Lmao what a joke. Judo is so ineffective that it's prohibited to hunch or take a "wrestling" stance in comp because none of your techniques would work lmao. Sad.
> let me use your momentum against you and slam your head and body onto hard ground > it's okay, you'll just walk it off
https://i.imgur.com/QCndhhF.gif
b8, and shitty b8 at that
That's how you get headlocked senpai
I've competed at judo (green belt). Even against black-belts, if you don't "play their game" they won't be able to do shit. That's why it's Shido to be hunched over in competition. I'm not baiting.
Then you competed against shitty black-belts. The main problem with belt system is that the belt does not really indicate your skill (either in judo, or BJJ). The system of degrees in ex-Soviet countries works much better when to get a black-belt you must have a degree of candidate-master which means taking at least bronze in state championship and win at least 3 randoris during this championship.
>dont wear a gi in public >just wear a flexible cotton t shirt >judogay grabs my shirt >judogay tries to tries to throw me >I stay standing and shirt stretches and rips >punch judogay in the head
roflolmfao seems boxinggays cant stop winning
You do not wear pants either, do you? and you do not have arms, neck and waist so I can gram them?
sounds good and pretty similar. However, the main difference here is that you can't win 10 low-level competitions and earn required number of points. You need to win high-level competitions to earn a degree. In either case it is much better than BJJ, when the coach can give you a blue belt because you trained for 5 years
how are you going to grab me when a jabI've thrown over 10,000 times connects with your jaw? come in for a hug bro i promise my 6' 6" wingspan won't just barely clip ya and put your lights out for 5 min
No, techniques in bjj and grapling originated from judo. The Olympic judo rules prohibited groundwork because they want to make it look nice and dynamic. And most people find bjj style grapling boring.
>And most people find bjj style grapling boring.
this, IIRC the early days of UFC had fewer rules and were dominated by BJJ, but it became a meme how boring it was watching dudes grapple like that, so they changed the rules to nerf BJJ
>it's prohibited to hunch or take a "wrestling" stance in comp because none of your techniques would work
It's prohibited because the Olympic Comité decided it would look too much like wrestling otherwise.
The OIC was the worst thing that could've happened to Eastern martial arts.
>The OIC was the worst thing that could've happened to Eastern martial arts.
the worst thing that happened to eastern martial arts was coming into contact with the West and getting its shit pushed in.
Not really, no. A lot of Eastern martial arts are actually quite recent, and some developed in reaction to the West. The reverse also happened, kickboxing changed forever after Rick Roofus got whooped by Muay Thai low kicks. Kyokushin karate also developed in reaction to Muay Thai and kickboxing. Hell, even "old-school" karate took its kicks from Savate.
Go on YouTube and watch what happens when a kung fu guys fights and actual MMA fighter. There is literally hundreds of videos
Judo isn't Kung Fu though. Sanda is, and Sanda fighters do pretty well in K1. The kung-fu masters you see on YouTube usually don't spar because the CCP doesn't want to encourage violence. In Bruce Lee's words, they're trying to learn how to swim on dry land. This is also why Sanda does work: full contact sparring means you either filter out the bullshit or you never stop losing.
>Mixed fighting competitions don't typically show Asian styles doing well. >The current UFC meta is Muay Thai + BJJ >Ignoring the fact that a lot of big names like Connor McGregor, GSP, Wonderboy Thompson, Bas Rutten and the Machida brothers have a foundation in karate
The only western styles that fare well are wrestling and Dutch kickboxing, with the latter heavily borrowing from Muay Thai and kyokushin karate. Even taekwondo does quite well, but usually as a supplement to Muay Thai rather than as a base/foundation.
I guess there's also Savate, but that's rarely represented in mma because it's obscure (and underrated). So that makes three western styles that fare well.
This.
I really don't understand Asians. It's a sport made for academia not a legit fighting style. Saying you can beat someone up with judo is like saying you can beat someone up with football. Granted, footballers would probably be at the shit out of anyone who practices judo since they're much larger and probably have better endurance not to mention they're used to taking real hits.
Judo and boxing are the most dangerous martial arts for the street because they are the ones that will make you slam your head in the concrete.
A pure judo practitioner could kill someone in the street easy.
