My sister thinks this is the ideal male body type. Do women really idolize fat?
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what's your contact info
wrong
too skinny, you need to eat more. you have a boy's body, not a man's body.
I can smell the cope from here
peak fiseek right there, keep it up bro
le angle fraud
R u gay?
that's a fat latina chick
Yes. Women like something soft to lay on.
>sister
Why arent you impregnating her?
Already have. She's due in January.
Nice. Do you know the baby's sex? Have you thought about names?
sex will be non-binary/pozhole/homo
name will be Alexanderiano
This guy is fat. If you all saw his moonpie face you'd forget all about him in a second.
Cope
Yes.
Everyone else is fatter than you.
Everyone else gets laid.
Q.E.D.
I'm not fatter but I still don't get laid
This is what women think of when they say they like dadbods
This is a dadbod, what's the point? He'd obese.
Obesity is based on bmi though, you're also moronic if you're implying he's comically fat or whatever
>Obesity is based on bmi though
it's not, it's based on bf%. BMI is only applicable if you have no muscle.
extra muscle mass is taxing on the heart
ah yes, google itself. the greatest source on earth
your image is pointing out that using BMI on muscular people doesn't work. even your own sources show you're wrong
You're twisting it around, your heart works more when there is more tissue to pump blood to, naturally fat tissue is unhealthier but extra muscle mass is still extra work for your heart
your heart also works more when moving around. is an 70lbs cardiobunny obese?
cardio improves heart efficiency at the cost of regular elevated heartrate, which is healthier than lifting on every level if health is your goal
You should not be listened to. Cardio lowers resting heart rate and does improve heart efficiency. Lifting improves the vascular system and notably exposes the body to natural bursts in blood pressure that can help lower blood pressure at rest. Blood pressure is a measure of vascular health. It is the result of the vessels contracting or dialating depending on the blood volume.
>Lifting improves the vascular system
by enlargening your heart permanently, which proportionately increases the calcium build up in your arteries, which isn't a problem as long as you keep lifting. But once you and your heart get big, and for whatever reason you decide to stop lifting at some point, your heart and overall muscular system naturally start regressing in size, which then turns the built-up calcium into literal artery blocks, so you have a good chance of getting a heart attack
>by enlargening your heart permanently
my bad, NOT permanently
Not really. Vascular system != Heart itself. The spikes in bp lead to better vassodialation at rest which is a neurotransmitter/hormone response. Calcium depositon is a function of vitamin d, k, and a bit of a sometimes. If anything cardio causes heart hypertrophy because it stresses the heart much more than lifting. Why dohave this notion that lifting can be bad for your heart? Bodybuilders die early for sure and a large body mass can for sure increase vascular resistance but that only happens in roiders or fatties. In addition much of ehat causes bodybuilder death is lipid accumulation as a side effect of super high test which is why after everything is accounted for, men die earliwr than women.
Verification not required.
>Why dohave this notion that lifting can be bad for your heart?
because
>Bodybuilders die early for sure
I really hate people's obssession with justifying their actions in every way possible, like how these morons say "b-but I lift because it's good for my health!" like frick up homie no you don't, you just want to look cool which is reason enough.
its like being a porn addict beating your dick 12 times a day then turning around and saying "I do it because I'm scared of testicular cancer" like sure man of course
Who am I going to trust the WHO, the health wing of The United Nations or some who on IST?
Do you mean the WHO that repeatedly lied in favor of China during the pandemic saying that they had things under control and now they're the only place left in the world locked down due to COVID?
Nothing shocking about women liking a man that's
>tall
>muscular
>hairy
Most women worth dating were raised by men that have these qualities. If this dude hit on your mom your dad would be cucked immediately, to either face a felony or accept his cuckoldry.
moron phenotype, one look and u can tell hes dumb.
>u can tell hes dumb.
>u
>hes
either way, once the bombs drop brawn will become much more important than brain in the aftermath
>once the bombs drop brawn will become much more important than brain
*dies on day 20 from untreated infection*
>shoots u
>stabs u
nothing personell kid, we’ve been taking down animals much bigger than ourselves for eons, fricking lol if u think brawn matters that much in a real fight. Dexterity, reaction speed and endurance is all you need. The baddest mfkers that were ever alive were not huge.
>5
u
Kek big and lanky fighter can be evaded unlike the tyson
roider. he has abs on top of his fat
>Most women worth dating were raised by men that have these qualities
This is great advice, unironically. You'll have great success if you lift with older dads that can introduce you to their daughters.
