My shoulders just refuse to grow

Been training a few years now, and my side delts haven’t grown a bit. Frick my life and frick my dogshit genetics. 5’11, 188lbs

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What's your OHP bench squat and deadlift?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I can do 2 plates for reps on bench. I don’t do those other lifts cause of back issues

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >bench squat and deadlift
      what do these have to do with his fricking shoulder size lmao

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        im not him and you are right in a vacuum they dont but as seen in thread it proved to be a good question. he said 2 pl8 for "reps" on bench which is possibly even a lie since he didnt specifiy how many so i would guess its 2 reps at most or then he doesnt even rep it and thats why threw out the lie cause he couldnt say how many. and then he doesnt even do ohp.

        so the answer is obviously that the guy is dyel and then he is wondering why his shoulders doesnt grow because he is moving weight that a first month lifter can do probably. he is "spamming" lateral raises 2-3x a week probably using like 5kg dumbbells and then wonders why he doesnt blow up like his favorite tiktoker who figured this "spamming" training secret. the only way to grow as a natural is progressive overload and lifting heavy weights. if you can ohp 40kg dumbbells for 12 reps, you have bigger shoulders than someone who ohp 20kg dumbbells for 12. its literally that simple. spamming and chasing the pump wont do shit.

        So all in all OP lifts 1/2/3/4 AT MOST giving the benefit of the doubt but possibly even less WITH high bodyfat and he wonders why his "shoulders" (read: every body part) doesnt grow or look good. lol. im 178cm and 73kg and i bench 3pl8. so go figure why he has bad body.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    do more rows. you need to build rear delts too

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >do more rows. you need to build rear delts too
      Ah, these are the kind of absolutely dogshit moronic 90 IQ takes I come here for. Well done, bro. And nice twist to substitute 'rows' for the usual 'deadlifts'.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You need to do lat raises.
    Ohp is not enough. Trust me. Or don’t.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      He needs to learn how to train better first.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        No he doesn’t. OHP is not a great shoulder exercise.

        That’s all I fricking do bro. I do lateral raises 2 to 3 times a week and these are the results. Some people just have shitty sloped shoulders and need to realise there’s 0 point even training them

        You’re fat, lose weight and you’ll have better shoulders relative to your oversized torso

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Look at his body. He can't train like normal people with his genetics. Even if he did lateral raises how much do u think he'd improve

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Lat raises are better than no lat raises.
            There is nothing about his genetics that would indicate he needs some sort of different training program. That doesn’t even make sense.

            He mostly just needs to lose weight. He’s fat.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Exactly. And as I said before I do lateral raises multiple times a week. It’s fricking over

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              you either train like a pussy, eat like shit, get shit sleep, or some combination. additionally, your delts aren't any worse than the rest of your mediocre body, you're just skinnyfat. try harder and stop using genetics as a cope

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            i'm sure his genetics are average, he's just close to morbidly obese and not a single muscle can be seen through that thick layer of fat

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          This (second part).
          Chubbos don't know that lean people look "bigger" to normievision even if they're less pound for pound weight. If you cut to 11% you'd pull tail easy in Japan assuming your face isn't jacked. Any bigger and you'll be stalked by the gays.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That’s all I fricking do bro. I do lateral raises 2 to 3 times a week and these are the results. Some people just have shitty sloped shoulders and need to realise there’s 0 point even training them

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Exactly. And as I said before I do lateral raises multiple times a week. It’s fricking over

        You don't train to failure. I bet when you feel your shoulder muscles start to burn you stop. No pain no gain.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          you either train like a pussy, eat like shit, get shit sleep, or some combination. additionally, your delts aren't any worse than the rest of your mediocre body, you're just skinnyfat. try harder and stop using genetics as a cope

          Cope cope cope. I train them to failure. My sleep could be better sometimes sure. But that’s it

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            post diet

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Breakfast: sometimes I have it sometimes I don’t . Cereal
              Lunch: 2 wraps, each with a whole chicken breast
              Dinner: whatever my parents make

              Might throw in a protein bar or two as well

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                How old are you ±10
                Maybe you're too old to have maximum muscle genetics

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >cereal
                do better
                >lunch
                good
                >whatever my parents make
                probably trash

                fix it

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Diet doesn’t matter anyway mate natural hypertrophy said so