Yeah man, as I said, even the physical strength of judo isn't that high. Judo is mostly technique and using leverages, they don't train "strength" at all besides pulling motions. Between grappling martial artists, judokas are the weaker group
>a judoka >also see "a jujitiero"
see, this is the kind of shit that betrays you larping wankers.
You talk about this shit like it's a DnD class that automatically gives you a class bonus the moment you walk into a McDojo and buy your first set of pajamas.
There's never a hint of a qualifier for time spent, age or physical capacity, dedication, skill of trainer, none of that. Just "judoka = unbreakable grip".
Black person I lift shit for a living. I would remove your hobby-soft fingers like a fricking banana peel.
You didnt give any qualifiers for how long youve lifted or your age etc either LOL. Were talking about averages here. A random hood rat vs the average judoka. Who is gonna have a better grip? Im sorry you got diddled by some taekwondo sensei but i cant answer for that.
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>A random hood rat vs the average judoka
Oh wow someone trained at any level vs the lowest form of humanity.
You've set the bar quite high there, anon.
And the street rat stabs you anyway because he has nothing to lose.
Its weird that I see 100kg+ plus guys with no formal training bouncing effectively but zero 70kg "judokas" doing the same.
Real life vs pajama club I guess.
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AND YOURE STRONGER THAN SOMEONE WHO DOESNT LIFT! You just choked the argument dude. You admit a judo player would best someine u trained so long as they dont have a weapon. We agree chump.
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>AND YOURE STRONGER THAN SOMEONE WHO DOESNT LIFT
So the eternal question as per the shitty OP and every shitty OP like it is "hour for hour does judo present any benefits whatsoever vs plain strength training".
The answer is "no".
Pajamagays are delusional. They will not fight dudes that spent the time in the gym because they will get folded like origami.
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the real reason to do judo or another martial art with a competitive element is that just lifting weights is fricking boring after a few years. sparring and competing is much, much more fun than just picking things up and putting them down. training to get in bar fights or whatever moronic scenario people armchair theorize about happening is for fools with nothing to lose
not to mention that if you're already strong, you're coming in with a big advantage
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Drop seoi is the guard pull of judo: change my mind
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I would touch you baby boy and there's not much you could do about it tbh
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You're kind of a sour sally.
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>Its weird that I see 100kg+ plus guys with no formal training bouncing effectively but zero 70kg "judokas" doing the same.
Actually, I know a guy who was a professional bouncer in the UK for years and he's like 5'6" and a martial artist (grappler, primarily Judo)
Why are racists so proud of wrestling?
It's not even a martial art
Literally the entire point is to pin a guy on his back
There's no submissions or joint locks
It's moronic
There's an opening in my local club in a few months. I'm looking forward to joining.
I've no formal training in combat sports, but I've always gravitated towards throwing people in my own fights. I think it will be nice.
>tfw did a few years of folk wrestling as a teen >tfw did a few years of BJJ in early 20s >tfw 10 years of kickboxing with a good number of local competitions won >tfw 110kg at 181cm 30 year old boomer >tfw carry a knife in a no gun country
>dont wear a gi in public >just wear a flexible cotton t shirt >judogay grabs my shirt >judogay tries to tries to throw me >I stay standing and shirt stretches and rips >punch judogay in the head
Why did asians invent basically all the based martial arts but almost never use them? They are the weakest feminine race in existence what did they mean by this?
They don't. """Judo""" at school is literally ukemi. Judo clubs don't exist outside of high school, uni and kodokan
t. Lived there and tried to do judo
They have the most gold medals in judo (World Championships and Olympics) and is the best country in world wrestling championship (excluding soviet union) and 3rd best in the olympics (including soviet union) and they have argueably the greatest most technical pound for pound wrestler on the planet Yui Susaki, great up and coming boxers too
What else are you gonna do when you're stuck on an island for thousands of years? Invent different ways of fricking people up and creating the most depraved pornography to ever grace the sight of others.
why do asians invent so many unarmed martial arts in comparison to europeans?
the only western martial arts I can think of are wrestling and boxing
meanwhile asia has karate, kung fu, muay thai, judo, and a bunch more
Actual krav maga is just a self-defense system for IDF soldiers, it isn't some fancy John Wick gun Kata, they'd get about as much training in unarmed combat as any other military, the truth is unarmed combat is an afterthought for most militaries throughout history, firstly weapons are better at killing, secondly there's the reality of martial arts causing brain damage, and lastly only the most rudimentary moves from structured rules based martial arts actually translate to unarmed combat in reality, and this is usually a means of gaining the initiative so you can end up brutalizing your enemy with an eye gouge or a little genital mutilation.
