New levels of cope

Jeff really is r*ddit: the fitness youtuber
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC68TLK0mAEzUyHx5x5k-S1Q/community?lb=UgkxqmQvnggJLYpZUyOsOJpI69YZnG3qnZwV

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    He's right, on this issue, but he's a huge fag who has to beat around the bush because he's tied his whole channel to CICO dogma.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >He's right, on this issue
      You know what? You're right. Obese people are eating and training like athletes but they just can't lose weight.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        It seems childish, to me, to believe humans are a magical ghost piloting an unconnected body. Most "thoughts" humanoids have are just post-hoc rationalizations of their impulses.

        If you fed a pig fattening food, what made the pig fat? The pigs choices? A pig could, after all, not eat.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          But they aren't pigs

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            The average westerner has no greater consciousness than a factory farm animal

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              You are too pessimistic about your fellow man. Touch grass

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          this would be the anality of man, for all our grace and thoughts, we are still just animals that shit

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I am an automaton
          I will meet you on the street and kill you, and not be culpable for my actions. expect me

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It seems childish, to me, to believe humans are a magical ghost piloting an unconnected body. Most "thoughts" humanoids have are just post-hoc rationalizations of their impulses.

      If you fed a pig fattening food, what made the pig fat? The pigs choices? A pig could, after all, not eat.

      >check out these retarded advertisements from half a century ago, this is what CICOtards unironically belive!
      I hate ketards so fucking much.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        CICO believers still to this day cite sugar industry advertisement (e.g. "twinkie diet") as evidence that food is just calories.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          They cite it as evidence that CICO works even if you go full retard with every other parameter of your diet, not as an actual recommendation, the way your advertisements do.
          I find it baffling that a grown adult could genuinely believe that conflating the two makes for a good argument. You are a low IQ subhuman. The most you could hope to get out of life is maybe reaching a dog's level of sentience one day.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >They cite it as evidence
            Yeah that's the problem. It's a paid coca-cola advertiser making unverifiable claims. It's only evidence that CICO is a sham.
            >CICO works
            It doesn't.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              only ketolards and hamplanets seethe about cico. almost as if they're the same people.
              btw post bmi

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        those adverts are actually true, sugar is good for you don't you know?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      yes technically he is right
      but he uses typcial reddit mental gymnastics to reach that point
      yes its not always black and white but it literally boils down to either you do something or you dont

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I want to fuck the Domino sugar queen

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    He is kinda right in the sense that no one choose outright to be obese,people just choose to eat tasty foods but the long term outcome is getting fat.
    Its basically like taking steroids,you take them to get muscular as fuck not to get heart disease 20 years into de future.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Of course nobody closes to get fat, but everyone has the choice to prevent it. He literally said in the post that some obese people make good food and exercise choices but remain obese, which is just not true.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Some obese people *think* they are maling good food choices. Idk how many delusional fatty clips I've seen where they're shocked at the calorie content of meals or how much they actually eat in a day.
        Obesity should be considered a sign of mental illness

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      nah, hes retarded. he has confused the choice of outcome with the choice of process. people choose to be obese because they choose the process of obesity.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I disagree that most people make any choices at all regarding obesity. There is no way that a normie obese women chooses cake over salad. It’s not happening. She sees cake, her monkey brain goes “ooh eeee ahh ahh” and she eats cake. There is no choice, there is no dissonance, at least not consciously.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Can you choose to stop breathing? The power of conscious choice is limited.

        Humans are animals guided by impulse. Thoughts are often rationalization for actions we do by impulse.

