You're balding because of DHT sensitivity. You need to reduce serum DHT first and see the effects, and only then hop on Minoxidil to initiate any regrowth.
By the way, any hair gained with Minoxidil is lost after you come off it. It's a life-long commitment. Just keep that in mind.
>he got gyno from fin
you already had super low T in the first place
I love how all these dht simps are always ironically the biggest soibois
8 months ago
Anonymous
why would you assume everyone else is balding and taking troony drugs just because you are?
8 months ago
Anonymous
>i'll take the troony drugs, i'm sure no harm will come from it in the long run, i'm just surpressing my hormones, anyone who says otherwise is a "dht simp"
the absolute state of trannies
I know it increased total T, but does it increse free T too? I've read that it lowers free T, probably from the increased SHBG that's left 'unbound' from the lack of DHT.
Males with that wacky 5AR mutation that naturally inhibits DHT production are yoked as frick and obviously have a frickton of free T, but I doubt their endocrine system is comparable to a finistaridegay.
I just find hilarious how people take so lightly playing wiith their hormones, the role of DHT is far more than "I make you bald bro".
Getting breasts is the least of your concerns after using that for a prolonged time, fatty liver, renal problems and high gleason prostate cancer are just some things you can get from blocking DHT.
The even more hilarious part is that people from here that were so scared and opposite to the vaccine, go and take finasteride, dutasteride or oral minox at their first sign of balding, all with little to none investigation on their effects to health after a long time using.
Make sure you are not deficient in Vitamin D and magensium, be IST and stop eating inflammatory food like red meat, processed meat like sausages, things made with white floor, fried things etc.
nice source bro and thats literally wrong, fin raises your free test when you first take it since you body isn't using as much of it to make DHT then it autoregulates back to normal.
Stop spamming this garbage you brainlet cuck no fricking shit a dude who's trying to pass as a "woman" needs to have all the help in the world and most of all it's a thick head of hair.
You're balding because of DHT sensitivity. You need to reduce serum DHT first and see the effects, and only then hop on Minoxidil to initiate any regrowth.
By the way, any hair gained with Minoxidil is lost after you come off it. It's a life-long commitment. Just keep that in mind.
that's literally the worst standard for male pattern baldness
why do you as a guy go to a female doctor, and why is she giving you treatments intended for women? is there something you're not telling us?
you're the one who's extremely idiotic (tho the op's doctor is not far behind...)
>You need to reduce serum DHT first
nope. he needs to reduce scalp dht
serum dht reductions are an undesirable side effect
which is why topical fit (primarily reduces scalp dht) is to be preferred over oral fin (primarily reduces serum dht)
>only then hop on Minoxidil to initiate any regrowth
the 2 substances act orthogonally to each other
ofc he SHOULD hop on fin, but not being on fin will not reduce the effectiveness of min, merely render its effects impermanent
>any hair gained with Minoxidil is lost after you come off it
wrong. if you use min long enough that follicles become fully mature, they will be retained forever
assuming you are also on fin (or dut) so the progression of mpb is halted, so your newly matured follicles don't miniaturize/die again.
>Is she right?
no.
you need finasteride to stop the progression of mpb
minoxidil is pushing in the opposite direction, but really what its best used for is *regrowth* of miniaturized, but not yet dead, hair follicles.
also, minox is best combined with microneedling the target areas.
anon, ignore your doctors opinion and do the golden standard: fin (ideally topical, otherwise 0.5-1mg oral per day) + min (topical) + microneedling
if you can get your doctor to go along with this, great.
otherwise, switch doctors.
I know this is a bait post but this legitimately did happen to me at a hairloss clinic, then they tried to sell me a course of red light therapy (and minoxidil lol) for around 2k. anyway I didn't do that and have been on fin for 6 months, I don't feel any different at all but it also hasn't worked and my hair has been in a continuous shed for the last 6 months and my shit is fricked. thanks 4 reading my blog might post before and current photos if I remember when I get home later
Kek, literally had the opposite happen to me. She was very dubious about my malding but ended up writing me a script for fricking dutasteride. Didn't even warn me about the teratogenic effects and said a referral to an endo wasn't needed.
She mentioned T off-handedly. I don't know if she was dumbing it down for me or actually has absolutely NO IDEA how ARIs work.
>then they tried to sell me a course of red light therapy (and minoxidil lol) for around 2k.
kek holy shit, good thing you actually did a modicum of research to realize that shit is insane.
>go to dermatologist the other day >some old (70+) looking guy that is coughing and has a ciggy pack in his pocket and has the worst posture I've seen in a while >checks my hair with naked eyes for less than 10s >writes out minox prescription without saying a thing >i mention it not fixing the root issue and name finasteride >laughs and says "sure I can give you fin", no mention of side effects or titration or nothing really >for some reason pharmacist gives me 5mg instead of 1mg as written in prescription
Concerning that these people are in charge of our health but frick it, I got pills for over 2 years. Inshallah i get no breasts
When I went to a dermatologist for fin, she told me no. She prescribed me this other topical bullshit ( literally like 5 bottles of shit ), so I just faked her writing and added fin to the prescription and got it lol. Turns out I could've just went to the pharmacy and got it without any prescription, but whatever.
