People need to stop overcomplicating lifting

Just go to the gym and lift bro.

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  1. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    There are people on both sides of that, that will lift for 2-3 years and still look dyel then come here going insane because they don't understand why they look like shit.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      There are but the overcomplicating side is worse. You will be get results as long as you are consistent, patient and don't eat horribly.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        ngl I made pretty notable gains lifting a lot and eating whatever I want as long as I ate a decentish meat portion a day. Big enough that people point it out to me. I moved on to eating right for quite a while and it made no more difference to how much people point it out. once you surpass a certain point of muscle people just get used to you being muscular and then there is no more mire gains to be had until you roid

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          >a decentish meat portion a day
          Like 500g?

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            That's the thing about it
            I dont frickin know

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah im like that. I personally dont pay attention to numbers i just eat what looks like it would be a somewhat healthy and balanced diet and go to the gym and lift whatever weight feels like i should do. Seems to be doing good enough for me so far

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Pretty much. A lot of people want to get things perfect right from the get go, but like anything you're going to make mistakes and you'll have to adopt any plan to suite your own needs, strengths, and weaknesses. The perfect is the enemy of the good and all that. Like once I started lifting it became immediately clear that my biggest issues were consistency and just not eating enough but you can't know that going into it.

      This can definitely happen but it's a lot easier to correct than the person who's caught in analysis paralysis for too long to build a habit. Like if someone is already eating right and going to the gym 3-4 times a week it's a lot easier to just get them to do the right exercises and drink a protein shake than it is to get someone to start going to the gym and eating right consistently. So even then it's not a total waste.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      moronic image because of what
      said. Plenty of people do not know what the frick they're doing and "just lift" but never get anywhere because, again, they don't know what the frick they're doing.

      Pretty much. A lot of people want to get things perfect right from the get go, but like anything you're going to make mistakes and you'll have to adopt any plan to suite your own needs, strengths, and weaknesses. The perfect is the enemy of the good and all that. Like once I started lifting it became immediately clear that my biggest issues were consistency and just not eating enough but you can't know that going into it.

      This can definitely happen but it's a lot easier to correct than the person who's caught in analysis paralysis for too long to build a habit. Like if someone is already eating right and going to the gym 3-4 times a week it's a lot easier to just get them to do the right exercises and drink a protein shake than it is to get someone to start going to the gym and eating right consistently. So even then it's not a total waste.

      There is also less of a need for correction if you just give people directions from the outset instead of relying on trial and error.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      I think the most common problem is that they're overzealous and don't rest enough.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Happened me for 4 years. I never ate enough and when i did i trained too much because i followed the "YOU DO NOT TRAIN HARD ENOUGH" advice and "NATTIES AND NON ATHLETES WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO OVERTRAIN". I'm fricking moronic.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        >NATTIES AND NON ATHLETES WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO OVERTRAIN
        why do tren tards push this so much? is it a social media thing

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      There are several issues with measuring your progress by comparing yourself to others (I assume that's what you meant by looking dyel):
      - Pump (+creatine usage). Many people will take post gym pump pics. In fact I think these are the most common pics, you rarely see anyone here without a pump. So the issue here is if you are that one guy who will post a pic of yourself without a pump you'll look subpar. Also hypertrophy training gives you bigger pump and not everyone does that. Creatine also makes your pump bigger by increasing water retention.
      - Steroids. Number one reason why you shouldn't compare your body and progress to anyone else on the internet. No way to check who's actually natty. Narcissists will lie about their natty status even on anonymous forums.
      - Height. It's much easier to look wide and muscular on pictures for short guys than it is for lanky tall guys. Also it takes lots of calories to sustain a muscular body for a tall person, so that's additional challenge.
      - Lighting, camera lens FOV, good angles, camera quality. Those variables affect how good you look on pics.

  2. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    why don't you fricking MAKE me DAAAD

  3. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >used to advice people to do compounds
    >end up never doing compounds myself because my bullshit machine/cable routine is more fun
    What did I mean by this?

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >>end up never doing compounds myself because my bullshit machine/cable routine is more fun
      Post body, cable isolation are ironicaly apparently great for hypertrophy. Especially of shoulders.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Those can still be compounds. Compounds doesn't mean "le barbellz only" it just means utilizing multiple joints/muscle groups per movement.
      A row or press or squat on a machine is still a compound. Don't listen to the barbell autists, which I guess you haven't.

  4. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    I think the part that gets overlooked here is that it takes years of lifting and becoming legit IST to have that deep understanding of the core principles and how they apply.

    Especially nowadays there is an absolute information overload, and while its great for people to get off their ass and go to the gym, its easy to realize once you get there that you don't know what the frick you're doing.

    TLDR: just lift hard and eat a lot bro

  5. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    why is he wearing peter griffins pants?

  6. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    This image is a prime example of the dunning Kruger effect. Given the fact that literally 94% of the gym population looks like they are untrained, or in their first 6 months, empirically and obviously, they ARE doing something wrong, as showing up everyday and moving weights isn’t enough, as the moron in the OP tries to postulate.

