> oled burns in and has text fringing, can't use the monitor without being concerned of damaging it

> oled burns in and has text fringing, can't use the monitor without being concerned of damaging it
> mini leds have blooming
> ips glows and has shit blacks and contrast
> va slow and occasionally too dark
> dual monitor setup is expensive and takes too much space
> 32"+ 2big4me, smaller monitors are less feature rich
> curved monitors make non gaming tasks weird and distorted
> displayport above ver 1.4a nowhere to be found, planned obsolescence from day 1

i just wanted to get a good fricking monitor

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    OLED is much more resistant to burnin these days, I wouldn't worry about it.

    MiniLEDs are okay, not too much blooming - everything has blooming, miniLED has less.

    You just want perfection.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >You just want perfection

      don't we all? i'm having an existential crisis over monitors. want to buy something an feel amazed with it

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I always feel amazed with OLED (on my laptop). I was worried about burnin and then learnt to stop. Most have countermeasures and are a lot longer lasting these days.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        > shit blacks and contrast
        No one gives a frick about that except people who watch stuff in the dark. People who just want to use a TV to browse internet, watch random stuff or play games would be fine with a tv like that if the rest is good. The biggets problem are the reflective non matte screens and ghost

        If you want perfection just get a CRT

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i was worried about all that but am more than happy with my dell ips monitor. picked it because it was the reasonably priced 144hz 1440p monitor with the lowest latency. dont know what you mean by glow
    but oled is cancer for a fact, that pwm flicker damages your eyes

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    va is the superior panel

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i'd get the samsung odyssey if it wasn't curved, ultrawide and too large

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Buy VA
      >Stop thinking
      EZ PZ

      These.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    avoid oled unless you only want to consume content. it's great for tv/movies/games (sometimes, since there can be a lot of static elements).
    mini leds are prob okay, idk much about them. va and ips are fine, stop being such a nitpicker.
    dual monitor setups are nice and don't take up a lot of space and can be afforded eventually if you practice good money saving habits. it's never too late to learn anon.
    just get 2 27" inch monitors anon, this much overthinking is bad for you. 2 32" inches are fine as well.
    curved monitors are weird, agreed.
    idk about displayport stuff, i'm not that much of a monitor nerd.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      VA black crush is absolutely not fine these tvs are unusable only people who never bought one say they re fine

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Buy VA
    >Stop thinking
    EZ PZ

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      [...]
      These.

      name a good va that isn't the curved odssey or the budget aoc agon one

      Are you spending your life savings on one of these monitors? If not, just buy another one when it fails. Yeesh, quit being so goddamn poor.

      no i must have the best right now

      >oled burns in and has text fringing, can't use the monitor without being concerned of damaging it
      I just passed 10,000 hours of run time on my OLED and have absolutely zero burning.
      That's around 714 days of full time use, assuming 14hrs a day, meaning the only time it isn't on is when I'm sleeping and away from the computer a couple hours a day, which is about right for me.
      I only do light gaming and light movie watching. 80% of the time is taken up by relatively static productivity and browsing type stuff. I frequently have windows sitting in the same position for days on end.
      The only preventative measures I've taken are using a tasteful dark mode, setting my task bar to hide automatically, and reducing the screen brightness to around 30%, which sounds low but looks about as bright as the average IPS thanks to the high contrast. If I watch a movie then I switch to a mode with 50% brightness so it really pops.
      High brightness is the only enemy of OLED. If your room has controlled lighting and you never have to crank up the brightness anywhere close to the maximum then it means burn in is literally not an issue.

      what screen are you using?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >name a good va
        Acer EK220Q

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          > 21" 1080p

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Problem, chud?

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >i just wanted to get a good fricking monitor
    Then stop autisticaly searching for the best monitor and buy a good monitor

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >oled burns in and has text fringing, can't use the monitor without being concerned of damaging it
    I just passed 10,000 hours of run time on my OLED and have absolutely zero burning.
    That's around 714 days of full time use, assuming 14hrs a day, meaning the only time it isn't on is when I'm sleeping and away from the computer a couple hours a day, which is about right for me.
    I only do light gaming and light movie watching. 80% of the time is taken up by relatively static productivity and browsing type stuff. I frequently have windows sitting in the same position for days on end.
    The only preventative measures I've taken are using a tasteful dark mode, setting my task bar to hide automatically, and reducing the screen brightness to around 30%, which sounds low but looks about as bright as the average IPS thanks to the high contrast. If I watch a movie then I switch to a mode with 50% brightness so it really pops.
    High brightness is the only enemy of OLED. If your room has controlled lighting and you never have to crank up the brightness anywhere close to the maximum then it means burn in is literally not an issue.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Paid high price for oled
      >use it at 30% or 70% its capability
      The mind of a consoomer.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Paid high price for oled
        Actually I paid half price and it was a steal for a good 48" monitor.
        >use it at 30% or 70% its capability
        Watching a movie on it in a dimly lit room with HDR and with brightness past 70% literally hurts my eyes because that contrast can be that blinding. If it was a benefit then I'd run it at full brightness in those situations but in my case it just isn't.