Just get a hair transplant dude, isn't it that easy. Im saying in 15 years will have hair transplants completely unnoticeable to other people and free natural.
This is after year of finasteride 1mg, a woman doctor prescribed me this. She was helpful and said she's been doing this for over 20 years and none of her patients got sides (at least none of those who kept visiting her). I don't have any side effects either
I noticed hair thinning 2 years ago (I was 37) and I started obsessing over it more and more until i finally went for a cure year ago.
One day went shopping to Lidl, there was tv screen at the entrance showing footage from video camera above it. This was when I was able to clearly see the thinning on sides and top of the head.
I stopped shopping there.
Been on oral min + oral fin for a year. I like having to just take 2 pills every day and othewise never think about it. Not sure if I've regained anything but it feels like it hasn't gotten worse. left is before with longer hair slicked back. Right is after being buzzed cause I noticed lots of smaller hairs around my hairline and scalp, and wanted to reset everything to be the same length.
>she
She probably just said that because your balding isn't very bad yet.
Yes, my hair looks fine (yet). But shouldn't I start taking care of it as soon as I can?
Finasteride is important
finasteride increases testosterone by roughly 7% and estrogen (temporarily) by 7% which is regulated back down to normal after some time
take your shitposting and frick off, Black personhomosexual
enjoy your breasts
>he got gyno from fin
you already had super low T in the first place
I love how all these dht simps are always ironically the biggest soibois
why would you assume everyone else is balding and taking troony drugs just because you are?
>i'll take the troony drugs, i'm sure no harm will come from it in the long run, i'm just surpressing my hormones, anyone who says otherwise is a "dht simp"
the absolute state of trannies
Post your test
I should say, the estrogen boost returns to normal while the testosterone boost is permanent
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/14624915/
I know it increased total T, but does it increse free T too? I've read that it lowers free T, probably from the increased SHBG that's left 'unbound' from the lack of DHT.
Males with that wacky 5AR mutation that naturally inhibits DHT production are yoked as frick and obviously have a frickton of free T, but I doubt their endocrine system is comparable to a finistaridegay.
I just find hilarious how people take so lightly playing wiith their hormones, the role of DHT is far more than "I make you bald bro".
Getting breasts is the least of your concerns after using that for a prolonged time, fatty liver, renal problems and high gleason prostate cancer are just some things you can get from blocking DHT.
The even more hilarious part is that people from here that were so scared and opposite to the vaccine, go and take finasteride, dutasteride or oral minox at their first sign of balding, all with little to none investigation on their effects to health after a long time using.
Make sure you are not deficient in Vitamin D and magensium, be IST and stop eating inflammatory food like red meat, processed meat like sausages, things made with white floor, fried things etc.
they take it for mostly the same reason that normal people do. haven't you seen the pictures of balding trannies?
nice source bro and thats literally wrong, fin raises your free test when you first take it since you body isn't using as much of it to make DHT then it autoregulates back to normal.
Stop spamming this garbage you brainlet cuck no fricking shit a dude who's trying to pass as a "woman" needs to have all the help in the world and most of all it's a thick head of hair.
hmm yes xhir, you seem like the sort of troony who should take hormones and dump some oil on your scalp 2x a day, hehehe
When I say "she told me" I mean she only gave me recipe for minoxidil
>she only gave me recipe for minoxidil
>recipe
do you speak spanish anon?
Insanely idiotic.
You're balding because of DHT sensitivity. You need to reduce serum DHT first and see the effects, and only then hop on Minoxidil to initiate any regrowth.
By the way, any hair gained with Minoxidil is lost after you come off it. It's a life-long commitment. Just keep that in mind.
>It's a life-long commitment
Finasteride too
True, but adding a pill to your vitamin stack is a lot easier than applying liquid to your scalp twice a day
She gave me oral minoxidil lol
that's literally the worst standard for male pattern baldness
why do you as a guy go to a female doctor, and why is she giving you treatments intended for women? is there something you're not telling us?
you're the one who's extremely idiotic (tho the op's doctor is not far behind...)
>You need to reduce serum DHT first
nope. he needs to reduce scalp dht
serum dht reductions are an undesirable side effect
which is why topical fit (primarily reduces scalp dht) is to be preferred over oral fin (primarily reduces serum dht)
>only then hop on Minoxidil to initiate any regrowth
the 2 substances act orthogonally to each other
ofc he SHOULD hop on fin, but not being on fin will not reduce the effectiveness of min, merely render its effects impermanent
>any hair gained with Minoxidil is lost after you come off it
wrong. if you use min long enough that follicles become fully mature, they will be retained forever
assuming you are also on fin (or dut) so the progression of mpb is halted, so your newly matured follicles don't miniaturize/die again.
topical fin has the same serum dht reduction as oral fin
my god you "people" are some of the dumbest fricks I've ever engaged with on the internet
you learn a tidbit or two then run to discussion spaces and proclaim yourself an expert, unironically people like you need physical beatings
>if you use min long enough that follicles become fully mature, they will be retained forever
big if true. got any sauce?