Judo black belt at my gym turned a mugger (Black person) into a vegetable. Guy tried to mug him and Randy sent his skull into the pavement. In all honesty you just need to know judo defense and like 5 throws/trips and you'll be good.
Any competent striker would frick you up the moment you stop guarding your face and reach out to grab something on him. And that's even if he were wearing the ultradurable pajamas upon which your skills rely.
It never fails. "Combat sport" losers lack true self confidence so they have to tear others down to their shit level.
But let's be real, OP is almost certainly not trained in anything, they're probably just a fat moron trying to convince themselves that their unwillingness to change is lifting fault, not theirs.
>haha it's not about aggression >haha it's not about ego >haha we would only ever use it as a last resort
you're a bunch of gays >FRICK YOU, butthole, I WOULD KILL YOU IN A FIGHT, I HAVE A PLAID BELT IN MMA!!1!
Shotokan actually. He also trained BJJ, sumo and wrestling. However, that still means his striking is purely Shotokan albeit a modified version of the style.
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Here's a vid of him and his brother explaining the differences between their style and "orthodox" Shotokan.
Lol, judogays are the weaker ones between the martial artists. Wrestlers put up massive numbers in the bar, even in the lighter weight classes, they push a alot and have strong arms. Bjj guys are the same. But judogays are only strong in pulling motions. Judo practicioners don't bench, squat or deadlift. They pull pull pull (no deadlift). Even bjj guys have better strenght. Judo is mostly leverage-play
Look up mongolian judo training on youtube and list out the barbell lifts that the guys are doing. Do you honestly believe that national level judo practicioners arent strengthening their whole bodies as per their coaches instructions? If anything bjj guys are more addicted to the idea of using technique and ignoring strength differences.
I think the main issue with Asian martial arts is that most of the ones people actually practice have point systems whereas to avoid actually getting hurt while the prototypical Western martial arts are made such that you win by subduing the other guy. Because of this 90% of Asian martial arts experience means nothing.
To be clear I'm not saying there aren't martial arts from Asia that don't involve getting hit for real, just that most of what regular people actually practice excludes taking real hits and some low income nig who's learnt a few boxing tricks by bare knuckling it with the boys will hard mog most Asian practitioners just by the merit he's experienced real fighting.
Also judo is blatantly not worthwhile.
Lmao these threads always drag out the most insecure homos on the site. >m-m-muh famous professional fighter
skill gap doesn't overcome brute strength until you're at least competing at a state level.
You white collar homosexuals punching the 9-5 clock and doing an hour of pajama play a week so you can walk around imagining you're a secret weapon? You're a joke.
Seething that if only women knew you could beat up their bodybuilder boyfriends then you would be getting pussy. Protip. You can't. You're not that guy and you never will be. Stop watching gay action movies and pretending you're some kind of hand to hand monster. Literally just start picking heavy shit up you larping troons.
>sh-sh-she wouldn't be going out with him if she knew I could beat him in a fight!!1! >one d-d-day I'll come across a w-woman who senses I have the w-warrior s-spirit!1!!
>after 6 months to a year of regular sessions.
And there it is again. >6 months to a year >"regular sessions"
Whatever the frick that means, right?
An hour a day with a former pro?
An hour a week with poser who's been posing slightly longer than you?
But this is the ego they sell you chumps. The same one every delusion-cult martial arts school has relied on for centuries. The "we are, therefore I am" cult.
"Judokas have iron grips, and I am a judoka therefore I have an iron grips".
"MMA fighters are dangerous and I am an MMA fighter therefore I am dangerous".
And everybody in the room circle jerks each other because that's the code.
"We are, therefore I am..."
