>most males in 2023 are clinically overweight
>the average BMI for men over the age of 20 is 28.6
You're not clinically overweight are you? A healthy adult male has a BMI of under 25
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an adult male should be 800 pounds
>every scale worldwide
23 BMI but still a gross skinnyfat
>BMI 21
>trying to get to 25
I have BMI of 33. Resting heart rate of 46. Anons probably won't believe me.
A slow heart rate at higher fat is a bad thing. You have more mass and you're not moving blood around as well. Your blood is likely getting clogged with fat and other gunk. I'd get checked out rather than thinking you're OK and healthy when you know you're not
I guess were supposed to be impressed by your awesome health and athleticism?
kek this is bad fatty.
Jesus I would have to be 150lbs to not be overweight.
I haven't weighed that since middle school
I have a BMI of 28... However, I'm actively working on it. Was 33+ just a few months ago. Should drop below 25 not later than by the end of May.
27 but i've worked out 6 days a week for the last 3 years. Im happy with how i look, if i die early atleast i die looking how i want.
I have a BMI of 30 while having a six pack. That's how you know you've made it
>6 pack while obese
You're either on steroids or delusional. Post body
Ronnie Coleman had a BMI of 40 while shredded. It's not unreasonable to be both obese and lean if juicing.
Obese means you have too much fat whereas Ronnie was more bloated with water weight and unusually high amount of muscle for someone his height from the steroid use.
The definition of clinical obesity is directly tied to your BMI, with a range of values representing underweight, normal weight, overweight and obese
Clinical definition is useful for the dyel who sits on their ass and eats cake all day. But it's wrong otherwise.
Cope. Obese means your body is carrying too much weight. Muscle AND fat.
If you were truly physically healthy you'd have a healthy BMI. If you're skinny fat you're BMI might be healthy but you're still physically unfit. If you're physically fit but fat you'll show up as overweight on the chart.
Be a healthy BMI while being physically fit and stop coping
>BMI of 30 with six pack
Eddie Hall levels of visceral fat.
Eddie hall had liposuction to get his 6 pack
Visceral fat is underneath the abs.
He still needed liposuction to get the 6 pack though so "visceral fat" doesn't matter
Source for him having liposuction? Seems highly unnecessary for a strongman.
>Seems highly unnecessary for a strongman.
It was after he retired. He 'only' lost 30kg but still got deep ab cuts at 6'1 and 330lbs
>BMI: 24
Whew. Just made it.
My BMI is 19
>BMI: 27
I'm starting to developp man boobs at this point. Could I get under 21 before summer or is it too late ?
>6'5"
>160 lbs
>Ideal
>tfw bmi of 25 but still look small
I need to go to the dark side
Sorry anons, the numbers have been updated. If you're not 20 BMI or below you're fat.
>5'7 140
>fat
I'm 5'7 144 and Im not fat. I have a 3 pack, and a V. I'd have to get down to about 140 or 135-130 to really have a well defined 6 pack though
Frick off atrophied manlet. No one cares about your eating disorders. You're gonna die prematurely of osteoporosis anyway
I'm at 26
I'm overweight, but I've been losing weight.
I was at 34.6 January before last. I'm doing pretty gud.
>go to the spa a few weeks ago with a mate as we got free tickets
>it was quite crowded towards the evening
>literally every single man was overweight
>ranging from skinnyfat dyels to bigchungus
I was literally the best looking guy in the whole spa, being 15% bofyfat (winter bulk) and DYEL by IST standards.
This is horrible.
Even though you told this story a few times it still fills me with motivation. Makes me proud of myself for being fit (also proud of you <3)
Seeing all those fat guys motivated to keep going and to lift even harder.
Is it bad that my goal weight (gaining) would put me in the overweight category? That sucks. Should I stop?
>Is it bad that my goal weight (gaining) would put me in the overweight category? That sucks. Should I stop?
No, and no. BMI is a pretty accurate indicator of health for the average person (who is a fat fricking lardball) but it doesn't do anything to account for fat %. Being overweight on BMI is nothing to worry about if it's caused by muscle - just make sure it's actually muscle and not just cope.
25 Bmi and 12 pbf.
Twink b***h.
