What are some behaviors that you personally feel drastically improve your mental health apart from the big 5?
The big 5:
>regular exercise
>great diet
>great sleep
>adequate amount of sunlight
>healthy social & love life
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Exposure to sun greatly increases my mood
I think a sexy black kween would greatly improve my mental health
>Sunlight
That gives you wrinkles though.
>vampireposting
Don't care. Lots of sunlight and lots of cardio are literally the only things that have ever helped my depression. I don't care how much it ages me, it's worth it.
>look at this image i found online it must be real
Sunscreen goofball. Imagine rawdogging the sun.
You only get sunburn if you consume seed oils.
yeah thats why only people who are in the sun have wrinkles
fricking moron. sun literally makes your skin look younger and healthier
Reading things about trannies and israelites on IST
Go to church. religion is the new counter-culture in a degenerate world.
Oh look we got a Gavin McGinnis gay ovea here.
Go to church for the community and spirituality. Not cause it's edgy you waxed moustache c**t
Proper sodium, potassium, and magnesium intake.
>for the community
Tried it. "Young adults worship group" turned out to have more autists than /LULZ/.
The solution is to simply find a new religious community, no? Or perhaps mold this one into what you think it ought to be
It's weird how you reacted to a totally sensible comment with such irate anger and insults and in a mental health thread no less.
I know what you mean by Gavin McGinnis, but Catholicism has been the "new counter-culture" for my boomer parents entire lives. While the sexual revolution and post-hippy lefty shit was going hard in the 70s, my parents were deeply involved with the Catholic church, and they both went to university so they were bombarded with the lefty propaganda at ground zero. The current micro-trend of online e-Catholics, most of whom are just grifters, doesn't make up for the past 70 years of being at odds with mainstream culture.
I think you forgot mind altering drugs
Read books, have an intellectual hobby/interest
>have an intellectual hobby/interest
moron bros...
Something that helped me get out of bad time is writing 10 thing I'm thankful for on paper at the beginning of the day, it's sounds dumb but it's actually worked for me pull my head out of my ass and not be depressed
>great sleep
This one is the hardest for me. If I go to sleep early then I'll wake up middle of the night with a severe urge to take a piss. If i go to bed late I wake up late feeling like absolute shit. And if I do everything right I'll still get sleepy during the day and I'll take a nap that will disrupt my sleep schedule all over again
I assume you're 18-40. Go to a doctor, you shouldn't get up to piss at night.
social & love life
I understand your pain anon. It fricking sucks.
I hope you find someone one day....
>healthy social & love life
this isn't a behaviour and can't be included in the big 5 as it's out of your control
Maybe if you are kid or inmate.
But adult people can freely choose their associates and romantic partners.
not really. I mean, you can choose, but only within the areas you frequent and between the people that are also there. You can't befriend a random person from the street unless under very specific circumstances. So depending on your circles your choices for friends can be really good or really shitty
>adult people can freely choose their associates and romantic partners.
Yes, which means it's out of your control. Other people have to want to spend time with you.
You don't need anybody else to agree for the other 4
You can choose as much as you want. It doesn't mean those people will choose you back
a very small but awesome one is turning on "Do Not Disturb" Mode. You stay less distracted and can get things done.
>balance your proclivities
iam a person who doesnt like new things. i tend to do the same things over and over again.
i noticed that when i force myself to introduce new things here and there my mood gets better.
>read a book you wouldnt read
>listen to a new band you never heard of
>watch a movie that isnt your usual thing
>take a different route home
>buy a food you havent tried before
social & love life
Surely, I won't need this if I have the others squared, right IST?
don't worry bro it's fake news you don't need that
they're called social bonds because they hold you down
Diet and exercise is the main thing, if social contact mattered then literally every female wouldn't be on a wienertail of drugs
>healthy social & love life
This is surprisingly hard as a 30 year old. Not the love life part, I have a wife and daughter so I'm all set as far as family goes, but I have very few friends that I kept from high school and the friends I do have only ever talk about shit I outgrew half a decade ago. How do I go about making new friends?
