>nooooo you can't eat raw meat because the bacteria will kill you but it's fine to eat steak tartare though!
How the did it become the standard human belief that eating raw meat is dangerous? It makes literally zero sense that there is exactly one animal species on the planet that for some reason has to heat up meat by making an artificial chemical reaction (fire) or the meat will be dangerous to them.
its much safer to eat cooked. if there are parasites or something else harmful, cooking kills them.
rawtards think parasites are good for you
nice momscience
>t.drooling moron
Just eat lots of raw pork then fricking Black person. You won’t get trichinosis of the heart or lungworm in your brain you’ll be totally fine.
Everyone is talking about beef of course you dummy.
>pork
haram
Why are you likes this? This is one of the easiest times in history for voluntary eugenics and now you have to act smart? Why would you actually want these "people" to continue living?
based and natural selection pilled. But I wish COVID killed more.
>Meat gets exposed to bacteria from the digestive system during the butchery process
>Ingesting this bacteria makes your sick
>Cooking meat kills bacteria
How is this so hard for the autistic mind to understand?
But somehow it's safe to eat sushi and steak tartare..
It's literally not though. There are less bacteria in those than other forms of raw meat though, which you could probably work out yourself if you gave it thirty seconds thought instead of being a moron
This. Beef doesn't contain any salmonella, unless the meat was in contact with insides of intestines. That's why companies that prepare tartar are held to high sanitary standards. On top of tgat, they add a shit ton of garlic that works as an antibiotic for bad bacteria.
And for eggs, you can eat raw quail eggsm they never have any salmonella. Chicken eggs are all paturized in europe and the usa, so they are safe. But cooked ones have a higher nutritional value.
Sushi comes from farms, the fish live in a VERY controlled enviromen, sushi originating from sea fish would be SWARMING with parasites
Maybe in thirld world countries like the US.
In developed countries it completely normal to eat raw eggs, store eggs in room temperature, make your own sushi from raw fish you buy at the supermarket or make tartare yourself from the meat you bought off the shelf.
Yeah I'd be up for eating tons of stuff raw, but as a burger I don't trust the food here.
>make your own sushi from raw fish
Do you think you are getting wild caught fish at the supermarket bro?
Not to mention most sushi is just rice and vegetables and the fish that are used needs to be frozen at extremely low temperatures for days in order to kill any parasites. People do in fact get tapeworms from eating sashimi.
Most persons don't know it gets flash frozen to avoid freezer burn
Tapeworms are gopd for cutting tho.
>Sushi comes from farms
This is actually the opposite. Fish farms are disgusting cesspools of deformed fish crawling with pesticides.
Parasites are killed in sushi when the fish are flash frozen after being caught.
>Sushi comes from farms, the fish live in a VERY controlled enviromen, sushi originating from sea fish would be SWARMING with parasites
my god you are so clueless holy shit
please kys before you get someone else hurt
Worm hands typed this post.
Pale soft hands that have never touched farmland typed this post.
not the case
Japs had a lot of brainworms because they used fresh fish.
Nowadays everyone everywhere uses deep frozen fish (it's been caught, gutted, cleaned a little bit and thrown in a freezer that gets it below 0 gedrees F in couple of hours right there on the ship). Deep freezing also kills all bacteria and parasites, so you can eat it raw after it thawed.
And farm fish is usually shit, because for economic purposes it's fed goyfeed and hormones.
Pretty much the only form of sushi that is legally sold nowadays is flash frozen beforehand, even the highest grade stuff that you find at the most exclusive Michelin star sushi restaurants in the world.
Guess what freezing does to the types of parasites that inhabit fish used in sushi, you dumb gorilla Black person?
My dude I went to the morning market in Japan, where you can pick the fish/crab while it's still being held alive in one of those giant tubs with a bubbler, they chop it up right there and you can eat it. Flash-frozen bullshit is for trailer parks
You’re an absolute moron. Parasites are not an issue with smaller fish. Large fish all have parasites and they are all flash frozen before you eat them
And those that aren’t, you can see the worms. I’ve broken down halibut that had live hook worms in it, it was gnarly. Also black cod that was being smoked had pin worms and when I checked the smoked fish the worms had all crawled out and up onto the surface of each piece. It was super gross.