>t.
chest too big, shoulders too small
Still the hottest body ive seen holy shit. No one can top this
Sort of but not really. I went from 260 to 200 and my wife was almost sad? I think they feel more secure with a guy they see as having no options other than them.
this is correct for sure. i went from 25% bf to 17 and my wife got very insecure.
good part is that now she's a lot more open to exercise herself.
meant to say that i also stayed 100kg when losing fat
Yeah mine started calorie counting after a year of me doing it. Showed her it wasn't anything scary and logging isn't complicated.
My girl got more insecure when I gained weight. I used to be very ripped at 170lbs and maybe 10% bodyfat on a bad day. Now I'm closer to 185 and 16-17% bodyfat and she's always putting herself down that I probably have a lineup of women waiting to have me.
Yeah but this is above 20%, your face will be round and puffy. If you had the face included with the same guy at different bf levels they’d pick somewhere between 12% to 15% everytime. Also women don’t know what the frick they want, seen many times.
if you have decent beard genetics iþyou can hide the roundness and double chin
I got better jaw and chin genetics but I also can grow a great full beard, would rather have stubble and a chiseled lower face anytime than a beard.
>rejecting the calling card of being a man.
when are you starting HRT?
Nothing about beards is manly in 2022, they’re rocked by reddit basedboys and people with no jawlines and chins. Your manliness is in your character also, a lot of people look “manly” on ig but are womenlike narcissistics in real life. The best middle ground is just have a couple days stubble and take it down with a trimmer when it gets too long, it’s what I do. Razor shaving is annoying and a waste of time tbh.
>having a beard is womanlike because ugly shits on Reddit have beards
are you sure you're a man?
>said nothing about chin and jaw
are u sure u recessed moron, frick off with ur beard cope.
Honestly most guys wouldn’t give a frick if they have no abs and a mini gut like op as long as their face stayed chiseled at higher bf but it doesnt work that way. A man loses like 1- 2 points in face attractiveness if he’s high bodyfat, even if women might like that body better. You’ll also be clothed most of the time so face is more important, 15% is prob a good middleground, depending on your fat storage genetics.
Bruh im there but with less bf and am still cutting. I dont even know what is fashionable nowadays. Think im just gonna keep lite cutting as i personally find the fight club bod more pleasing to the eye compared to the rambo look. Plus think it would be more practical in sports i practice where u need speed and agility and not only strength.
Lean and mean is the way, think a lot of these chicks are projecting their insecurities onto their partners too so they want them to less out of shape. If I was a total slob woman and my guy was working out and dieting down I’d feel inferior and uncomfortable with myself too.
Yeah man seems like a factor for a lot of chicks now i think about it. An ex of mine wouldnt let me touch her belly because she was so insecure about it and she wasnt even remotely fat. Which is a shame because it was a nice soft surface, softer than the ass but bigger than a tit. 🙁
I dont care much anyway about how women perceive me, i just love being IST and active. Only thing aesthetically annoying me slightly is that it seems like im not blessed with the best ab genetics. Ive seen some shredded dudes with no lower ab defenition and i might have the same issue. Or im held back by my childhood fat. And i already find it hard to do effective weighted ab exercises at my home gym. Ah well its good to have goals on the horizon and im happy with where ive come already.
Yeah i know mate im not moronic thats why literally my next two words were "[THAT] I PRACTICE". And said it needed both speed and agility in addition to strength. Its mainly soccer btw where you have everything from twigs to gorillas in every level so yeah i know, its just for my personal playstyle i need a nice balance between the three which adds the benefit of being able to sometimes surprise opponents with one of m. Plus I like playing tons of other sports casually so having an allround and balanced physique is great.
I dont know if you needed to vent or were triggered but if you read my whole post it seems obvious i wasnt trying to shit on powershitters, dyels or roid troonys, i just explained my personal situation and opinion.
>Plus think it would be more practical in sports
Depends on the sport. Football? You have tiny wide reveivers and massive defensive linemen. Strongman/powerlifting? Bigger is better. You had guys with all types of bodies as world champs for boxing, kickboxing, judo, mma, etc.
The most important thing that I cannot stress enough is that being thin is not automatically a sign of perfect cardiovascular health. I knew guys that were built like op pic in the national guard and could run 4 miles in 26 minutes. A long lasting heart typically comes from exercise, limiting sugar/salt intake, healthy lifestyle choices regarding drinking, smoking and drugs, access to clean air, and most importantly genetics.
