thats your problem. you went from 200 to 150. you should have went from 200 to like 180, then maintenance for 3 months, then 180 to 160, maintenance for 3 months then final push to get ripped at 150 and then maintenance for 3 months. when you crash diet from x to y eating 1500kcal the only outcome is rebound.
you have to get your body used to that current bodyfat and make it your maintenance. there is no reason why you cant be 10-12% bodyfat and have a maintenance of like 2750-3000kcal and eat completely normally and intuitively. nobody wants to take it slow because its "waste of time" initially.
That guy isn’t me. But I wasn’t skinny, I was muscular at 5’7 150. I actually looked bigger at 5’7 150 than I did at 200. Muscle + really low bodyfat gives an illusion of size.
it's not hard if you plan for it and try to adjust your habits and lifestyle as you diet
if you just diet as if it were a short term solution of course and then just go back to the way you were before you'll yoyo back later
Its a struggle beyond calorie counting. It's about incorporating habits that makes it easier to not go over permanently. IF, high volume foods, high satiety foods, whatever makes it stick
>BRO it's so easy CICO just eat less and exercise it's so easy bro omg lmao >Meanwhile diet and exercise for weight loss has a long term failure rate of 90-95%
Even if I grant you that, if we know that 95% of people don't have the willpower to lose weight through diet and exercise, does it make sense to tell people to lose weight through diet and exercise?
>95% of people don't have the willpower
Won't doesn't imply can't. There are tons of things that most people won't do but that they obviously can. "Don't have the willpower" is just a convoluted way of saying that they won't do something that clearly they can do.
I am skinny enough that my ribs are a bit visible and just did 7 pullups yesterday.
It's about health, I eat as much of whatever I want, I can skip breakfast and lunch with no problems because my liver releases enough glucose or whatever the important thing is.
Willpower is not supposed to be necessary, if your body doesn't automatically regulate things then somethings wrong, you cannot force yourself to eat less than you need forever.
Also you shouldn't follow diet plans, just pay attention to hwo you feel before eating, what you want, and how you feel afterwards.
Only eat as much as you actually want, dont force yourself to eat more just put it in the fridge.
Also heaviness can be caused just by being difficult to digest and having a heavy quality, while being okay in other aspects, it's not optimal but if you feel heaviness and a bit sluggish after eating its not necessarily poison, so long as its not too serious, also not necessarily about ingredients in general but their combination and method of preparation also walk 100 steps after eating and don't talk or read something etc while eating.
Sorry for moronic structure errors and typos, I will go to sleep now, it's very important.
People don't know what the correct sleep is, I did it for a while and I can say that 9pm approximately and waking up naturally is the best, there is a toned feeling in the body along with a desire to move, then go for a walk for one hour to invigorate circulation, also sleep on the side with bent legs if not uncomfortable if uncomfortable get as close to that position as reasonable.
95% is a lot and there has never been 95% consensus on like anything. At that point I'd go at least check. Who frickin knows! I've never been up there!
I lost 35lbs (from 224 to 189) over the past ~5 months. I plan to go down to 182lbs and then keep tracking kcal and maintain until april. Maybe then slowly try to fade out the tracking.
Should i keep tracking for longer to give my body time to adjust?
Habits, macros, calorie counting, none of this shit matters in the end because the food supply is quite literally not even food. If you’re not blessed with a garbage disposal metabolism then it’s going to be a constant struggle. Forever. That’s why it feels like being fat is permanent. Even when people shed the weight, they can’t avoid never relapsing.
It's true that 99% of obese people have no control over their eating habits. That is why I propose we force them to give their food to the hungry. On foot.
Nothing is permanent
Namaste
Cope but kind of true.
I went from 5’7 200 to 5’7 150 shredded and had 0 loose skin and 0 stretch marks, it was as if I was never fat
But the moment I stopped being crazy robotic and autistic about my calorie and macro tracking I got fat again
Seems if I want to stay shredded I have to be robotic about what I eat and calculate everything, or I just default back to being fat
America moment
thats your problem. you went from 200 to 150. you should have went from 200 to like 180, then maintenance for 3 months, then 180 to 160, maintenance for 3 months then final push to get ripped at 150 and then maintenance for 3 months. when you crash diet from x to y eating 1500kcal the only outcome is rebound.
you have to get your body used to that current bodyfat and make it your maintenance. there is no reason why you cant be 10-12% bodyfat and have a maintenance of like 2750-3000kcal and eat completely normally and intuitively. nobody wants to take it slow because its "waste of time" initially.
