Yes, and then it transforms to anger (with a concomitant high energy state) very soon and then it transforms of a stoic, magnanimous and aristocratic state
The point of nofap is that on its own it won't fix your life, it's better than its alternative, which is masturbation. It's like, if you stop doing drugs you won't suddenly become successful in life. But it's still better than doing them
It took me two months and then after much concentration while fricking I was able to cum in my then gf, now wife. Unironically in the missionary position. Don't give up anon.
thanks for hope, fren
Like I told the other anon, don't give up. It may take you longer maybe shorter.
nofap is just a magic cure-all purported by incels because it sounds easier on paper than figuring out what their real problems are
the irony is that despite all their dogmatic shilling, very few of them will ever manage to do it long enough to find out it doesn't actually do anything
You've spent God knows how long smashing the dopamine button on your brain over and over and over again as soon as the high tapers off. It's the same thing with fatties and eating, and how they b***h and moan and feel awful while trying to diet: you've conditioned yourself to indulging as soon as your brain starts giving you hunger cues, and now your brain is throwing a fit. Nofap is like dieting for your dick.
Yes. It becomes cleaner and strong. You're still gonna have shitty days but it's more of a challenging thing to do over a "PROBLEM".
Youll workout more or read books. Games become really gay. Women become less alluring and you stop caring about random thots. You start to see the quality of some these "hot girls".
Hot prostitutes are jumping the caste system primarily through the power s8mhjgof social media.
One of the hottest prostitutes I know runs fricking games off of dudes but she is legit such a fricking evil b***h its not funny.
Think about it this way. Mens toxic trait would be anger and killing everything thats in the way. Diplomacy is hard and all that.
Women's violence is seduction. They cause men's minds to wander. The average woman has so much access to psychological understanding and exist in such a pro bawd society that that are absolute monsters.
Yoga pants, booty shorts, belly exposure etc. All very immodest but you seen fricking mothers of six wearing this shit.
Seeing guys on insanely long streaks (like at a year plus) either not changing much or looking depressed made me give up on it. I figured if not much will change I don't want to stress myself out pretending I don't have a sex drive. I know on nofap you can still technically have sex, even though it's usually mixed up with semen retention, but you can't really rely on women for sex either unless you're basically really lucky looks wise or in the type of woman you find. I've seen how women withhold sex or make themselves ugly so you won't even want to frick them anymore and it's just not worth dealing with either for what should be a ridiculously simple act. That's without mentioning the diseases. I won't say porn is healthy but the way things are set up now it's like a no win situation.
>rabbi
That was predictable but it doesn't change how things are.
Nofap isn't a miracle cure. If you aren't simultaneously taking care of your body and mind and fixing problems in your life, you won't see benefits. If your diet is shit, you don't meditate, you drink alcohol, or you engage in other soul-draining activities, you won't be able to build up the life force energy from semen retention. Your seed has the power to create new life. Of course wasting it is doing yourself a disservice and draining you; how could it not be? Giving up porn and masturbation is certainly a step in the right direction, but it isn't the entire path.
But that's the problem your life gets better from actually improving yourself through other actions and decisions or having access to things that otherwise improve your health, not holding in semen. We're designed to release semen regularly, with a woman not to porn but again women aren't reliable for that anymore. That's why guys can accomplish so much even without holding it in and guys holding it in will look miserable or unchanged.
>women aren't reliable
Guys want to improve themselves to get a reliable source for pumping their semen. Jerking off into oblivion stops you from doing that and is no different than guys holding it in for over a year with no real sex
Working hard and improving yourself doesn't get you access to reliable pussy because the women aren't held to basic standards or told to meaningfully improve themselves anymore so they don't reciprocate like they should. You can jerk off and still get shit done for example exercising or not drinking. It's not complicated shit but counting on women for fairness or reliability has been shown so many times not to work.
