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>this time pharmaceuticals will work
>this time they will be safe
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>stay chunky
>lose 100% of your body mass permanently with this one simple trick!
there's always a catch
Sad. Many such cases.
>slim down for daughter's wedding
Lol, it's not even your wedding. Why do you give a shit?
She will be in photos that her daugher will keep for life.
tfw the weightloss drug works a little too well
>Stay chunky, my friends
reading that genuinely made me shudder
Trust your instincts, we developed them over millions of years
DNP is unironically safer than this.
Keto works like DNP and is even safer.
God the shit fat morons say
No it does not
Keto works literally the exact same way DNP works. +500kcal/day metabolic boost via mitochondrial uncoupling.
Not even going to read that. Keto isn't going to make you generate so much body heat that you can have a nice day with it. Keto is not going to shred you nearly as fast either.
Same brand of meme worshipping idiocy as "nofap is like blasting tren!!!".
>Keto isn't going to make you generate so much body heat that you can have a nice day with it.
Right. Keto is safe. It has the exact same effect that DNP has but it's totally safe because it's regulated by your natural physiology.
If you're not generating potentially lethal amounts of heat then you're not performing nearly the same amount of uncoupling. It's very simple from a mechanical point of view. The reason behind uncoupling generating excess heat is because dnp diffuses the proton gradient meaning that your ETC is highly inefficient at generating ATP, with energy meant for adding the phosphate being lost as heat.
By definition keto can't be as good at uncoupling and thus driving weight loss as evidenced by the lack of heat, handwaving this as being due to "regulation by your natural physiology" reeks of pseud misunderstanding of literature or lack of critical thinking.
How much does a standard DNP dose raise metabolism?
Keto is proven to raise on average +500kcal/day for fat people. Some people get +800kcal/day boost.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2,4-Dinitrophenol
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5337177/
Why not answer the question?
>keto does the same thing as DNP
>expect it's safe because it doesn't do the same thing
Keto does literally the exact same thing as DNP. Mitochondrial uncoupling. Boosts metabolism +500kcal/day.
It's safe because you aren't taking a drug. You can't overdose.
>expect
>Thrice vaccinated “anti-vaxxer” Degrees in Biochemistry/Molecular Biology and Microbiology from UGA.
how the frick is she in microbiology and frick up this much?
A lot of scientists are really fricking dumb in the sense that all of their knowledge are compartmentalized sections of different fields that gets increasingly niche and abstract, and they are unable to apply even basic principles to different or broader sections. Especially women, and especially in medicine/cell biology where people just rote memorize a lot.
lol
>t.doesn'tknowasinglescientistordoctorandiscompletelytalkingoutofhisass
you're incredibly naive or too stupid to know how stupid you are if you think everyone who can qualify as a 'scientist' is brilliant
i didn;'t say that.
i merely made fun of a silly and simplistic take that is based on hearsay, forum rants, and no first-hand experience at all.
>take that is based on hearsay, forum rants, and no first-hand experience at all.
that literally describes your comment, word-for-word
>no you
>that literally describes your comment, word-for-word
Actually, it does not.
Actually, it does.
>hearsay
>no firsthand experience
youre either preschool young or dumb as a rock
ever notice how these study-oriented girls that make grades into their personality i.e. every fem-stem student jyst mémorisé and repeat their textbooks word for word ? you might ask them a completely simple basic yet nontrivial thing and they break. moreso when they get a B instead of A+ on their assignment for some reason
hilarity (and much tearful drama) ensues
its always been like that
>ever notice how these study-oriented girls that make grades into their personality i.e. every fem-stem student jyst mémorisé and repeat their textbooks word for word ?
no, I haven't noticed this
>every fem-stem student jyst mémorisé and repeat their textbooks word for word
sounds like you want this to be true ...but why?
>t. ass mad med student
That post isn't the first or the last time you are going to say and do something categorically wrong so I guess you might as well practice.
Greetings from the chemistry department
kek
chembros always know exactly what to think of the medshitters, since we have to supervise their lab experiments
glad I no longer work in academia anymore, having to deal with them once a year was a pain
I actually work directly with doctors and scientists, he’s kinda right. 90% of doctors are arrogant morons, like slightly above average iq but think they’re god. I unironically hate almost every MD and surgeon I know, and I know alot, including a couple family members. They think their medical knowledge (btw they actually just google a lot of shit lol) somehow makes them an expert on everything in life. It’s caused by the culty behavior in hospital culture.