But those are a couple instances out of thousands of fish I’ve personally broken down. Big salmon, halibut, rockfish, sturgeon, albacore, monkfish, blue/yellowfin tuna, hamachi, grouper, red snapper, black cod, ling cod, idk I’m probably forgetting some. As far as I know hamachi is the only fish that’s farmed that I’ve worked with
How much did you pay, what time did you go? Were you literally at the place where the fish are laid out or a nearby restaurant?
Sushi has to be frozen before consumption to kill parasites. People used to get sick from raw fish all the time
This!
Eating raw meat is dangerous and only works in axis countries where butchers actually take pride in their jobs.
because it's true moron? many of our ancestors did eat raw meat, but that doesn't mean it was healthier, they died from the bacteria frequently. the discovery of the benefits of cooking meat was fundamental for humanity
>they died from the bacteria frequently
This literally never happened in the history of humanity, ever. Please feel free to prove me wrong by providing some evidence.
What's my evidence? Oh, just basic logic like "no animal that eats raw meat ever dies of bacterial food poisoning in the wild ever." Bears, lions, dogs, cats, etc.
inb4 something moronic about "bacterial parasites"
Frick that looks delicious, my ex-gf used to make me steak tartare, only thing I miss about her lol
steak tartare rules
obviously you can get sick from eating any raw meat, it’s just the probability is usually pretty slim especially with something like raw beef or raw eggs but you are still taking a chance with it. Love me raw eggs
Cooking increases the nutritional value of food, that's why we were brainlets before creating fire, and brainlets before we discovered agriculture.
How when cooking makes it less nutritious and difficult to digest?
And agriculture for sure made our brains shrink. We've been degenerating since then.
>How when cooking makes it less nutritious and difficult to digest
This is the exact opposite of the truth. Cooked food is easier to digest and we absorb more nutrients from it than from raw meat because of that.
>Cooked food is easier to digest
What parts specifically are "easier to digest?"
>we absorb more nutrients
What nutrients specifically are more easily absorbed? Lots of vitamins are obviously heat-labile and destroyed by cooking.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0889157505001067
>The most labile vitamins during culinary processes are retinol (vegetable boiling, 33% retention), vitamin C (the most damaging factors are cooking and oxidation), folate (leaching into the cooking water, 40% retention), and thiamin (cooking, retention 20–80%).
EATING meat is what helped our brains evolve, not cooking it. We were raw vegans back when we were borderline monkeys. When we started eating meat was when we started to become bigbrain.
>Eating raw meat helped us evolve
>We were all raw vegans
Glad to know your brain didn't evolve.
We WERE raw vegans way back then dipshit.
>We WERE raw vegans way back then dipshit.
No we weren't. There is no real evidence that "humans" were ever anything except humans. Your theory that vegan animals randomly had a bunch of mutations and then started eating meat and became an entirely different animal is preposterous.
>but but it's in all the middle-school science textbooks!
What a moron.
>believing in Darwinian evolution
Cringe. No speciation has ever been witnessed by humans and there are literally zero good explanations for how sexual characteristics evolved from clonal bacteria.
We've been breeding dogs for thousands of years and a chihuahua is still the exact same species as a wolf.
sorry to burst your bubble but monkeys eat the occasional meat as well
People ITT are so moronic. Stuff like sushi and tartare is safer to eat because the meat is sliced thinly towards the center of the meat to where most parasites would be cut out and most bad bacteria on the outside would be as well.
food just taste better cooked
You can eat anything raw from the store as long as you dont have the gut bacteria of a 3 year old. I sometimes sneak a couple pieces of chicken before i bbq if ive been marinating it all day and i get hungry. Done the same with fish. Tartare. Raw eggs daily. Not my fault youre sterile. Not my fault youre a fricking pussy. Touch grass + eat it + cry to reddit because it makes your tummy hurt you utter manchild
t. worm parasite
you cant get any parasites from commercial meat, there are only some very rare documented cases from wild meat.
only risk is getting food poisoning from bacteria. dont eat spoiled meat.
think about it, if it was actually possible to get parasites from commercial undercooked meat it would be an extremely common occurrence considering meat consumption.
