it's the daily "armchair scientists in IST thinks that phytoestrogens are the same as human estrogens because they are spelled similarly" thread.
most of these papers are not or otherwise barely readable (i expect this was intentional) but I picked one and lmao the participants were already seeing fertility problems.
and in response
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19819436/ >Onions protein isolates of varying isoflavone content do not adversely affect semen quality in healthy young men >Result(s): Urinary isoflavones were significantly higher after consumption of high-iso SPI compared with the low-iso SPI and MPI. Semen parameters, including semen volume, sperm concentration, sperm count, sperm percent motility, total motile sperm count, and sperm morphology, were not significantly affected by consumption of either low- or high-iso SPI compared with MPI. >Conclusion(s): Consumption of onions protein of low or high isoflavone content does not adversely affect semen quality in a sample of healthy adult men.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35197681/ >Results: Obtained results showed that total sperm count (224.7 [117-369] vs. 119.7 [64.8-442.8]; P = 0.011) and the percentage of rapid progressively motile sperm were significantly higher in the vegan group compared with the non-vegan group (1 [0-7] vs. 17.5 [15-30]; P < 0.0001). Furthermore, the oxidation-reduction potential (0.4 [0.3-0.9] vs. 1.5 [0.6-2.8]; P < 0.0001) and the proportion of spermatozoon with DNA damage (14.7 [7-33.5] vs. 8.2 [3-19.5]; P = 0.05) were significantly higher in the non-vegan group in comparison to the vegan group.
Conclusions: Results obtained in this study provide additional evidence about the favourable effect of a plant-based diet on sperm parameters. To confirm our preliminary findings, further studies including larger cohorts are warranted.
Continue to be terrified of a bean for literally the stupidest reason possible, though.
>possible legume allergy
honestly, probably
I'm allergic to lactose and onions makes my skin fall off
so it wouldn't surprise me and would explain my reactions to other beans
Religions are so fricking stupid. >lmao I'll just trick my god by not eating while he's awake, or just not eating meat lol >oh I can't do work, that I've never wanted to do in my life, but that includes light switches? Better make some fricking israelite switch that un-jews this lever because god doesn't care if I trigger a rube-goldberg machine to flip that tiny lever I didn't do any work.
Religion is literally just basic common knowledge of >rest is important >don't kill fellow tribesmen >stealing builds distrust in the tribe >don't shit where you eat
Being vegetarian for a week does not constitute a fast.
I am familiar with religious fast, and the modern versions of "fast" where you only eat bread/rice or don't eat meat during Lent or whatever is not a fast. It's a travesty of what a real fast is and it's only like this because modern churches try to pander to most people that are not devout enough to do a real fast.
Hell at least when Muslims do Ramadan they properly don't eat food for 12 waking hours, which is better than what modern Christians do.
>Peanuts Are Estrogen
Look anon, I ate HUGE quantities of peanuts and peanut butter in my life. I also ate HUGE quantities of SUPER FIRM tofu, that's the kind with more protein, more fat, more everything. HUGE quantities of basedmilk too.
I didn't become a femboy (rare straight femboy), (even though that would have been cool) and I ended up just getting a lot of protein and vitamins and minerals and became a giga-chad
I can not stress how disappointed I am.
I WISH these foods had worked. but this shit just doesn't work like that. I think it's all a bullshit meme to cause fear.
I am not a doctor. I am not a nutritionist. None of this is medical advice. None of this is food advice.
Ask your doctor and nutritionist before doing anything.
peanuts are legumes
leg-uh-meh nutzz
Peenuts
You mean deez nuts
phytoestrogen =/= estrogen
eating phytoestrogen will not lower your test levels, or increase your estrogen levels
what about xenoestrogens?
this homie eatin alien beans
we all are
Nah, he ligma alien nuts!
Yes it will.
The entire current medicine for treating female menopause is based on that.
no it won't
>here is the data-driven consensus on the impact of phytoestrogen in humans
>n-no
Very well debated friend. I am convinced by your flawless arguments.
it's the daily "armchair scientists in IST thinks that phytoestrogens are the same as human estrogens because they are spelled similarly" thread.
most of these papers are not or otherwise barely readable (i expect this was intentional) but I picked one and lmao the participants were already seeing fertility problems.
and in response
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19819436/
>Onions protein isolates of varying isoflavone content do not adversely affect semen quality in healthy young men
>Result(s): Urinary isoflavones were significantly higher after consumption of high-iso SPI compared with the low-iso SPI and MPI. Semen parameters, including semen volume, sperm concentration, sperm count, sperm percent motility, total motile sperm count, and sperm morphology, were not significantly affected by consumption of either low- or high-iso SPI compared with MPI.