        Additionally, nutrition myth means when people do make conscious choices they're usually wrong. Jeff nippard himself is guilty of spreading harmful myths.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          you are a retard

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Genuine retards on this board.
          >can't you choose to stop smoking
          >choose to stop drinking alcohol

          Find me a fat fuck that is ignorant of the effects of their diet, if they know how bad it is, they have a choice.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Lose weight fat gay

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Fatalists deserve to be lined up and shot

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            the most baldcore image ever, possibly
            >juxtaposition of childrens cartoons with "serious themes"
            >getting epic for no reason
            >you not knowing what fatalism means
            >no argument except for "you can't know anything so you might as well believe in souls bro, it makes you happier bro"

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Holy cope. All that crying and you still didn't understand. Clearly you aren't going to fight and will perish like a dog. Lmao.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >repeats the epic catchphrase
                you dont believe in anything, you could never formulate your worldview because it's purely defined by contrarianism against people that annoy you

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >he's still seething and still doesn't understand
                What do you think that "epic catchphrase" means?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                the catchphrase implies that consciousness reductionism is irrelevant and you need to take agency of your life
                the problem is that this has nothing to do with whether consciousness reductionism is true, and that your 105 iq moron christcuck fantasy of every single action being informed and justified by a theory is ridiculous
                you think determinists just sit around and do nothing? or that moral anti-realists commit atrocities all the time?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >is irrelevant
                Yes. You should act as if it everything does have meaning as your suffering will be real enough as that's what your experience is.
                >moral anti-realists commit atrocities all the time?
                Not necessarily but they often use that justification for poor decisions that hurt others, society and themselves. "Dude it doesn't even matter anyway mannnn".

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Say you're depressed without saying you're depressed

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          This would be true if cakes magically spawned on your counter. Turns out you have to go out of your way not only to eat food, but to eat large amounts of food. We're not even talking about simple McDonald's meals here, we're talking a meal + shake + full sugar soda.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Can you choose to stop breathing
          what a retarded take
          breathing is a reflex action eating isnt
          even if you chose to hold your breath your body literally forces the reflex on you without a choice
          there is no reflex for stuffing your face with cake and chips all day while gargling it all down with a gallon of coke

          being fat is a fucking choice unless you have an extreme medical condition

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    He’s right in the sense that we need some empathy for the obese.

    For whatever reason obese people are much more attached to food. If I don’t think about what I eat, I lean towards being underweight because I’m too lazy to cook often. To bulk up and be at a good weight with all the lifting I do, I have to have a strict eating schedule to get enough calories.

    Some people who are obese show lots of willpower in other respects, like getting PhD’s or doing the career grind. For whatever reason, they are predisposed to be addicted towards sugar and food.

    Yes, they can change diet and exercise and CICO. But I remember being depressed for a few years, and doing school work and studying properly was hard. Yes I knew how to study, but it seemed like insurmountable torture. Eventually the depression got weaker and now I get all A’s because studying doesn’t feel as bad anymore. Let’s get real, part of why we are so IST is because we ended up liking lifting and it doesn’t feel as torturous to us as other people.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      No, he's wrong. Empathy? Let them die, that's the choice.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The moment we showed empathy for these fat retards was the moment the collapse started

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Fatties are weak but we shouldn't ignore the factors that exist now that allow or even encourage obesity, such as prevalence of fast/processed food, long commutes in cars to the sit at a desk all day, the increasing amounts of salt, fats and sugars in foods for 'flavor', "food deserts"
        A societal/structural fix may be needed

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Great point

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >tfw over 50% of adult population in developed countries are overweight or obese
      Does this mean being overweight is now the default state of things?

      You make an interesting point. Plenty of fat people show perseverance in other areas of life.
      I'm not big on determinism, but for sure, we are all predisposed to be good at something. But where do you draw the line? What if I'm all around a good guy, but just not made out to be a loving father and my kids grow up to resent me? Is that my fault, because I didn't try hard enough, or am I just a victim here?

      In my opinion, you have to try and beat your own genetics to a certain degree. If you don't like exercising and enjoy burgers, okay. You don't need to become a bodybuilder and eat chicken for every meal. That would just make you miserable. But at the same time, you don't need to completely give up and become morbidly obese.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Having a PhD myself, I have yet to find an actually decent, fat researcher.
      They all have low standards for their research output, basically showing the same flaws and weaknesses that made them fat pieces of shit in the first place.