Take courses in stuff you are interested in. It's pretty much the only way. I still make friends in my mid-30s by coursemaxxxing.
Sorry your wife won’t let you play video games anon
>How do I go about making new friends?
Frick, how the frick do you still care about friends if you have a family?
So you can set a good example for your children.
Meditation and Wim Hof. I mean they help, but not as much as running.
Beside that, it's journaling. I tend to ask myself at the end of the day if I do anything worth while. It helps with making you feel like shit for wasting your time during the day, so you look forward to improve tomorrow.
>great sleep
6 hours a day is killing me, but I don't feel like having enough time otherwise.
the hours you win will be lost as years
>healthy social life
This is the hardest one for me to achieve
>just go outside and talk to people, bro!
The problem with this advice is that it's basically me admitting
>"hey, I'm a weirdo with no friends and who doesn't know how to make friends naturally, so I'm just approaching random people in public and hoping someone will accept me"
it's pathetic
You need friends to make friends unfortunately
Some dysfunctional loser who made friends by playing sports at recess in elementary school will have friends his entire life, whereas he will never have any if he didn't.
*the only exception is if you find someone else who also has no friends
I'll go to the arcade and play games by myself sometimes and people will approach me
>wow you're really good at that game
>don't worry we don't think you're a nerd
Being alone is taboo
Maybe it's true and you need to admit it to get better?
>Reg ex
>Sunlight
>Diet
I do notice changes from all of these.
I'm part of the sleepless elite and haven't had a "good night's sleep" my entire teenage/adult life.
I've averaged 4-6 hours most nights.
Maybe id improve if I went to bed earlier but I've also been knowledge maxing on esotericism and globohomosexual since I was 7
Acceptance
>What are some behaviors that you personally feel drastically improve your mental health apart from the big 5?
Dropping my annoying gf and deciding not to rush into another relationshit. It took some balls to just straight up do it without sugarcoating the fact I'm tired of her scolding and generally being argumentative and disagreeable.
It will also take some will NOT to install Tinder and accidentally getting another foid attached to me.
I'm prepared for a brief period of celibacy but I think it's for the better.
it is, quality is better than quantity when it comes to romantic relationships
Being social has literally never helped my mental health. Not an edgelord post, but every time I try to be social I just get more depressed. Normalgays are just moronic and not worth your time. It's a scam.
you sound insufferable
You sound like you enjoy talking about the weather, your job, and ball games.
you sound like you enjoy talking about balls
>healthy social & love life
OVER
good mental health tip, is to find time to spend with your family or people you care about. difficult when you work or are busy with school, but its important.
>caring about others
NGMI
I just get annoyed by pets at this point. A kitten is cute 2 minutes then it gets annoying
you can achieve more in life and overcome more when you are doing things that dont just benefit only yourself. Gives you more strength/determination.
>only caring about yourself
NGMI
all anime characters i like are self centered and selfish and they frick shit up
hiei, sasuke, vegeta
your argument is invalid
The best thing about becoming "stronger" is that you can hopefully prevent other people from going through things you have been through so they dont end up having the same problems. Either in physical strength to defend others or mental strength to guide people and help them make the right choices.
If nobody cares about you, caring about others is just pathetic.
well i said to spend time with people you care about, they care about me. its a two way street. takes time in life to build bonds with people.
>takes time in life to build bonds with people.
they're built entirely on what you provide each other
If you refuse to be a jester or a wallet, no amount of time will help
i dont think its always that simple. I have helped my friends who have never done anything to "help me" and I have had friends help me who I have never "done anything for". You can abstractly say what they get from you is your friendship and company if you wanted to try and water it down to some purely transactional trade, but I dont think thats what it always is for people.