And no, the mentality you are describing doesn't last long in an MMA gym because the moment you start sparring you will get your ass kicked and it sucks and you either choose to get better or you quit.
I've seen tons of people quit just because their ego got hurt.
>because the moment you start sparring you will get your ass kicked
What age do most people actually start practicing martial arts? I started at like around 6 so this whole humility issue for sparring doesn't make sense to me.
Any age but you get muscle heads and gangbangers coming into the gym trying to prove something and getting their asses handed to them by a skinny 16 year old and they never come back. Those types either choose to make it a life style or just drop the whole thing the first time they get their ass kicked.
Judo > Wrestling
-https://youtu.be/Md1KET1tKYI?si=2IhV-G1VEIacEdQd
-https://youtu.be/cMLzQD6o4Ts?si=Uhsjc-BvEKIqA_LF
-https://youtube.com/shorts/EiQ7zUkWDy4?si=GjqhEhS5s51bilVF
-https://youtube.com/shorts/7cJ1cGvK7_A?si=HHHjUFUSshUXZqz6
-https://youtu.be/c1E0oSDwpMI?si=bH7Ky_pLvcjrJZxy
-https://youtu.be/IGwToidK3MI?si=AZfDmoisx5T8n9iV
-https://youtu.be/55q3LsnEVpU?si=TOFdUTpQ6P8QRNAu
Judo takes the most important part of wrestling (the takedowns) and perfects them, Judo also has way better ground work. SORRY! Wrestling is a homosexual sport through-and-through.
Bros I used to go to an MMA gym and really liked it. I loved the combo of judo and BJJ, so synergistic. I moved and now there’s only a BJJ gym near me. Would a gym likely also integrate other arts like judo in their pure BJJ classes?
homies with 0 hrs of training will shit on judo whilst flaunting the strength of bjj players (who aren't them) without knowing bjj is judo lite lol I will rape all naysayers itt
Lmao what a joke. Judo is so ineffective that it's prohibited to hunch or take a "wrestling" stance in comp because none of your techniques would work lmao. Sad.
Are you moronic?
I've competed at judo (green belt). Even against black-belts, if you don't "play their game" they won't be able to do shit. That's why it's Shido to be hunched over in competition. I'm not baiting.
I'm not taking adv from a green belt
>That's why it's Shido to be hunched over in competition
It's Shido cause you're stalling.
Then you competed against shitty black-belts. The main problem with belt system is that the belt does not really indicate your skill (either in judo, or BJJ). The system of degrees in ex-Soviet countries works much better when to get a black-belt you must have a degree of candidate-master which means taking at least bronze in state championship and win at least 3 randoris during this championship.
You do not wear pants either, do you? and you do not have arms, neck and waist so I can gram them?
Dunno how it works in seppostan but here in ausfailia you have the earn points through wins in competition to get judo black belt
sounds good and pretty similar. However, the main difference here is that you can't win 10 low-level competitions and earn required number of points. You need to win high-level competitions to earn a degree. In either case it is much better than BJJ, when the coach can give you a blue belt because you trained for 5 years
how are you going to grab me when a jabI've thrown over 10,000 times connects with your jaw? come in for a hug bro i promise my 6' 6" wingspan won't just barely clip ya and put your lights out for 5 min
> let me use your momentum against you and slam your head and body onto hard ground
> it's okay, you'll just walk it off
b8, and shitty b8 at that
That's how you get headlocked senpai
No, techniques in bjj and grapling originated from judo. The Olympic judo rules prohibited groundwork because they want to make it look nice and dynamic. And most people find bjj style grapling boring.
>And most people find bjj style grapling boring.
this, IIRC the early days of UFC had fewer rules and were dominated by BJJ, but it became a meme how boring it was watching dudes grapple like that, so they changed the rules to nerf BJJ
>it's prohibited to hunch or take a "wrestling" stance in comp because none of your techniques would work
It's prohibited because the Olympic Comité decided it would look too much like wrestling otherwise.
The OIC was the worst thing that could've happened to Eastern martial arts.
>The OIC was the worst thing that could've happened to Eastern martial arts.
the worst thing that happened to eastern martial arts was coming into contact with the West and getting its shit pushed in.