Scientists tend to be awkward weirdos that don’t know anything outside of their lane, but they’re not arrogant, they are just naive and have too much trust in the system they’re part of.
The absolute worst people in the system are nurses. Medicine is absolutely chock full of the worst people you’ll ever meet, it’s actually kind of unbelievable.
I won’t even get into the israeli hospital admin and insurance.
t. big dick boss level bio medical gay
You really sound like you're in the American system, amirite?
It’s the only system that really matters as much as that makes euros seethe
But yeah
I'm not a Euro, and you sound more American with every word you write.
Why would the American system matter to a Euro, or anyone but an American?
Where do you think all the standard practices and pharmaceuticals come from anon? The EU basically just forces America to trial their drugs a little longer before allowing submission, the US companies always end up kicking over generics to the EU and Asia.
Basically it trickles into every nation unless you’re not in Western Europe or American controlled Asian nations, but even then the practices and meds from the US will find you.
The US has obscene financial incentives to promote new research and products, which means it is making more products and practices than any other nation. it also has incentives to lie and cheat to make those products, which makes the entire system creating those products and practices unreliable. At the end of the day all this practices and products end up everywhere else.
You think it’s arrogance but I think you’re ignorant to what the global system really means. Look at how almost every single nation reacted to covid.
Ah, I thought you were talking about the health-care provider system, not stricly pharma research and marketing
>the US companies always end up kicking over generics to the EU and Asia.
you mmake this sound like an act of goodwill or something lol
I know you don't mean it that way, it just reads that
The US healthcare provider system also decides which pharma products and practices gets approved. Doctors literally have lobby groups to protect their financial interests, so yea, it still does
Clinical trials are extremely expensive hence why only select few medications enter the market.
Lmao that’s not why, and it’s not limited to pharma alone, even Biologics treatments that are under 13485 reg don’t get used due to surgeon lobbies.
I’ve actually done all the work to get a pharma product commercialized, it’s entirely based off insurance and lobbying. They just use the cost of clinical trials as a barrier to entry.
Let me explain a little better;
>we’ve developed a treatment for X problem that will fix the issue after one application and is affordable
>FDA requires 510k
>get 510k approved and clinical testing completed
>doctor lobby that has been using Y treatment with a 10% success rate, that is also reimbursed by insurance up to 3 times, doesn’t like your treatment as it is taking money from their pocket by sidelining them for another specialty
>doctors lobbies CMS to not accept it on MAC as it isn’t “the best course of treatment”
>if you can’t get accepted by Medicare your product flounders as you lose 90% of potential business
I have unironically seen this exact scenario play out. Do you really think those surgeons are giving you the best and most affordable care possible? Do you ever think they might be taking kickbacks from the device or pharmaceutical manufacturers? Because bottom line is they are. They are getting direct pay out and taking some off the top before sending reimbursement back to the company.
>>FDA requires 510k
>>get 510k approved and clinical testing completed
510k isn't even enough for a phase 1 clinical trial.
That specific example was just for a medical device, that’s what a 510k is, but you probably don’t know that
To put it simply, you’re foolish to think the by far largest medical industry in the world doesn’t effect every nations medical industry
Yeah just look how many countries took the clotshots.
Westerners are all subjected to the same medical system.
I could fix her immune system with an injection of my wiener in her c**t.
We don't think about you at all.
Sure bro
Ok satan
>be me
>16 yo HS student
>want to help people
>get nurse assistant cert (CNA)
>work in alzheimer unit at local care center
>talk to old lady every day about her home town (it’s a ghost town now but she thinks she’s still a kid)
>she tell me what job everyone does and where everyone lives
>is very happy talking about home
>b***h nurse runs over to tell old lady she’s in a care center and her home town is a ghost town
>old lady starts crying
Every time
>mean old lady lives in care center
>all the nurses hate her because she’s rude to them
>one day gets pneumonia and is dying
>is scared
>wants somebody to comfort her
>all nurses laugh about it
>spend my whole night holding her hand as she dies
>nurses start saying rude things about me for it
How about
>old lady wants ice cream
>nurses won’t give her any because it isn’t Wednesday
>ice cream is like $0.50 a cup (it’s the cheap dollar store shit with a wood spoon)
>I steal her some
>nurse finds out I’ve been doing this
>snitches on me to israeli admin
>almost am fired
Or
>guy with MS is living in care center
>like 40 years old
>always wants beer
>is allowed beer but nurses don’t like it because they have to help him to pisser and that’s too much work for their lazy asses
>sneak him a six pack
>he molests some nurses ass that night when she helps him to toilet
I still laugh about that
And that’s just a care center, hospital nurses are just as bad and catty. It’s like HS.