There is a clear difference between when I take care of everything else in my life AND do semen retention, vs. when I just take care of everything else. In the former case, I feel much more energetic, focused, poised, and confident. And there are literally hundreds of similar stories on 4chins if you just look. You're wasting your life force every time you ejaculate without the intention of conceiving a child.
Nofap isn't a miracle cure. If you aren't simultaneously taking care of your body and mind and fixing problems in your life, you won't see benefits. If your diet is shit, you don't meditate, you drink alcohol, or you engage in other soul-draining activities, you won't be able to build up the life force energy from semen retention. Your seed has the power to create new life. Of course wasting it is doing yourself a disservice and draining you; how could it not be? Giving up porn and masturbation is certainly a step in the right direction, but it isn't the entire path.
unironically this, the very first thing that happens when you stop numbing yourself with porn, medication, booze, etc is the realization that you gotta do something with your life, if you already have a goal you're gonna get some crazy focused motivation to see it trough, but if you do nothing all day you're just gonna be depressed, like a caged monkey in a zoo.
I used to JO to my imagination as a teenager of other girls I liked. It actually made me feel like an introvert pervert. Nofap and noporn is the only path to glory.
Wet dreams are a sign of you returning to normal after years of chronic masturbation. When I started doing NoFap I started getting morning wood and wet dreams again after a month.
I've tried that before. My problem with noporn only is that I always have difficulty fapping to imagination, which leads me right back to porn. And The Easy Peasy Way is cringe, it's just the same shit being repeated over and over again, and it's not even original, someone just did "find and replace" with a smoking cessation book.
I get way more turned on imagining vanilla shit like kissing then I do when I binge on porn. I can feel how obliterated my attention span is because I get like 10-15 seconds of arousal out of a picture before I have to move onto the next one.
I dunno if full-on Nofap is the way to go. Much like anything, just don't do it to excess. Don't jack off six times a day. Like once a week or two max.
Unrelated, but it reminds me of my mom's doctor's husband. He's from South Africa and legit used to be a child soldier. He said the handlers would go in the tents and make sure no one was spanking it before a battle so they's be extra pent up before a battle.
>Unrelated, but it reminds me of my mom's doctor's husband. He's from South Africa and legit used to be a child soldier. He said the handlers would go in the tents and make sure no one was spanking it before a battle so they's be extra pent up before a battle.
Unrelated? Absolutely related. "Once or twice a week" will still make you a weakling compared to zero.
Nofap exists to help push you towards getting a GF. Also to stop watching porn, this is the main point of nofap. Masturbation doesn't hurt you in any form; however porn does, porn is the root problem for everything plaguing young men today.
If you're feeling horny go for it and bust a nut, USE YOUR IMAGINATION. DON'T USE PORN.
Stop putting a psychological jail around everything you do.
Half the reason nofap even became a movement because incels were death grippin' their john, while getting overstimulated with porn. When given the opportunity to get some pussy they weren't able finish or get it up.
The quality level of sleep I get from either after having sex with release or just masturbation is insane, I feel recharged up and all the irritability I usually feel from abstaining goes away.
Masturbation is harmful in that it releases the stress hormone which makes you more anxious for the next couple days. People can debate whether it's natural or not, but it is not optimal.
Do you really think men doing nofap will find a gf to cum inside into? homie I'm doing nofap so that I can avoid mental breakdowns, I ain't getting a woman in this lifetime
If only these boxes were tighter and had wheels and were steered by our eye movements with near instant death at a moment's distraction, THEN WE WOULD BE FREE
you guys are crazy, i fap a minimum of 2 times per day. I already fapped today, and then i saw this thread which lead me to jerk off and cum twice back to back just to beat my refractory period into submission.
thanks for the motivation, keep it up nerds, youll all make it (lol)
I am so glad I finally made it to work! Ah I can't wait for today to be over! Maybe we will garner more traffic today and stay in business! Remember to work extra hard today, everybody! Our sales depend on your hard work and can do attitude!