Not really, no. A lot of Eastern martial arts are actually quite recent, and some developed in reaction to the West. The reverse also happened, kickboxing changed forever after Rick Roofus got whooped by Muay Thai low kicks. Kyokushin karate also developed in reaction to Muay Thai and kickboxing. Hell, even "old-school" karate took its kicks from Savate.
Judo isn't Kung Fu though. Sanda is, and Sanda fighters do pretty well in K1. The kung-fu masters you see on YouTube usually don't spar because the CCP doesn't want to encourage violence. In Bruce Lee's words, they're trying to learn how to swim on dry land. This is also why Sanda does work: full contact sparring means you either filter out the bullshit or you never stop losing.
You'd get your shit pushed in by 50kg Thai boys first figuratively then literally
Brother, they taught you wrong as a joke. Mixed fighting competitions don't typically show Asian styles doing well.
>Mixed fighting competitions don't typically show Asian styles doing well.
>The current UFC meta is Muay Thai + BJJ
>Ignoring the fact that a lot of big names like Connor McGregor, GSP, Wonderboy Thompson, Bas Rutten and the Machida brothers have a foundation in karate
The only western styles that fare well are wrestling and Dutch kickboxing, with the latter heavily borrowing from Muay Thai and kyokushin karate. Even taekwondo does quite well, but usually as a supplement to Muay Thai rather than as a base/foundation.
I guess there's also Savate, but that's rarely represented in mma because it's obscure (and underrated). So that makes three western styles that fare well.
Fricking based, none of these DYEL Judo gays could ever get me on the ground.
Lol based
>hey man where's your jacket I can't throw you without a belt and jacket
A lot of the throws you can do without a Gi.
At that point just learn no-gi bjj or wrestling lmao
That's gay.
No matter what you wear a judogay would just pick you up and slam you into the pavement faster than the average worlstar Black person though.
Yes, I simply need to grab their arm with my hand. No other hand. No up here.
Bruh 80% of throws can be done from a collar tie and tricep grip
Very fitting reaction image you clown pussy.
This.
I really don't understand Asians. It's a sport made for academia not a legit fighting style. Saying you can beat someone up with judo is like saying you can beat someone up with football. Granted, footballers would probably be at the shit out of anyone who practices judo since they're much larger and probably have better endurance not to mention they're used to taking real hits.
Judo and boxing are the most dangerous martial arts for the street because they are the ones that will make you slam your head in the concrete.
A pure judo practitioner could kill someone in the street easy.
Thing is, good luck doing an ippon seoi nage or any other shit against an uncooperative person lmao
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Yeah man, as I said, even the physical strength of judo isn't that high. Judo is mostly technique and using leverages, they don't train "strength" at all besides pulling motions. Between grappling martial artists, judokas are the weaker group
Every throw starts with an effort to unbalance the opponent. Try to pull a judoka's hand off of your gi. You are full of shit dude
>a judoka
>also see "a jujitiero"
see, this is the kind of shit that betrays you larping wankers.
You talk about this shit like it's a DnD class that automatically gives you a class bonus the moment you walk into a McDojo and buy your first set of pajamas.
There's never a hint of a qualifier for time spent, age or physical capacity, dedication, skill of trainer, none of that. Just "judoka = unbreakable grip".
Black person I lift shit for a living. I would remove your hobby-soft fingers like a fricking banana peel.
You didnt give any qualifiers for how long youve lifted or your age etc either LOL. Were talking about averages here. A random hood rat vs the average judoka. Who is gonna have a better grip? Im sorry you got diddled by some taekwondo sensei but i cant answer for that.
>A random hood rat vs the average judoka
Oh wow someone trained at any level vs the lowest form of humanity.
You've set the bar quite high there, anon.
And the street rat stabs you anyway because he has nothing to lose.
Its weird that I see 100kg+ plus guys with no formal training bouncing effectively but zero 70kg "judokas" doing the same.
Real life vs pajama club I guess.
AND YOURE STRONGER THAN SOMEONE WHO DOESNT LIFT! You just choked the argument dude. You admit a judo player would best someine u trained so long as they dont have a weapon. We agree chump.
>AND YOURE STRONGER THAN SOMEONE WHO DOESNT LIFT
So the eternal question as per the shitty OP and every shitty OP like it is "hour for hour does judo present any benefits whatsoever vs plain strength training".
