>ok meditating
>meditating
>meditating
BOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRIIIIIIINNNGGGGGGG
do any of you gays actually just sit there and do nothing for an hour EVERY DAY
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>ok meditating. >meditating. >meditating
>ok meditating
>meditating
>meditating
BOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRIIIIIIINNNGGGGGGG
do any of you gays actually just sit there and do nothing for an hour EVERY DAY
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10 min meditation to build up focus
10 min building a memory palace
10 min mnemonic exercises (deck of cards memorization, long lists, poetry recitation)
but
Why
elaborate, i want this rare knowledge
Mnemonic exercises arent rare, they were a part of standard curriculum in antiquity before the printing press made extensive memorization unnecessary. These days people practice mnemonics mostly for fun just cause it feels nice to have well-ordered memory and sharp concentration
Elaborate more. My memory is dogshit
shit like making songs to remember stuff. It's highly effective. There are a bunch of methods people used called mnemonic devices to do this. There's actually some communities based around it and do memory trick competitions and stuff. It's on par with magicians or cup stacking or speed solving runic cubes etc except it's actually somewhat useful
"Moonwalking with Einstein"
People used to have to use their memories out of necessity, so eventually scholars developed techniques to aid the process, like placing elaborate and memorable stand-in representations for various letters or actors or verbs in order throughout a mental construction of an area well known to the memorizer - The loci method (memory palace)
This is were the term "In the first place... comes from.
Thanks, dudes. I'll look into it. Probably too late for my long term memories, but anything is better than nothing
all memory is fricked up your entire perception of past events is completely fricking skewed and everyone else who shares those memories either has a completely different idea of what happened or you've both warped your memories in the same direction over years. It's not a perfect record. It's not like a cd or some shit that can play back. Imagine a cd made of living cells which are constantly dying and moving around and communicating. There's a reason they take statements right away after a crime and won't count other shit. Your memory will be better if you train it but it's quite likely that your memory isn't as bad as you think it is. Likely no more terrible than others assuming you're not a stoner or something. You're just more aware of it and other people just convince themselves they're right all the time
Instantaneous recollection is different than forced repetitive memorization. There are guys that memorize the entire Talmud and can memorize pi to the 70,000th numeral.
Does it have to be in order or could they
>I'm so jealous of those that have 4khd rolodexes of their life experiences
doesn't exist you're being grifted. It's simply impossible to compare subjective experiences. I could be described as any one of 1-5 depending on how you look at it
Tesla could literally create complex machines in his mind, make changes to one input or variable and see them play out at the other
the guy responsible for the 'taxi-cab- number' literally dreamed visual solutions and was an amateur mathematician
when some people tell me they can 3d model shit in their head and rotate it in 144fps 4k, I believe them, and I have been making some progress on this front
the images are clear and high detail, but I can only hold them for around half a second now versus the 1/10th when I began
>Tesla could literally create complex machines in his mind, make changes to one input or variable and see them play out at the other
says who? Even so geniuses exist and a deep understanding of your field will allow you to see the effect of your actions but people are not computers and shouldn't be equated to such. Nonetheless the human mind is clearly quite capable of entirely hallucinating imagery even proven by the fact we dream. Further to this in a more lucid (or delusional) state it's proven by the crystal clear mental
Imagery that comes from psychedelics. It's how much true control they have over that which I question. By all means if you're getting closed eye visuals when you're tripping and you start to consciously imagine an object rotating it may happen but I also think you're much more likely to convince yourself that what you were truly aiming for was happening. Like when people make AI art and they're like
>it's exactly what I pictured!
when there is no possible chance it's what they actually imagined. Just enough similarities to delude yourself. I feel like true crystal clear visualisation is more of a malfunction of the mind than a truly honeable skill. Some people probably have fricked up brains that are half tripping all the time. It's a waste of energy and a biological flaw
he literally could run experiments in his head and generate actionable insights - that's not escher style bullshit, that's actually a working physical model that has been visualised
look it up, don't let arrogance beget ignorance
where are you getting this information from exactly though? Who says he could do this?
>look it up
Well I did look it up, it says Tesla claimed this. Tesla was a smart man and any smart man knows perception is the most important thing. He needed to maintain an image and funding. A super genius who can literally visualize whole concepts is a lot more marketable than someone who simply has a great deal of background in a science nobody else understands. I'm not saying Tesla was completely full of shit, I'm saying he's smart and would be a fool not to be a showman
oh sure, he would be incredibly motivated to play up this angle of himself for marketing purposes and ultimately all descriptions of this kind will require trust until the brain is less of a blackbox
my counterpoint is that this man was also famously not business savvy and autistic as frick, and if there's anyone's word I would take on this his would be high up there
that's the crazy thing - apparently it worked exactly like that
man had his own working gmod build in his head, and I want one too
I can do something similar - I think the insights are gained more often through observing gaps in your intuition (which fuels this kind of simulation) than "simulating" an unobserved phenomenon/behavior. This may be redundant, but you cannot use this mental simulation empirically for novel complex phenomena.
I have very few memories in general not just lack of detail. It's probably mostly a recollection problem, but I can't add stuff to the memory palace that I don't already remember
read "Moonwalking with Einstein" or look up a ted talk on it. Human's have excellent spatial memory, you can exploit it to remember anything. I was on a ISTlit/ kick 5 or so years ago and learned to memorize a deck of cards, and the first 102 digits of pi. Actually useful because I can remember stats like an autist now. Don't really remember the digits of pi anymore though.