Im a firm believer in the pay it forward mentality, that if you help a few people, some of those people will appreciate it enough, that they will be more likely to provide help for others in return. Thats the way I live my life, and it doesnt always need to be large things. Sometimes helping people in small ways has a large impact on them. I still remember to this day small things stranger shave done for me, like offering to buy me my energy drink for no other reason than I was behind them in line. Its rare but it happens. And when I asked people in those moments why they were doing it, they told me to do it for someone else. I have had a issue where my card wouldnt work in a store when I was trying to just buy 2 protein bars and strangers have bought it for me in that moment because it was only a few dollars and they understood what happened.
If you dont want to help others thats fine no one will make you do it, but at least try to help the people who you care about. only caring about yourself is a hollow existence and an empty way to live.
>pay it forward mentality
still waiting for my forward payment then
>I still remember small things strangers have done
Can't relate. I also hate receiving compliments, if you want to psychoanalyse that. They are meaningless to me and I am incapable of giving them to others.
>only caring about yourself is a hollow existence and an empty way to live
Winning and being strong take priority.
Once you are in a good position, then you can start helping others.
you can live your life how you want to live it, i dont really care. I know the type of life I want to live and the impact I want to have while I'm here. This world is inherently chaotic and meaningless, and if I'm going to be here, I need a purpose that matters more than comparing myself to other people. This is why I eventually became a firefighter because this gives me a strong ability to help others and I dont live a meaningless life that only benefits myself. And I can use the money I make to not only provide for myself but help my family members when they need it. Or select friends I trust.
I have had many ups and downs in my life where I have felt like I had everything and periods where I felt like I had nothing. my take away is that the majority of shit people care about is fleeting and doesnt matter. Being popular, how hot your girlfriend (or girlfriends) are, how nice your car or your stupid house is. Its all made up bullshit. None of it fricking matters at all. Its all temporary and fleeting. Like this life. So like I said before I know the existence I want to have while I'm here that to me does have meaning and significance so that's the path I follow. Not everyone will appreciate what you do for them, some will. You cant change the world but you can change the entire world for one person who may feel just like you do.
Thanks.
My new purpose in life is to counter every positive act you do with a negative one.
Godspeed
i know that youre shitposting but it still wouldnt matter. what matters is living your life knowing that you did and tried your best. what other people do has no bearing on how you live your life.
>i know that youre shitposting
I'm not
if I can ruin someone's life and I remember your delusional post I'll do it
>what matters is living your life knowing that you did and tried your best
massive cope
nothing delusional about people thanking me for saving their or their family members homes.
>>what matters is living your life knowing that you did and tried your best
> massive cope
so what matters to you? I doubt you have a single strong conviction beyond elevating yourself above others. youve got one life to live if thats how you want to do it youre going to be like miserable guys i know who have everything but feel empty everyday.
do you even know yourself well enough to answer the question?
>so what matters to you
I want to be free so I can live in peace.
The only way to be free is to be rich and strong
I don't really want anything else., I'll find other goals once I'm free
I also want to be free so my future family can have a good life.
Becoming stronger physically and being financially well off/secure are good first goals to have, as long as it isnt your own goal. After all you need to take care of yourself if you want the ability to help/provide for others.
I know a few people who have a nice house, multiple nice cars, (which are basically vanity toys), a job that pays a lot (but one they hate) and despite being "made" they are miserable people because theyre missing something. So just dont end up like that.
Just dont forget that along the way/journey there are still small opportunities/way to help other people. I remember before getting settled in to my firefighting job working a shitty job where I never ate food at lunch because I was trying to save money. This guy who worked at the same place bought me some food until I got my next paycheck, and it was really nice of him. I was working in a different state at the time, was away from home, and he asked me to come over for thanksgiving if I wasnt doing anything after we got to know eachother more.
I thought the guy would be well off since he bought me some food, and it turned out the guy lived in a super small apartment with his wife and they were using foodstamps, and he still went out of his way to buy me some food. it was only maybe 5.00 or 10.00 worth, but he absolutely didnt need to do that yet he did. After I got my paycheck I paid him the money back even though he tried declining it multiple times. I gave him a little extra back. (20.00)
Me and that guy are still friends to this day. I should check up on him and see how hes doing. I doubt you care about this story but Im just trying to give you an example of small ways people can leave large impacts on people and it isnt always because they get anything out of it. Its just out of the goodness of their hearts, and often times because they themselves have struggled so they try to help other people out of empathy.
