Ok fit, help me out here. I'm a slightly above-average height guy (5'8) and for most of my life, I didn't give it much thought. But recently, after starting my fitness journey, I've been racked by devastating insecurity over my height. Guys at the gym don't respect me, I can't lift as much as my friends, and basically I'm realizing how crappy my genes are with every visit to the gym. Women have noticed my insecurity and aren't giving me much attention either. Have any of you dealt with this and overcome it? Are leg and/or spine extension surgeries worth it?
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>But recently, after starting my fitness journey, I've been racked by devastating insecurity over my height.
Many such cases. Sad.
Have you considered transitioning? You'd be a fairly tall girl with a muscular frame.
I'm 5'8 and I've slept with over 130 girls in the past year and a half anon.
t. Live in Asia and speak the language
Sexpatting chomosexual found
Not old enough to be considered a sexpat (I'm 26) and I work full time for a Japanese company. I just sleep around a lot.
This kind of bullshit doesn't help me, butthole. Just because I'm not 6'4 doesn't mean I should have to settle for Asian prostitutes. There has to be some way for guys in the 50-75 percentile height range to get girls, what gives???
yeah, it involves being fit, having a real job and proper social skills that extend way beyond the woman you're initially flirting with. Historically people met through other people, now many of us have handicapped social lives and higher standards, all of which leads to an exclusion of a growing number of people. The difficult part is working on these aspects of your life even if you had an unfair start (which most people do in varying degrees) and knowing there's a chance it will lead to absolutely nothing
But I do have a good job and good social skills! I'm working out and down to 17% BF. Even then I'm fricking invisible to women and I'm tired of it
bro I don't know what to tell you, I only started getting real attention from girls once I stopped wearing my glasses constantly and started a part-time job at a bar. Young people especially in big cities have a fricked up perception and I can't really think of a single guy in that bar, no matter how hot, that would be constantly swamped or have absolute success. On the other hand I can give you plenty of examples of blonde hotties going after fricking 5'8'' arabs or shit like that, and telling me they let the guy frick them because they were horny and he had dark hair or whatever. In general my experience talking to an endless amount of women there is that their ideal guy needs to be skinny (not malnourished, just fit), have hair, be taller than them (not 6' or above, just taller than them), and not stink. Also they seem to absolutely despise indians. Yeah, it's roastie talk, but I've seen enough to know that in 80% of cases it's about the social occasion, that's where the ridiculous online dating standards fall off steeply.
>Also they seem to absolutely despise indians
audible kek
why? poor Indians
Indians are worse than Black folk. They stink, they can barely speak english, they have an ego and are competitive with everything, they cut in line, at least they back off when you confront them because they're all a bunch of pussies.
They also don't assimilate, once they show up, you'll notice indian restaurants and grocery stores start showing up everywhere, old mom and pop shops are sold to new owners and the employees are all replaced by Manpreets and Singh's. They infiltrate low wage jobs, get into management and only hire more of their own.
I'm fricking tired of hearing SAR and smelling BO anywhere I go. Frick Poo's
t.leaf
Dick too big
Do you happen to live in Canada?
nope, Deutschland, that's why there's so many arabs. The past few years there's been a serious influx of curries as well. It's the same shit everywhere in Europe and North America though, at least based on what I've heard from Americans and Canadians
At least make your larps believable, these are numbers even zyzz and 6’4 chads would struggle to reach moron
when there's a brothel practically built into the same building where you live, it's easy to go 130 times in a year.
How many times do you go to the gym a year?
>but there's no way 130 prostitutes work there
who's to say they're not all different ones? Looked different to me.
Why would I assume hookers kek? I thought you meant women, I’ve seen you post body idk why you need escorts. Anyway don’t wanna rip on you bc you’ve given me solid advice in CBT so whatever makes you happy anon, carry on
But that's the thing, from everything I can tell they are women. Some of them smoking hot even.
But that's beside the point, what really matters is our brotherly bond in fitness and I don't care if that's "cringe" to say or whatever.
So thank you, I will continue having sex with those female prostitutes, at your behest.
And if you were thinking that them being prostitutes ruins my point that being 5'8" can still be desirable to women, because in theory they'll frick anyone who pays... well, I hadn't thought about it that way, I guess.
Something to chew on the next time I'm pumping iron in the old gym.
Have a good day
>asia is one country with one language
Why do seppos think like this?
Only japan and sk matters all other Asians are worthless
stop being insecure moron
your life will get so much better when you have genuine confidence
just go outside lmao
there are lots of successful manlets with beautiful wives and gfs if you just leave your house once in a while
>I'm a slightly above-average height guy (5'8)
Lmfao is this actually how manlets see themselves?