I mog all of you fatties.
pic
Goals
Back to IST
Fricking how
I'm at 30BMI but I'm 6'3, 240 and competing in strongman, and I still think I'm a fat c**t. Most people I meet tell me I'm fricking massive or some variation of that. How is the average person that close to my BMI?
BMI doesn't account for muscle mass, because it's for the average person and the average person isn't a strongman competitor. The average man doesn't even lift.
That's what I mean, I'm fricking huge and even I'm only just over the 'average' BMI. I can't belive the average man is that much of a fat frick
In muscular men, bf% is much more important than BMI (at least for looks; for health, it's debatable). So while the average man has almost your BMI, he's much fatter than you - which doesn't mean that you aren't a fatass.
Overweight but want to become obese and eventually severely obese. I don't give a frick if I'm 5'9 my goal is to break every WR and leave the bar so high no human can reach it until the advent of transhumanism and then I'll forever be remembered as the strongest natty who ever lived.
I am clinically overweight and can run a 5 min mile
Problem?
No you can't
Running a single mile in 5 mins isn't that hard, it's maintaining that pace that's difficult
Lol it’s basically the rooner equivalent of a 315 pound bench press boyo
A fatty is not sprinting for 5 minutes straight
Nah, got a genetically great rooooners build with long limbs and small ankles/wrists but it doesn’t translate well to lifting at all
same, us lanklets suck ass at pressing movements but can improove at deadlifts and other pulls pretty easily
24.7 BMI down from 37ish
barley out of overweight, very much entered skinnyfat mode
started going to the gym a month ago, hopefully in 5-6 months and with some more dieting I'll overcome skinnyfat mode as well...
>A healthy adult male has a BMI of under 25
You're not a real man if your body weight starts with a 1
cope fatty, post body
This but in kilograms. Fatties are not men, they're closer to women both in appearance and in self-control.
after one month of bulking I'm finally 21 BMI
Have a BMI of exactly 24.9. But I'm pretty muscular, so I would have a BMI of 22 to 23 with normal amount of muscle mass.
I have a bmi of 27.4 currently. Coming down from 39.1 Jesus Christ I'm sorry. I am conscious of the damages I've done to my humanity and fighting each day to retake it. Battling this demon is my life.
>the average BMI for men over the age of 20 is 28.6
wow. I fraud and I'm not over 28. I'm not exactly the leanest guy in the gym either.
And all these fat slobs say the BMI scale doesnt apply to them because they lifted weights in high school and think they still have lots of muscle under their blubber.
>overweight at 6'3 and 200
curious
>bmi of 28.1
Nice
bmi is moronic. only bf % matters
According to this I’m just barely overweight but idk I look fine
I’m cutting atm anyway
BMI is pointless. I'd ignore it. You can be healthy with a low BF% and still have a high BMI and the chart will claim you're obese. Pic related is "overweight" with 10.8% BF, 6'2", and 212 lbs since his BMI is 27. The numbers you should be paying attention to are BF% (you can get this measured by a doctor) and FFMI. FFMI is calculated from height, weight, and BF%. In the case of FFMI, you want a higher FFMI. Somewhere between 20 and 25. Pic related has a FFMI very close to 25.
>posts a roidtroony as a healthy example
Kek
Steve Reeves has not yet been proven to be a roidtroony and never has been. Also his FFMI is within the range of what could be expected for natties and the steroids of the time were fairly weak. In the case of methyltestosterone, it had a short life within the bloodstream because it was quickly deactivated by the liver and much of it was deactivated by the digestive system since it was orally administered. Testosterone propitiate had severe androgenic effects including things like hairloss and severe acne even at lower doses so this would more likely than not have deterred body builders at the time from using it. So it's very likely that he was just a natty with great genetics whose muscles were built from his years of training up to that point.
Imagine defending a roidtroony this hard. Youre not going to get residual testosterone from his cum in your face. You don't have to suck his wiener this much
Except he's not a roidtroony. Just because you're angry that you're still skinny fat doesn't make Steve Reeves a roidtroony. It's more likely that he had the right combination of genes to maximize his hypertrophy with his particular training routine. His FFMI was less than 25 which is within the natty range. Whereas as the muscle growth from steroid use tends to put someone significantly above the natty limit of 25 FFMI (at least 26 FFMI).