      On the other hand, people in very good shape _tends_ to do better. Which makes sense, as the discipline and consistency required to be in shape is very similar to the one needed to perform well at work.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        yeah, I work in a research environment currently and am looking to do a PhD, very few fatsos around. most guys are at the very least lean and pretty much everybody exercises regularly.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >empathy for lardasses
      Gee, I wonder who could be behind this post

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      reddit spacing

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    why are midgets universally such terrible people? day of the steel toe can't come soon enough.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      i see these two a lot and i just dont udnerstad what attracted her to the millionaire cripple with a exceptionally short life expentancy
      i guess love just doesn't care

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        He pays her. Some kind of publicity shit on behalf of the crip. He tried the same thing with another chick. I don't think it's possible to fall in love with a cripple, unless you think of love as some kind of force outside human biology. Ultimately we fall in love as a process of our biological need. Not some disney bullshit. And as such, whom we love are likely to have a common list of desirable traits.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Post the pasta, the one where anon fantasizes about murdering this thing and rape it's wife

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    His argument is like saying a person who was driving recklessly without a seatbelt ends up getting crippled in a wreck didn't choose for that to happen because they wouldn't choose to be paralyzed. True, but it happened because of other choices they consciously made and understood the risk they were undertaking.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I think he is pretty fair in his assessment.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >why are midgets universally such terrible people?
    It's hard for them to be the bigger man.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      🙂

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    if obesity isn't a choice then him being strong isn't a choice

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Jeff mogs you any day of the week.
    Post body fatty.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I just listened to the entire video
    >CICO is end all be all
    >Obesity is, according to Jeff, not a choice and is instead a succession of small choices building up coagulated with an environment that supplies easy high calorie good tasting foods.
    >He also brings up different levels of NEAT, hunger, and fat sustenance in the body based on genetics as evidence that it isn't strictly a choice.
    I agree with Jeff's points that its easier for some people, but at the end of the day it is your choice to be obese. If you are child it isn't but this is assuming you make your own decisions now.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >>CICO is end all be all
      incoming ketolards

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Do ketolards even dispute CICO? Every serious diet shill I've ever seen has only been like "following this diet makes CICO easier/automatic"

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I agree with Jeff's points that its easier for some people, but at the end of the day it is your choice to be obese. If you are child it isn't but this is assuming you make your own decisions now.

      It is, but there are outside factors that can make it harder, or easier. When I was trying to give up junk food and lose weight, my roommate stopped buying junk food himself so I would be less tempted when I went for food. That was a TREMENDOUS help to me maintaining my cravings, and he didnt have to do it, and it was my choice to give into my cravings if I saw his junk food, but it just made it a lot easier on me.

      Nobody has infinite willpower, so everything that can help a person achieve their goals, is a move in the right direction.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >If you are child it isn't but this is assuming you make your own decisions now
      Childhood obesity is tragic. My slim mother had no malice, mental illness or feeding fetish in her, she just doted on her only child but worked too much to cook so she'd bring home all my favorite fried and sugary goyslop. I was overweight and heading to obese by age 7, was 80-100lbs overweight up til my mid teens, lost it all, gained most back, spent another couple years in misery and the lost it all again and kept it off from then on. But it seriously fucked up my development years. I had good genetics and probably would have been happy, but the casual disgust of everyone around me and my own self-loathing squandered it right up into my 20s.
      That disgust did motivate me to hate myself enough to lose weight as a teen, though, so go ahead and teach your kid to mildly bully fatasses. It's beneficial.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    First part of that comment is okay but the part about comparing fitness to money is ridiculous. To make a lot of money you need either an education and intellect or just luck. Past whatever disabilities and genetic factors affect you (and no your shit metabolism doesn’t count, fix your diet fatty) or mental illness depleting motivation, there isn’t luck or intellect involved here. Fitness isn’t a talent.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's disingeneous to compare not being fat with being rich, how about "not being poor" instead? Not being obese doesn't mean being an elite athlete, it just means you don't stuff your fucking face all the time, just like not being poor means you can get by, but you don't have to own a yacht and a penthouse.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >arguing semantics for views

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Meanwhile his chink wife stuffs her face by choice.

