me long term I tend to feel normal like myself after discontinuing
My latest course of SSRI's I tried prozac for a year. 20mg. It made me feel abit manic, like overly confident. It gave me the energy to try new things like start a new job I otherwise woulda been too scared to take the plunge with. It also made me more impulsive which could have been good for making friends but I felt the need to sink beers inbetween breaks at my work which Ih ave never otherwise done
So the bad comes with the good and it has different affects for differrent people. I dont think I ever suffered from serious life depression so maybe thats why it didnt do much for me except make me more impulsive. I think for people with low levels of depression its worth trying
BUT REMEMBER
THIS IS CRUCIAL
SSRI's ARE NOT FOR LONG TERM
YOU TAKE THEM FOR A YEAR OR SO
LONG TERM AFFECTS ARE NOT WELL STUDIED
USE YOUR TIME ON THESE MEDS TO TAKE FURTHER LIFE PROGRESSION STEPS
ESPECIALLY COMBATING LONELINESS
Good luck OP.
One final word please remember that having sex with girls and eating pussy doesnt mean dick for having a fulfilled social life if you have no confidents you trust and love and no fulfilling social circle in general
One night stands and having flings doesnt constitute a social life in any shape or form its the same as drinking beers with an alcoholic on the street then walking away and never seeing them again. Does that feel like it makes you belong?
The problem with these normalgays is they insist depression and anxiety arent real or you just need to diet and exercise.
And then when you diet and exercise and are still suffering from mental problems, the normies literally get enraged and tell you you're not doing it right or trying hard enough.
It never occurs them that maybe diet and exercise doesnt cure mental illness, its the mental patient who wrong not them.
This is how mental hospitals turned into literally torture chambers 150 years ago. Normal gays couldnt stand the fact their "cures" werent working so they just beat them and held their heads under ice water until they learned to "just stop being depressed, bro. Simple as"
>And then when you diet and exercise and are still suffering from mental problems, the normies literally get enraged and tell you you're not doing it right or trying hard enough.
Part of this is down to depressed and anxious people not actually achieving this step. I think for a lot of people they actually would get better if they committed to that but they think walking for 30 minutes a day for 10 days is sufficient exercise then give up. A lot of this is anecdotal but I've known maybe 10 clinically depressed peopel closely and they never actually try exercising. I understand part of this is down to their depression but they reallty do have to find a way to do it even if they find it fruitless because nobody can be well without it.
yeah Michael Phelps just doesnt exercise enough, If he just went out and walked for 30 minutes in between his 10 hour training sessions he would be ok
fricking moron.
Did you ever think the depressed people who dont exercise already tried but stopped because it didnt work?
Like I said people like you are literally the reason mental hospitals became torture chambers with forced exercise and hard labor
https://www.healthcentral.com/slideshow/famous-athletes-that-struggle-with-depression
Like I said people like you are literally the reason mental hospitals became torture chambers with forced exercise and hard labor
Thats bullshit and a strawman. Nobody out of my clinically depressed friends ever tried exercising that I knew of. They also seemed to possess traits of themselves thinking it was beneath them. Likely a part of their depression. Also likely caused by childhood trauma.
im not saying exercise will solve them idiot Im firmly in the belief of childhood trauma ruling the rest of your life but yeah if depressive people think that running 30 mintues a day is beneath them then they wont get better without meds
>Nobody out of my clinically depressed friends ever tried exercising that I knew of.
only on IST does everyone know dozens of people who
>are on anti-depressants who have become zombies
>people with depression and anxiety who got better by drinking pickle juice or some nonsense about gut bacteria
>"roidtroonys" with small balls
>ketolards whose hair fell out
>drank raw milk and became superman over night
>didnt touch their dicks for 458 days straight and became normal functioning member of society
etc etc
This is all pretty impressive for a bunch of cartoon-watching incels with no job or friends and dont leave the house
>>are on anti-depressants who have become zombies
Never said that
with depression and anxiety who got better by drinking pickle juice or some nonsense about gut bacteria
Never said that
>>"roidtroonys" with small balls
never said that
Cant even be bothered going on about the rest because youve literally gone and done the impossible of posting 6 things you projected and made up about me. Quite extroardinary. Probably why youre so depressed bro you love to play the victim. Trust me my depressed mates loved to do that too eventually you have to shut them down and let them know theyre mentally ill and playing the victim doesnt do shit except solidify their status as a terminally depressive. get help or fricking grow up
>I'm clearly talking about IST in general
>thinks I'm talking exclusively about (You)
mental illness takes many forms.
or are just stupid?
Nice projection homosexual. I leave my house at least once a week
>https://www.healthcentral.com/slideshow/famous-athletes-that-struggle-with-depression
how are we defining depression anymore? this always confused me since mental health got trendy. all these people are high achievers and then say they struggle with x, y, or z. okay so what does that have to do with the people who are actually wrecked? i knew someone self-employed who said they knew they were depressed when they didn't make the bed in the morning. like they have no awareness of how fricking ridiculous that is in comparison to others.
Im also a bit confused about depressive people because most depressive people Ive encountered are actually covert narcissists in life who say theyre depressed when in reality they mean they arent being treated like a king and it pisses them off. It makes the actual depressives look bad.
Isn't all dissatisfaction merely unmet expectations?
