ONE high-quality set to true concentric momentary muscular failure is all you need
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ONE high-quality set to true concentric momentary muscular failure is all you need
Kssshtt - Roger that.
>gets mogged by Arnold brutally
its over
>Arnold needed a gram of coke just to compete against Mike
Not like this Arniecucks...not like this.
The problem I really have with Mentzer is that he didn't like drop sets. Which are a great way to achieve the 'true failure' he goes on about.
But volume is inverse to growth, and most people (nattys) ARE not allowing enough recovery time
What about drop reps, not an entire extra set but just a few more reps at lessening weight without resting until failure?
I mean I've seen Mike spotting and helping cheat a few extra reps for someone he was training.
Isn't that effectively the same thing as a few more reps at a lower weight, logically/scientifically speaking?
Because if Mike is helping a trainee cheat a few extra reps, isn't that effectively lessening the weight, and the same thing as another rep with lesser/lighter weight?
I want to repeat this same exact sentence in seven more different variations ultimately saying the same thing.
What if I added some helium balloons to the weights for the last few reps—would that replicate what Mike is doing when he helps push/pull for the few last reps?
What if I jumped in a swimming pool with the same weight but because of the scientific laws of physics concerning water, it would be the same as if Mike were there with me, looking over me with approval and pride in the way my father never did?
Let me try to put it another way:
What if I had a robot that is also my chef and lover that I taped a picture of Mike Mentzer onto it, and my Mike Mentzer Robot helped me cheat the last few reps to failure, would that still be HIT, blessed with all the beauty and glory of The Mentz?
In other words does this make me gay? Am I gay now? Is this gay?
Don't over complicate it, just pick the intensity technique that's the exercise allows for. If it's a machine exercise with pin loaded weight then maybe do a drop set and if it's a standing curl then do a few cheat reps after going to failure with good form, or it's a free weight exercise that's not a good idea to cheat up, then just do a little rest pause set, or partials. Basically do a drop set if changing the weight is no hassle and do a different intensity technique if it is a hassle.
Underrated
But also you are gay
You're right about the comparison, people typically call this forced reps though
If you can do 5 reps, but not a 6th, you are potentially leaving up to 20% before failure on the table. Drop reps are required to fill whatever gap is left. This becomes less of a problem for rep ranges of 8 and more. However, there a other ways to hit true failure on different lifts. OHP for example, you can push press a few reps after failure. Incline bench, you can use some leg drive and the last reps. Flat bench, you'll need a spotter. Lat pulldowns, partials if your biceps are fried.
I do pause sets (rep to failure partial rest, rep to failure again rinse and repeat until desired reps are achieved) and it more or less works the same way just requires a spotter usually and it's technically one set since full rest is never achieved.
With the first working set you hit concentric failure, and then with the drop set... you hit concentric failure again. The intensity isn't higher. You need static holds or negatives to drive it any higher.
Depends on how strong you are.
He preferred negatives with a spotter once you were completely gassed, and even then only for a few more to make sure the tank was empty. One of his speeches he likened lighter weights(subjectively to the individual) to being no better than lifting a pen from the floor, you might get tired but there was only destruction with little to no benefit(think crossshitters loving Rhabdo). Progress was only made with maximum effort in a few repetitions.
the rationale for "1 X to concentric momentary muscular failure" was something he picked up from arthur jones and repeated essentially verbatim in all of his seminars:
"there are two accurate measures of intensity, 0% and 100%"
the statement that 100% intensity is necessary was not made, only that 100% is clearly sufficient. in fact, mike explicitly says that you do not know whether the "light switch turns on" at 85%, 92% or 69.420% intensity.
Mike only ever said in his seminars that you cannot accurately measure any level of intensity other than 100%, says that 100% would clearly be sufficient, therefore to move forward with the explicit goal, in any working set, of reaching 100% intensity.
I think a lot of people get muddled by his way of speaking, but the important points, for me, were that starting from solid foundational principles allows you to think clearly about the subject. he was not as prescriptive as people's parodies of him - when you understand his definitions of the words he uses they are perfectly logical.