Good luck in your life I hope you find fulfillment.
>as long as it isnt your own goal.
meant to say as long as it isnt your only goal
>as long as it isn't your only goal
I don't think you get it. Those aren't goals, they're prerequisites. I have to dramatically improve my living conditions before I can do anything else.
The physical strength will help me heal my weakened mind and the money is the only way I can get a wife (I need to arrange a marriage because I am not part of society and wouldn't even want to reintegrate at this point even if it was possible)
My real goal is to have a big family whom I can give a good life, but it's very far away and I'm on my own until I get there.
>just don't be alone
doesn't work that way, good for you if you think it's that easy but it's not
I'm not sure why you added that story about the food. I already said I don't care about small things others do for me. They just do it to feel better about themselves anyway.
Even if I appreciate it in the moment, I very quickly forget about it and stop caring.
The answer of what individual people are missing to be happy or to have fulfillment is not a one size fits all answer for everyone. It isnt always something as simple as having a wife or someone for emotional support. (even though thats good to have) If the only thing you prioritize is "strength" and "independence", devoting yourself to something larger than yourself is the fastest way to get that. Something you actually believe in, which is why I asked about your convictions.
A wife can come and go. Friends and family can disappear. If the only thing that matters to you is being strong and independent because you are that jaded, you should find something to devote yourself to that has true meaning. Because if you accomplish that you will not require anyone at home to hold your hand like you oversimplified my answer to. I have dated a ton of people and have almost been married multiple times. I could go the rest of my life never being told "I love you" as long as I'm on a path thats true to myself and have my own self respect. If strength is the only thing you care about that is a level I doubt you will ever attain with your current world views and attitude. You seem resigned to stay negative for the rest of your life. But thats your call. If thats how you want to spend your one life.And if your goal is to have a large family, make sure that you become someone they will actually want to be around.
I get what you mean, finding a goal or an ideal will make reaching my objectives easier by motivating me.
I don't really have a superior ideal.
I only have myself so I'm not sure how I could want something other than my personal freedom and success.
Can you think of any examples other than "helping others" ? Cause it definitely won't be that. It would be pathetic and nauseating to go from outcasted by society to trying to spread happiness.
Religion ? What else ?
>You seem resigned to stay negative for the rest of your life
My life is shit and will be for the foreseeable future. What the frick would I be positive about
You don't know me but I am being objective not negative
>A wife can come and go
Not in my world, I can't imagine just letting your wife leave because she feels like it
>if your goal is to have a large family, make sure that you become someone they will actually want to be around.
Much easier said than done unfortunately. I'm glad you said that though
>can you think of what to devote myself too?
you need to figure it out for yourself. not everyone finds their path and if you do it can take a while. Thats part of the journey since we all are different people. How can I tell you what to believe in? This come through life experience and often times overcoming hardship and growing.
Firefighting has nothing to do with my college degree or what I wanted to do before that.
It doesnt matter if your life is shit. It doesnt matter if you're objective about it. You need to find things to be happy and grateful for. You arent owed anything. In the grand scheme of the universe you arent any more special than a bug is. This world is chaotic so you need to be able to learn how to appreciate small things, like gestures from strangers. Your inability to appreciate small things and lifes small positive moments is part of why youre so negative. In time you need to learn to be grateful for things that go right to balance out what will inevitably go wrong.
I know you will say something like thats illogical, but human emotions are illogical. And you only hurt yourself by only acknowledging the negative in life without allowing yourself to see the good. You can spend the next decade building up a perfect life for yourself, and you can get hit by a car and be paralyzed for the rest of your life. That is the nature of this life and why you only set yourself up for failure/ self destruction maintaining self sabotaging mindsets that will fail you at critical moments where everything seems lost.
My advice is that you work on developing who you are as an individual because that will take you much further than money or being physically strong will in the long term. In this life you are stuck with yourself you need to become someone who you can respect and live with.