homosexuals on IST will do literally anything but get a job application or talk to women
Mate you doing nofap ain't the cause of your problems
It's the little b***h you see every time you look in a mirror
Consider manning the frick up for once in your life instead of whining about your moronic israelite-op not working or w/e the frick you're flapping about
Why do you morons spout this shit? Getting a job will hangers nothing and there's no point in speaking to women or even socialising if you're ugly in current year
Not him but getting a job gets some kind of income that you can spend on hobbies (like learning a musical instrument or something that needs money investment). Talking to women is completely pointless though, their standards are too high, and romance shouldn't be work. Effort should be spent only on something you can change.
Honestly most communities are filled with man children who like tate, or religious nutcases. You gotta pick which one you wanna put up with. The religious ones are better imo. I stopped engaging in a community for it after like 3 months because it was fricking stupid.
That anxiety is what addicts feel when they stop doing the thing they're addicted to. You make a mistake by keeping it alive. It's supposed to feel bad for a while.
I'm about a month in and no sex since July and I've never really been this on edge in my life.
Lifting feels like it makes it worse, especially the next day when I can feel all that test flowing...
Does anyone feel that they have unrealistic standards in women due to porn? I'm a volcel for 10 years now because I reject every 5/10 and below. I'm trying nofap and I'm curious if I'll find a change in attraction to women who I used to reject. I'm currently 26 days in and I'm not sure if much has changed. I think I'd frick a chubby chick though, and I'm currently really regretting some otherwise cute ones that I rejected recently. But I'm also worried that I'd feel a very deep sense of shame afterward if I did frick a chubby girl.
Anything beyond 7 days is a scam and it's been proven a scam
Anyone saying something else is trying to rope you into some bigger scam like their weird community or religion
If you can nut once every week it will optimize your test and keep down your prolactin
This, seems like the most sensible approach. I am trying it myself to very promising results. Better focus and energy throughout the day aswell as having a stronger desire to and performing better when lifting. even if it's mostly placebo it feels good man.
For me its a day 3 irritability hump
Yes, and then it transforms to anger (with a concomitant high energy state) very soon and then it transforms of a stoic, magnanimous and aristocratic state
Is this like a period cycle for men?
I think we have wet dreams in a similar fashion. I get a prety horned up 4am blow the fricking front out of my pants about a month in.
The real problem is porn I believe. This includes social media.
Yeah just give it some time and don’t break. Find other things to do to occupy your time. Keep moving.
Why even bother doing it?
Masturbation kills me on every level. I feel like shit if I do it, regardless whether porn is involved or not (the former is obviously worse).
you only feel like shit when you nut
the solution is to not nut
t. day 34 of nonut
The only real answer is to increase sensitivity. Nofap cured my death grip syndrome.
Day 25 here, I'm still pretty depressed and irritable most of the time.
How long did it take you? I previously made it 21 days and it didn't help much.
The point of nofap is that on its own it won't fix your life, it's better than its alternative, which is masturbation. It's like, if you stop doing drugs you won't suddenly become successful in life. But it's still better than doing them
It took me two months and then after much concentration while fricking I was able to cum in my then gf, now wife. Unironically in the missionary position. Don't give up anon.
Like I told the other anon, don't give up. It may take you longer maybe shorter.
thanks for hope, fren
Large nut
NoFap is higher meaning of life. Pleb like you would not understand.
nofap is just a magic cure-all purported by incels because it sounds easier on paper than figuring out what their real problems are
the irony is that despite all their dogmatic shilling, very few of them will ever manage to do it long enough to find out it doesn't actually do anything
Being depressed helped me in my no fap journey. I dont think I could have made it on my own
Other way around for me, I do nofap when I'm depressed and anxious (3+ weeks currently).
You've spent God knows how long smashing the dopamine button on your brain over and over and over again as soon as the high tapers off. It's the same thing with fatties and eating, and how they b***h and moan and feel awful while trying to diet: you've conditioned yourself to indulging as soon as your brain starts giving you hunger cues, and now your brain is throwing a fit. Nofap is like dieting for your dick.
