>more and more people adopting veganism
>more and more athletes adopting veganism
>more and more success stories about how veganism improved their health massively
how does it feel to be slowly, yet surely losing, carnitards?
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Don't care. Eating meat for lunch.
Bon appetit! I'll still be enjoying delicious vegan meals for many decades after you're left 6ft underground!
I will never die
Unfortunately, you won't make it past 65. Meat is terrible for your heart. Makes sense since humans aren't designed to eat meat.
Humans are designed to die
Humans are designed to die ASAP
All points are wrong.
Should I be a vegan?
I only want to eat carrots, raw
I feel like I'm doomed to fail if I don't bunnymax and be a carrotchad at carrotville and frick carrotmoms and bunny bumpkins
You have Judy Hops poster on your wall covered in semen, don't you?
isn't that everyone?
The improved feelings resulting from veganism happen for the same reason it happens with every diet: the diet removes all the terrible foods they were eating that made them feel like shit. They would just get the same feeling from trying any other restrictive diet or from just cooking their own meals at home.
Food allergies that cause very minor symptoms are also much more common than people think. With how over processed food is now with all sorts of extra ingredients meant for stabilization it's no wonder people are eating shit that makes them feel bad. Turns out when you stop eating shit you're allergic to, you feel better.
>the diet removes all the terrible foods
yes, meat and dairy
>meat and dairy
This would include mcdonalds cheeseburgers and beef liver and greek yogurt
When your diet is this broad and restrictive you have to point to specifics. I'd sooner eat a healthy vegan meal than a shitty goyslop one with meat and cheese but I'd prefer a healthy one with animal protein overall. Saying kale and broccoli beats McDonald's is incredibly disingenuous it would be like if I said beer and french fries are bad for you therefore veganism kills. Not technically wrong just misleading.
>the diet removes all the terrible foods they were eating that made them feel like shit
Yeah meat
>I'll ignore all the hundreds of millions of healthy people who eat meat daily and live as long or longer than vegans and vegetarians because my entire foundation of delusion relies on my wearing blinders to everything that contradicts my quasi-religion diet!
At least you make this clear.
>pivot
Ok
I'm not the same anon your vegangay ass is arguing with.
I'm just a guy who knows how vegans twist themselves into pretzels trying to explain how they deny reality at every moment to make claims of things that aren't real, all because their diet is a religion and isn't based on actual long-term evidence of being beneficial for anyone but goyslop swillers.
Sorry that you were exposed this easily, OP, maybe you can make a new thread and act like less of a moronic sperg to keep the ruse going longer.
>replying to a post chain with irrelevant nonsems eisnt a pivot if its not the same guy
I did t read past the first sentence, dont care.
>I feel so good I need to constantly preach to strangers on the internet
gay cult.
I'm just promoting health.
So you support eating properly reared meat as part of a diet? Good
Meat is bad for your heart. This has been proven to the point of redundancy.
Never been proven and doesn't make any sense
Genetical, clinical and epidemiological studies on the aggregate say saturated fat is bad for health, meat is a rich source of saturated fat therefore meat is bad for health
Everything is bad for your health in some way, whether it clogs arteries, or causes inflammation, or makes you fat, or whatever. Just eat a balanced diet in healthy portion sizes. Why does everything need to be a min/maxxed meme diet?
No clinical study has proven this
Yes they have
>Critical importance. Reducing saturated fat intake probably reduces cardiovascular events (to a greater extent with greater cholesterol reduction).
>When we subgrouped according to replacement for SFA, the PUFA replacement group suggested a 21% reduction in cardiovascular events, a 16% reduction in studies replacing SFA with carbohydrate
https://www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr/doi/10.1002/14651858.CD011737.pub3/full
I’m curious, been reading that source.
>The included long‐term trials suggested that reducing dietary saturated fat reduced the risk of combined cardiovascular events by 17%
But then it goes to say.