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    no such thing as free will

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Well, he's canadian.

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    We know that nutrition studies are basically worthless. We also know that people under report calory intake by a significant portion. Why then is this half man using them to make his retarded argument? Being fat is certainly a choice, you could possibly make the argument that if you are a sub 70IQ genuine retard that you cannot grasp the concept weight gain and weight loss. For everyone that is not an actual retard, it is definitely a choice.

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    He is correct that obesity is not "a" choice. It is a series of many many choices made over many many months. Think about that for a second. These people made the wrong choice at every single step of the way, every day for hundreds or thousands of days, and they continue to make the wrong choice every day. That is no mistake. These people are not absolved of responsibility. They intentionally and knowingly did this to themselves, and then they have the audacity to claim that they are in the right and we are in the wrong for taking care of our bodies. Fat people do not get an ounce of sympathy from me.

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ehh, OBESITY is a choice, but having a belly is not a choice for many including me, unless you eat completely pure and only have a cheat day once per month

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Having a belly is not a choice.
      Having a belly is a choice. You chose poorly. Cope more.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        This guy eats pizza twice a week, gobbles down sandwiches for lunch, and gets wasted on the weekends. Don't pretend that there's not a lot of slobs who manage to stay skinny by lifting or playing soccer, or nothing at all. That guy had a skinny build to begin with and never had a fat problem

        Wasted trips, you fat fucks should just admit your lack of commitment and willpower.

        Dumb moron. Yeah I admit I don't want to eat chicken and vegetables 7 days a week, and I do have a belly despite lifting 5 days a week + 2 days of jogging. I do eat relatively healthy and basically never exceed 2500 calories a day. 2000 on weekdays.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I don't eat like a slob you fat motherfucker. I am very strict with my diet and training. Grow up. You chose to be fat. Only you can change that.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Yeah I admit I don't
          Your choice, settle.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        mirin

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >DUDE I HAVE LE ABS THEREFORE I AM LE FIT-

        >*outlifts you*

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          kek powershartter cope. post body, dude looks fucking great

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Being fit means lifting heavy
          Retard

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Can't jog for more than 3 minutes

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Walks sideways

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Wasted trips, you fat fucks should just admit your lack of commitment and willpower.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous
      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I have strong arms

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          are they as strong as jeffs

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I don't eat cheat meals and I'm still fat. I have meat or eggs and veggies every day. I don't snack and I don't eat fast food.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Make a food diary, there are apps that make this easy for you
        Register every meal, snack, drink then calculate cals/macros
        Something's probably sneaking up on you

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You're eating carbs. Can't be overweight without carbs.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, it's probably the carbs.

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I think he's only right in the sense that many lardasses are ignorant, it's not a choice if you are never aware the choice existed. Like, some moron put you in a room and locks the door, it's a tiny room with 4 brick walls and a steel door so you declare "I am trapped" and sit down and do nothing, then one day someone comes in, reveals one of the bricks is a secret switch that unlocks the door, and asks why you chose to stay locked in the room for so long?

    A lot of fatties get so deep in the hopeless self loathing they don't believe there is a way out and then enablers tell them oh don't worry sweety it's not a choice, which is why I feel there is a moral duty to tell them it is a choice and tell them how to fix it and I think a lot of others feel the same and that's why we get so angry when people say this "it's not a choice" shit because we know it's a choice but the fatties might not and not knowing you have a choice is the same as no choice

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    This is just part and parcel with atheists.