Will my mood improve on its own as time passes? I've never done nofap for longer than 3 weeks
Yes, it will, same with every other withdrawal sympton of other drugs
Yes. It becomes cleaner and strong. You're still gonna have shitty days but it's more of a challenging thing to do over a "PROBLEM".
Youll workout more or read books. Games become really gay. Women become less alluring and you stop caring about random thots. You start to see the quality of some these "hot girls".
Hot prostitutes are jumping the caste system primarily through the power s8mhjgof social media.
One of the hottest prostitutes I know runs fricking games off of dudes but she is legit such a fricking evil b***h its not funny.
Think about it this way. Mens toxic trait would be anger and killing everything thats in the way. Diplomacy is hard and all that.
Women's violence is seduction. They cause men's minds to wander. The average woman has so much access to psychological understanding and exist in such a pro bawd society that that are absolute monsters.
Yoga pants, booty shorts, belly exposure etc. All very immodest but you seen fricking mothers of six wearing this shit.
>the don't touch your penis movement was reddit all along
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Yes, when you stop reaching for your dick when you get sad, you're able to see the bigger picture and prioritize better goals. At least for me
Day 52. For me, the highs are higher and the lows are lower but more mellow. I like it. Helps my poetic spirit flourish.
Seeing guys on insanely long streaks (like at a year plus) either not changing much or looking depressed made me give up on it. I figured if not much will change I don't want to stress myself out pretending I don't have a sex drive. I know on nofap you can still technically have sex, even though it's usually mixed up with semen retention, but you can't really rely on women for sex either unless you're basically really lucky looks wise or in the type of woman you find. I've seen how women withhold sex or make themselves ugly so you won't even want to frick them anymore and it's just not worth dealing with either for what should be a ridiculously simple act. That's without mentioning the diseases. I won't say porn is healthy but the way things are set up now it's like a no win situation.
Well that was demoralizing, thanks rabbi
>rabbi
That was predictable but it doesn't change how things are.
But that's the problem your life gets better from actually improving yourself through other actions and decisions or having access to things that otherwise improve your health, not holding in semen. We're designed to release semen regularly, with a woman not to porn but again women aren't reliable for that anymore. That's why guys can accomplish so much even without holding it in and guys holding it in will look miserable or unchanged.
>women aren't reliable
Guys want to improve themselves to get a reliable source for pumping their semen. Jerking off into oblivion stops you from doing that and is no different than guys holding it in for over a year with no real sex
Working hard and improving yourself doesn't get you access to reliable pussy because the women aren't held to basic standards or told to meaningfully improve themselves anymore so they don't reciprocate like they should. You can jerk off and still get shit done for example exercising or not drinking. It's not complicated shit but counting on women for fairness or reliability has been shown so many times not to work.
There is a clear difference between when I take care of everything else in my life AND do semen retention, vs. when I just take care of everything else. In the former case, I feel much more energetic, focused, poised, and confident. And there are literally hundreds of similar stories on 4chins if you just look. You're wasting your life force every time you ejaculate without the intention of conceiving a child.
Nofap isn't a miracle cure. If you aren't simultaneously taking care of your body and mind and fixing problems in your life, you won't see benefits. If your diet is shit, you don't meditate, you drink alcohol, or you engage in other soul-draining activities, you won't be able to build up the life force energy from semen retention. Your seed has the power to create new life. Of course wasting it is doing yourself a disservice and draining you; how could it not be? Giving up porn and masturbation is certainly a step in the right direction, but it isn't the entire path.
It's no NoFap, but it is not NoFrick.
So if you are not fricking you should at least be monk mode for some intellectual/religious/financial pursuit.