    It’s not “just lift 4x a day bro”. In NO athletic sport is the coaching approach “just throw the ball, bro” “just kick the ball, bro” “just jump over the hurdle, bro”

    Now frick off homosexual. I’d bet 5k you can’t even lift 1/2/3/4 for 5 reps (something that should be accomplished after one year of training.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Reddit word
      >Reddit spacing
      Hmmmmm

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      In my opinion the reason people don't actually 'make it,' is because they never push past their own version of 'ok this is a lot of weight,' moment. People get lazy then just spin their wheels at the same spot forever till they give up or leave thinking they made it.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        I accidentally smashed through that due to overloding a bar while sleep deprived. Almost fricking died but my new bench max was suddenly 40 lbs heavier and i found out I have more in me.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >you can’t even lift 1/2/3/4 for 5 reps (something that should be accomplished after one year of training.
      nta but who says this? Some homosexuals online? You're going to judget what's valuable by what homosexuals online invented out of thin air?

      My grip strength steeply declines after 3pl8s deadlift and I don't want to some day have some failure and snap my shit up forever, so why would I ever do mixed grip 4pl8 dls for reps? Because some stupid homosexual online said I should? have a nice day please.

      I also don't do 3 plates squat for reps because guess what? I don't fricking want to, I don't want to mate. You're the one who's being ruled by these stupid numbers.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I don't want to mate
        haha you are gay

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's a good indicator of a person's strenght and because strength and muscle go pretty much hand in hand it's a sign if somebody is DYEL or not.

        Also, use straps if grip becomes an issue.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          >use straps if grip becomes an issue.
          why don't i just use a forklift

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Best post itt.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Given the fact that literally 94% of the gym population looks like they are untrained, or in their first 6 months
      This is probably because most people who aren't committed to lifting go through cycles where they feel out of shape, decide to lift for a little while, then either don't develop the habit or just give up because it's hard work and they're not cut out for it. You see this all the time with new years resolutions. People might get a burst of motivation and try to stick to it for a while, but then they stop. May gradually, maybe all at once, but they do. There are entire gyms who's business model is predicated on people buying memberships then just never showing up or cancelling the subscription.

      Being fat or lazy is almost like having a booze problem. People try to quit but they relapse a lot more often than they actually quit. Lifting is the same, it's just a relapse into idleness.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Well anon let's consider ourselves fortunate enough to like lifting and be able to stick with it. Why does everything have to be so toxic and hateful, not saying you're being hateful but just you see it often here. I don't judge someone who has a hard time with sticking to something.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Why does everything have to be so toxic and hateful,
          Unironically, you know how you are always more mean about someone else when talking about them and they're not there? Internet has that effect for all interaction.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Bad bait. Please leave.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      holy shit dont lift it would be a waste of time for you i hope you live long and weak

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >lift 1/2/3/4
      Seen this a million times and have no idea what it means, even now.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        1 gf, 2 jobs, 3 bugatti’s, 4 kids

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        The amount of 45 lb plates on each side of the barbell for main lifts.

        >OHP - 1 plate each side - 135 lbs
        >Bench - 2 plate each side - 225 lbs
        >Squat - 3 plate each side - 315 lbs
        >Deadlift - 4 plate each side - 405 lbs

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      People know to eat less and move more to lose weight yet they still don't lose weight. Similarly, people know to get bigger muscles they need to fatigue the muscle, yet not everyone is muscular. It's not an intellectual effort, but an effort of will.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      the vast majority of people quit before they get fit

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      People get filtered out because they expect it to be something you just pay for the results
      Why do you think fitness industry snake oil salesman get away with the amount of ridiculous shit they sell.
      Why do you think gear and ozempic have become mainstream popular
      People want to buy fitness not work for it

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      This. I don't remember the video but some youtuber did a poll about what the viewership's barbell numbers were and they were really low. I think most was like one plate bench and barely two plate squats.

      Ive watched newbies asking form tips and it's just other dyels parroting things they've heard on youtube videos, not really understanding them.

  7. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    anybody have that webcomic of the guy lifting for women and geting mired by dudes?

  8. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    entirely depends on whether you're a novice, intermediate, advanced, or anything in between. Of course nearly anything works for beginners, but the further along you are you can't pretend that not reorienting your training, diet, recovery etc isn't what's holding you back. The vast majority of gym goers are DYEL because of lack of consistency and effort if anything, early intermediate is achievable with most splits and not even maximum effort.

    It's related to the phenomenon of novices coping with the natty limit as soon as they reach their first plateau of course, there is no natty limit since all plateaus are caused by the limits of your current approach to programming/recovery/diet/intensity, not anything inherint to your body but because these things have to be adapted to what works for you.

    Also why it's often hard to give advice to novices, generic advice will lead to frustration in the intermediate stage when they realize that no scientific study or 'best' way of training matters if it doesn't work for them.