It's bullshit
NTA but I used minoxidil for my beard, it improved about 40% and none of it has fallen.
haven't taken minoxidil in more than a year.
by my experience, after your hair start to grown base on minox, once you stop it start to falling out 4 to 7 days later
long hair shafts fall off like nothing
dont lie to yourself. face the truth. It is downhill from here. You should be proactive and do the combo.
it is more effective
I am doing it for 3,5 years. Sides only week 1. Pain under my balls.
interesting to say, I am 35 yo and both grandparents died from prostate cancer... so... fin deflate enlarged prostates. Maybe thats why
dick function 100%
kinda impressive... I am not a young guy and it gets hard instantly for nothing
dont be fat
imagine growing your hair back just to have an incel hair style like that
>Is she right?
no.
you need finasteride to stop the progression of mpb
minoxidil is pushing in the opposite direction, but really what its best used for is *regrowth* of miniaturized, but not yet dead, hair follicles.
also, minox is best combined with microneedling the target areas.
anon, ignore your doctors opinion and do the golden standard: fin (ideally topical, otherwise 0.5-1mg oral per day) + min (topical) + microneedling
if you can get your doctor to go along with this, great.
otherwise, switch doctors.
this anon is right
BUT microneedling hurt to the point that make you cry. Minox on top of that hurt even more because feels like alcoohol
very nice experience pos workout
Shit, I dont wanna argue with her, Im shy as frick, but I think I'll have to.
She needs to give me recipe for finasteride
I know this is a bait post but this legitimately did happen to me at a hairloss clinic, then they tried to sell me a course of red light therapy (and minoxidil lol) for around 2k. anyway I didn't do that and have been on fin for 6 months, I don't feel any different at all but it also hasn't worked and my hair has been in a continuous shed for the last 6 months and my shit is fricked. thanks 4 reading my blog might post before and current photos if I remember when I get home later
Kek, literally had the opposite happen to me. She was very dubious about my malding but ended up writing me a script for fricking dutasteride. Didn't even warn me about the teratogenic effects and said a referral to an endo wasn't needed.
She mentioned T off-handedly. I don't know if she was dumbing it down for me or actually has absolutely NO IDEA how ARIs work.
Dutasteride and fin are not ARI’s, and teratogenic? You’re a woman getting dutasteride for hairloss?
>then they tried to sell me a course of red light therapy (and minoxidil lol) for around 2k.
kek holy shit, good thing you actually did a modicum of research to realize that shit is insane.
min + fin
get on fin now
if you start with both you won't know if one isn't working.
>go to dermatologist the other day
>some old (70+) looking guy that is coughing and has a ciggy pack in his pocket and has the worst posture I've seen in a while
>checks my hair with naked eyes for less than 10s
>writes out minox prescription without saying a thing
>i mention it not fixing the root issue and name finasteride
>laughs and says "sure I can give you fin", no mention of side effects or titration or nothing really
>for some reason pharmacist gives me 5mg instead of 1mg as written in prescription
Concerning that these people are in charge of our health but frick it, I got pills for over 2 years. Inshallah i get no breasts
i've heard that taking this shit ages your skin
When I went to a dermatologist for fin, she told me no. She prescribed me this other topical bullshit ( literally like 5 bottles of shit ), so I just faked her writing and added fin to the prescription and got it lol. Turns out I could've just went to the pharmacy and got it without any prescription, but whatever.
Just get a hair transplant dude, isn't it that easy. Im saying in 15 years will have hair transplants completely unnoticeable to other people and free natural.
why are you taking balding advice from a woman?
>Woman
Stopped reading there
This is after year of finasteride 1mg, a woman doctor prescribed me this. She was helpful and said she's been doing this for over 20 years and none of her patients got sides (at least none of those who kept visiting her). I don't have any side effects either
I noticed hair thinning 2 years ago (I was 37) and I started obsessing over it more and more until i finally went for a cure year ago.
One day went shopping to Lidl, there was tv screen at the entrance showing footage from video camera above it. This was when I was able to clearly see the thinning on sides and top of the head.
I stopped shopping there.
Just get rid of your hair and stop caring.
Been on oral min + oral fin for a year. I like having to just take 2 pills every day and othewise never think about it. Not sure if I've regained anything but it feels like it hasn't gotten worse. left is before with longer hair slicked back. Right is after being buzzed cause I noticed lots of smaller hairs around my hairline and scalp, and wanted to reset everything to be the same length.