People have been gaslighting me about my physique my whole fricking life, my mom, my friends. They tell me I look alright, while I'm severly underweight. Only very recently I've gained some self awareness where I decided to actually start bulking and hitting the gym.
It's unfortunate how many people will bring you down, it's more likely that you are ugly, that you are not enough than the opposite. Work on yourself and feel good about yourself only when you actually earn it.
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>People have been lying to me.
Post body and we'll let you know if they were lying
This. Post body OP
Took a picture now. I know I'm not fat but I hate myself nonetheless. I'm 5'10 135 lbs atm
Eh your kinda skinny
Skinnyfat. I sentence you to 1 year heavy lifting with slight calorics deficit and high protein intake. Sentence effective immediately
What about cardio, how intensive should it be?
NTA. Moderate intensity, 2.5 hours total per week. It'll keep your heart healthy and it'll build your work capacity. Also don't worry about a caloric deficit. He's a moron for calling you skinnyfat. Aim to gain around 0.5lb-1lb per week and you'll be minimizing fat gain while gaining plenty of muscle. If you bulk like crazy you'll just get fat and you don't have a lot of fat to lose to begin with
This is all good advice… except the caloric surplus.
There’s so much literature pointing to the fact you can lose fat and gain muscle with a very high protein diet. Like 1g to 1.1g per lb of body weight should be your goal.
Not when you're as lean as OP. Anything south of 15% bodyfat would be a struggle and anything below 12% is impossible without roids and a great genetic response to them. He's skinny and needs to bulk a bit. The guy is nearly 6' tall and weighs a buck 35 for fricks sake
This homie is 5’10” 135 lbs. He’s never going to be jacked if he doesn’t gain weight. The “literature” probably never even involved a participant in a study who was this underweight considering the rarity of it. Over relying on scientific studies can cause you to miss the blatantly obvious.
The guy can start life lean pilled without ever having to diet down. It depends what he wants.
I know personally I’d rather just stay lean and move into Brad pit mode rather than prioritizing muscle gains. It’s a personal choice but he should know he has the option
>2.5 hours total per week
150 minutes of cardio a week is crazy. I go to the gym three times a week and I can barely run for 15 minutes after a work out
dont get too caught up in what people are saying online. you are absically average which isnt necessarily a bad thing. you arent fat. Youre not even skinnyfat like another anon says. Youre just slim build
Youd be fine just doing a bit of lifting but overall youre NOT fricked up like you think
Honestly in america you probably have a better body than most people considering our obesity rate is probably above 50% now.
Realistically your average. One year of lifting with high protein will make you look much better.
Good luck anon. We believe in you
average male physique of the twentieth century working man. calm down op.
You’re skinny but have a decent build to work from. Once you put on some mass, you’ll look great if you stay lean.
You just have a stark lack of muscle mass. You need to gain weight slowly and really focus on driving your strength numbers up. Push hard every workout for progressive overload. If your not progressing, something is going wrong. Add 40-100lbs to all your lifts over a year and you will look much better.
That belly fat potrusion with everthing else slim makes you a bit skinnyfat. Bulking will make you worse but is your ultimate salvation.
Your family hasn't been gaslighting you moron, your body is just normal. Your physique is average, but your mentality is cringe.
Start lifting, make friends, get b***hes, and get off this website until you develop the mental fortitude to not have your entire worldview dictated by shitposters.
Alright, thanks bros for the advice. My weight gain has been around 0.5 to 2lbs a week, depending on how much I eat. I'll try to go harder in the gym and get more protein.
I feel like people gaslight me because I can tell b***hes don't see me as enough of a man for them to consider, so clearly I'm not enough.
>I can tell b***hes don't see me as enough of a man for them to consider
That has nothing to do with your muscles and everything to do with you listening to what your mother says.
I don't listen to my mother. I don't like her that much and I'm often cold. If we go by the rule that your parents serve as role models in how you treat both men and women, then I don't like women very much. Ironically I am too nice around them.
What I meant is, if you have a solid, physical evidence of your strength and you can create such aura just by existing, then confidence is very natural, it's earned. What is there to be confident about in my current state? Anyone can frick me up.
fit for a modern american
scrawny compared to our goal
very slowly bulk otherwise you will get stuck in purgatory
Fitter than most people. Just keep working at it. It's a lifelong commitment. Not a fast change.
Weird you don't look that underweight but you weight as much as me and I'm 5'6
hello OP, I relate. I was also skinny as a kid/teen and nobody in my family ever saw anything wrong with that. Now i am stuck with tiny wrists and small bones because they didn't force my b***h ass to eat as a kid.