Boomer-enabler, considering what they deserve, not physically abusing them every day makes one a saint by default
Nurses just want an easy, fairly secure job. They're all stupid b***hes, it's pretty much literally in the curriculum. So is hating on actual doctors and viewing them as some sort of nemesis that stands in their way. The really greedy ones become nurse practitioners, who act like they know as much doctors when they clearly fricking don't because their programs consist mostly of liberal arts courses. The online accelerated RN and NP programs are spewing them out in unprecedented numbers.
Doctors are just as bad as nurses, they’re just slightly smarter and have a good complex
This was like 20 years ago, so not boomers moron
>I won’t even get into the israeli hospital admin and insurance.
i work in corporate accounting at a major PBM. our healthcare system needs to be destroyed and all israelite executives flayed to the bone.
>The absolute worst people in the system are nurses.
Why are nurses especially bad? Can you tell me in greentext anecdotes?
(heil Satan)
Some nurses are powertripping buttholes
Some patients (especialy boomers) are entitled buttholes
Some patients are molesting/attacking nurses and face 0 consequences legaly
Nurses are not realy allowed to defend themselfes in most situations, especialy with crazy people (not talking about some sperg who infodumps, but on schitzphrenia and dementia)
The pay for this job is bad, the work conditions are bad, everyone is overworked to hell and back and it destroys your body over time.
So pro tip if you need to get hospitalised at some point:
Bring the nurses some cupcakes or something and be nice
I have a PhD and think he's 100 % right. Most professors I know are extreme experts in the tiny fraction of a field they've chosen to pursue, but they are completely incapable of looking at the big picture.
true. It's understandable since human knowledge about any subject has become incredibly complex so you can't expect anybody to specialize in anything more than its tiniest part, but still some scientists become kinda arrogant and put too much trust into their general knowledge. I'd still take them over the ignorant scum whose mantra is "trust the science" even tho more often than not scientists are in constant disagreement over whatever statement
This is the same moron who vaxxed their child, who then went on to get bad myocarditis
https://twitter.com/eekymom/status/1422939709995720709
keep coping
frick off keto homosexual
don't pretend to be me.
>keto
actual, legit schizophrenia
actual, legit israelite shill being paid to demoralize a heavy basket lifting appraising forum lol what a loser
>a forum
you aren't the whole forum, loser
You'll still be an ugly ass fricking troony, skellygay or lardgay.
Honestly, you should only ever consider trooning out if you're a manlet and look like blondelashes19 or some shit. If you don't look like that, you should just either go to therapy or ack yourself.
Zoil finally slimmed down nice
I love the hair. I'm gonna miss my long hair once male pattern baldness hits.
Went from red skinned to yellow, impressive.
>admits to being fat, not having the willpower to lose weight, and taking potentially dangerous chemicals just so he can cheat his way to weightloss
>tells others to cope
trannie behavior
ywnbaw
(you)
just eat less you useless homosexual
Sorry, posted the wrong pic
Thank you for paying my taxes 🙂
I hope you don't die because then you'll stop paying.
Ftt troony
Fat to thin
>fat troony
disgust
It's never too late to repent.
A family friend works for the UK drugs regulator and told us recently at a dinner that there's a lot of fake ozempic being sold, just repackaged epipens and insulin. That pen looks exactly like the fake he showed us, stay safe anon
>O-o-o-ozempACK
you just proved op's point kek
eat healthy food
+
exercise
=
profit
pretty weird that every weight loss drug just doesnt work or starts getting weird side effects for no reason.
oh well, at least the people that i know dont have any sides so far
I don't get it, why don't people just eat less, why do they need a drug to force them to do the same.
Same reason roiders roid. Laziness.
Roids let you achieve what you can't naturally dumbfrick
Eating less doesn't work.