>You don't have to suck his wiener this much
I'm not sucking his. I'm using him as an example of someone who is most likely a natty athlete who had 6+ years of consistent weightlifting before competing.
>This 1 person in history had perfect genetics. Sure nobody has been able to do the same without drugs but this 1 guy was about to do it. Therefore you are wrong
bruh
>>This 1 person in history had perfect genetics
moron. I never said perfect genetics. I said the right combination of genes to maximize hypertrophy with his particular routine. But you can red herring and straw man all you want. It still doesn't give you an argument.
>>Sure nobody has been able to do the same without drugs but this 1 guy was about to do it.
And this is where you show how low your IQ really is. The professional body builders who did drugs for gains who had about the same height got more muscle mass at a lower BF%. Average body builder after Danabol was synthesized typically were much heavier and had much lower BF%. So it's not the same at all as what Reeves got. They exceeded what Reeves did by a fairly large margin.
you are wrong
Yes. You are wrong. And you have yet to provide any meaningful counterarguments. What are you going to do next, claim you were just trolling and pretending to be moronic?
Plenty of people were able to accomplish what he did.
Grimek is very interesting since his physique at the time was after 25+ years of training.
BMI is a perfectly good metric unless you are an advanced roider or elite natty athlete.
Everything else is cope for fat shit slobs.
Nothing makes fat people seethe and fly into a state of denial that never before existed like a good BMI thread.
>BMI is a perfectly good metric
It's not. It's way too simple to be a good metric. Skinnyfats have low BMI and there's nothing healthy about being a skinnyfat. They also have really low FFMI (something like 16-18) which indicates that there's nothing healthy about being skinnyfat. At most BMI tells you that you're fat and need to lose weight if it's way to high. It doesn't tell you anything outside of that.
>advanced roider
They tend to have much greater than 25 FFMI. Someone like Arnold during his peak was 6'3" at 235 lbs with a BF% like 7-8 (standard in the golden era) had an FFMI of 26+. Someone like Christ Bumstead, 6'1", 215 lbs, BF% around 5-7% will have almost 27 FFMI. These are well above what is possible for natties (natties realistically can have 25 at most).
>elite natty athlete
If you are relatively muscular and have a relatively low BF% (10-15%), depending on your weight, you can expect an FFMI greater than 20. A 6'0" tall guy at 170 lbs (skinny to average for that height and doesn't take much work to be at or maintain) with a BF% of 10% will have an FFMI of around 20. Gaining 10 lbs of fat so that he's now 180 lbs, he'll still be at the same FFMI of a little more than 20. If he gained say 10 lbs of muscle over a year and kept the same BF%, then he's be at almost 22 FFMI. According to the BMI chart he would be getting fat in both cases. But the FFMI in the former case is constant telling you that you're not gaining muscle you're getting fat while BMI only says you're closer to become "overweight." However it's still decent. In the latter case, FFMI tells you that you're getting strong through more muscle and the BMI still says you're starting to become "overweight." If he was still 10% BF and got to 190 lbs, he's now be at FFMI of over 23. Meanwhile the BMI chart would say he's overweight in the same way as if he would have gained that weight in terms of fat (190 lbs at 20% BF). FFMI and BF% are better even for the average person.
I'm not reading all that but if you had to type so much just to attempt to disprove something as simple as BMI then you have to realize that you're coping
My post did disprove BMI. If you're too lazy to read it and to stupid to consider the realities about BMI I present and then dogmatically pretend that something like BMI means anything, then you're to stupid to be taken seriously. A very low IQ and low quality post on your part.
Cope. Spoken like a true 27er
This is nothing but fat people cope.
Yes their always exceptions and genetic outliers.
But for almost 100% of the natty population, BMI is an accurate metric.
And BMI is still a major risk factor for cardiovascular problems whether you 300lbs of blubber or 300lbs of solid muscle because your heart cant tell the difference.
I roid but I am not in denial about the dangers of high BMI.
tldr: you are fat
180 cm 65 kg, still skinny fat with a gut, how much do i need to lose ?
Mines 22-23 depending on water weight
Wrong.
>Our results are similar to those from other recent studies, confirming that underweight and obesity class II+ are clear risk factors for mortality, and showing that when compared to the acceptable BMI category, overweight appears to be protective against mortality.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19543208/
Obese actually. But only overweight by bf. Not cutting until I finish out my 1.5/3/4/5
how do you measure your height?