>reddit spacing
>psued take
go back you brown dyel
i will graciously allow you to eat my entire butthole, newbie
i don't care what dyel brownoids think or say kek
Did you mean?
>ONE high-quality REP to true concentric momentary muscular failure is all you need
Otherwise, NGMI.
Only way to safely do that is an overcoming isometric to failure
I hear ya mike but I ain't jacked enough to do it at nearly enough intensity, I might be pickin up what you're puttin down in 3 years or sum kno what I'm sayin?
per hour
per day
per week
per month
????
Thank you Mike
So let's say I am doing GSLP with 2 hard working sets, one to failure and that's basically it for the main muscle groups, is that kind of what he had in mind? I guess the difference is that he would only hit that muscle once a week.
>implying you can take all your muscles to failure with a compound set.
Do you think your lower traps are taken even near failure on a heavy set of pulldowns? Of course not.
>By 1998, Mike had boiled down training to just four exercises. Deadlifts, dips, squats, lat pulldowns
>Heavy squats performed in a smith machine 8-15 reps and close grip palms up pulldowns 6-10 reps
>Rest 4-5 days
>regular deadlift 5-8 reps and dips 6-10 reps
>rest 4-5 days or more depending on how heavy you are lifting
>He eventually allowed leg press periodically to replace either a squat or dead lift session
Don't forget 1gram of test and dbol
Not everyone he was training at this point was on gear and they all got the benefit. Drugs are a multiplier, 0x100 is still zero. If you want to see pathetic, check out trt clinic facebook posts. There might be one or two guys who were fit before jumping on so they made way more progress after, but most are just as fat and pathetic as before.
Yesterday I did
5x5 squats
5x5 ohp
12,10,8,4 (last set drop set by removing weight so did 4,3,3,3)
Dips 3xFailure
Weighted situps 5x10
Today I did 30 min cardio
Tomorrow is
Deadlift
Bench
Pull-ups
Curls
Abs
U MAD?
ur wasting ur time
post body dyel
Depends on the weight and your goals
If you're only doing a single set it should definitely be a massive drop set beyond failure, at least
The best thing about HIT is getting similar results to gymcels w/o being a gymcel, basically two short intense sessions a week and you're all set. You might not be powerlifter, but chasing powerlifting does more harm than good and you'll be strong nevertheless. It helps you save face too, bc most natties will never look particularly good and it's stupid to slave 5 days a week at the gym and have nothing to show for it.
you don't even need to do that one set to failure to stimulate a lot of growth
any amount of lifting will help the dyel pajeets who look up to metzner kek
So Rich Piana said go every day and Mike Mentzer says 4 times a month. Rich says over training is a myth, Mike says significant rest is required to look good. Mike was the first 10/10 Olympia winner, Rich only ever got Mr. California and Mr. npc California. Who is correct?
the guy who wasn't a gay meth addict only dyels disagree
… so neither?
Piana mogs him, stopped giving a shit about competing so what's your point lol
Funny, judges disagreed until Rich gave up to sell supplements.
Piana mass mogs tf out of him, aesthetics have nothing to do with who built more muscle from their training, so what's YOUR point exactly?
So does boogie. Even Rich was troubled by how fat his waistline was. Always trying to vacuum it away in futility. Meanwhile Mentzer effortlessly found balance in all things.
Because he looked like a freak. He was undoubtedly bigger
Can someone confirm whether Rich used synthol or not because it looks like he did.
He admitted it on one of the Ric Drasin interviews he did. Talks about how you have to inject underneath the muscle.
Different stimuli grow muscles in different ways.
I did one set years before, and i'm still coasting on the gains
you just need to do it INTENSELY
ONE high-quality set to true concentric momentary muscular failure is all you need*
*if you roid :^)
Nautilus (now just Bowflex) filed for bankruptcy this year. Mike not only died of aids and butt hurt from 1981, but his legacy is also gone. Dorian doesn’t even follow his methods.