Discipline has become an increasingly large problem over the last century or so. People just don't have it. And it's not a problem that can be fixed a few beatdowns or medication. It's ingrained early in life. It's a real problem. And old sayings about lifting yourself up by your bootstraps or whatever just don't apply to something like that. Without proper motivation, it's not happening. Psychiatry is a tricky thing.
I fricking hate women, fricking c**t always choosing the easy way, ALWAYS.
Fricking b***h.
Men are the ones selling ozempic to women and promising that ozempic is safe and effective. Just like with the vaccines. Women are gullible and will do whatever you tell them to.
>Just like with the vaccines.
It's been three years and excess mortality is even lower now that predicted. When will antivaxxers finally admit that they were wrong?
Lmao my doctor actually recommended me this shit a few months ago and I told him to frick off.
I just went on keto instead and already lost almost 20 pounds in like 2 months.
Just do diet and exercise like a normal person, instead of bullshit shortcuts.
If a lazy fatass like me can do it, there's no excuse for these other buttholes.
>lost almost 20 pounds
all water weight
>just do keto
>instead of lazy shortcuts
Anon, you took a shortcut to lose a ton of water weight. You're not actually learning to control your cravings for delicious bread and French fries. The second you get off keto it'll all come back. I wish you luck, but if you're a self described fat ass, you won't keep it off.
>uses saxenda
>blames ozempic
anyway, both suck
use mounjaro/tirzepatide
>this time the pharmaceuticals will work for sure
I don't use it, I use yacon syrup and it just works
but if you're going to use meds use mounjaro/tirzepatide, not ozempic/saxenda
WTF. I literally watched this guy's videos for the first time like yesterday.
Yes use mounjaro you fat homosexuals
>t. heavily invested in $LLY
Rapalogs will be the next big thing for anti-aging.
Anti-aging won't be anywhere near as big. Fat loss drugs are gonna be the next oxycontin as fat amerimutts get addicted to them, side-effects be damned.
Side effects from ozempic are rare and obesity is not just a cosmetic condition. Obesity is as bad as smoking for your health.
You're gonna give yourself cancer but thanks anyways because I'm up 70% since the start of the year
You know what causes cancer? Obesity.
Why the focus on the potential negatives of life-saving medication while ignoring the conditions they treat? Are you moronic?
Put down the fork fatty. Or inject yourself because you have no self-control lmao, I don't mind.
I don't even use ozempic and have fought my way all the way down from morbidly obese to now near normal weight just with willpower alone.
Despite that, I acknowledge that addictions are near impossible to beat for the average person hence why medications are needed. The US is near 45% obese in 2023 and it's only going to get worse unless prices come down.
Fat people deserve to die for not having the basic willpower to not stuff themselves full of goyslop. If they create shareholder value while doing so then that's the most useful they'll ever be in their lives so all's well that ends well.
That's a very immature attitude you have. Humans are animals and like all animals we will stuff our faces with food to compensate for times when we can't.
If you want to view yourself as an animal then be a good example of livestock and get fattened and slaughtered for my enrichment
homie you are a pathetic loser on the internet.
And you're a fat pathetic Black person that can't even type a hard R
have a nice day moron
You first
>pic related, it's time for your weekly dose fatty
OK anyways I'm gonna hit my goals in 6 months with ozempic and continue having sex with hot women.
>I'm gonna hit my goals after this little cheat meal teehee
>then I'll be cumming in hot women instead of in my hand
Yeah, wagmi, especially me.
>two fatties in one pic
Good for you bro, punching in your weight class
>two fatties in one pic
>Good for you bro, punching in your weight class
>t. Seethe and coper
Then go outside and kill them, pussy
>sister drug, Saxenda
Uhh saxendasisters???
The sad truth we can’t acknowledge is that IST is broke and can’t afford ozempic, so they cope and say it’s useless or for pussies
How many experimental mRNA injections did you get?
Three for free?
>I need drugs to lose weight
is this the new "genetics" excuse?
It's the new excuse for shitting yourself in Wal-Mart.
I have money and a problem. Use money to solve problem. Not complicated
>all she had to do was put down the fork
>she didn't even have to work out, if the only goal was to lose weight, just eating less would have worked
>instead she swallowed questionable meds she knew nothing about and is now crippled for life
Women's laziness would kill them all if men didn't pull them back from the edge every now and then.
It’s the same as it’s always been recommended. If someone is very obese this poses a more serious health risk than ozempics side effects so they get ozempic. It’s cut and dry. If someone is a soccer mom looking to lose 15 pounds, she is a a moron to take it.