        [...]
        name a good va that isn't the curved odssey or the budget aoc agon one

        [...]
        no i must have the best right now

        [...]
        what screen are you using?

        A Gigabyte AORUS 48". It uses the same panel as an LG C2, which was the goto recommendation for OLEDs a few years ago.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Post photo of screen displaying 5% grey and timestamp, mr oled salesman

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Buy NEC CRT Monitor bro

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >be me
    >buy a 4k 144hz VA monitor 4 years ago
    >still looks better than any other display me or my friends have
    no ragrets

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Are you spending your life savings on one of these monitors? If not, just buy another one when it fails. Yeesh, quit being so goddamn poor.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I've got a curved ultrawide VA. High end VA has good colors, about on par with IPS. Ghosting isn't too bad, imo. After using a curved monitor a few days, your eyes adjust to the curve and it's not really an issue. I'm happy with this monitor, I'll use it until HDR becomes more commonplace, at least that's the plan for now.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Im just using odyssey g6
    good enough pixel response time to not bother me in games, altho not comparable to oled or ips
    And crucially its contrast is good enough that I dont think about the light bleed when watching dark content which was an issue with my previous IPS panel.

    I dont have to think about changing my usage patterns, the panel itself will stay the same and most likely the thing to break is some internal electronics or user error. its just the best compromise monitor.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >burn in troony

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    CRT is still king

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >burns in

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    32"+ 2big4me
    GET A BIGGER DESK homie ADAPT YOU WON'T REGRET IT
    I can't even go back to 27"

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm a rentcuck. also bigger screen = more effort on the pc less franes etc

      anyones has experience with the 27" ktc mini led? it's cheap but it's mostly the same as the cooler master tempest 27u that got roastes by monitors unboxed

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >>> dual monitor setup is expensive and takes too much space
    honestly I'm on that and I want a triple monitor setup.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This thread is full of bots, VA s have bad ghosting and terrible black crush + all TV s are shit because they dont have matte screen so any darker scene becomes a fricking mirror if you dont watch in complete darkness, which 99% of people don't do 99% of the time

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      > VA s have bad ghosting
      Old 2009 S-PVAs don't have this issue.
      Though their contrast is also around 1200:1, but its true 1200:1, not the fake shit of IPS Glow™ panels (i own a 1250:1 IPS but it's nowhere as "deep" as the old 1200:1 VA).
      >and terrible black crush
      User error, buy a colorimeter

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        thats not user error its just how they achieve the contrast, by making blacks extremely black. Not much you cando especially considering mine was a cheap VA (200 $) so it didnt have a million setting allowing to diminish the blacks without fricking the rest of the picture.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          OLEDs and CRTs have INFINITE contrast but don't suffer from crush issues, once calibrated.
          Your GPU contains modifiable gamma LUTs **PRECISELY** to fix these sorts of gamma issues. You use an instrument such as a colorimeter to create those LUT.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            CRT have never suffered from any crush issue whatsoever, you bought them and they worked. Thats not happening with VAs, you buy them and they have horrible black crush. It's simple. Shouldn't they be already precalibrated if they need to be? Anyway not my fricking problem, VAs are shit.

            Are you saying the average person that they should buy a fricking colorimeter and do weird shit once they bought a TV? If that so, why isnt fricking written on the box? Why dont they warn the consumer? That's simply fricking bullshit.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >CRT have never suffered from any crush issue whatsoever, you bought them and they worked
              Only if you ran your brightness (being the black level, as CRTs used the correct photography terms) relatively high. If you actually try to squeeze the famous infinite contrast from them, you create black crush and high gamma.
              >Thats not happening with VAs, you buy them and they have horrible black crush.
              Because you bought a shitty gaming monitor.
              But all monitors are kinda dogshit in accuracy, even $1000+ EIzos. You kinda need a colorimeter in any case, if you want accurate color.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Because you bought a shitty gaming monitor.
                It was a TV, not a monitor.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Holly autism.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >BUY MUH CRT PERFECT MONITORS!
    >RESOLUTION SO LOW THAT YOU CAN COUNT INDIVUAL PIXELS
    >GIVES YOUR EYES X-RAYS
    >BUT MUH CONTRAST AND NO GHOSTING!
    >*drops monitor on himself and unable to lift it due to malnouroshment*
    >*dies in his own piss and shit*
    Do you really want to end up like CRT gays?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Here's a CRT displaying 4K

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I can feel the X-ray radiation.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why everything is so tiny?
        Also, what model? I never heared they made 4k CRTs.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Oh, never. This isn't 4k. Monitor is lower resolution.
          Displaying 4k doesn't add pixels, you moron. Density is the same.