Everything else is cope.
You need to get inside a woman's head OP.
Man and women both have lizard brains which are largely responsible for physical attraction.
When she sees that picture she doesn't think "Wow, he looks buff, but he needs to cut down to at least 15% bodyfat to look good like mpmd says"
No. She subconsciously thinks "Wow, he looks strong. He can fight off predators and protect my off-spring"
You have the same reaction towards women with large breasts, nice hair, wide hips. It triggers your "she's fertile" response.
>You have the same reaction towards women with large breasts, nice hair, wide hips. It triggers your "she's fertile" response.
Is there a way to change this? I only find girls with big boobs attractive while smaller girls "unworthy" of my attention, if that makes sense.
As you can imagine, girls with big boobs are rare IRL hence my dilemma.
>Is there a way to change this? I only find girls with big boobs attractive while smaller girls "unworthy" of my attention, if that makes sense.
>As you can imagine, girls with big boobs are rare IRL hence my dilemma.
In my experience once puberty is done and you have some real life experience (maturity) that won't matter anymore.
I'm at the point where a woman who is intelligent and chill to be around will literally be sexier than some hot b***hy c**t.
Granted, there's a baseline level of attractive she has to meet. And most of it is attainable (don't be fat, look presentable when dressing up in the morning).
But big breasts and green eyes are a bonus for me, not a requirement. Women feel the same way about height/beards/etc. It'd be nice but tbh I want to frick someone who I can also talk to.
>In my experience once puberty is done and you have some real life experience (maturity) that won't matter anymore.
Frick. I'm 35 and I still have big boobs as a requirement for dating.
>It'd be nice but tbh I want to frick someone who I can also talk to.
I don't want to fall for the "she's nice to talk to" meme since from experience guy always settle for a 4/10 girl just because of her "personality". It happens way too often for comfort.
Don’t worry too much about breasts or ass, you’re watching too much porn. If you meet her in person do you actually wanna frick her or not, just follow your dick. Don’t frick women you’re not attracted to, it’s always gonna be a regret.
>Don’t frick women you’re not attracted to, it’s always gonna be a regret.
That's the source of my dilemma though.
>Have you ever been married? Had kids?
Nope
>But for women AND men your brain will want to frick who you vibe with.
That's the problem, I've wanted to frick 4/10s because of their personality. I've legit had to force myself from cutting them off my life before I got to that point.
Quit porn, it’s giving you unrealistic standards. Ofc you’re gonna be a picky moron when you got 1000s of women to pick from. Real life doesnt work that way.
I did quit porn, the only thing I read/watch is anime/manga these days. I don't even watch hentai either.
>Frick. I'm 35 and I still have big boobs as a requirement for dating.
Grow up a little. You're the male equivalent of some plain jane who 'NEEDS' a 6'3"+ man to give him a chance. 35 and single might be telling. Have you ever been married? Had kids?
>I don't want to fall for the "she's nice to talk to" meme since from experience guy always settle for a 4/10 girl just because of her "personality". It happens way too often for comfort.
You're taking this to the logical extreme. That's why I mentioned baseline attraction. Don't settle for 4/10's then.
Here's what I'm talking about:
My ideal woman physically is a tan woman with green eyes, dirty blonde hair, and large breasts. I met one. She looks like picrel. She was a great woman. Sexy, good frick, good vibes. In theory she tickled my lizard brain. But she was wayyy to 'granola'/hippy/weed. Still friends with her btw.
The one girl I really fell for and would give anything to be with again was a brunette with pale skin, average breasts, brown eyes. Looks like Sasha Grey. I loved her so much because she was exactly my type. Yuppie, professional, intelligent, same ethnic/cultural background, and same political views lmao.
I spend my nights thinking of the latter, not the former. And I'm not just talking about mental/romantic attraction like those polytards like to differentiate between. I'm referring to raw sexual attraction that we feel, the "I need to pull her by the waist and cum inside her" feeling.
Yes, for men visuals come first. But for women AND men your brain will want to frick who you vibe with. Give people chances if they don't meet narrow physical attributes. Sure, you won't eventually fall in love with some hamplanet. But the size of her breasts? C'mon bro lmao
>pic rel
Bruh, she's a 2/10 at best.
Show me a cropped body b***h with some fat breasts, wide hips, and big round ass and I’ll get turned on, now show her with a bloated ms piggy face and I’d call her a butterface (still would).