The answer is "no".
Pajamagays are delusional. They will not fight dudes that spent the time in the gym because they will get folded like origami.
the real reason to do judo or another martial art with a competitive element is that just lifting weights is fricking boring after a few years. sparring and competing is much, much more fun than just picking things up and putting them down. training to get in bar fights or whatever moronic scenario people armchair theorize about happening is for fools with nothing to lose
not to mention that if you're already strong, you're coming in with a big advantage
Drop seoi is the guard pull of judo: change my mind
I would touch you baby boy and there's not much you could do about it tbh
You're kind of a sour sally.
>Its weird that I see 100kg+ plus guys with no formal training bouncing effectively but zero 70kg "judokas" doing the same.
Actually, I know a guy who was a professional bouncer in the UK for years and he's like 5'6" and a martial artist (grappler, primarily Judo)
Imagine being confined to one single style of martial arts, it is like you are asking to get your shit wrecked
>kudo
>sambo
ENTER
I did kudo in japan for 2 years. It's esentially half-arsed mma with minimal quality control. The appeal is solely exoticism
Black person what the frick are you talking about?
Have you ever seen a judo match?
There's tons of hunching down, everyone does it
? It's shido. You don't know shit lmao. They force one to stand completely strong
No you don't know shit
They're hunching over all the time
That's when have already taken a grip of each other's kimonos, and are readying to throw. But before gripping I'm sure it's prohibited, ask any judge.
How does that make any difference?
Have you ever wrestled before?
Ok so they can only act like wrestlers that have a collar tie SOOOO limiting!
fpbp
Look at all the judohomosexuals seethe. A wrestler of equal skill would mog you any day in a freestyle grappling match.
until you get choked out or get put into an armbar lol
Why are racists so proud of wrestling?
It's not even a martial art
Literally the entire point is to pin a guy on his back
There's no submissions or joint locks
It's moronic
>Why are you walking around in pajamas bro?
>*shoots you*
There's an opening in my local club in a few months. I'm looking forward to joining.
I've no formal training in combat sports, but I've always gravitated towards throwing people in my own fights. I think it will be nice.
If you haven't learned judo by 25 it's too late. Also judo is only god tier if you are above 200lbs.
I know aikido.
>*Everyone in this thread got flipped off their chairs (I'm a psychic too)*
your spiritual pressure is too strong for me tbh
>tfw did a few years of folk wrestling as a teen
>tfw did a few years of BJJ in early 20s
>tfw 10 years of kickboxing with a good number of local competitions won
>tfw 110kg at 181cm 30 year old boomer
>tfw carry a knife in a no gun country
I wish you would
>Shoots you
>survived gunshot wounds before
Why don’t you carry a gun?
>but muh laws!
homosexual
>dont wear a gi in public
>just wear a flexible cotton t shirt
>judogay grabs my shirt
>judogay tries to tries to throw me
>I stay standing and shirt stretches and rips
>punch judogay in the head
roflolmfao seems boxinggays cant stop winning
>judogay tries to thr
>woke up in hospital
>neck in traction
>nurses laughing at small peepee
Fixed it for you
Why did asians invent basically all the based martial arts but almost never use them? They are the weakest feminine race in existence what did they mean by this?
90% of Japan knows Judo.
They don't. """Judo""" at school is literally ukemi. Judo clubs don't exist outside of high school, uni and kodokan
t. Lived there and tried to do judo
They have the most gold medals in judo (World Championships and Olympics) and is the best country in world wrestling championship (excluding soviet union) and 3rd best in the olympics (including soviet union) and they have argueably the greatest most technical pound for pound wrestler on the planet Yui Susaki, great up and coming boxers too
What else are you gonna do when you're stuck on an island for thousands of years? Invent different ways of fricking people up and creating the most depraved pornography to ever grace the sight of others.
why do asians invent so many unarmed martial arts in comparison to europeans?
the only western martial arts I can think of are wrestling and boxing
meanwhile asia has karate, kung fu, muay thai, judo, and a bunch more
Martial arts is a tool of a weak, to fight stronger opponents.
