>Testosterone levels in an elephant in musth can be on average 60 times greater than in the same elephant at other times (in specific individuals these testosterone levels can even reach as much as 140 times the normal).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musth
Is there any way to infuce musth as a human?
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YES THERE IS DONT BELIVE THIS MUSTH-DENIER THE TRUTH MUST COME OUT
Then say it
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The redpill on testosterone is that it's 80% determined by your social status and social interactions.
Everything else like exercise, diet, cold showers, etc. is like 20% of your results, if even that. And these often only work because they INDIRECTLY raise your status due to better looks.
Your brain isn't going to give you a substance that makes you aggressive and willing to "rock the boat" if you're a loner, with no friends.
For survival purposes, you need to be accepted as a part of a group, and it will withhold all testosterone production until you become socially accepted in a group.
Your brain will cause you to be low testosterone, so you are not aggressive enough that other people see you as a threat and are willing to accept you.
This is extremely triggering to antisocial types that claim they "don't care what others think" or "other's opinions don't matter".
Other's people's opinions do in fact matter so much that they influence your hormones and internal biochemistry.
The part of your brain that cares about social status cares INTENSELY about it. That part is more ancient than the one responsible for BREATHING.
If you deny the importance of social status, you are denying your biology like a troony.
The real ways to increase your testosterone:
>Social interaction: get more friends, go out more often, NEVER be a loner
>Dress better than others, improve your looks
>Get a job (if NEET), get a better paying job, get a promotion at your job
>Earn more money, get things that display your status as money earner according to your social group
>Get a girlfriend and have sex regularly
>Never submit or let another man humiliate you (almost impossible if you're a wagie).
This is why business owners and self-employed men have higher T.
>Work in a competitive or performance-based occupation like sales.
>Win at life in general.
All of these will have 10x the effect of whatever puny improvement to your T you've had in the past 6 months working out.
INB4 all the seething replies. This anon speaks the truth. Look at lions and gorillas, the alpha male's body changes as a response to their social status. When the lion kills/scares off the other male lions, his testosterone goes through the roof and grows a giant mane of hair. Social status is the #1 determining factor.
ok so basically just become a roid troony and live like the unabomber is what im hearing
>unabomber
>gf
>friends
is this bait? nobody can actually be that stupid and moronic right?
Completely false. The brain mechanism you're describing runs off of serotonin which has a negligible impact on hormonal production. High serotonin does not necessarily equal high testosterone just as the opposite is also not always true.
We know for a fact that semen retention massively boosts testosterone. It's simply a hormone that responds to your behaviour and environment. A proper diet, amount of sleep and intense anaerobic exercise all boost testosterone much much more than any amount of social interaction and that's backed up by virtually every major study.
Your dodgy theory attempts to make a causal link between serotonin production and testosterone when in reality the inverse is true - males that have more testosterone, whether naturally or through exercise, diet, lifestyle or injections are more dominant, assertive and confident, therefore succeed socially and acquire higher serotonin. It's also been shown that higher hormonal outputs actually affect the limbic system in other ways, such as testosterone being slightly dopaminergic in its nature on top of aiding serotonin and endorphin release, which all contribute to general social success.
You've got it backwards but nice try, 6/10
>We know for a fact that semen retention massively boosts testosterone
Source?
god I hate how cringe and blatantly false the opinions pushed on this shithole website are
If I may, how is a male, single lion supposed to beat another male lion with a pride if the first male lion’s brain is literally cucking him out of muscle mass by depriving him of testosterone.
I’m no expert on lions, but if I’m not mistaken, male lions typically don’t let other male lions into their pride.
Male lions that are not part of a pride still have their own groups called coalitions
>incel lions form their own version of MGTOW
>Not LGTOW
come on anon.
>how is a male, single lion supposed to beat another male lion with a pride if the first male lion’s brain is literally cucking him out of muscle mass by depriving him of testosterone.
It doesn't get deprived of anything. A rogue male lion can go into a pride and fight the dominant male for ownership of the pride. The lionesses sit on the sidelines and watch. That moronic Black person doesn't have any idea of what he's talking about
Source?
I made it up
>The redpill on testosterone is that it's 80% determined by your social status and social interactions.
No, it isn't.
Partly true, but partly false.
T is influenced by social status, diet, exercise, general health, and many other factors.
I was actually thinking about this earlier today, how a guy taking TRT at my work acts like he is an alpha when his baseline hormones levels are telling him to be very beta. But it changes the way he acts, so he is overstepping his bounds, putting himself in dangerous situations. It's getting to the point I can tell the days he pins.
you're describing the serotonin system...