  9. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Dyel only has one good question and that is is bulk or cut
    And the only good answer is look at the mirror and bmi

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      everyone who asks that question online are always gonna look like shit for another half a year no matter what they do, they should literally just lift.

  10. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    whats a carb blocker

  11. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    At the end of the day, u gotta go hard or go home. You have to reach for the stars

  12. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Stop over complicating it, Just use roids

  13. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    I used to try and force myself into the gym. I hated every minute of it. Too much people, loud music, waiting for the machines, the smell, the roasties stealing plates to use as a phone stand. I tried 3 different gyms over the course of 2 years but never really made any progress.

    Last year, I had the most painful breakup in my life, my dad died, etc etc, you wouldn't believe how much can drop on you all at once. I moved, switched jobs, dropped alcohol.
    What I did was I started rooning/walking to a nearby OUTDOOR gym. 2 times a week, then 3 times a week, every week. In the rain, and during the winter too. Started with just pull-ups and chin-ups, now 1 year later I do hundreds of each, weighted, I do muscle-ups and I'm in the best shape in my life. It's actually great. I feel strong and I'm lean.

    Sometimes you need to find a routine and a setting that fits you. I needed piece of mind, tranquility, place for myself, and a real challenge. I enjoy the functional movements and everything calisthenics has to offer. Outdoor gym was it for me. I will never ever go to a commercial gym again, and I don't care about lifting free weights that much.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm happy for finding your place and your inner peace, anon. This is what lifting and fitness should be about.

      But now tell me: how do you do a hundred pull ups? I cannot get beyond 7 in a row and it makes me really sad.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        My progress was built on a reverse pyramid. When I started, I could only do like 5 in total. I started adding sets on top.
        5 4 3 2 1
        6 5 4 3 2 1
        7 6 5 4 3 2 1
        When I reached 10, I started to do as many sets of 10 as I could until I reached 10x10. It's worth mentioning that I also alternate between chin-ups and pull-ups, so it was more like
        5 4 3 2 1; 5 4 3 2 1
        6 5 4 3 2 1; 6 5 4 3 2 1
        etc.
        When the numbers got ridiculous (10x10, 10x10) I started adding weight. I test my ability to do non-weighted from time to time too, currently at 22 pull-ups with a perfect form and 28 if I force myself and the form goes to shit.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          Before anyone says anything about the method - I just do what I like and I honestly don't care about the best rep range or amount of sets or that you shouldn't smoke while you're doing chin-ups. Never in my life I thought I could do a single pull-up with 20 kg weight.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          Sounds good, I'll give it a try.
          How much do you rest between sets?

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            2-3 minutes give or take. Sometimes the weather is complete shit so I need more rest. Sometimes I finish my workout early cause I barely need rest (usually it's a sign I'm ready to progress further).

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      The key to long term success is to find something you enjoy, for me it's lifting heavy ass weights. I don't need to be motivated to go to the gym and usually it's the better part of my days.

      The gym you go to matters a lot, I used to lift at a weightlifting / powerlifting gym but recently moved and had to switch to a normie commercial gym and the general atmosphere is a night and day difference.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        >and the general atmosphere is a night and day difference
        For the better or worse?

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          Worse, so much worse.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Mind to elaborate?
            I'm a home gym enjoyer an I have no idea how the outside world works.

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              More serious lifters of every strength level, no music at all, only sounds were people chatting and clanking of plates, really respectful and supportive people. People took care of the equipment. Coaches who were actually accomplished instead of week end course personal trainers who know very little about movement and programming.

              200kg squat wasn't a big deal there, in a normie commercial gym I feel like the entire gym is staring at me doing it for reps.

              No thots distracting you either, there were women but they weren't dressing up like prostitutes. Most people wore sweat pants and an old shitty t-shirt.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >200kg squat wasn't a big deal there, in a normie commercial gym I feel like the entire gym is staring at me doing it for reps.
                No wonder, I haven't ever seen that in the wild either.

                Happened me for 4 years. I never ate enough and when i did i trained too much because i followed the "YOU DO NOT TRAIN HARD ENOUGH" advice and "NATTIES AND NON ATHLETES WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO OVERTRAIN". I'm fricking moronic.

                There are people on both sides of that, that will lift for 2-3 years and still look dyel then come here going insane because they don't understand why they look like shit.

                Kek, I'm in the same boat. I have only recently found that taking every set to failure might not be ideal.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's great that you have found something you enjoy bro. Heavy weights are cool as frick.
        >usually it's the better part of my days
        Absolutely.

  14. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    youre right, pic applies to basically anything

  15. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    OP is DYEL

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Post body

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >n-no, u!
      Grim comeback anon.

  16. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Fixed

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      perfect

  17. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Do isolation / hypertrophy focused program in the summer
    Do strength focused program in the winter

    Simple as

  18. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    lift all you want. if you are natty its all for nothing

  19. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >how do I [x]-maxx?

  20. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    the best fitness advice you'll find comes from within

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