Asians were disarmed under their rulers. They had no choice but to fight with their hands. European men, even peasants, were armed.
>jews invent krav maga whilst laundering weapons from the United States
>teehee we’re so weak and defenceless goyim please spare us some change
krav maga is ass, it has zero actual techniques of any kind. I mean that literally.
Actual krav maga is just a self-defense system for IDF soldiers, it isn't some fancy John Wick gun Kata, they'd get about as much training in unarmed combat as any other military, the truth is unarmed combat is an afterthought for most militaries throughout history, firstly weapons are better at killing, secondly there's the reality of martial arts causing brain damage, and lastly only the most rudimentary moves from structured rules based martial arts actually translate to unarmed combat in reality, and this is usually a means of gaining the initiative so you can end up brutalizing your enemy with an eye gouge or a little genital mutilation.
Euros invented plenty of martial arts. It's just that wrestling and boxing are the only ones that became spectator sports.
Kung fu isn't a martial art dumbass it's a catch all term dumb westerners use to describe hundreds of different styles and lineages
And theyre all shit
>fightgays jerk off about entirely hypothetical scenarios that would never actually happen thread #470279295956832
>Captcha SMHH2
judo sucks and was designed solely as a marital art for it's own sake. It has no practical implementation. Judo exists so people can do judo.
Judo black belt at my gym turned a mugger (Black person) into a vegetable. Guy tried to mug him and Randy sent his skull into the pavement. In all honesty you just need to know judo defense and like 5 throws/trips and you'll be good.
Stop lying on the internet.
Any competent striker would frick you up the moment you stop guarding your face and reach out to grab something on him. And that's even if he were wearing the ultradurable pajamas upon which your skills rely.
>that thing you're doing?
>yeah it's doesn't matter because of thing someone else is doing
non sequitur.
It never fails. "Combat sport" losers lack true self confidence so they have to tear others down to their shit level.
But let's be real, OP is almost certainly not trained in anything, they're probably just a fat moron trying to convince themselves that their unwillingness to change is lifting fault, not theirs.
>haha it's not about aggression
>haha it's not about ego
>haha we would only ever use it as a last resort
you're a bunch of gays
>FRICK YOU, butthole, I WOULD KILL YOU IN A FIGHT, I HAVE A PLAID BELT IN MMA!!1!
Bold of you to assume that judokas don't bench lmao3pl8 on average.
Go on YouTube and watch what happens when a kung fu guys fights and actual MMA fighter. There is literally hundreds of videos
Not kung-fu, but Lyoto Machida is a black belt in kyokushin karate and attributed a lot of his success in the octagon to the style.
Shotokan actually. He also trained BJJ, sumo and wrestling. However, that still means his striking is purely Shotokan albeit a modified version of the style.
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Here's a vid of him and his brother explaining the differences between their style and "orthodox" Shotokan.
anyone who can't bench at least two plates probably isn't winning any medals in judo tbh
Lol, judogays are the weaker ones between the martial artists. Wrestlers put up massive numbers in the bar, even in the lighter weight classes, they push a alot and have strong arms. Bjj guys are the same. But judogays are only strong in pulling motions. Judo practicioners don't bench, squat or deadlift. They pull pull pull (no deadlift). Even bjj guys have better strenght. Judo is mostly leverage-play
Look up mongolian judo training on youtube and list out the barbell lifts that the guys are doing. Do you honestly believe that national level judo practicioners arent strengthening their whole bodies as per their coaches instructions? If anything bjj guys are more addicted to the idea of using technique and ignoring strength differences.
>pulling motions
holy moronic
test
Thing is, good like doing an ippon seoi nage or any other shit against an uncooperative person lmao
I am naturally immune to judo, as I am always naked and completely soaked in grease. Good luck.
I think the main issue with Asian martial arts is that most of the ones people actually practice have point systems whereas to avoid actually getting hurt while the prototypical Western martial arts are made such that you win by subduing the other guy. Because of this 90% of Asian martial arts experience means nothing.
To be clear I'm not saying there aren't martial arts from Asia that don't involve getting hit for real, just that most of what regular people actually practice excludes taking real hits and some low income nig who's learnt a few boxing tricks by bare knuckling it with the boys will hard mog most Asian practitioners just by the merit he's experienced real fighting.