Don't expect anyone one IST to actually know anything about the human body.
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>For survival purposes, you need to be accepted as a part of a group, and it will withhold all testosterone production until you become socially accepted in a group.
>Your brain will cause you to be low testosterone, so you are not aggressive enough that other people see you as a threat and are willing to accept you.
>This is extremely triggering to antisocial types that claim they "don't care what others think" or "other's opinions don't matter".
Antisocial personality is a malfunction in that exact system, so you can't really expect it to work in a similar way to them as it does to normies.
You're forgetting: When you finally decide to rock the boat because the sea is more attractive, then testosterone goes through the roof by necessity. Be brave, no matter the personal cost, and the testosterone will flow.
i bet some slav training in a basement with no friends or family has double the test of this perfect guy you just drew up
While smoking mids and cheap cigarettes and drinking cheap vodka like water.
If you process alcohol much better than most people does that mean my liver synthesizes protein better too?
nah. you might just be immune to hangover which is risk factor for alcoholism. same with having naturally high tolerance which usually means low baseline gaba function.
Bro science fanfic
This is fit's version of Pascal's wager.
Either becoming a social gigachad increases your test and you get more gains. Or it doesn't but then you're still a social gigachad.
Win win.
You say that but all the people in sales are fat balding israelites. None of them look like Patrick Bateman.
It's about competition and WINNING. I meant to say work in a competitive profession AND EXCEL AT IT.
Also, you can't see the full story. israelite "men" are always henpecked by their wives at home. Their culture enforces that.
Being humiliated and bossed around, by a WOMAN no less, craters your T levels.
Same reason why married men have significantly lower T, while sexually successful bachelors are high T.
Cohabitation with women will always reduce your T. This is why males raised by single moms, still living with their mommy during their adult years, are so pathetic.
We don't live in a vacuum. Our life situation and social status influences our hormones.
Without other people's approval and respect, 80% of our body's capabilities are locked.
This is why it's so important to have an active social life, and why without one you'll always be sad and depressed.
Other ways to raise T that didn't fit in the earlier post:
>talking to attractive women, flirting, being admired and feeling desired by them
>hanging out with other men, belonging to a men-only group
>getting better friends, upgrading your social circle with much higher-status men
>"flexing" on others. Better car, better clothes, any outward sign that you're more successful than others (that's the reason people go into crippling debt to do it!)
>winning at anything competitive
>setting up an important life goal and achieving it
etc. etc.
Of course it's fricking harder than lifting a piece of metal 12x6 times in a safe gym.
However, some of the Test increase already comes while you work hard to improve in these areas, as long as you have absolute faith that you're going to achieve it.
Goal-setting and working to achieve your goals is basically the highest T activity there is.
I'm a loner and I'm jacked and tall. People at the gym probably think I take steroids. This is 100% false.
It's both because they have low test and because so many people look like shit even on the juice.
¿Eres el maricón de KC que le mearon encima?
>nattards actually believe this
Kek, imagine doing all of that homosexual shit when you can just pin test and have 20x more test.
>This is why business owners and self-employed men have higher T.
and it's not the other way around because reasons 😀
bot is always trying to hurt u - it's an perfect negative indicator in a sense - u just gotta figure out what it's trying to do with particular thread (from op to replies - it's all fake robotized traffic from one source) and form that u can deduce many-o-things
Human mating season is summer
More vitamin d = more test/bigger dick and balls
CDC says people really like to bang when it’s cold outside. Maybe summer is mate selection season though
Those are spring conceptions.
Fall babies are the result of winter fricking
My parents fricked in December and so I am a fall baby. Most of the people I grew up with were spring babies.
Roids
Fricking dyel lanklets
Bruh dis homie’s eyes though. Does musth make you a Sith Lord?
Why do people care more about quadrupedal animals than primates when it comes to hormones, wouldn't monkey studies and such be a better indicator of what works for us?
why would monkeys be a better indicator?
Because we are more similar to primates than lions or horses.
Unless you're injecting testosterone directly, there will always be hard biological restraints on the production of testosterone endogenously, regardless of supplementation. Are we sure that our natty limit of testosterone production can go up 60x? or is an elephant's ballsack given that much greater of a range of production?
Imagine combining induced musth with dolphin pusy juice.