People actually tried this stuff?
I remember years ago seeing those dumbass commercials with my gf late at night and we'd always make cracks about it being another miracle weightloss drug that'll kill you.
It amazes me how much people are not willing to stop eating.
getting fat is about the worst thing you can do to yourself short of hard drugs because of the massive downsides it has for every single aspect of life.
everyone who gets fat is moronic, so it's no big surprise they'd do other moronic things, too.
>people are not willing to stop eating.
They try but when you don't know about satiety it's very difficult. Most people think it is okay to eat carbs when trying to lose weight. Some people even reduce their fat consumption which makes them even hungrier.
a-a-are you telling me the keto schizos were right all along?
Ketoschizos are always wrong. CICOchads and OzempicCHADs rule.
Clinical studies say otherwise.
>studies say
Uh huh, take dangerous experimental drugs to lose weight.
Uh huh, better stay obese which will surely kill you or do keto which will destroy your arteries (you can always blame it on the covid vaccine which you didn't take).
Death in one year vs death in decades
Guy on the left started keto for his cut from 23 to 18% bf because he jerks it to his reflection in the mirror and likes to eat steak.
Guy on the right started CICO to lose weight. He's gone from 213 to 187 lb. Well done.
The guy on the right has done more "work" to lose weight. What's your point, that vain buttholes are vain?
It literally is a miracle weightloss drug though
/pol/tards deep down know it but hate it anyway because now they can't bully fat people anymore.
You literally are too fat and lazy to not be fat and lazy. It took pharama to wreck your goy body. You will never be a woman
Was it necessary to mention you saw these ads with your gf? Is it relevant to your point at all? Huh? Fricking show off.
paralized intestin ? does it mean she can't shit anymore without assistance ?
>Do not take ozempic (semaglutide) because this other medication sexenda (liraglutide) fricked up my fat moronic sister
woman logic
imagine just putting the fork down
Fat people lying about the drug online
>hurrr you're coping and shilling
No, these people fail the logical observation that they're shilling fat positivity and "healthy lifestyle changes (aka starvation dieting)" yet, taking them on good faith only (lol) they decided to take the drug.
>but why lie
In case you have been asleep for the last 20 years, pharma isn't popular and there's this whole thing about "fat positivity." Now, pharma IS the big israelite, but in every other country other than Satanic America, these drugs are not expensive. I'm just judging the drug, which works.
15% of the US population take ozempic without any issue but of course online alt-right antivaxxers trust random twitter users lying about supposed ozempic complications.
Fact is, ozempic makes it so much easier to stay in a deficit and lose weight which will positively impact your health in the short and long term (obesity is one of the biggest killers).
t. losing fat without using drugs because I can't afford them anyway
pay docked, way too obvious
Fat people don't eat because they're hungry so drugs like this don't work anyway.
sounds like she's feeling hunger for the first time in years
>To lose weight, you simply have to eat less calories than you use. You can increase your expenditure by doing moving more and doing sports. You will most likely spare money on food.
Frick that bullshit ! It doesn't work ! Don't you know dieting is dangerous !!
>Here inject yourself with this drug that is made to treat literal diabete that has 3 gazillions side effect and a nice markup
OMG I NEED THIS, I need to lose 2kg in 6 months for my daughter's wedding and it's impossible without injecting random chemicals !!
This is how the average person think
The "random chemicals" enforce calorie restriction.
I firmly believe that in 5-10 years we'll see a rise in cases of ozempic-induced turbo-cancers. Screencap this.
Is this around the same time when the covid vaccine finally kills everyone which you guys predicted to occur in 2022?
Maybe, who knows? I have no data, other than a hunch to back it up. Do whatever you want with that.
My hunch tells me you are going to commit suicide soon.
After you, hopefully. Remember, YWNBAW anon ¯_(ツ)_/¯
I don't even want to be a woman. What is up with the alt right and their troony obsession?
So these drugs are supposed to make you feel full or lose your appetite?
That can't be good.
>So these drugs are supposed to make you feel full or lose your appetite?
Both
>That can't be good.
It beats being obese or overweight which has an extremely negative impact on your health and life.
yes, they mimic the hormones that get released after binge eating. that's why these are the normal side effects.
Those are still rare side effects affecting 1/10 of people or less.