Almost everyone over cooks their meat, moron.
Food poisoning is extremely common
you can get it from ground beef chicken and pork
but it will be your fault according with the terms in the package lol
>wants to eat raw meat
>lol u fricking pleb who cares about taste
>seasonings? NGMI
Salt it. Preserves if and tastes good
>IT'S
>FRICKING
>RAW
E.coli is found on the OUTSIDE of meat. When you sear a steak, any potential e.coli is killed off.
With ground beef, the outside of the steak and the inside becomes mixed. And the meat is usually from several animals instead of just one which increases the likelihood of e.coli. Meaning that you have to cook it thoroughly.
Simple as
THIS
for some reason i thought that was a snake at first and was disgusted but the little arms make it cute
ground meat golem!
So...i can just trim the outside of the stake, put that aside, and eat the meat raw?
taenia solium and taenia saginata
, found in pork and beef.
Saginata are typically associated with tartare, kababs and rare steaks. So they are not 'fine' just because chances are lower.
>just because chances are lower
The chances are vanishingly small. You sound like one of those gays who worries about getting prion disease from eating brains.
Because it tastes gross when it's rotten, so it's charred to kill the Rot. Same with spices. Covers up gross meat. Hunting is hard so u gotta preserve it. Salt. Domesticated animals. I'm typing like a moron rn but it's all true. I've gotten salmonella twice from chicken liver from local farms. Never from the hundreds of raw eggs. 6 last night
>Same with spices. Covers up gross meat.
do wypipo rly??
IST flexing its shoe size IQ like usual.
First off, bacteria and parasites are different risks. The bacterial growth we worry about occurs under certain conditions after the animal has been killed while parasites infect it while it's alive.
Both raw beef and raw fish (the two OP seems fixated on) can have bacterial growth when handled improperly. In the case of beef, contamination from E. Coli can come from the butchery process when fluids from the digestive tract come into contact with the meat. Cooking the exterior of the meat kills E. Coli that has contaminated the surface of the beef, which is why you can eat a steak that is raw in the middle with little or no consequences. In fish, improper handling can cause scombroid poisoning, which is not destroyed by cooking.
Uncooked fish that has been handled properly generally does not carry a large bacterial risk. However, raw fish commonly does contain parasitic nematodes such as Anisakis. OP, having a very generous IQ of 12, is under the impression that this doesn't happen. However, while most developed countries have hardly any reported cases of Anisakiasis, Japan reports upwards of 1000 cases annually depending on the year. Many people don't even know they are consuming the parasite and don't report their illness.
The key is risk mitigation. With proper handling and selection of fish, the risk of Anisakis from sushi is relatively low. Similarly, making steak tartare from a clean piece of quality steak you chop yourself is much less likely to make you sick compared to eating industrially produced ground beef straight from the grinder.
tldr
>cooking and proper handling of food reduces or eliminates the risk of illness
>while not mandatory, cooking has had positive impacts on public health and humans are usually much less parasite/disease ridden than animals without access to cooking
ate raw calf liver and cooked calf liver a week ago, the raw liver tasted almost like a fruit, so good, the cooked liver tasted like a shoe sole lol, anyway I eat cooked and raw meat depends on the meat and circumstances and what I want at the moment, people's disgust or fear from raw meat is moronic and irrational to me
i have gotten worms 2 seperate times from eating raw meat. yet i still eat it cause it's too fricking good.
Just eat your raw meat and get parasites. Nobody cares.
Name 1 person in the world who got parasites from eating steak tartare. Go ahead, I'll wait.
Your mom.
Pathetic.
Yes you are.
If the meat is good quality, then go for it. If you like in ZOGSLOP country, aka the USA, you will probably catch SUPER AIDS.
We have a stomach acid ph on par with vultures
Jesus christ that's literally just flavored corn syrup.
It's pasteurized so it's healthy.
even though our stomach could kill most of them unfortunately we spread the strong parasites all over the world
I think that's only following a fast, right?
It's not fine to eat steak tartare
It's just Americans.
Americans can't eat raw beef from their stores safely. Between the FDA regulations and the competency crisis (most industrial butchers are not White), it's not safe to eat raw beef in the USA.
