Yeah, you're right anon.
Here is a study where rats were fed concentrated potato protein. The potato-proteinase inhibitor concentration (PPIC) group had an 11.6% lower weight gain compared to a control group!
Let's look at the numbers.
The rats were fed PPIC at doses 100mg / 1kg bodyweight. A rule of thumb is to divide a rat dose by 6.2 to get a human dose. So a 75kg man would require around 16mg / 1 kg of PPIC to expect similar effects on weight gain. 16*75 = 1200mg
1 gram of potato yielded around 0.25mg of PPIC. So to get a 1200mg dose for a 75kg man, you would require [grams of potato] = [1200/0.25]
1200/0.25 = 4800
4800grams or 4.8kg of potatoes, every day.
Yeah, I don't think you have to worry about protease inhibitors in your tubers, anon. They have evolved in plants in response to infection by fungi and browsing by insects. They do not exist in concentrations large enough to have noticeable effects on humans.
kek
but all this means is that you'd need to increase the calculated dose for a human a little bit beyond the 1200mg one that I calculated. So you're looking at maybe 5.5kg of potatoes daily.
Quantifying the effects of protease inhibitors on body growth and calculating the dosage you would need to have a similar effect on humans is not irrelevant, anon. What is irrelevant is just saying "but what about protease inhibitors bro" without any regard to dose. Alcohol will fuck you up, but taking 1 sip of light beer isn't going to have any measurable effect on your metabolism. The dose makes the poison.
Outside of tubers and seeds, there are simply not any significant dietary sources of protease inhibitors. I didn't even go into how COOKING destroys the majority of these inhibitors, as they are PROTEINS themselves, and cooking denatures them.
You're measuring specifically in just tubers, comparing animal trial results to humans without true testing, and testing for weight and not protein absorption. We know tubers make people fat, that's not relevant. Protein is used for more than weight.
To go on to say that protease inhibitors are a non-issue for protein absorption going on just that data is cringe.
You're trying too hard, maybe Reddit is closer to your speed?
I'm making the best inferences I can with available data. Tubers don't make people fat, that's a typically simplistic carnivore/keto talking point that ignores total caloric intake, macronutrient profile and activity levels.
The burden of proof is on you to demonstrate that protease inhibitors, at levels typically encountered in the diet, have demonstrable effects.
The fact is that even when amplified in concentration thousands of times, their effects are slight, and not universally deleterious - The PPIC rats in the present study had lower food intake (which explains their reduced weight gain, rather than some protein malabsorption), delayed gastric emptying, lower plasma insulin whilst serum glucose remained unchanged, demonstrating lower insulin resistance than the control-group rats.
Just imagine there are people out there who willingly put vegetation into the inner tubes of their body. It boggles the mind how they could do such a thing to themselves. The body reacts to the noxious insult by bloating, gas and shitting several times a day a fibrous inedible material rejected out the anal sphincter.
>go carnivore for the memes >day 4 >feel hot pinch in my ass, im afraid >eaten 600g of ribeye every day >poop out the ribey >"poop is small, where the fuck is the rest of it???" >suddenly, uriel septim vii is murdered >the doors of oblivion opens >"AHHHH IM VOILATING THE LAW AHHHH"
The people who obsess over protein types and amounts always lift and look like shit. At best, they're average looking or average strength but never excel at anything. I quit tracking any of this shit years ago and am miles ahead in strength and physique than the dudes that nerd out over every macro and micro.
this, literally just eat, sleep and lift, it's not that hard just avoid goyslop
wanna lose weight? remove a meal, wanna gain? add one
how do you retards mess it up?
>the fucking amino acid bullshit from an obese ketolard
You don't need 30g of metabolic suppressive tryptophan and methionine. When they restrict it in adult rats they lose all their fat. Fucking fake experts online goddamn. Eat a varied diet.
Who fucking cares?
Seriously?
I eat so much protein I don't even think about my protein intake
>Protein fromeat is utilized by the body better than plant protein.
>Source: uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh i dunno
fuck off
source is literally in the OP bro
fuck off
>source is a Youtube video narrated by a "content creator" with an effeminate voice
you found it. good job brosef
You sound like a woman.
You sound like you smelled in middle school.
you sound like a virgin
No, the source is his representation of studies he references to throughout the paper like any reputable article.
vegans dilate and die early
hey op ive got a hot tip for you. my cum is s tier protein. feel free to help yourself.