Also judo is blatantly not worthwhile.
It's hilarious you think that because a Muay Thai practitioner would destroy a boxer, and a Judoka would destroy a wrestler.
Many such cases
Westerners had to put boxing gloves on the thais because they were literally coating their knuckles in glass and killing each other for fun
Lmao these threads always drag out the most insecure homos on the site.
>m-m-muh famous professional fighter
skill gap doesn't overcome brute strength until you're at least competing at a state level.
You white collar homosexuals punching the 9-5 clock and doing an hour of pajama play a week so you can walk around imagining you're a secret weapon? You're a joke.
Seething that if only women knew you could beat up their bodybuilder boyfriends then you would be getting pussy. Protip. You can't. You're not that guy and you never will be. Stop watching gay action movies and pretending you're some kind of hand to hand monster. Literally just start picking heavy shit up you larping troons.
>false dichotomy
Frick off powercoper
>sh-sh-she wouldn't be going out with him if she knew I could beat him in a fight!!1!
>one d-d-day I'll come across a w-woman who senses I have the w-warrior s-spirit!1!!
You're simply not aware of the unfair advantage that MMA training in parts after 6 months to a year of regular sessions.
>after 6 months to a year of regular sessions.
And there it is again.
>6 months to a year
>"regular sessions"
Whatever the frick that means, right?
An hour a day with a former pro?
An hour a week with poser who's been posing slightly longer than you?
But this is the ego they sell you chumps. The same one every delusion-cult martial arts school has relied on for centuries. The "we are, therefore I am" cult.
"Judokas have iron grips, and I am a judoka therefore I have an iron grips".
"MMA fighters are dangerous and I am an MMA fighter therefore I am dangerous".
And everybody in the room circle jerks each other because that's the code.
"We are, therefore I am..."
>Whatever the frick that means, right?
4-6 hours a week
And no, the mentality you are describing doesn't last long in an MMA gym because the moment you start sparring you will get your ass kicked and it sucks and you either choose to get better or you quit.
I've seen tons of people quit just because their ego got hurt.
>because the moment you start sparring you will get your ass kicked
What age do most people actually start practicing martial arts? I started at like around 6 so this whole humility issue for sparring doesn't make sense to me.
Any age but you get muscle heads and gangbangers coming into the gym trying to prove something and getting their asses handed to them by a skinny 16 year old and they never come back. Those types either choose to make it a life style or just drop the whole thing the first time they get their ass kicked.
To be a head instructor you need to be 6th dan m8
And that's nothing to sneeze at
Most guys that rank who aren't world champions are in their 50's
Judo > Wrestling
-https://youtu.be/Md1KET1tKYI?si=2IhV-G1VEIacEdQd
-https://youtu.be/cMLzQD6o4Ts?si=Uhsjc-BvEKIqA_LF
-https://youtube.com/shorts/EiQ7zUkWDy4?si=GjqhEhS5s51bilVF
-https://youtube.com/shorts/7cJ1cGvK7_A?si=HHHjUFUSshUXZqz6
-https://youtu.be/c1E0oSDwpMI?si=bH7Ky_pLvcjrJZxy
-https://youtu.be/IGwToidK3MI?si=AZfDmoisx5T8n9iV
-https://youtu.be/55q3LsnEVpU?si=TOFdUTpQ6P8QRNAu
Judo takes the most important part of wrestling (the takedowns) and perfects them, Judo also has way better ground work. SORRY! Wrestling is a homosexual sport through-and-through.
>Stepping into the all state ring with me
>He doesn't have a 405 deadlift
>Sukui Nage intensifies
Oh Yeah?
Oh Yeah?
>nice martial arts broski
>*stabs you*
Bros I used to go to an MMA gym and really liked it. I loved the combo of judo and BJJ, so synergistic. I moved and now there’s only a BJJ gym near me. Would a gym likely also integrate other arts like judo in their pure BJJ classes?
*is thrown*
*uses the momentum to flip 3 times and land perfectly*
homies with 0 hrs of training will shit on judo whilst flaunting the strength of bjj players (who aren't them) without knowing bjj is judo lite lol I will rape all naysayers itt