And leave her as a single mother, I’d take a slim pretty girl for a relationship or marriage over a thick b***h any day.
And the slim girl will dump your ass as soon as she finds out you're a deadbeat dad
Don’t care, just find another one. Some women are just made to be single mothers. Let god sort them outl
Cutting any more than this makes you look like a homosexual.
Your sister is a normal healthy woman. You’re an insecure wiener sucking effeminate homosexual.
this has been my goal since I started lifting a little over 1 year ago. why is it so hard bros you guys told me this would be easy
This is easy, just eat a lot of food and lift consistently for a year or two natty and you’ll get there depending on what you start with. Idk what else to tell you, there’s a reason people like muscles, they’re hard to get.
Btw you can just perma bulk and just keep lifting and you’ll eventually get there, I know I said it’s easy then hard but it all depends on your personal work ethic. A good body wouldn’t be worth shit if it was easy to achieve.
You’ll also want to be physically active for the rest of your life, engrain it into your being. Having a good body will be easy once you internalize that.
This is the ideal husband physique. Decent looking (compared to normies) for beach photos, strong enough to do chores and chase the kids, but just fat enough to repulse the 18-25 year old girls. Your sister would still rather bang and ONS men that look like zyzz, but she thinks that caliber of man would likely cheat on her because she is insecure, ugly or both
I think picrel is even better. Just lift heavy stuff and eat a lot.
Pure sex
If Tom Selleck was into weightlifting
That is *MUCH* lower bodyfat. Honestly the hair just hides the muscular definition.
That's not fat, that's bulking. The guy is clearly trained and probably outlifts you.
Thats not fat. That literally is the perfect body type.
Its incredibly sustainable, its strong, perfect body to cuddle with honestly.
I stopped working out for like 10 months and I gained 10kg of fat, not even considering the muscle weight I lost. I also stopped grooming my body hair.
My gf keeps rubbing my belly and always tells me that I'm much hotter now then I tell her that I want to get leaner again.
I visited my old workplace this week and the women all came to greet me and they told me that I look very sexy now.
Honestly I feel like I look worse but women seem to think I look hotter. This convinced me to now start a strength routine and only do arms as accessoires and be done with it all.
You always read it but don't believe it, but it is actually true. Women like it if you got some fat on you.
There is a reason for this. It makes them less insecure about their physique and gives them an excuse to stop trying. Most of them aren't aware of this, but it is the subconscious process going on.
That is some LULZ thinking.
My gf has since started to diet and is looking much hotter and our sexlife is much better too.
I didn't believe her that much that she liked me being fatter than before, but all the coworkers seemed to think that too so I guess they actually think that.
Anyways it might just be me personally that looks better to women with some higher bf%, but I guess I will stick to it.
And that's some anecdotal thinking. If you do even a cursory glance at any psych or evolutionary bio literature relating to female preferences as they relate to male physiques, you will find that women in general, like the ones at your work, were puffing themselves up by giving you a backhanded compliment without even knowing it.
you must have a nice face or something. you can't be this fat and still pull hoes. how tall are you
I'm not that fat I'm 80kg now, was 70kg before. I'm 183cm.
perfection
> t. homosexual
Women like size which means that you look better at 15% with a good amount of muscle than at 10% with the same muscle. 15% isn't even fat, it's just the lowest end of "healthy".
So yeah get jacked, stay at 15% most of the year, cut to 12% for summer
Women like big men. If that layer of fat makes him bigger but not a blob, that's probably appealing
my sister told me the same
Apparently they don't idolize fat but they don't want us to be lean/skinny either. "Big and healthy" is what they want I guess
This is what women mean when they say they like a dad bod. You can tell he works out pretty hard but doesnt care about how much food he eats. They get turned on by the muscles but his fat makes them not feel bad about their own shitty food choices.
>big arms
>wide shoulders
>big chest
>HURR Y WIMINZ LIEK FAT
As always, and forever more, just lift and you cannot go wrong.
Is recomp actually possible? 6'4" at 270 currently and want this at 220 or so
Give me the routine IST
>shaved arms
eel bros win again
Depends on the woman. Most prefer leaner.
Why are you showing pictures of half-naked men to your sister
Teens like twinks and adult women prefer more rugged men
Women don't like nasty abs showing.
It looks unnatural.
>Fat
>Can still see outline of tris, delts, abs, clavicle
You guys are deluded