now that i am physically and mentally ready to receive human relationships, i realize how bad porn has destroyed my vision on it at some point where n...

now that i am physically and mentally ready to receive human relationships, i realize how bad porn has destroyed my vision on it at some point where now i don't even find it interesting anymore.

i had painted for longing years a perfect image on my mind, excluding flaws and perfecting every detail, turning it SUPRAhuman and inconceivable on physical matter.

when i start to think about making a move against the girl, i get strucked by a feeling of highschool, something infantile and annoying, like learning how to walk again. i look at them and perceive their acceptable naturally human flaws or individualities and don't want to accept them because i never conceived it in my dreams.

and soon they are out of my vision they become perfect and unreachable again, and i get back to thinking about how i should make a move.

someone can relate to this dystopia?

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    yes. it is because deep down you do not want to lie to yourself.

    the body desires lust you dont. you desire emotions.

    fuck coomers

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      i want tk get emotionally attached bro i just don't know how since i spend so much time perfecting the way i want it to happen.

      think about you spend your whole life thinking you should lift weights with your mind force but now you get to the gym and need to lift them with muscles.

      quit porn dumbass

      already done. mind going back to normal but now i need to throw the remained trash away.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        there's no cure to this. everyone idealizes girls in their minds, then we get a gf and reality comes knocking us down. you can't just idealize girls constantly because then you're just a simp, and you can't think of them as walking poop bags constantly because then you'll never associate with them. the truth is somewhere in the middle. it's better to not think about it at all and just let your instincts decide when you're attracted to them and when they gross you out. that way you strike a healthy balance

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          right now eventually accepting this. i'm out from lust for a month or so and have been looking to feminine faces and identifying them as just human, gradually breaking the frontiers between how i treat other men comparing to women. that's probably part of the problem, cause i don't want intimacy with men nor friendship at all, i'm seeing the same applying to women on the other hand. it scares me though.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I'm the same but I don't think I idiolize girls, I see them as they are but yet I'm frightened because I was always an incel, I lost hope

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Yes sometimes it is better to think less which goes against the nature of intellectual types

          Humans are inherently irrational and people don't always act in ways that make sense or can be systemized and predicted like OP

          The intellectual type wants to use their brain to solve problems and make them easier, mental preparation and "working smart" makes things more efficient and easier to succeed at

          Woman are not machines though

          Sometimes it's just a sea of hormones and tension and you just gotta play things by ear

          Sometimes you just gotta sack up and go for it even if you might get rejected

          Gotta risk it sometimes bro if she turns you down then brush it off like nothing because you don't want to be with someone who don't want you back

          I believe in you bro try lifting some weights if you haven't already this will give you more self-confidence

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Good thread and good advice. Women are deeply flawed creatures but so are we. The truth is, they really are as silly and delicate and feminem as we are the opposite.

            And yet it works, and has worked for centuries before ~~*porn*~~ and the ~~*lgbt*~~ was invented

            You don't have dystopia. You have Copia

            You are scared of rejection, you are scared to fuck it up when hitting on them, you are scared to make the move because you don't have a lot of experience with it. You want to hide that from your self because you don't want to think of your self as scared of hitting on women. Instead of facing that about your self, you make up a different reason to believe in, which is "they are not perfect" "they are not good enough". You don't believe that truly, you pretend to believe it to shield your self from your own cowardice. Its okay, i been there done that, I've seen it a lot of times. Stop lying and stop coping. Put your self out there in those uncomfortable situations and it will improve over time. Its like public speaking, or doing something new for the first time.

            Also stop watching porn completely. Keep fapping but stop watching porn. You'll feel more attracted to women if you do. Good luck and go make it

            thanks for the feedback, now let me ask you,

            what makes you go out your confort zone and get in the face of rejection and other probabilities? that's what i was trying to mean with "perfecting a image". why even bother when it'll not be the way i imagined? i am stucked with a mental image like i was stucked on porn for years and i DO want to destroy and tear it, i am WILLING to do so, but i just can't seem to accept the unasthetic ways of the natural flow of things. WHY to put you under these conditions? you put yourself under physical regiment and diet to be strong and fit, but what makes you simply accept the way relationships are in real life overcoming the desillusional foundations porn gave you?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >what makes you go out your confort zone and get in the face of rejection and other probabilities?
              You don't have a choice. You'll get nothing if you don't get uncomfortable. If talking to women and flirting with them is uncomfortable then you have to do it despite being uncomfortable if you want a woman. First day of school was uncomfortable, first day in kindergarten, first you met someone you didn't know was uncomfortable. First football practice, first exam, your first public speaking. Its part of life. Either you are willing to face the discomfort and try or you don't try and end up with absolutely nothing. Its how life is.