>Conclusion(s): Consumption of onions protein of low or high isoflavone content does not adversely affect semen quality in a sample of healthy adult men.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35197681/
>Results: Obtained results showed that total sperm count (224.7 [117-369] vs. 119.7 [64.8-442.8]; P = 0.011) and the percentage of rapid progressively motile sperm were significantly higher in the vegan group compared with the non-vegan group (1 [0-7] vs. 17.5 [15-30]; P < 0.0001). Furthermore, the oxidation-reduction potential (0.4 [0.3-0.9] vs. 1.5 [0.6-2.8]; P < 0.0001) and the proportion of spermatozoon with DNA damage (14.7 [7-33.5] vs. 8.2 [3-19.5]; P = 0.05) were significantly higher in the non-vegan group in comparison to the vegan group.
Conclusions: Results obtained in this study provide additional evidence about the favourable effect of a plant-based diet on sperm parameters. To confirm our preliminary findings, further studies including larger cohorts are warranted.
Continue to be terrified of a bean for literally the stupidest reason possible, though.
>absolutely fricking SEETHING homosexual posts two conflicting studies about his gay beans
>he thinks these studies are conflicting
How does it feel to be reading at a 5 year olds level?
It feels like having an iq of 180 in comparison to all vegans.
Especially that fricking moron moxy.
As the previous pics prove, plant estrogen has an impact on human hormones, so it should be avoided.
>adult men have 3x the estrogen of a little girl
so if a girl eats a man, does she become a woman?
>But they have nuts in the name!
i might be allergic but you got a laugh out of me
Look at the pic above, white bread is three times worse than peanuts. Pinto beans are ten times worse. Soya flour is a hundred times worse.
Be careful about what you eat.
I've been eating 1/2lb to 1lb of peanut butter a day for multiple years. 770 ng/dl test.
Post body OP
(This post sponsored by the JIF corporation)
Thats a lot. I eat probably a cup of peanuts a day. They are a great snack or meal.
it's heartbreaking, but I couldn't figure out why I felt like shit every time I was eating peanuts and now I know
Are you sure you don't just have a mild peanut allergy
>possible legume allergy
honestly, probably
I'm allergic to lactose and onions makes my skin fall off
so it wouldn't surprise me and would explain my reactions to other beans
frickin IST still autocorrects soi to onions
something else is wrong if your test is affected by fricking peanuts
skimaskduets? Is that you?
>that pre-workout peanut butter and honey toast
nothing beats it.
I eat like 4 tablespoons of peanut butter a day to bulk while I fast (Orthodox). Is it over for me?
>I eat while I fast
>is it over?
Well, your fast sure is over, because you're not even fasting in the first place.
Nah its a religious fast where we must abstain from most animal products.
Religions are so fricking stupid.
>lmao I'll just trick my god by not eating while he's awake, or just not eating meat lol
>oh I can't do work, that I've never wanted to do in my life, but that includes light switches? Better make some fricking israelite switch that un-jews this lever because god doesn't care if I trigger a rube-goldberg machine to flip that tiny lever I didn't do any work.
Religion is literally just basic common knowledge of
>rest is important
>don't kill fellow tribesmen
>stealing builds distrust in the tribe
>don't shit where you eat
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion?wprov=sfla1
>religion is for DYELs
who do you think invented preacher curls?
dumbass
Until someone from the Orthodox sect has posted body, they will not defeat the DYEL body built allegations
Being vegetarian for a week does not constitute a fast.
I am familiar with religious fast, and the modern versions of "fast" where you only eat bread/rice or don't eat meat during Lent or whatever is not a fast. It's a travesty of what a real fast is and it's only like this because modern churches try to pander to most people that are not devout enough to do a real fast.
Hell at least when Muslims do Ramadan they properly don't eat food for 12 waking hours, which is better than what modern Christians do.
>Peanuts Are Estrogen
Look anon, I ate HUGE quantities of peanuts and peanut butter in my life. I also ate HUGE quantities of SUPER FIRM tofu, that's the kind with more protein, more fat, more everything. HUGE quantities of basedmilk too.
I didn't become a femboy (rare straight femboy), (even though that would have been cool) and I ended up just getting a lot of protein and vitamins and minerals and became a giga-chad
I can not stress how disappointed I am.
I WISH these foods had worked. but this shit just doesn't work like that. I think it's all a bullshit meme to cause fear.
I am not a doctor. I am not a nutritionist. None of this is medical advice. None of this is food advice.
Ask your doctor and nutritionist before doing anything.
>I didn't become a femboy
You did though, you just don't see it. It's apparent to people who don't look through vegan-tinted glasses.
Imagine being scared of a fricking peanut.
No one is getting high estrogen from food.
See
Estrogen from food has a proven effect on humans and is sometimes used medically.
>34.5 micrograms
Yeah why don't you Google phytoesteogens in "I can't believe it's not ONIONS"