Just lift, eat good, sleep well and manage stress.
t. 900+test
Why do I get so scared whenever I see an elephant in musth? I am a superior homohomosapian.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0306453016301780
"This article examines the role of basal testosterone as a potential biological marker of leadership and hierarchy in the workplace. First, we report the result of a study with a sample of male employees from different corporate organizations in the Netherlands (n = 125). Results showed that employees with higher basal testosterone levels reported a more authoritarian leadership style, but this relationship was absent among those who currently held a real management position (i.e., they had at least one subordinate). Furthermore, basal testosterone levels were not different between managers and non-managers, and testosterone was not associated with various indicators of status and hierarchy such as number of subordinates, income, and position in the organizational hierarchy. In our meta-analysis (second study), we showed that basal testosterone levels were not associated with leadership in men nor in women (9 studies, n = 1103). Taken together, our findings show that basal testosterone is not associated with having a leadership position in the corporate world or related to leadership styles in leaders. We suggest that basal testosterone could play a role in acquiring leadership positions through dominant and authoritarian behavior."
High testosterone causes risk taking behavior, risk taking behavior somewhat increases testosterone = you get higher social status.
Not the opposite, where you get social status and then suddenly your T explodes, at least not in humans. Makes complete sense as we are social beings that only thrive together.
The king should always respect his population, the moment the population is reduced to slavery through elitism, is the moment everything goes to shit and you just wait till your conquered by neighbouring nations. Whether that takes 20 years or 200, depends on how civilized you are.
>High testosterone causes risk taking behavior, risk taking behavior somewhat increases testosterone = you get higher social status.
I always had high T for a natty. When I started my business I felt a very obvious boost in test. My lifts and libido shot up. These were the most solitary years of my life where I was only around my wife and kids when I wasn't working. I was always in a very competitive career and had an active social life prior to becoming an entrepreneur. It wasn't until I went out on my own and eventually had people depending on me that I had the increase in T. It's not just about competition. Many people think they're in a competitive career. But they rely on other men for their income and well-being. They still "submit" when required. If they frick up they get another chance, or they can apply for another job. When you're on your own your whole body adapts to the challenge because if you fail it's over and you lost everything. But none of this really matters since the T boost is marginal in the grand scheme of things.
So your literally saying
testosterone -> risk taking behavior
risk taking behavior -> testosterone
The social stuff I simply dont buy.
>testosterone -> risk taking behavior
>risk taking behavior -> testosterone
Yes but I think the testosterone increase comes from not having anyone but yourself to rely on which is a result of the risk taking behavior.
Interesting. Is that because not having anyone to rely on is more dangerous, even more risky?
And we aren't attributing the testosterone increase to cortisol I assume. Cortisol also gives people a feeling that they're on top of the world.
In the end I think that if the stress is chronic, the testosterone benefits do eventually fall off. Your thoughts on this, at least if your the entrepeneur guy?
I never felt like I had stress issues. Well, not once I got going. I was a train wreck in the very beginning, but I remember being more stressed out working for people. Never had a top of the world feeling, just a strong resolve. When shit went wrong it didn't phase me like it would before. I think my hormones, whatever they were, did return to normal once things got off the ground and I wasn't knife fighting for money.
Intresting idea.
As a kid I was an extreme loner, cared about literally nothing other than my grades (and aced all the classes). Was not a risk-taker but naturally very high in neuroticism (OCEAN trait) and a risk tolerance of exactly 0% so even "an almost certain ace" was enough to cause at least mild stress to turn that 99% into a 99.9%, even if I had nothing but aces I would still be worried about passing the grade.
Had a noticeable moustache and I think a full beard by the time my classmates had ANY facial hair. No one measured my test levels so that is the only metric I really have(that may have nothing to do with actual test levels at that age and more to do with being an early bloomer).
Yes but it’s a lost art. You can induce a testosterone and creatine producing state of being but the physical cost of being in such state will make physically ill and leave you incapable for a few days afterword.
care to explain? very interested.
Eat minimal food for a few days and work as intensely as possible at the end of a four day semi-fast. You’ll hurt yourself. And you’ll lose some muscle, but you’ll make up for it slightly with the increased testosterone and creatine. There is no way to do this “safely”. You won’t die. But you will damage your muscle sinews and probably get a cold for a week.
You would gain more muscle by just working out normally.
I learned this from an army doctor who observed it as a trend among (some!) soldiers.
It’s clearly some sort of survival mechanism.
ayo dis homie so horny he leaking precum from his eyes and ears lmaooo
what elephussy do to a mf
Natural increase in testosterone levels, sure.
60 times increase? Blasting lethal ammounts of tren or something.
As far as I know the human body isn't evolved for musth.
Also if I recall correctly excess testosterone can get aromatised into estrogen... giving you a serious case of gynecomastia among much more serious issues from the excess of test and then the excess of estrogen.
> Is there any way to infuce musth as a human?
Yes, when her stomach is flat and her ass is fat