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The fat fucks coping are so fucking disgusting, you are all inhuman

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Jfc

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    jeff nippard is 2'4

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      can confirm, this is him next to a car

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't know anyone obese who doesn't have seconds at dinner, or doesn't massively load their plate 2-3 times at holidays. It's a choice to continue to overeat to the point where you're not 20lbs overweight, you're over 100

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >No u don’t breath to live! It’s a series of breaths!!
    Dude did a video on something obvious cuz ran out of ideas for YT, kek

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >being not obese is like being rich
    Literally everyone will stop being obese if they go on diet. Being rich is always a numbers game because it's relative. Not everyone can be rich but everyone can be healthy weight.

    Retarded comparison.

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >be poor
    >save and invest carefully for many years
    >increase skills, get good degree, pay debts
    >no longer poor

    >be poor
    >buy movies and vidya every day
    >stop paying dembts
    >never save or invest
    >never improve

    Oh but its not a choice see because nobody actually wants to be poor and this guy has his brain wired differently so that he needs his dopamine hit from useless junk every day. It's not his fault its his brain and choices therefore not a choice.

    What a retarded defeatist attitude. Its just one big cope and can be applied to anything.
    >some people arent as smart as others so if they never study and get bad grades it's not their fault its not a choice
    >some people arent as strong as others so if they never lift and never get stronger it's not their fault it's not a choice

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Being RICH is being relatively more wealthy than average to some arbitrary extent. Not everyone can be this by definition.

      Being OBESE has nothing to do with your weight relative to others.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The problem with being poor is that some saving/investment options that would allow you to climb the ladder aren't open to you.
      For a good example look up pratchett boots theory

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        As a counter point I'd say that some forms of exercise aren't possible for fat people though obviously anything is going to help

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          yeah at the end of the day life isn't fair, some people will also find things harder than others through genetics, other circumstances of birth, bad luck etc.
          it's making the best of what you have that's important, and if that's not working seeking guidance/help instead of giving up on yourself

  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    My bmi is 22 and I don't think it's a choice
    I don't get why this makes people so angry

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      > my cholesterol is 9 mmol/l and I don't think it's a choice

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Well honestly I believe that if we were rating things on a 'choiceness' scale I'd definitely put being obese higher on the scale than I would high cholesterol (assuming that that is high cholesterol idk the scale)

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Well okay it's not a good example as it is variable individually, some people have familiar hyperlipidemia, and their cholesterol can be insanely high even if their diet is fine. Some people just have shitty lifestyle.

          But at the end of the day, it is always your choice to do or not od anything. Even if you are dealt a shit hand in life, it is your choice not to fight it and improve yourself. If you're born predisposed to become obese and have high lipids and die at a young age, no one will pat you on your back in the afterlife.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            The problem I see is that these types of people just don't want to acknowledge that some people can be given a shit hand, they just project their own experiences onto others and assume choices they never really had to make are easy
            People aren't really realistic either
            Perhaps just stabilising their weight is really the most realistic thing these people can hope for
            Btw I'm not talking about people being predisposed to being obese, I just mean someone who has been fed shit their entire life, who think the ideal dinner is 2000 calories in one sitting + snacks, who has been overweight or obese since they were 10 years old
            Idk man, I haven't known any fat people in my life, the person in my extended family who people gossip about being ridiculously fat is like 30 bmi at max, I didn't go to school with any fat people and so I guess I just have compassion for these people which having fat parents or friends or relatives would soon destroy

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Part of it is people want to compare themselves with others and feel superior.
              It's harder to feel superior to someone if you acknowledge that you're not playing on an even field

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                It's easy to feel superior to other people when you know the other person is objectively a piece of shit. I'm not going to go down a level because you're choose to play like a gay.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah I see you. Breaking the pathological behavioral patterns you have been taught by your parents is one of the most difficult, but also one of the most important things you have to in your life.

              I work in the medical field, so I have lost all of my compassion with fat people a long time ago. I'm fucking pissed that my work is often more difficult and time consuming because half people are fat, and my taxpayer money ends up paying for their treatment. Essentially I feel like they make me work harder and then take my money for it while telling me it's not their fault and they cannot possibly change anything about it. Fuck me.