Naturally narcissists are gonna be more depressed, because they set the bar higher
I have been taking since a member of the family passed away, two years I love them, stopped me from suicide
I got off ssris and I've been the happiest I've ever been. having to take a depression drug daily just made me more depressed
I took citalopram for a year until November. The doctor said less than a year would probably not help that much (I had previously come off after 4 months or so). I do feel different. I gained at least 4 kg of pure fat but it practically fell off when I stopped. Other that that and my dick being slightly less sensitive I didn't have any side-effects. Overall I'm glad I took it, when I started I was in a bad place and kept putting myself in dangerous places like cycling dangerously around cars, showing that I kind of wanted to die.
What I'd say is that you have to use it as an opportunity to fix shit. If I hadn't fixed my diet and started lifting and made friends, I probably would have gone straight back to having a deathwish when I discontinued.
>dunning kruger: the thread
I didn't know women posted on IST
You could get a second or third opinion from someone with an actual education in medicine. I wouldn't take medical advice from the trash here
Anyone who claims they don't have side effects is without a doubt soulless and entirely lacking in insight and thus unable to properly evaluate their own cognition or emotional states.
no one here ever said there are no side effects.
as with all medications the question is do the benefits outweigh the side effects
>dude you arent depressed you're just a loser
chicken or the egg scenario
are you depressed and that is causing you to be a loser
or are you a loser and that causes you to be depressed, which then makes you not want to do anything, which then keeps you a loser
Boss and coworker sat me down and told me they think I have bipolar disorder.
Said that for the past few months ive been acting strangely and irrationally. I dont want to hurt the people around me with my behavior but im hurting pretty bad and dont know what to do about it besides life and go through life like i always have. Never had these issues before, but my coworker used to work in the psych field, and both of my parents were bipolar, but self-diagnosis doesn't seem right.
I'm scared that at this rate I'm going to alienate everyone around me and then off myself, and I don't know what to do.
As far as we know there isn't a single drug/program/bullshit thing to just convert you into another person right out of the gate without any sort of external help. So if you're scared of getting hypnotized by the great big pharma - If you take them for a while and don't notice any improvement, you can just stop taking them. If you notice an improvement, it's an indicator that something in your life isn't as good or as okay as it could be. For most people, SSRI's or any other antidepressants are mostly just a way of making them more functioning (from your description of you, you seem to be functioning) so they can fix their fricked up lives. If you already have a functioning life, it can only get better with the SSRI's and you can slowly figure out what hole in your ship are the SSRI's TEMPORARILY blocking and work towards fixing it and weaning yourself off, or you'll experience no effects and just stop taking them. I would be extremely wary of taking antidepressants or anything that changes your brain's chemistry for a longer time without attending psychotherapy or working towards fixing your life in any other way, or getting diagnosed with some sort of disorder that is proven to need constant medication.
tl ; dr get a TCA, SSRIs are shit and the research shows it's as good as placebo. TCA are not magic pills either, but there is strong evidence that they work somewhat better. In any case you need to realize your health issue is chronic and incurable. Do not expect it to be magically solved, but it can and for most it does get better (even if you do not use any medication). All of that is supported by the medical literature if you are not too lazy to check.
Here's something to consider: we don't really understand how the electrochemical imbalances in the brain affect MOOD. But ask anyone who does actual RESEARCH on the subject and they'd tell you that serotonin theory of depression is basically extremely simplistic and probably completely wrong.
Now don't get me wrong. Of course serotonin does play some role in mood, but brain science hasn't gone as far as to understand even the simple things (consider speech pathology/wernicke aphasia etc). Consider also that actually different types of antidepressants have different mechanisms (apparently both upregulating and downregulating serotonin level works for depression - can you imagine that).
Ps. If you do take tca's watch out your diet, this mfs will make you fat.
I'm not going to attack SSRI meds or users; I simply want all you bros to feel better.
I've been taking generic lexapro for 3 weeks and can't really see any change. Should I switch/up dosage next week when I see GP?
I know people say change sleep, diet, etc. But it's basically impossible. I can barely get out of bed, my life is shit, and the small changes I manage to do are so slow that at this rate, if it's linear, I wont get my shit together by next decade
It's tiring bros
thx fren
before SSRI’s (they should be last ditch) try using compounds that are actually useful like 9-me-bc, j147, compound 7p, dihexa etc
personally, 9-me-bc alone unfricked my life... went from a brainfogged depressed zombie to having the sharp, fresh mind of an 18 year old ready to conquer the world
>should i take them?
No
https://neurosciencenews.com/depression-chemical-imballance-21105/
>Your Drug May Be Your Problem
http://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=C2E2D7FA27A2A46DEA96B450E5B85F96
I'm more interested in how to help against ADD, I exercise normally, diet isn't bad, get good sleep, and tried taking different supplements
The only people who cure themselves without meds never had the condition in the first place.
Same with those people who felt depressed after taking anti-depressents; they weren't really depressed, more like somebody looking for attention depressed.
So my advice? Take the bloody meds. Just make sure to keep to the lowest dosage possible (when you feel even a slight difference) and DO NOT increase when you feel yourself getting used to it (you'll think it's not working anymore).
I never understood the "zombified" feeling people always bring up. I felt manic and had zero inhibition.