              >that's what i was trying to mean with "perfecting a image". why even bother when it'll not be the way i imagined?
              Nothing in the world will be perfect. Nothing will pan out the way you imagined it. In fact his is one of the ways life is beautiful because you get a certain circumstances and that is what you have. Like think of it, everyone goes trough the life experiencing the same things, having friends, hanging with friends being on the football team, getting drunk the first time, making out the first time and all of that. But everyone ends up with a personal spin and quirkiness of it. It won't be perfect, and often its far from it, its lame, its dirty, its awkward, embarrassing, its subpar, its not good enough, its messy and all that. But that is the beauty of it, because its yours, your memories, your individual story. You didn't chose where you grew up, the neighborhood, the kids in the neighborhood you had to hang with. You just got a bunch of weirdo's and you had to make the best of it. Social media removes this layer of individuality, everyone tries to be perfect so they remove the messiness of their experience. In reality few get the ideal. My first time getting laid wasn't nice, my first kiss wasn't nice, my first time getting drunk was kind of fun but embarrassing, and so on.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                i guess it doesn't fit me, bro. guess i'll stay on the guts way of life. thank you, showed me a great different perspective

                let this thread die from now on

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >i am stucked with a mental image like i was stucked on porn for years and i DO want to destroy and tear it, i am WILLING to do so,

              >but i just can't seem to accept the unasthetic ways of the natural flow of things.
              Because you are scared of reality. You are making up reasons to not try and put your self out there. You are conjuring up elaborate complicated excuses. You are a fine alchemist or the strongest copium potions.

              >WHY to put you under these conditions?
              You don't have a choice. You either deal with reality or you hide behind your coped up excuses.

              >you put yourself under physical regiment and diet to be strong and fit, but what makes you simply accept the way relationships are in real life overcoming the desillusional foundations porn gave you?
              I can't relate. I understand that sex in real life is not the same as porn. I never got disillusioned by porn to begin with. And my real life experiences has been better than porn. I think a lot of people want to have porn-sex in real life because they been fooled in to believing its the best kind of sex. Like you are just dumb and got deceived and influenced by it. Its a cultural meme that got in to your mind and you think its good because you are young and dumb. You see it in porn and this is what everyone watches so this must be it right. This must be the peak of human sex. Or maybe that is just your style. I don't even know.

              i guess it doesn't fit me, bro. guess i'll stay on the guts way of life. thank you, showed me a great different perspective

              let this thread die from now on

              Cheers bro and stop coping. Stop hiding behind made up reasons for why you can't take part in life. You'll regret it.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >what makes you go out your confort zone and get in the face of rejection and other probabilities?
              literally just stop thinking about it. the moment you start thinking deeper than your instincts is when everything goes wrong. see a pretty girl and feel a tingle in your pants? go and say something to her. this is why the "dumb" jock type is successful with women. he's high test and doesn't think too much, he just does it. if he gets rejected he just brushes it off because he didn't put too much thought into this in the first place.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      i DESIRE TO FUCK SOME GOOD PUSSY THEN CUDDLE AND TELL HER SHE IS MINE BUT FIRST LET ME EAT THAT ASS AND LICK THAT PUSSY OOOOHHHH GOD

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    quit porn dumbass

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >i get strucked by a feeling of highschool
    Talk about it with someone real brah

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Porn creates the spectator paradigm making it so anything beyond watching intimacy seems unnatural

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Good thread and good advice. Women are deeply flawed creatures but so are we. The truth is, they really are as silly and delicate and feminem as we are the opposite.

    And yet it works, and has worked for centuries before ~~*porn*~~ and the ~~*lgbt*~~ was invented

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You don't have dystopia. You have Copia

    You are scared of rejection, you are scared to fuck it up when hitting on them, you are scared to make the move because you don't have a lot of experience with it. You want to hide that from your self because you don't want to think of your self as scared of hitting on women. Instead of facing that about your self, you make up a different reason to believe in, which is "they are not perfect" "they are not good enough". You don't believe that truly, you pretend to believe it to shield your self from your own cowardice. Its okay, i been there done that, I've seen it a lot of times. Stop lying and stop coping. Put your self out there in those uncomfortable situations and it will improve over time. Its like public speaking, or doing something new for the first time.

    Also stop watching porn completely. Keep fapping but stop watching porn. You'll feel more attracted to women if you do. Good luck and go make it

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >just be a shameless court jester bro and cold approach girls brooo
      >the first 500 rejections are just practice brooo
      Kek you pathetic pussy whipped retards are so desperate for pussy it's honestly pathetic.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I've been watching porn since I was 12 and after 2 decades, still watch it everyday. Still a khhv too, so maybe that has something to do with it

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It has nothing to do with porn, vast majority of men are afraid to hit on girls and there’s always a rationalization in the moment. You can get over it enough to not be completely paralyzed with time.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    im attractive and socially competent enough to get dates but still too much of a schizoid autist to manage actually being in a relationship
    what do

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