I use some sort of measuring device like a tape measure.
>5'7
>135lbs
>apparently Im healthy
wtf I thought I was underweight this entire time
In practical terms you're definitely underweight as a man. Unless you're highly specialized into running, you should try to pack on some mass with lifting.
I did a super cardio heavy sport in college so it was always difficult to pack on weight. Hopefully now that Im done I can pack on pounds and actually get my lifts up
That's a good plan. It's fine to be cardio heavy still, not like I'm advocating bloatmaxxing, as you age you'll lose some of that metabolism.
No, but 135 is really light for a man and tells me that there's not much muscle. 155 is a much more sensible weight, good balance of strength and overall athleticism. I weighed that in high school doing both weightlifting and cross country, and was nowhere near big let alone too big.
155 is literally overweight. Misery loves company. He has abs and you want him to be fat.
Stop typing essays. 3 sentences at most. Steve is a fraud.
You are coping.
You are fat.
>3 sentences at most.
You haven't read my post.
You have provided no counterarguments.
You are still wrong.
Now be willing to read the post or frick off. Posting low the low quality trash on your part just makes you look even more moronic.
Jesus christ you really made me have to do a simple Google search. If only you were as competent in fact checking as you are in dick sucking
I've seen that before. The mistake is treating just what this one guy, who is an unreliable source
1. Sergio claimed Arnold was the first to bring steroids from Europe which is false because Danabol started being used in the mid-50's by body builders and athletes before Arnold even came to America. This is the first red flag. Sergio doesn't know what he's talking about with this claim. But if Arnold was really the first to bring steroids from Europe as Sergio claimed (falsely), then that was well after Reeves stopped competing (more than a decade) and Reeves would not have had access to them when he was competing.
2. Reeves stopped competing more than a decade before Sergio start competing. There is no sign that he even knew Reeves personally or even knew about his practices as a bodybuilder as Steve switched to acting around 1953 and stopped competing in Mr. Universe. Sergio was 12 years old at that point probably didn't even go to a gym at the point. He didn't even come to the US until after 1961 when he escaped to the American Embassy in Jamaica during the Olympic games and hence wouldn't have even started competing in the US until more than a decade after Reeves stopped competing. Finally, Sergio was living in Florida at the time where Reeves was living in California so they wouldn't have ran into each-other at the gym either.
Even though Zane, Arnold, and himself did use them for example He's not a reliable source in this matter. Using him as a source is just dishonest. You're even dumber than I first thought if you're going to use Sergio as a source. The author of that article is just as dumb since he can't do the basic historical research to realize that Sergio didn't know shit. You really like to make yourself look stupid don't you?
What happened to our 3 sentence limitation. Nobody has time for your essays. Find a source that says Sergio is a liar
I can make fifteen posts proving the fact that your "source" is nonsense.
> Find a source that says Sergio is a liar
It's called wikipedia. Compare the dates you fricking troglodyte.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergio_Oliva
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Reeves
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metandienone
Here's the guy who synethesize Danabol
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Bosley_Ziegler
Sergio doesn't know shit. Neither do you.
There's no convincing this guy. He'll keep crying fraud till the cows come home so that he can feel good about being small (but atleast he's healthy according to the BMI!)
Sergio started bodybuilding in the mid 60's, Steve Reeves stopped competing before 1950. That's a 15 year differance. They were not contemporaries and I doubt they even met eachother. The 50's-60's is exactly when steroids started seeing proper use in bodybuilding and it is very noticable in regards to how much bigger the physiques became in the mid 50's to 60's. Steve Reeves has himself said he never too any drugs, and he lived in an era of bodybuilding before drugs. The only source to the contrary is a second hand account from Sergio Olivia who was applying what had become commonplace in his time to Reeves. That's not exactly proof. And in any case, Steve Reeves is one man. There are dozens of other examples of extremely impressive Silver and Bronze Era physiques to choose from, many well before steroids existed even in an ineffective form. I don't know why you seem so hell-bent on thinking that any remotely impressive physique is impossible naturally.
Really goes to show how much of a meme the "natty limit" is. Gains slow down, but they never stop.