I do this but I've subbed out the whole memory palace thing for visualisation because my brain sucks at it
like flash photography in a dark room - I'm so jealous of those that have 4khd rolodexes of their life experiences
what kinda palace did you build
I do it, but honestly only every other day and only 12-15 minutes at a time before bed. It is not supposed to be easy, anon, just simple
it seems like a massive waste of time and I can't help but feel like I'm being memed every time I've tried even though I understand the premise behind it. I feel like the idea of keeping a calm quiet mind is quite achievable without having to sit and literally practice doing it
I look at it as just taking it to the next level. It has definitely helped my anxiety and I can consciously slow my heart rate down pretty rapidly now.
>I feel like the idea of keeping a calm quiet mind is quite achievable
And yet you fail at it to the point of having to seethe about it on anonymous troony forum
Meditation feels boring to you because your brain is fried with online slop so the idea of focusing on a simple singular task for longer than 10 seconds causes you pain. The point of meditation is to train your mind to find tranquil state in any situation instead of constantly seeking external stimuli. If you can sit your homosexual ass and focus on breathing for 30 minutes, you can do any task for 30 minutes with full efficiency.
I can do any task for 30 minutes fine without wasting 30 minutes doing nothing every day
then dont and stop making shit threads, jeez
I was wondering why others can't
>stop making shit threads
no
The key issue was that you said
>Fine
Not excellently, not fully. And that is because your monkey mind is always beebopping around. Unless you are engaged in an activity wherein you achieve true flow state.
fine to me is no less than perfect, do better
You are welcome to satisfy yourself however you see fit, anon. If mediocre fits you, it fits you.
>perfect
>mediocre
that's the spirit
This is quite literally your mind making excuses for why it can't just be still for a few minutes. I recommend looking up breathing techniques like the three great yogic locks and focusing on those. Or look up a guided meditation. Getting as comfortable as possible and focusing on the breath is key imo.
If it's easy for you to be quiet with your thoughts then that just means you have room temp iq
>sit there and do nothing for an hour
1 meditation should be frustrating not boring (every time you fail)
2 you don't actually need to sit and do nothing, the goal is to be able to do it while doing other stuff
without meditation I become increasingly psychotic and manic and meditation is the one thing that keeps me grounded better than exercise does
Meditation is for women and homosexuals that aren’t in control of their own bodies.
Imagine just sitting there like a moron trying to turn off the one thing that rose us out of the animal kingdom
I thought I was going crazy Thankyou
We’re still in the animal kingdom. 99% of people are slaves to their urges including you and me.
>nuh uh not me
Go 24 hours without eating or checking your phone
>using your hyper advanced future technology makes you the same as a dog
ok
Dude I get what you’re thinking
But my mindset, and what I’ve learned from a year of daily meditation, is that meditating gives you more control over your mind. We spend 12 hours a day staring at screens consuming, but15 minutes of just deep breathing and focus somehow a waste of time?
The guy who replied to you is not the guy you replied to. I’m the rose out of animal kingdom guy and we totally did. Yes we are still energy dependent but that doesn’t make us animals it makes us open systems. You’re way better off using those 15 minutes to do something productive. I’m not saying that all my time spent online is productive but sitting down like an idiot trying to calm yourself down and find “zen” is gobbledyasiatic for morons. Which is why it’s mostly women and homosexuals into mysticism that bother. Like right now I’m picturing you as a woman hyperventilating and crying because she accidentally hit a light post with her car and doesn’t know what to do
My point is that mediating is actually extremely productive. It has built so much discipline and impulse control into my life that I didn’t even know I was lacking. You can insult me all you want but I’m just trying to explain what I’ve gotten out of it. If you think you have impulse control: next time you have a bad itch on your arm or some shit, don’t scratch it and see how long you can last.
This impulse control and awareness that I’ve built with 15 minutes of mediating carries over tk the other 23 hours and 45 minutes of my day every day.
Your logic is basically like saying “why work out when you can spend that hour doing something more productive” not knowing that mediating is literally a workout for your brain.
Discipline and motivation again are for women. Men just do. As for impulse control you’re talking to the wrong guy I’ve done blood work on crocodiles in mangrove forests with a cloud of midges and mosquitos on my face without swatting at them. But I do see your point, I just think you used a gay way of reaching that self control. And I’ll think lesser of you for it
>men just do
is overly emotive and a thought terminating cliche
focus, discipline and willpower are measurable and meditation is exercise for it
maybe you're the Hercules of willpower and require no training at all, but it's not got nothing to do with being virtuous or not
I do 15 minutes a day every day. No specific time just whenever I get a break or before bed
I think it really helps a lot with just life in general. Being able to have more awareness of what goes on in your brain. I have had so much better impulse and craving controls since I started a year ago.
If you’re chronically stressed out I honestly think you NEED to meditate. It will work wonders.
can anyone share resources that have helped them start meditating?
Raised buddhist. Some of these are childrens books I would still genuinely recommend and have re-read:
How to Sit - Thich Nhat Hanh
The Tao of Pooh - Benjamin Hoff
Dhammapada
Zen Shorts / Zen Ties - Jon Muth
Otherwise just start with an activity book. Just set aside time to not be online and be engaged in all of the wonderful things that don’t revolve around your phone.
thanks - I will check these out
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