They say stuff like something something my shoulder etc. They aren't inexperienced and ignorant zoomies either. What's the rational behind not benching, and is it actually a better time allocation?
>more and more of my gym friends are quiting bench press
I haven't done flat bench in months. I still do decline bench, but do the rest of my chest from other exercises. It unironically was messing with my shoulder.
>inb4 bad form, etc.
My form was fine, my shoulders are just moronic.
OHP and deadlifts are worse for you and even more worthless for building muscle. They’re probably just pussies. I’ve been benching 2-3x a week for 6 years and have never had an injury from it, but have had several from OHP/squat/dl
it's almost like our bodies and different and excel at different exercises mmmmm
It's not as important, I have always wondered why it was the most popular one.
OHP and deadlift are completely unnecessary. Bench has its place. Squat is great but it’s not as fun and makes you look awful if you overtrain it
Laying down smartphone position
Good. It's a garbage chest exercise.
And what do you recommend instead?
incline dumbell
Weighted dips are king
Just fricks your spine having the weight pushing through your cord ...not a good idea unless you want to be a cripple.
At what weight does that happen? 1rm is above 60kg now @ 72kg and my core seems to hold the weight up fine.
king of giving me lower chest strains
Its a suboptimal but very fun meme lift. If you care about shoulder health and pec development you do dumbbell bench. Dont ask me though, I have sever pectus excavatum and cant have a nice chest anyways. But also OHP is better with dbs so I think its true
am i your friend? i finally gave up benching 2 weeks ago. could never get the form down no matter the weight and progressive overload didn’t work.
now i do dumbell press and dips. especially dips feels like i’m splitting the red sea in my chest, it has to be my favorite chest exercise
Yes, we're friends
Holy moly, not a single person in this thread has ever touched lmao2plate on the bench, embarrassig, go back to r/fitness.
I have. I still do flat bb bench because its fun but its just not that amazing of a lift.
I'll be honest
I have never benched more than 135lbs
Benching with a bar hurts my shoulders.
I don't squat either it hurts my lower back.
If it hurts me I don't do it.
(I just did 10 push ups tho)
Still stronger than 80% of IST
youre a pussy. I've had shoulder pain. Faced it. Lift double of what I used to without any. I've had lower back pain. Faced it. Lift triple of what I used to without any. You on the other hand pussied out. That's gay as frick.
joint health and quality of life is more important than the cult of bodybuilding.
>you're a pussy
does that work on people? lol
>>does that work on people? lol
only on the most insecure
When I first started lifting I was really paranoid about pain and permanently damaging myself. I remember lifting some dumbbells of utterly laughably small weight around and feeling something in my spine/back afterwards and freaking out wondering if I had done something to my spine. In fairness it was an odd sensation that I wouldn't like to feel today but the only reason I felt it was because I had done so little with my spine that it was basically paper mache, and dare I mention I was over 30 at this point. Later I realized I was completely normal, I just had never lifted, and actually had even avoided heavy lifting under the misguided idea I could destroy my back doing it. So these exercises can definitely hurt for a while.
I havent done bench in over 2 months. I just can't find a way to make it work with push ups.
>do it before push ups
>harder push up variations become impossible
>do it after push ups
>get crushed by bar
You could do higher rep lower weight burnout sets of bench after push ups.
bench press is the best gauge of RAW PHYSICAL STRENGTH. you only downplay this because you're a pudgy, weak little shit of a manlet with an equally embarrassing bench press.
Well, I can't see any purpose in it too. Why can't I just adding weight on lets say flies and doing hypetrophy training after I reach solid 50kg on one arm or smt?
That's quite a ... ... suggestive image you've got there.
Why did they have to ruin it with faeces. A beautiful bwc dildo or even a nice iron rod.
benchbros im a noob going in for the maybe third time this week tomorrow
how much should i put on at first once i'm comfortable with the motion with just the bar
Add 10 lbs to each side
Do 5 reps
Add 5 lbs
Do 5 reps
Continue until you find a working weight
Squats and bench press filter zoomers hard.
>Bryce Dallas Howard
dude HOW do you get the AI to do this?!?
photobashing and then inpainting bits it didn't get right, it got the face wrong to start and made the poop into a wooden pole
And they say AI isn't part of a creative process. Do you have the wooden pole image saved?
save it quick before I'm banned
Thanks anon, you are a gentleman and a scholar
>jan 23 benching 2pl8 for reps peak bulk all bros miring
>july 23 deadly afraid to bench, peak cut can't even bench 1.5pl8 and always need a spot after binge watching bench press death vids
Its unironically over how easily manipulated i can get. nowadays i just bodyweight dip every 3 days. chest gaisn are near zero now
I don’t have a spotter
It's because it's fricking up their shoulders like they already told you. Almost everyone that benches decent weight will eventually run into shoulder problems.
I was doing dips twice a week but then felt a tweak around my rotator cuff about 2 months ago that never went away and now im doing bench. Sad. I think dips really did work my chest better but its not worth the rotator cuff damage. Hoping it goes away soon
Weighted dips fricked up my shoulders (different ones) TWICE, and both times I basically had to significantly lower all the weights involving shoulders for MONTHS.
I’m talking baby weights, it was basically physiotherapy workouts.
I tried to just rest it out but the shoulder pain never went away for weeks until I started lifting again with baby weights.
I’m never doing dips again.
Never had issues with bench.
By the way I went to a doc that specializes in this stuff and he said it was a tear in my cartilage and the pain will never go away without surgery. But it did so he was wrong.
Were you doing parallel dips or ring dips? I was doing bar dips on parallel bars and I felt something weird in my bicep and shoulder so I stopped. Ive been doing ring dips now and it feels a lot better. I still am careful but I think when most people have issues on rings it is caused form bar dips, or people just doing them with terrible form.
Maybe it doesn’t work for them, but if it works for you do it (but incline bench is better)
i just bench 2 3 times a month to hit and see what the max is i can hit, in terms of building muslce it isnt good because of stress on the joints and somewhat limited range of motion, dumbbells are superior on this regard although o always incline press on smith machine on chest day
I lift in a gym in the basement at work that’s nearly always empty and I’m scared of benching when no one will hear me scream after I’ve dropped the bar on my self
It's better to do pushups.