For us in first world countries it's perfectly fine. I've eaten raw beef most days for a decade now (I don't like the greasy feeling when it's cooked), my family has been eating tartare during the summer every ear for generations and no one ever caught ecoli or salmonella or whatever other American disease.
In short, raw meat is perfectly healthy and safe if it was well prepared.
>source: i am gay and moronic
Steak tartare is normally prepared under strict guidelines to minimize the chance of contamination including but not limited to grinding the meat fresh to order, controlling the temperature of the preparation surface, and cooking the surface of the tartare with a torch, then trimming the cooked layer off. Even then, the chances of getting sick is only minimized.
>cooking the surface of the tartare with a torch
What the frick are you talking about.
In what kind of third world country do you live in that they cook beef tartare?
You do know that in civilized countries you can eat ground beef out of their packages, right?
>cooking tartare
>cooking anything just to cut off the cooked part like that makes any amount of sense
>implying tartare is still dangerous but can't provide 1 case of someone getting sick from it
Imagine thinking "use fresh beef without any parasites" is "strict guidelines." This post brought to you by a 3rd world country.
The heat of the egg cooks the meat
The egg is raw too.
Don't tell it to the Americans, they think it's deadly to eat raw eggs.
there are quite a few species on Earth that cannot eat raw meat that is several days old.
You can do whatever you want to anon. Go ahead, have that raw steak, hell, eat that raw pork and chicken too!
go away, boomer
homie I’m 21
Pork hasn’t been an issue for years. Chicken just isn’t good raw but I still only cook it to 145-150 tops
I eat raw beef sometimes
there, I said it
Most people in Europe do. It's perfectly fine.
you can't eat raw meat because the bacteria will kill you but it's fine to eat steak tartare though!
correct.
Natty liftas eat raw meat and sun thier balls for health but shame a lifta who runs a couple T cycles
>imagine believe anything with Darwin's name attached to it. freemason, eugenicist, and from a family that practiced selective breeding
might as well cite any other gun for hire just because the state and MSM approve it
What is wrong with selective breeding? Do you mean of farm animals?
no his family only bred with one other specific family.
When we started buying meat from mass slaughterhouses that unceremoniously spray carcasses with mini firehoses to clean them.
because of how fricked the United States Livestock industry is the animals that are treated like shit are almost all infested with parasites well before they're butchered
I come from the country that eats the most raw meat per capita and no one I know ever had any parasites or food poisoning from raw beef. I guess you're living in burgerland and tbf I also wouldn't trust your raw meat
>How the did it become the standard human belief that eating raw meat is dangerous?
most ppl don't have access to local butchers and have to buy meat from supermarkets
supply chains can't guarantee meat doesn't have germs on it
>How the did it become the standard human belief that eating raw meat is dangerous?
look at the vaccinations rates worldwide and you will understand why
>be me
>try to eat raw meat one time
>wake up at 1am with terrible headache
>shit and vomit till dawn
thanks broscience
What raw meat did you eat? I bet it was something stupid.
a barely cooked steak
Yeah you probably didn't cook the outside enough and everyone ITT knows you shouldn't eat raw meat from American grocery stores.
Unfortunately I'm European
humans have a very hard time getting enough food to sustain their stupidly energy hungry brains without cooking food to make it easier to digest.
It would make perfect sense for humans to eventually evolve to depend on cooked food entirely, but I dont think eating certain meats raw is harmful in and of itself. Parasites do pose a potential threat from doing that though.
Personally, I will eat cooked meat because I enjoy the taste.
Most people buy their meat in the same shop they buy washing detergents. That's why it's not recommended to eat raw meat. If you have a good butcher tho you can eat most things raw.
that looks so nasty
>Raw meat
):<
>Raw meat, Japan
O:
Animals have immune systems. Baring the rare parasite, the inside of healthy, living animal tissue will be mostly disease free. This means in nature, if you kill an animal and eat it before the meat has time to fester, you'll be fine. The meat you buy in a supermarket, no matter how well it was frozen or preserved, will have SUBSTANTIALLY more bacteria than any fresh killed meat. You have an immune system, and will probably be fine, but there's no real reason to risk hit. Rare meat tastes the same as raw and it already a a lot safer, as most bacteria are on the surface of meat anyways.