  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    the simple answer to any fag typing this much shit is to say "shut up science bitch"

  30. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    but there is a difference how you as an indivual should relate to weight management which mostly comes down to creating a negative energy balance through diet and exercise and how we as a society should relate to these issues.
    even if the claim that all obese people are lazy and stupid is correct as a society we should try to solve this issue through more intelligent means.
    under what circumstances do people chose to overeat/ stay inactive and how can we make it harder for them to chose the thing that has a negative effect on all of society.
    if the obesity epidemic could be resolved by yelling at fat people we might have done it already

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >person eats to cope with negative emotions
      >people treat them badly
      >more negative emotions
      >eat more to drown them out
      yeah it's no wonder being mean to fatties doesn't fix the problem

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You're an idiot. Shaming works. That's why places like Japan are some of the only places where obesity isn't rampant. They have heavy social shaming. They even have fat shaming laws.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Japan has a much healthier food culture, also women generally are stay at home mothers which means they have more time to prepare nutritious foods and generally impart healthy habits to their children

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            And where do you think that all comes from? Japan has a huge shame culture, it heavily influences all of that.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            By the way, 71% of Japanese mothers work. Stay at home moms are a minority.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            no one's having kids in japan

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Mandatory yearly health checks enforced by the government which punishes the company if their workers don't get health checks. So companies will often pay workers to get checked or let them have time off work.
            Then at 30 you'll have a stomach width test and if its over like 34 waist they'll mark you as poor health and warn you for ages about what it causes.

  31. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    why do people like Jeff? He's a psued and 5'3 lol .

  32. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    This topic is always so stupid. The major reason why obesity is so widespread is because of dumb parents with their terrible, terrible diets. I see young girls with bellies nowadays and you know she's gonna feel awful and ugly.
    So the whole "choice" thing is retarded because kids are stupid, they don't know any better, the parents should. I've always blamed the parents and always will.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Literally the only reason obesity became epidemic is that the grain industry got the goverenment to tell everyone they should stop eating fat and add more carbs to their diet.

      That's it. That's 100% of the source of obesity. If the government tomorrow told people it was just a prank and they should stop eating carbs the trend would reverse.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah no

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Cope. No one has ever or will ever listen to these retarded government diet recommendations.

        Everyone is fat because there's 50 fast food restaurants everywhere offering 1,000 calories meals and everyone loves it.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yes and all those new useless office jobs don't help either.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      that just shifts the question to "is it really a parent's choice to negatively impact their child by letting them get fat" and also at some point you get old enough you can no longer fully blame your upbringing for your failings - it's not like you're incapable of change after 20

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >it's not like you're incapable of change after 20
        True but the first years matters most, it's not rocket science.
        People like Jeff still doesn't get it

  33. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    As someone who grew up poor, his last sentence is incredibly true. I love how he tries to make it an example of something that's not.

    I have family members who act like I somehow fell into my success rather than working every day to get it. Obese people are the same in that they feel envy that someone else made better choices than they did.

  34. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Anyone that needs his "advice" is a hopeless forever beginnercel so he doesn't want to alienate his audience of failures.

  35. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >it's not a choice, something you can't control
    Yeah. No.

  36. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    he would have a better point if he talked about the hormonal impacts of obesity and eating habits, and the homeostatic nature of the body
    even in obese people, the body tries to maintain equilibrium

    most people fail to lose weight because they don't set circumstances such that the least amount of willpower is required to overcome the hormonal drive of the body to maintain fat stores (e.g.: not keeping foods that you are prone to binge eating in the house)

  37. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I mean, if we want to twist the meanings of words and have a philosophical debate on the nature of free will and choice, the I guess he could have a point. In the same sense that morons are genetically predisposed towards low intelligence and aggression, which predisposes them toward vioelence, therefore it's not their "fault" or "choice"

    But does it actually matter?

  38. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Leaf youtuber

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