I don't get why white parents don't care about this shit
you just have severe body dysmorphia that is made worse by the fact that you're an incel + you browse incel websites where everyone else is super insecure
Most people define alright as "not fat". Particularly if they are "not not fat".
People have always asked me if I went to the gym in high school, even though I never really lifted weights seriously back then. That probably held me back from actually going to the gym until I was 23.
Huh, thats strange. I live in the UK and it's typically the other way around.
Since most people are overweight or obese people think that 25 percent bodyfat is healthy and losing more would make you a skeleton or really unhealthy. Most peoples perception on what is a healthy weight is off by like 25kg
This is my mother, always telling me that I'm "eating too much" and "nobody needs that many eggs" and yells at me whenever I cook anything. The other day, I tried to excitedly tell her about a PR I made on rows and she told me that I'm "obsessed" and that it's gross. God fricking dammit I can't wait to move out in July.
I mog you. We’re like the same height but I’m 192lbs. We’re probably also the same bodyfat. I was 118lbs when I graduated highschool.
Watch out for me in 8 weeks after the CUT.
do you sleep in the cage?
No, that’s where we put Arthur when I come to spend time with Cheryl. I got him a Garmin GPS that he really enjoys playing with; he likes to find new routes to get places that he likes going to. It keeps him busy for at least an hour or two.
how did you gain the self awareness? A girl told you that she's going with another guy because "he has abs"?
It's more like multiple girls treating me like "you're good enough to be seen with me in public but you're not good enough for anything more than that". I'll admit my attitude could have more edge and assertiveness to it but these things come easily when you know you deserve it (with your physique). So in my view a good body is a huge prerequisite for strong, stable self confidence.
>when you know you deserve it (with your physique)
Stop reading mangas.
>I've seen ridiculous claims such as 'You're not a real man if you weigh under 200 lbs'
How is that a ridiculous claim? Do you think you could really hold your own against some ripped dude who's 6'+ 250lb+? The correct answer is "no." I'm struggling to reach & maintain 160lbs at 5'10" height, and I will never "feel good" about myself. There's nothing I can do to be as physically capable as someone bigger than me.
180-190 and lean is perfect for your height
Thanks dude. The toughest thing for me now is eating when I don't want to eat. That's all that's holding me back.
180 and 12% is realistic and not terrible to maintain. Eating sucks, that’s what I’m shooting for. I posted my body at 192 earlier in thread, I’m so relieved to be able to cut. Eating sucks.
That's what a gun is for
>How is that a ridiculous claim? Do you think you could really hold your own against some ripped dude who's 6'+ 250lb+?
No 6'+ guy is ripped over 250 lbs. What the hell are you projecting?
Being fat =/= being physically capable you fricking shitskin
>6' 250 + pounds
Some dude is gonna carjack your car at work and you're gonna try to shoot him 3 times but miss every shot then you'll walk around like an npc while he backs up your truck and runs you over with it. Because you're morbidly obese you won't be able to avoid the multi-ton vehicle speeding towards you and you will die while he serves 5 years in jail.
>Do you think you could really hold your own against some ripped dude who's 6'+ 250lb+? The correct answer is "no." I'm struggling to reach & maintain 160lbs at 5'10" height, and I will never "feel good" about myself. There's nothing I can do to be as physically capable as someone bigger than me.
I am 6' and 180-190.
I easily beat a guy 6'5 and 400 lbs in a fight.
He was younger than me, worked construction. I am chronically ill and middle aged. Hell, my doctor would rip me a new one if he knew I still get into fights with my injuries (hernia etc).
You just fell for the memes because you're dumb.
I don't get into fights with other men, 1 because it's Black person behavior, and 2 because it's lowkey gay
calm down rajesh you fricking sandBlack person
That's why men need a dad. Mom loves you unconditionally, even if you're a fat moron who will never do anything. Dad will tell you that you look like a pussy (if he loves you) and will help teach you to be stronger and more capable (if he's a good dad).
Parents are telling me I looks fine, too.
I can see my gut, I'm not blind.
Me too OP. I was always way too skinny. Then I got a bit fat. After about a year of on and off effort I’m finally starting to look somewhat OK. I think for guys like us, progress can come quick if you really want it.
WHAT THE FRICK you’re literally me if i was 10kg lighter and like 5 years younger. hair, flat feet and all
Post body big bro
actually, looking at my own pic here i’m a lot fatter than you. in brighter light my hair colour goes just like yours
You look like a kid tho
>omg anon you’re so skinny!
>literally still like 18 percent body fat down from 25+
i will NOT stop losing weight until i can see every single striation on my stomach. “healthy at any size” normalgays get fricked