No I just went back to eating like my former fat self
Why didn't you just start eating like your hypothetical skinny self who was never fat and never needed to lose weight
That guy isn’t me. But I wasn’t skinny, I was muscular at 5’7 150. I actually looked bigger at 5’7 150 than I did at 200. Muscle + really low bodyfat gives an illusion of size.
it's not hard if you plan for it and try to adjust your habits and lifestyle as you diet
if you just diet as if it were a short term solution of course and then just go back to the way you were before you'll yoyo back later
It wasn’t a crazy yo-yo
Took about 10 months to go from 200 to 150
Then maybe 8 months it slowly crept back on but I wasn’t tracking calories anymore
I thought I could some how wing it at 150 and maybe stay under 160 without tracking ever again, but then before I know it I’m 180+ again lmao
You obviously have poor self control just getting over 200lbs in the first place
Yes
Losing quarter of your body mass in ten months is way too fast.
Its a struggle beyond calorie counting. It's about incorporating habits that makes it easier to not go over permanently. IF, high volume foods, high satiety foods, whatever makes it stick
I struggle with what that guy struggles with too, what are some high volume and high satiety foods that aren't a pain in the ass to keep 'fresh'?
Only for you chunky.
>dont eat
>fat goes away
WTF
shhhh
>doesn't eat
>gains go away
WTF
fat is used for energy but unfortunately, amino acids are used for gluconeogenesis, and the brain needs energy from glucose specifically
eat at least small meals or else you'll get skinnyfat
>BRO it's so easy CICO just eat less and exercise it's so easy bro omg lmao
>Meanwhile diet and exercise for weight loss has a long term failure rate of 90-95%
>90-95%
because 90-95% of people are weak willed
Even if I grant you that, if we know that 95% of people don't have the willpower to lose weight through diet and exercise, does it make sense to tell people to lose weight through diet and exercise?
yes?
fitness and weight loss are solved problems, just because people don't listen doesn't mean you should change the correct answer
>give people the correct answer
>They don't follow through on their goals
>the correct answer is somehow what's wrong with this equation
Mental
what is your alternative?
complain on IST
>95% of people don't have the willpower
Won't doesn't imply can't. There are tons of things that most people won't do but that they obviously can. "Don't have the willpower" is just a convoluted way of saying that they won't do something that clearly they can do.
I am skinny enough that my ribs are a bit visible and just did 7 pullups yesterday.
It's about health, I eat as much of whatever I want, I can skip breakfast and lunch with no problems because my liver releases enough glucose or whatever the important thing is.
Willpower is not supposed to be necessary, if your body doesn't automatically regulate things then somethings wrong, you cannot force yourself to eat less than you need forever.
Also you shouldn't follow diet plans, just pay attention to hwo you feel before eating, what you want, and how you feel afterwards.
Only eat as much as you actually want, dont force yourself to eat more just put it in the fridge.
Also heaviness can be caused just by being difficult to digest and having a heavy quality, while being okay in other aspects, it's not optimal but if you feel heaviness and a bit sluggish after eating its not necessarily poison, so long as its not too serious, also not necessarily about ingredients in general but their combination and method of preparation also walk 100 steps after eating and don't talk or read something etc while eating.
Sorry for moronic structure errors and typos, I will go to sleep now, it's very important.
People don't know what the correct sleep is, I did it for a while and I can say that 9pm approximately and waking up naturally is the best, there is a toned feeling in the body along with a desire to move, then go for a walk for one hour to invigorate circulation, also sleep on the side with bent legs if not uncomfortable if uncomfortable get as close to that position as reasonable.
If 95% of people can't accept that santa isn't real are you going to start believing or call them morons
95% is a lot and there has never been 95% consensus on like anything. At that point I'd go at least check. Who frickin knows! I've never been up there!
modern obesity was industrially mass produced
the fix will also have to be industrially mass produced (semiglutide pills, etc)
Because 90-95% go back to their old habits
Hi Boogie! I didn't know you frequent this board.
>mfw
I lost 35lbs (from 224 to 189) over the past ~5 months. I plan to go down to 182lbs and then keep tracking kcal and maintain until april. Maybe then slowly try to fade out the tracking.
Should i keep tracking for longer to give my body time to adjust?
>mfw I found out OP is moronic.
>nothing is my fault
coping thirdworlder stay poor
You have the reading comprehension of a turd worlder.
he summed up your point fairly concisely imo
I maintain 12%ish bf effortlessly, even at 30. Why are you fat people so worthless and weak willed?
it can be hard, but that's not an excuse
Habits, macros, calorie counting, none of this shit matters in the end because the food supply is quite literally not even food. If you’re not blessed with a garbage disposal metabolism then it’s going to be a constant struggle. Forever. That’s why it feels like being fat is permanent. Even when people shed the weight, they can’t avoid never relapsing.
It's true that 99% of obese people have no control over their eating habits. That is why I propose we force them to give their food to the hungry. On foot.
You sound like a woman who wants a liposuction