We already had the "omg silver age bodybuilders were actually on roids" thread
Are you talking about the bait thread on Natty Life's "I was wrong" video? Because what he was "wrong" about was not that Silver Era bodybuilders were natty, they were, but that there existed no interest in steroids. Steroids still did not get introduced systematically or effectively in bodybuilding until the late 50s.
Lmao cope. The word of an outsider vs someone who was really in the scene. Keep believing in super heroes. Thor and the Rock are natty btw. Don't ever meet your heroes kid
(you)
>someone who was really in the scene
And Reeves was not in the scene during the 1940 and early 1950's. So this is not a valid argument on your part. BTW appeal to authority is a logical fallacy, especially for someone it takes to only a paragraph listing the facts of the matter and hence cannot be a trustworthy authority on the matter. For example, he never knew Reeves, he didn't start competing until the 60's, and he got the timeline on steroid introduction into the US market specifically for athletes wrong.
>The word of an outsider
The historical facts are only needed here to debunk Sergio as doing nothing but talking out of his ass about things he knows nothing about. You don't have to be an insider of any kind to know this.
>Thor and the Rock are natty btw
Except the Rock is not. I don't know anything about the actor who played in the Marvel movie though. Nor did I claim they were natties.
test was synthesized in the 30s, of course guys were using it prior to the 50s. Steroids are very mild and can be done responsibly. I don't understand why they illicit so much seethe.
Because the guys that use steroids mildly all claim natty like Mr. Reeves
>overweight
Yeah by normalgay never touched a weight standards, stop trying to groom him into your twink bottom.
Let me guess. A real man weighs 200lbs? 5'7 135 is the perfect weight for 6 pack abs.
26 bmi 12% bodyfat 27 inch waist
>A healthy adult male has a BMI of under 25
This is assuming you have absolutely 0 muscle mass. Body fat % is a much better indicator (you should be somewhere between 12-18).
I looked my best when I strove to be at the exact halfway point between underweight and overweight. I was a real headturner for a few months. Only because I got lean to do it though, at 23.7 rn and close to as lean as I was then whilst being 5-6kg heavier. I should have ''''maingained''' instead of getting fat in the interim though.
Overweight in the morning, obese at night.
According to the chart I'm a BMI of 17
>t.
>5’6”
>200lbs
>90kg
>BMI 32
>2000 calories per day TDEE at sedentary
>only allowed 1200 calories a day if I want to lose 2lbs a week
>going to take 25 weeks to reach normal BMI (150lb)
>this sucks
If you can deadlift a minimum of 2.5x bw, squat 2x bw and your bmi is under 30.
You'll be fine.
Doesn't matter how much/little muscle mass you have when your bmi is over 30. Its bad for the heart.
Damn, 22-23. I still think I'm fat tho. I have a gut pouch and some fat on my breasts. Stuck at 168lbs
why is every fat homosexual i ever met a nonvirgin ?
seems that women preffer obese morons just as long as they are neurotypical over shredded autists
It's true, when I was pushing 275lbs I banged 15 chicks in about 10 year time span. Dropped to 168 and I've banged 2. And one is my wife so that doesn't count.
kys neorotypical moron
But the quality of relationship is much better at 168. A wife beats out having a one night stand or gf
15 chubby chasers over 10 years is 1.5 girls a year. Those are virgin numbers and nothing to be proud of either.
Trust me, now that I've grown it's not something I'm proud of. I can't say if I could go back I'd change that because I have 4 kids that mean the world to me. I just pray that they listen to my advice and break the cycle of how I was and my father was as well, with different children from numerous failed relationships.
>made two days worth of bolognese today
>it was more delicious than it had any right to be
>now it's nearly all gone
FRICK
Why does this happen sometimes? Some food just makes me lose control and I have no idea why. Thought it was carbs but the sauce isn't carb-heavy at all.
My BMI is exactly 25 but BMI is a meme measurement for people who actually have decent muscle mass
BMI is a shitty metric for measuring an individual’s health but a useful metric for determining the overall obesity of a population (because the data is more readily available and most people are not making those numbers through muscle mass and bone density if you know what I mean)
Because this is a fitness board, and because the fatties who are here trying to change themselves aren’t gonna make posts bragging about how fat they are, the posts here are going to overwhelmingly be people for whom BMI is not a good metric of health. If you’re serious about this, determine your bodyfat percentage, not your BMI.