          >I never heared they made 4k CRTs.
          >This isn't 4k. Monitor is lower resolution.
          CRTs don't have a native resolution, they don't even know what pixels are, let alone have any. They can display anything that's within supported scanning frequency.
          The GDM-F520, Mitsubishi 2070SB, and a few other monitors have a 137khz~140khz maximum scanning frequency.
          By GTF timings, 2160 vertical lines at 60hz is ~134khz, which is within this limit.
          Horizontally CRTs support any arbitrary waveforms, as they're analog devices.

          >Also, what model?
          Read the filename

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >They can display anything that's within supported scanning frequency.
            Ignorant midwit take. The fact that that a mode displays an image and syncs doesn't mean the screen is actually capable of resolving and displaying all the detail in that signal. It doesn't mean that the dot pitch is small enough to render all the detail, it doesn't mean the video signal amplifiers and all the other electronics required to drive the beams are good enough to display all the detail coming in either.

            You can bash 3840x2160 into a video mode that will sync, but you will not get 2160 lines worth of actual resolution and detail resolved on the screen and you most fricking definitely will not get 3840 pixels per line resolved either.

            I feed my 15kHz cheapo TV 2560x240 resolution and it displays the image perfectly fine, that doesn't mean a shitty SDTV from decades ago is actually capable of displaying enough detail to resolve 2560 pixels per line.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Obviously, this is taken as given. We're cramming 4k into a 20" display, it was never going to be anything practical.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Oh, never. This isn't 4k. Monitor is lower resolution.
        Displaying 4k doesn't add pixels, you moron. Density is the same.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          kinda sorta, with analog equipment it's hard to really put a fixed number on it, but after a certain point things start to blend together, everything has its' limitations, and for crts that's things like the drive electronics, beam size/focus, mask pitch, any noise it picks up along the way, etc
          like once i put 2560x240 into a crt television, there are practical reasons for doing this kind of thing, but related to this is that none of the pixels were actually /lost/, it doesn't work like an lcd where superresolutions are downsampled and pixels get lost in the process, they just become blended together when it's too high. i could move my mouse a pixel at a time and see the cursor move each time without any shape distortion like you'd see with a heavily downsampled digital>digital image. it's hard to explain
          now yes, if i tried to display small text like that the text would be too blurry to read, it's still not infinite resolution and the colour mask is way too coarse for that kind of resolution (note that the colour mask is /not/ pixels, they do not get lit up uniformly like a pixel, they work more like a colour filter grid placed over a black and white picture, they need not match up in resolution)

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >dual monitor setup is expensive and takes too much space
    Expensive yes, get monitor arms and you'll reclaim most of that space back tho

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Get a Dell U2722D, or spend even more and get the hub monitor version U2722DE
    Daily driving a pair of these and they are beautiful

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's just another variant of the Zoomer Paradox
    In a couple years your eyesight will be past threshold where it's noticeable.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i'm unironically a 30yo boomer

      >have OLED
      >no burn in over 6months so far
      >has no text fringing because I'm not a moron and don't use subpixel hacks (I also don't use windows.)

      it's that easy.

      6months isn't much. especially if you are not a heavy user and/or don't have too many static objects on your display

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the VA shilling on IST never ceases to amaze me
    It's the worst possible choice out of all

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i've been waiting for a good monitor for 8 years, and i'm still using the same shitty ips on 120hz
    i'm old now and my eyes sucj and i wish i had just gotten something better before

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    you'll have to wait for microLED, unironically.

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >have OLED
    >no burn in over 6months so far
    >has no text fringing because I'm not a moron and don't use subpixel hacks (I also don't use windows.)

    it's that easy.

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i'm considering just bitting the bullet and going all in on oled and be done with it. how much of a mistake am i making if i spend a large amount of my day lurking online instead of going for more dynamic content like gaming?

    the asus ROG Swift OLED PG27AQDM is the monitor in question, seems to have pretty decent oled care features

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      worst case you just have to buy a new one in about a year.
      I have accepted OLED is the least shit display tech currently. "Quantum Dots" are supposed to improve longevity of blue color so we'll see.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        the asus one isn't QD it's WOLED, original i wanted the msi MPG QD one which also has an even faster refresh rate but it's not available anywhere. the MAG one is but it's locked out of firmware updates so i'm not making a gamble on that

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        only shit deal with QD is the QD layer has a grayish color and in high lighting with low brightness, you can sort of see it wash out blacks. It's still pretty god damn good though.

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The correct solution is to stop caring.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Buddha chad, i kneel

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >TN has literally no issues but everyone says it's bad
    I'll go with TN

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just get the PG32UCDM, monitors don't get better than this in current year.

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You have two choices when buying a monitor today.
    Spend a lot of money on something with a lot of compromises.
    Spend a little money on something with a lot of compromises.
    People choose based on their willingness to pay and which compromises they can tolerate.
    The only hope seems to be MicroLED, but a practical home example is at least several years away.

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >can't use the monitor without being concerned of damaging it
    This is exactly why screen savers were invented.
    They say everything old eventually becomes new again, yet I still yearn for the day people start using screen savers.

    Why not try it? Just put pic related full screen for 5 minutes while you go use the toilet or something.

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