Otherwise damn right you should be depressed. The frick are doing ?
unironically this, the very first thing that happens when you stop numbing yourself with porn, medication, booze, etc is the realization that you gotta do something with your life, if you already have a goal you're gonna get some crazy focused motivation to see it trough, but if you do nothing all day you're just gonna be depressed, like a caged monkey in a zoo.
Ok so how do I develop a long term goal? A meaning for my life? I've tried meditation, talking to God, reading, etc but nothing comes up.
Day 27, my balls fricking ache and there's no positive changes so far. Starting to believe I got psyopped
The positive change will be when you go to frick a woman and it’s 1000x better then when you were a coomer
This. Also just fapping to imagination makes me cum buckets again. Purely visual stimulation makes u forget that visual shit is only part of the deal
I used to JO to my imagination as a teenager of other girls I liked. It actually made me feel like an introvert pervert. Nofap and noporn is the only path to glory.
I looked in the mirror while doing preacher curls and thought of this meme because I looked ugly af
Bros, last night I had a wet dream and woke up with jizz in my boxers.
Should I reset the streak? I was 13 days in
Absolutely not. Wet dreams are natural and you'll have them again. Don't feel guilty about it it's ridiculous.
Absolutely yes. Dreams are an extension of your thoughts which means you been entertaining lustful thoughts negating the full benefits.
Wet dreams are a sign of you returning to normal after years of chronic masturbation. When I started doing NoFap I started getting morning wood and wet dreams again after a month.
Bros I just looked at r*ddit and they're recommending 90 days nofap to fix porn addiction. Wtf that seems insane. I was only planning to do 30 days.
t. 25 days
Noporn will fix your porn addiction, not nofap. Read the easy peasy way
I've tried that before. My problem with noporn only is that I always have difficulty fapping to imagination, which leads me right back to porn. And The Easy Peasy Way is cringe, it's just the same shit being repeated over and over again, and it's not even original, someone just did "find and replace" with a smoking cessation book.
I get way more turned on imagining vanilla shit like kissing then I do when I binge on porn. I can feel how obliterated my attention span is because I get like 10-15 seconds of arousal out of a picture before I have to move onto the next one.
.
Nofap and lifting makes me feel good about myself.
Simple as.
I dunno if full-on Nofap is the way to go. Much like anything, just don't do it to excess. Don't jack off six times a day. Like once a week or two max.
Unrelated, but it reminds me of my mom's doctor's husband. He's from South Africa and legit used to be a child soldier. He said the handlers would go in the tents and make sure no one was spanking it before a battle so they's be extra pent up before a battle.
>Unrelated, but it reminds me of my mom's doctor's husband. He's from South Africa and legit used to be a child soldier. He said the handlers would go in the tents and make sure no one was spanking it before a battle so they's be extra pent up before a battle.
Unrelated? Absolutely related. "Once or twice a week" will still make you a weakling compared to zero.
Nofap exists to help push you towards getting a GF. Also to stop watching porn, this is the main point of nofap. Masturbation doesn't hurt you in any form; however porn does, porn is the root problem for everything plaguing young men today.
If you're feeling horny go for it and bust a nut, USE YOUR IMAGINATION. DON'T USE PORN.
Stop putting a psychological jail around everything you do.
Half the reason nofap even became a movement because incels were death grippin' their john, while getting overstimulated with porn. When given the opportunity to get some pussy they weren't able finish or get it up.
The quality level of sleep I get from either after having sex with release or just masturbation is insane, I feel recharged up and all the irritability I usually feel from abstaining goes away.
Masturbation is harmful in that it releases the stress hormone which makes you more anxious for the next couple days. People can debate whether it's natural or not, but it is not optimal.
How has anybody mentioned this yet? Masturbation releases cortisol
Cumming inside your wife/gf is what you should be aiming to. Masturbation is for domesticated CATTLE. Reminder that chimps only jerk off in captivity
Do you really think men doing nofap will find a gf to cum inside into? homie I'm doing nofap so that I can avoid mental breakdowns, I ain't getting a woman in this lifetime
Does this not look like captivity to you?