Let me break it down for you, are you the tallest guy in the room? No? Then women see you as short.
>I'm a slightly above-average height guy (5'8)
they will never learn
Austrian ginger homosexual demoralization thread
All fields
>I'm a slightly above-average height guy
>5'8
OP is a homosexual. I wont elaborate.
>t. 5'7" chad
Upvoted
Just be confident bro. Like if you see a 10/10 Stacey out somewhere, just go up and talk to her. Like talk about something interesting like the weather or lifting or looksmaxing or pajeets or something. And watch, you'll leave with her number.
The single greatest booster to my confidence was getting good at MMA.
Everytime you're in a social setting with other men it makes you think like this:
>If somebody here tries anything funny/talks shit I'm fully confident I can beat the living frick out of them
Instead of this
>I better be careful to not piss that dude off I don't want any trouble. I've got this nice joke I want to say but maybe it'll offend that dude and he'll start something.
And before someone says "you'll go to jail" or "what if he has a knife". That's the neat part, you don't have to beat their ass, just the confidence + physique is alone to make them respect you enough to make their boundaries more relaxed.
The average man is way more likely to be pissed off at some random twink for making a joke than the confident muscular dude who looks like he knows what he's doing.
i'm 6'5, i drink both milk and alcohol in copious amounts and i like to wear boots
Just give up on fitness and try to become an artsy guy or something. Play the guitar, read philosophy, wear plaid vests and ivy prep type of clothes. Learn how to talk about nonsense to swoon women.
I'm 5'7 and have unironically gotten more shit for my race (black) than being short.
If you're white, quite whining OP.
I'm sorry to hear that you're feeling insecure about your height, especially as you've started your fitness journey. Height is just one aspect of who you are, and it's important to remember that there are many other qualities that make you unique and valuable as a person.
First and foremost, it's crucial to address the root of your insecurity and work on building self-confidence and self-acceptance. It's understandable to feel frustrated or discouraged, but comparing yourself to others or fixating on aspects of yourself that you can't change won't lead to happiness or fulfillment.
In the gym, focus on setting realistic goals for yourself and celebrating your progress, no matter how small. Strength and fitness are about personal improvement and perseverance, not about competing with others or conforming to societal standards.
As for surgeries like leg or spine extensions, it's important to approach them with caution and thoroughly research the potential risks and benefits. These procedures are typically considered cosmetic and come with significant risks and potential complications. They also often involve a long and painful recovery process.
Before considering any surgical intervention, I highly recommend seeking support from a mental health professional to work through your feelings of insecurity and explore healthier coping mechanisms. Building self-confidence and self-acceptance will have a much more lasting and meaningful impact on your overall well-being than any physical alteration.
Remember, you are much more than your height, and you deserve to feel confident and valued just as you are. If you need further support or guidance, don't hesitate to reach out to friends, family, or a therapist who can offer support and encouragement along your journey to self-acceptance.
God damn it, chatgpt, not again!
thanks gpt-kun
First, immediately stop scrolling here. Being tall helps, but it's insanely overrated online. They'll make you think you need to be 6'2" to be happy, when it wouldn't change much about your life. I know a 5'11" very good looking girl that couldn't stop saying how much she loved tall guys (like 6'7"+), and every man she ended up with was her height or less. She absolutely could have dated a 6'4"+ guy, but she went with good looking fit guys that were a few years older, were making good money and had high social status. At the end of the day, be funny, be fit, take care of your looks but don't try too hard, work out, work hard on your career and make an active effort in having friends and you'll be golden.
>above-average height guy (5'8)
>Implying anything under 175 cm isn't average
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/349023524/#349023524
>leg and/or
there's no 'and/or'. Leg only. Forget the other one even exists. Are you moronic? Do you really want someone to frick with your SPINE? Do you want to risk horribly crippling yourself because you had a problem with your FEELINGS? Jesus Christ I hope this is some kind of Big Medicine brainworm that gets you idiots thinking that surgery has no downsides except for money. At least then you're a victim of propaganda and not naturally thinking such things.
>leg ... extension surgeries worth it?
men who much shorter than you have appreciated it, but you're only one inch shorter than Hitler, it's ridiculous for you to seek surgery so that you can be slightly taller while still
>not being respected at the gym
>not being able to lift as much as your friends
>still having the same genes
>only finishing your healing years for now after not being able to lift all this time
You have a feeling problem. Fix your feelings. Read some books on Stoicism. Imagine you already got the spine extension, ended up a paraplegic in a freak accident because the surgeon fricking sneezed, and then were granted a wish to reverse time so that you could avoid that mistake. You're already living in a superior timeline. Be a smug regressor, knowing that all you have to do is lift and enjoy yourself.