Nah, frick helping others and frick you
This might not be viable for most people, but my mental improved once I started taking care of some animals my family has. It’s easy to ignore my own needs since I hate myself, but once it became my responsibility to tend to their needs I couldn’t bring myself to let these animals suffer because of my personal issues. Being responsible for something means you’re needed to take care of it, and knowing that the animals need me slowly helped my mental health over the years. So I guess my message is to find a way to be responsible for something, something small at first like volunteering at a one-time event or something like that
>healthy social & love life
it's so fricking over bros
Mental health is cope. I will never be happy because I am 5’6
Not taking life so seriously, it really made me be more open to things.
I don't think my mental health will ever be good.
So I replaced self punishment, self hatred, smoking and bad stuff like that,
With the discomfort of regiment and discipline from exercise and treating your life like you are an athlete.
And get into something more than just lifting. Skateboarding made me be fit again.
I picked the board upafter a few years hiatus. started having fun and got right back into like I never left, learned two dozen new tricks, and it saved my life.
Gave me the reason to lift and be fit again because all the garbage was making me a worse skater.
I'll lift and get in the gym, but it's not my passion. Skating is. You gotta find a passion, because gym is not a passion unless it is.
it isnt the route i would suggest to everyone but because i noticed being in good shape is vital to how i feel, eventually i found a job that synergized with being strong and taking care of myself and its been good. Physical jobs arent always reliable becuase if you get hurt you cant work, but lots of jobs come and go anyway either way even in an office. idk if you would want to do it as a career but maybe you would enjoy doing some volunteer firefighting work instead? If nothing else its fun to do something with your body thats constructive.
>Walk the dog
>Drink water
>Say sentences of gratitude
>Pray
>Meditate / breathe fully
>Cold showers
>Fast for the first 6+ hours after waking for maximum mental clarity
>Tidy your room
DMT
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I think I should probably train myself out of thinking about how I am human garbage.
How tall are you?
Xanax before social occasions
Before I get out of my car, enter a room, etc. etc. that feeling of anticipatory nervousness - these days I take a deep breath and smile before continuing and acknowledge how I feel rather than RUSH RUSH RUSH like society made me perform. I recommend Eckhert Tolle
>recommend Eckhert Tolle
Based. Gateways to Now on YouTube is a good start.
Trying to understand that I can't change a lot of the bad news out there and distance myself from it, as well as the idea that everything is in my own hands. As well as getting rid of the social medias (mostly Twitter) that are just people talking over each other to have the first "take" on something they don't understand and trying to convince other online people that they're funny.
As a side note, does anyone have the link to the Mega with a ton of inspirational posts like this one? I'm just in the mood to read other people's perspectives on why they started/continue
At 32, my mental health is pretty much as bad as it can possibly get. I have given up on life. I haven’t been happy since I was maybe 13. I have no self confidence, no goals, no aspirations, and all I think about is how much I want to be dead. I don’t care about myself or my well being whatsoever.
All of this is directly the result of my socially avoidant personality disorder and not having any memories with friends or relationships. I’m terrified of everything and everyone. I don’t understand how it seems like everyone nowadays talks about how they go to therapy and/or are on medications when they have perfectly fine normal good lives, who have no problem meeting people, having a family, having financial security, goals, etc.
>disengage from the news cycle
>disengage from politics
>downgrade your smarthpone to a 3310 basic model, only use the internet on your computer
>read books often, fiction or nonfiction
>meditate 10 minutes each say
>take walks in anything resembling nature, like a park, no need for hardcore innawoods, no music
Doing these very simple and low-effort changes will make you seem like an enlightened fakir or Tibetan monk compared to most people. Normies are hyper-politicized, always on edge, with high levels of cortisol, frightened at the lates blackpill psyop demoralization campaign. Their receptors and synapses are fricking fried because they're moblile addicts and their entire worldview is molded by the algorithms. Don't be like them. You can operate on a higher level of omniscience with minimal effort.