>We found little or no effect of reducing saturated fat on all‐cause mortality (RR 0.96; 95% CI 0.90 to 1.03; 11 trials, 55,858 participants) or cardiovascular mortality (RR 0.95; 95% CI 0.80 to 1.12, 10 trials, 53,421 participants), both with GRADE moderate‐quality evidence.
>There was little or no effect of reducing saturated fats on non‐fatal myocardial infarction (RR 0.97, 95% CI 0.87 to 1.07) or CHD mortality (RR 0.97, 95% CI 0.82 to 1.16, both low‐quality evidence), but effects on total (fatal or non‐fatal) myocardial infarction, stroke and CHD events (fatal or non‐fatal) were all unclear as the evidence was of very low quality. There was little or no effect on cancer mortality, cancer diagnoses, diabetes diagnosis, HDL cholesterol, serum triglycerides or blood pressure, and small reductions in weight, serum total cholesterol, LDL cholesterol and BMI. There was no evidence of harmful effects of reducing saturated fat intakes.
The thing is, those people probably avoided McDonald’s and shit to avoid saturated fat. Which would be beneficial for their heart.
>probably
That's not a clinical study. And there's no mortality difference.
veganism ftw
>more and more success stories about how veganism improved their health massively
if you start from an ~~*American diet*~~ you can do vegan, keto, paleo, mediterranean (okay that one's actually good but) etc. and see massive improvement.
t. vegetarian
Black person homosexual i feel ashamed for replying
dumb corpse eater meme
You know there are supplements, right?
If your diet requires supplementation, it cannot possibly be what we were designed to eat.
Whats the point of killing animals and the ecosystem when you can eat vegan and supplements?
I'm getting really fricking tired of dipshits thinking that they are doing anything to help the environment by eating vegan. Unless you are buying your food exclusively from farmers markets, you are still hurting the environment with your diet. Industrialized agriculture, whether for plants or animals, is bad for the environment.
latest research puts vegan diet at 20% of environmental impact compared to unique snowflake alternative diets with meat
Are you aware just how much meat you can produce from all of the inherent by products of growing that vegan diet by feeding it to an animal?
>Mic the Vegan
Haha, thanks for the laugh, anon.
all you need to do to realize it's true is to stop screeching and grow some spine
can you read?
grow up and stop being a stupid child
Neither of you address the problem.
Consider everything that you eat then think of how the raw product is grown.
Like beans, oats, carrots, nuts, etc, etc
To grow, harvest, and process these crops, byproducts are inevitable. these byproducts are part of the human edible food production process and are effectively fully costed into that.
And it doesn't address the point, are you aware just how much meat can be grown by using all the stalks, chaff, rejections, and processing byproducts for livestock production.
This is pretty much free meat after you went to all that trouble to grow the crop then only consume what? 30% of it?
Yeah monocropping, shipping exotic fruits all over the world, and endless plastic are great for the environment lol get the frick out of here WEF shill
go eat your plastic shit, homosexual
>Whats the point of killing animals and the ecosystem when you can eat vegan and supplements?
posted from my iphone
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I know half a dozen vegans personally and all of them are small, thin and sickly looking
>muh unverifiable anonymously presented personal anecdotes
vegans are gay
Feels good, man. Fewer people eating meat means more for me.
>eat meat
>also eat plant
>get benefits of both
herbivores and carnivores btfo
Eating plants provides no benefits only plant toxins and anti nutrients
plants are high in vitamin e, vitamin c, pufa, folate, fiber etc, all of which are beneficial for health, antinutrients are irrelevant and are destroyed during cooking
>muh nutrients destroyed during cooking
You dumb Black person
Keep going.
Why are you homosexuals giving this oxygen? Just hide and move on
>huh let me tell the vegan I eat meat
No, you don't understand. The more we support the vegans, the worse their collective immune system becomes due to malnourishment and diet carrot cake abuse, and eventually everyone who's even remotely sane will be left while vegans will vanish from this earth naturally.
It's the same with the fatties. Let them spread the body positivity until the situation becomes so severe that governments around the globe have to take action, but of course it will be too late. At the same time, we will lift, eat healthy and improve our well-being as we did in the past and will in the future.