>liver, meat, dairy, fruit
it's that easy, through in some sweet potatoes if you want to carb up more
While true, vegans simply have to eat moar BROtein to compensate
Now factor in plants carrying protease inhibitors, which block protein processing and some plants can be "negative" protein
>negative protein
tfw when you eat plant foods and your muscles literally start leaving your body as a result
>Now factor in plants carrying protease inhibitors
Literally just don't eat raw seeds/tubers and this is a non-issue.
I thought peat said tubers were good, like carrots
They are good. Just don't eat 5 kilograms of raw tubers daily.
Yeah, you're right anon.
Here is a study where rats were fed concentrated potato protein. The potato-proteinase inhibitor concentration (PPIC) group had an 11.6% lower weight gain compared to a control group!
Let's look at the numbers.
The rats were fed PPIC at doses 100mg / 1kg bodyweight. A rule of thumb is to divide a rat dose by 6.2 to get a human dose. So a 75kg man would require around 16mg / 1 kg of PPIC to expect similar effects on weight gain. 16*75 = 1200mg
1 gram of potato yielded around 0.25mg of PPIC. So to get a 1200mg dose for a 75kg man, you would require [grams of potato] = [1200/0.25]
1200/0.25 = 4800
4800grams or 4.8kg of potatoes, every day.
Yeah, I don't think you have to worry about protease inhibitors in your tubers, anon. They have evolved in plants in response to infection by fungi and browsing by insects. They do not exist in concentrations large enough to have noticeable effects on humans.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3033477/
forgot my link
>human
>body reference weight - 60kg
kek
but all this means is that you'd need to increase the calculated dose for a human a little bit beyond the 1200mg one that I calculated. So you're looking at maybe 5.5kg of potatoes daily.
Extremely irrelevant and possibly retarded of you to mention, anon.
Quantifying the effects of protease inhibitors on body growth and calculating the dosage you would need to have a similar effect on humans is not irrelevant, anon. What is irrelevant is just saying "but what about protease inhibitors bro" without any regard to dose. Alcohol will fuck you up, but taking 1 sip of light beer isn't going to have any measurable effect on your metabolism. The dose makes the poison.
Outside of tubers and seeds, there are simply not any significant dietary sources of protease inhibitors. I didn't even go into how COOKING destroys the majority of these inhibitors, as they are PROTEINS themselves, and cooking denatures them.
You're measuring specifically in just tubers, comparing animal trial results to humans without true testing, and testing for weight and not protein absorption. We know tubers make people fat, that's not relevant. Protein is used for more than weight.
To go on to say that protease inhibitors are a non-issue for protein absorption going on just that data is cringe.
You're trying too hard, maybe Reddit is closer to your speed?
I'm making the best inferences I can with available data. Tubers don't make people fat, that's a typically simplistic carnivore/keto talking point that ignores total caloric intake, macronutrient profile and activity levels.
The burden of proof is on you to demonstrate that protease inhibitors, at levels typically encountered in the diet, have demonstrable effects.
The fact is that even when amplified in concentration thousands of times, their effects are slight, and not universally deleterious - The PPIC rats in the present study had lower food intake (which explains their reduced weight gain, rather than some protein malabsorption), delayed gastric emptying, lower plasma insulin whilst serum glucose remained unchanged, demonstrating lower insulin resistance than the control-group rats.
>tfw when proteIN becomes proteOUT
underrated
>anti prootiens hehe
Just imagine there are people out there who willingly put vegetation into the inner tubes of their body. It boggles the mind how they could do such a thing to themselves. The body reacts to the noxious insult by bloating, gas and shitting several times a day a fibrous inedible material rejected out the anal sphincter.
WIL is a hack
>go carnivore for the memes
>day 4
>feel hot pinch in my ass, im afraid
>eaten 600g of ribeye every day
>poop out the ribey
>"poop is small, where the fuck is the rest of it???"
>suddenly, uriel septim vii is murdered
>the doors of oblivion opens
>"AHHHH IM VOILATING THE LAW AHHHH"
ok
Huh
this video explains why the 3rd world is short, and why the garden gnomes want to remove animal protein from the 1st world
I just switched from chicken and rice to steak and potatoes. What am I in for bros?
The people who obsess over protein types and amounts always lift and look like shit. At best, they're average looking or average strength but never excel at anything. I quit tracking any of this shit years ago and am miles ahead in strength and physique than the dudes that nerd out over every macro and micro.
this, literally just eat, sleep and lift, it's not that hard just avoid goyslop
wanna lose weight? remove a meal, wanna gain? add one
how do you retards mess it up?
>the fucking amino acid bullshit from an obese ketolard
You don't need 30g of metabolic suppressive tryptophan and methionine. When they restrict it in adult rats they lose all their fat. Fucking fake experts online goddamn. Eat a varied diet.