Go ahead take a nap. Stretch out. Walk around.
If only these boxes were tighter and had wheels and were steered by our eye movements with near instant death at a moment's distraction, THEN WE WOULD BE FREE
Are we there yet?
you guys are crazy, i fap a minimum of 2 times per day. I already fapped today, and then i saw this thread which lead me to jerk off and cum twice back to back just to beat my refractory period into submission.
thanks for the motivation, keep it up nerds, youll all make it (lol)
>I'm an addicted coomer
That's not something to be proud of, kiddo
I am so glad I finally made it to work! Ah I can't wait for today to be over! Maybe we will garner more traffic today and stay in business! Remember to work extra hard today, everybody! Our sales depend on your hard work and can do attitude!
Imagine unironically believing no-fap
Works on my computer
Can we make it to the mall?
I could really go for a juicy burger. I hope I don't see any filthy Indians there.
homosexuals on IST will do literally anything but get a job application or talk to women
Mate you doing nofap ain't the cause of your problems
It's the little b***h you see every time you look in a mirror
Consider manning the frick up for once in your life instead of whining about your moronic israelite-op not working or w/e the frick you're flapping about
Why do you morons spout this shit? Getting a job will hangers nothing and there's no point in speaking to women or even socialising if you're ugly in current year
Not him but getting a job gets some kind of income that you can spend on hobbies (like learning a musical instrument or something that needs money investment). Talking to women is completely pointless though, their standards are too high, and romance shouldn't be work. Effort should be spent only on something you can change.
Im 2 years in,
If youre a heavy user the valley takes a few months to get out of. Give yourself time and approach yourself with kindness.
If anyone has questions i can answer to the best of my ability
What’s a good community for this? I don’t want to use sneedit and ideally not discord either but I’ll tolerate discord
Honestly most communities are filled with man children who like tate, or religious nutcases. You gotta pick which one you wanna put up with. The religious ones are better imo. I stopped engaging in a community for it after like 3 months because it was fricking stupid.
If I don't nut after like 3 days I get anxiety. Soon as I bust it vanishes
That anxiety is what addicts feel when they stop doing the thing they're addicted to. You make a mistake by keeping it alive. It's supposed to feel bad for a while.
I'm about a month in and no sex since July and I've never really been this on edge in my life.
Lifting feels like it makes it worse, especially the next day when I can feel all that test flowing...
Test flowing is good, spend it on useful activities
There’s no point in lifting if you aren’t minimum 7/10 face and 6ft tall
There is always point to lifting, there is no point in talking to women if you're not minimum whatever
What does face and height have to do with wanting to be strong?
If you’re manlet most untrained fatties could kill you and if you’re below 6/10 face you will be rejected even if you do lift
The only reason to lift is to dominate other men or to frick women
Does anyone feel that they have unrealistic standards in women due to porn? I'm a volcel for 10 years now because I reject every 5/10 and below. I'm trying nofap and I'm curious if I'll find a change in attraction to women who I used to reject. I'm currently 26 days in and I'm not sure if much has changed. I think I'd frick a chubby chick though, and I'm currently really regretting some otherwise cute ones that I rejected recently. But I'm also worried that I'd feel a very deep sense of shame afterward if I did frick a chubby girl.
women nowadays just aren’t worth chasing. maybe the life of celibacy is the only way for people like us
I had unrealistic standards for women even before I watched porn
Women under 7.5/10 are invisible to me
As they should be
Anything beyond 7 days is a scam and it's been proven a scam
Anyone saying something else is trying to rope you into some bigger scam like their weird community or religion
If you can nut once every week it will optimize your test and keep down your prolactin
This, seems like the most sensible approach. I am trying it myself to very promising results. Better focus and energy throughout the day aswell as having a stronger desire to and performing better when lifting. even if it's mostly placebo it feels good man.