>disengage from news and politics
this is a one big that stuff drains you so much it interferes with you having energy for actually productive things. Even if its just a small effect I have no idea why people watch this stuff every day.
>meditation
I need to get back on doing this one regularly, doing it twice a day was awesome.
whenever i see my parents turn on the news i just tell them to turn it off and put some music or a documentary or something else on. they usually don't listen and get angry at whatever the latest political happenings are. all it does is bring down the vibe, for lack of a better word.
im sure a ton of people relate to what youre talking about
on a deeper level its weird to me
>pay money for cable
>watch news every day
>waste time and money to negatively effect your mood every day
???????
Most of my mental maxxing tips came from trial and error, and some pointers from other anons.
>stop apologising for existing
Walk behind women late at night if they're going the same way. Not your problem.
You have every right to be wherever you are
>stop getting involved in arguments
People say stupid shit all the time, just let them, and don't think about them anymore.
>you don't have to say anything, period
Not everything needs an answer, and you'll rarely regret not having said something.
>figure out what is "you" and what is "behaviours you learned to cope"
So many of your bad traits are likely to be copes you picked up. It's not who you are, it's how you've been acting, and you can turn it around.
>stop governing your behaviour to live up to ideals that may not even be your own
Ask yourself how crucial to your self-image is it to "act the right way" or "do the right thing", if it doesn't lead to your success. It might not even be your own idea.
Eg. You always offer to help your friends move apartment, because you feel like being that friend who's psyched to help out is a cool thing to be, but it usually means getting messed around on the day, sitting around in waiting mode, and then they tell you later that they can handle it themselves.
Or you've inherited a political view from the internet and get into fights about it, and it ends up taking up a bunch of your time and never actually changes anything except your stress levels.
If something is not working out for you, ask yourself how important it is that you keep doing it.
>get around to thinking things are funny
When I get stressed, I tell myself "it's just as well everything is funny, or this might be pretty stressful".
It helps me laugh it off. As if I'm going to look to the sky and see a big smug frog with an expression like "ah, I almost got you with that one"
Some more misc thoughts
>accept things as they are, sometimes
For a lot of years I was miserable, thinking about the past and other things I couldn't influence.
Wishing a girl didn't break up with me, wishing I hadn't left that job, wishing my parents had spent time with me, wishing I were more handsome.
What hurts is wishing things were different.
Once i accepted things as they were, it stopped hurting.
>don't seek sympathy, and don't just hand it out, either.
Sometimes sad people are sad because they do bad things and its not your responsibility to lift them up.
I learned to dislike the part of me that wanted to be lifted up by others, because it never happened.
I cried hoping god or somebody would save me if they just knew how sad I was. Didn't change anything. Nobody came. Things only got better when I took responsibility for my own happiness
>happiness cannot be deserved, it just is
Happiness is just thinking pleasant thoughts a good deal of the time. And you can start today.
You don't need to do anything to earn it. Theres no deserving or being undeserving.
Just think pleasant thoughts, a good deal of the time.
>Start assuming that you know best on something unless theres a very good reason not to
There's a lot of advice for people on how to be more empathetic out there, like "assume others might know something you don't" but very little for how to be less so.
Sometimes you know stuff that other people don't. Speak up.
>You are how the parts you can control handle the parts you can't
We all have stuff built in, from a young age, and it's not all good. But if you're aware of your shit and actively working to change and take care of it, you're doing OK.
I think I am beginning to understand self love. It always struck me as this narcissistic thing but it is actually just the same love you feel towards your family and friends. You don't care about their faults and failings, you just love them anyways. That's how you have to be with yourself, no matter how much of a frick up you are you just gotta choose to love yourself, it doesn't need a reason.
i think a lot of life would be easier if all humans were able to accept their current flaws/faults with humbleness and just make the choice to slowly be better and improve. Instead of having unrealistic expectations that we will never regress, make a mistake, go backwards, etc. Its more about over time just trying to improve, not be perfect or expect that from ourselves.(or others)
Nsdr and meditation