Ozempic works by reducing your impulsive tendencies and cravings
It's not just food, it works for smoking, alcohol and even shit like gambling
We don't really know how, but it's basically an addiction inhibitor
homies were boiling to death on chinese bathtub DNP back in the day, frick this homosexual nonsense
You made a deal with the devil you fat cow, pay your due
threads like these make me feel like a superhero for losing 20kg in a year through willpower alone
20kg is nothing. I lost over 50kg without ozempic and still promote it because I don't believe there is a single realistic alternative to solving this pandemic.
50kg in a year? damn son.
Over 2.5 years. In the first year I lost like 25kg.
So you didn't do better than the other anon.
Ok bro? Your thyroid is getting fricked rn Idc if you are straight or not, stop using that poison.
>muh thyroid
Frick off boomer.
Ozempic is yet another miracle drug that'll solve obesity for those who embrace it. Conspiracytards stay mad.
No. I have 0 sides, and I'm monitored by my doctor. Obesity is worse. I just hit 24 percent bf down from 38? If you follow fat thread I was greek gruel, and lots of users there have seen my progress. Lost enough weight to even date/hookups now.
B-but muh hypothetical sides which you'll only notice in 400 years!?
Good. Let desparate helpless fatties die thin. It is the best outcome for them
I'm not the ketotard I just thought it was a funny picture
qrd on the pharmacological hell that ozempic causes? i vaguely know it's bad but i haven't bothered to dig into the details yet
You vaguely are wrong
>You vaguely are wrong
yes i know in the short term it's a glp-1 agonist bla bla it helps you lose weight but i'm talking about the long term changes
Nothing, as far as we know
hey fat people, you have to work hard to look like me. there is no magic pill. also you don't deserve to look like me because you're weak. looking good requires more than luck. you don't even understand what I mean by more because you've given up on anything that was hard in your entire life. stay home, stay fat, stay depressed. leave the world for men like me.
>there is no magic pill.
There literally is now. Get with the times, boomer.
It's hilarious that the relatively small amount of morons on this drug had enough of an effect that it noticeably lowered the sales of junkfood. Just goes to show fatties stuff junk down their gullet all day and all night and need a drug to paralyze their digestion to control themselves.
Ozempic doesn’t affect digestion, only appetite and cravings.
I have been trying to find this guy I saw on Instagram or TikTok who was an EMS “Influencer” and he had several videos absolutely sperging out on people who were saying Ozempic was too good to be true. I had never seen anyone lean more heavily into “TRUST THE EXPERTS” even during covid. I wanted to go mock him but I can’t find him
Even israelites are more trustworthy than alt right /misc/cels sperging out about le big pharma boogeyman.
>Can bench three plates
>Room looks like that
I can smell the roidtroony blooming from here.
But yeah, keto is the dumbest fad I've probably seen pushed on this board, at least you have the braincells to manage that.
>Saxenda
>Sister drug
Do not ever listen to this moron
It was forced on /fat/ this spring and summer.
How many of them are died?
Like one guy claims to be on it and his results are worse than the one Anon who is using yacon syrup instead.
I've posted before and afters and have lost 80 pounds and I'm real.
moron cope, I've posted videos in the thread benching 3 plates.
>I smoke and I don't have lung cancer
>owns all this shit
>y-yeah I'm a straight guy
>I can even bench... (Googles "what's a lot of weight to bench") ...um, 3 plates?
Why not take modafinil and enjoy appetite blunting with free energy and concentration benefits as well? Lmao at copezempic
>Sausage fingers
Do those lose weight last or what? How fat did you start? srs question
If you're lazy and undisciplined to the point you need medicine to lose weight you cannot expect to be healthy
That is true, and pharmaceutical injections tend to harm health which adds to the negative burden their body is under.
Health is not injectable.
this is LITERALLY the slresult of women being greedy. Ive lost 10kg in the span of a month. These Hofs will abuse the dosage because they want to lose their fat, but they dont do anything to make their diet better. 15 twists a week, intermittent fasting and hydration helped me lose all of this weight.
These b***hes will inject themselves 2 a week with triple the weekly dosage amd then ask themselves why theyre dying.
OP, have a nice day. Kill yousrself now for being a disinformation spreading homosexual.
>Do low dose test
>More muscles
>Less fat
>Can keep muscles on a cut
Know natures drugs work best