If someone wants to be a weak, soiboy vegan because "muh health", then sure, let them be stupid. But the next person to tell me they're vegan because it's environmentally friendly is getting a boot up their ass.
>But the next person to tell me they're vegan because it's environmentally friendly is getting a boot up their ass.
why? if that's literally the case
Nope
Actually, as a former vegan industry insider, I can tell you that
>veganism has been on a rapid decline for new followers since 2020
>fewer athletes have been adopting it, most who did have given up on it as I followed some who gave up within their first 3-6 months
>nobody whose health was "improved by veganism" wasn't eating a shit-tier diet before. Anyone who eats correctly and balanced will see no benefit from veganism. Anyone who was living on McDonald's 3x/day will most likely see improvement on veganism.
But, still gonna report this because it's not fitness, it's a meme diet for gays.
felt bad when I tried vegan.
felt bad when I tried carnivore.
felt great when I went back to omnivore.
Don’t care meat products will still exist in 50 years and at that point I’ll be dead or heading there. I’ll let the next generation handle the matrix goo future.
Allah allowed us to eat meat so I will eat meat
>be normie
>hear about veganism
>eat decent quantities of vegetables for the first time in your life.
>feel better
>wow this vegan shit is great
>stay on the vegan diet for a while
>start to feel shit because of nutrient deficiencies from all veggie diet
>go crazy
>teeth feel loose
>muscles weaker
>in a craze you steal neighbours dog and eat it
>feel better
>...
You know how animals like cows have a massive fermentation vat for a stomach that lets them eat just grass right?
Does the fact that they're actually digesting all the bacteria, fungi and protozoa that feed off the plants still count as vegan?
Did you just assume the dietary preferences of cows? We live in a modern society, you could've at least asked them if they are omnivores or herbivores.
How rude. I'm going to check your internet activity for the past 10 years to see if I can uncover anything dirty in order to blackmail you.
Stay safe, grass sisters.
is this a way to try and blame veganism for the athletes that are dropping dead from the vax? if so, vegans may be homosexuals but I will not let you cover up vaids
don't care about your propaganda, still eating meat
Amen, brother.
Its true OP i was a 250lb chad bodybuilder who pulled a lot of women when i took of my shirt and after going vegan im much smaller and healthier. Pic related is me now.
VEGAN BROOS LETS GOOO
nippmaxxing with some tofu rn
I have no data to back it up but I feel like veganism reached a peak like 5 years ago and it's been declining ever since
carnivore diet tards make up a cringe reactionary movement that has only gained popularity due to IG and tiktok influencers trying to sell off their grass fed meat and offal; this movement will definitely not last either.
I'm just so sick of you minmaxing absolutist homosexuals who can't just eat a normal diet free from fast food. I barely ever even eat fast food anymore because I stopped drinking and the prices have gone up so much from inflation that it just makes more sense to cook at home which I was already doing anyway.
here's a quick google trends search
https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=veganism,carnivore%20diet&hl=en-US
https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=vegan%20diet,carnivore%20diet&hl=en-US
seems like I'm right and search interest in veganism did peak around 2017-2018 which coincides with the start of carnivore shilling as a reaction
if you look up stuff like "beyond burger" or "beyond meats", it shows a huge spike in searches when they were first announced and then a massive decline
>it shows a huge spike in searches when they were first announced and then a massive decline
"Hey bro did you find your wallet"?
"Yeah but I'm looking for it still"
no one is interested in buying your onions burgers anymore, shlomo
>vegans get injured by sneezing
Poetry.
You've just made my day.
It feels bad knowing that many must go through the trials of permanently harming their bodies to eventually loop back around to eating carnivore, however, vegans are closer to carnivores than standard American dieters precisely because they will eventually learn how ruinous plants are to a human's health. Unfortunately, you will never recover from the brain damage that a well-organized vegan diet induces, or worse, you might die agonizingly slowly from a less-organized and meticulously tracked vegan diet.