                >i look like shit on purpose, every thinks i lift i swear!!!!! i look totally different irl!!!!!!!!!!
                no one believes you

                Ummm ok kid? I don’t fricking care if you don’t believe me lol, literally just chucked my shirt off in the living room and took a quick pic, it’s not that deep son. You probably never had a single mire in ur life hahahaha

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                The fatty is seething now

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Mf never heard of bulking. Trust me you little DYEL subhuman, you’re never gonna get any mires if you’re not willing to put on a couple extra pounds for the sake of the craft

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                you're supposed to put on muscle too, not just the extra pounds.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I got more muscle than you could ever dream of kid. Bet you’re a virgin incel too lololol

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                stop embarrassing yourself and pick up some fricking dumbbells and do some delt exercises, homosexual

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous
              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You rep a mere 2pl8 on bench after years of lifting and at that bodyweight. Your motor movement and technique is shit to the point that you can't squat, OHP, or deadlift without injury. You have a powerlifter physique, yet you don't train for strength nor do you do 2 of the 3 powerlifting movements. I have made more progress in a single year of lifting, both in terms of strength and in terms of physique on very basic PL programs with zero accessoires.

                NTA by the way, but you are not in a position to act wienery.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Post body now little guy. 0 chance you mog me

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            you need to train them more often.
            My back didnt grow either even though I used weights that were hard for me and I reached failure it still didnt grow. high frequency with heavy weight is good for muscles that are mostly slow twitch

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        what's the weight? 5kg?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Spam btn presses

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Cut while spamming lateral raises 4-5 days a week. You should see them in a few months. Cutting will help because they'll put more emphasis on your lats, and your lats compliment your side delts.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Side delts can take a lot of punishment. Every set should be a drop set if you’re sufficiently conditioned. If you’ve been lifting for years and doing the bare minimum of cardio you should be sufficiently conditioned.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    heavy lat raises everyday has grown my delts quite a bit
    it's been only 20 days though. And it's also pretty comfy because you can do like 20 reps a day and that's it. Buy some 30 pounds dumbbells and rep them. All that your muscle needs rest pencil neck bs applies mostly to the bigger muscles. Your delts recover withing 24 hours

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's not specific to your shoulders. If you went to trial for lifting weights the judge would toss the case for lack of evidence. You need to train harder and eat some steak.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      People call me big all the time in person and ask for advice so I don’t really care what you think mate

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        they're talking about your stomach

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Kek but no everyone mires my arms. I’ve been accused of taking steroids multiple times too. You stay mad tho DYEL hahaha

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            did you forget that you posted a picture of yourself in this very thread? where you talk about how you can't make progress with that shitty physique and you're calling other people DYEL? LMAO

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah, a deliberately unflattering picture to highlight my problem. just how dumb are you ?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >i look like shit on purpose, every thinks i lift i swear!!!!! i look totally different irl!!!!!!!!!!
                no one believes you

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Post diet at once. If you’re actually training til you’re about one or two reps away from failure at the end of your working sets, then there’s no way you’re eating right. So, you either have a shitty diet, a bunch of junk volume, or worse; you’re doing the exercises wrong. Actually, if this is you after a “few years”, then there’s no way you’ve done some of these things right. Why do you have no traps and no arms?
    >tl;dr post diet, post routine

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Hand stand push ups and squats are the only exercises you need.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Good news, buddy: I'm in a non shit mood so you get some secret sauce, on the house.

    WORK ON YOUR UPPER BACK. WIDE UPPER BACK = "BIG" SHOULDERS.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    cut

  12. 1 month ago
    less fat nigga

    homie you fat. Nobody looking at them shoulders.
    Also, do upright rows instead of just spamming lat raises.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If you don’t do some form of overhead pressing and dumbbell flies for the side and rear delts and ALSO make progress on them and are only doing bench your shoulders are gonna be flat bro simple as

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    whatever your overhead press movement is, if you double the weight you can do, for 5-8 or ideally 8-10 reps, your shoulders will be bigger. That helped me out more than lateral raises ever did.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Good day to you, my favourite paddy manlet.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Have you tried lifting?

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Ur T is low find a way to boost it, u're 17 to 20 % bf, lower that to sub 15, it's not over yet

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