>People really believe that the staple foods that created and sustained all of the great civilizations and societies is bad for you, because a diet book author who died with advanced and extreme atherosclerosis wrote that bacon and pork rinds were healthier for you.
just because your ancestors ate something, lived to 40 and had kids doesn't meant it's good for you. You can live on mcdonalds until 40 and have kids too.
Nice strawman
that's literally the argument
>staple foods that created and sustained all of the great civilizations and societies
mcdonalds and other shitty processed food have been the staple and are. sustaining the most developed civilizations today. doesn't mean its good.
OP: This food built society
Some guy: "You think this food is good because people lived long eating it"
Its literally a strawman. Its attacking an argument nobody made. Calm down
You need to look up the definition of strawman. You one of those people who just yell “stop gaslighting me!” when you lose an argument?
The only society that ever based itself on grains was ancient Egypt and everyone made fun of them for being fatfricks with manboobs.
Ancient Egypt loved Falafel and Duqqa thk
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It's quantity over quality. Grains have basically 0 nutritional value, they're just calories and carbs. Sustaining, but not nourishing.
Yeah but who tf eats grains on their own, add a bannana, berries or some pasta sauce to them if you want nutrients, simples
so why bother eating the grains
>add a bannana, berries or some pasta sauce
nutrients in these? now i think youre just trolling
It's no bother. You are a hypochondriac and a homosexual.
good bait
Yup eating spaghetti isn't a bother at all. Somebody ban me for trolling!
are you still trying to imply spaghetti has nutrients? Take a b12 pill or something mate you're demented
Grain has historically always been viewed as a quantity over quality type of sustenance. There's a reason why the rich have always dined on meat, dairy, fruit and vegetables, whilst bread and other grain foods are most often found in the diets of the working poor.
Grains are and always were peasant food.
Kings are meat.
Kings were usually obese and had ailments like gout whilst the peasants were hardy and physically fit.
>foods that created and sustained all of the great civilizations and societies
And where did that get us? The majority of the human population on the planet is overweight. The way it's going it's going to be mostly obese within decades. Agriculture is a failed experiment.
lmao, humans aren't even used to grains yet, here grains were introduce only a few hundred years ago and everyone gets stomach problems from them.
Grains are slop for masses, just because they sustain humans doesn't mean they are good for us you dummy. You can live on fricking gummy bears.
Where the frick do you live? Even the ancient Egyptians had grains and cereal crops.
Slave food
And? Grains are just a fricking blip on our timeline of being mostly meat eaters. We are not horses.
>here grains were introduce only a few hundred years ago
Even stone age tier savage tribes in Africa are more civilized than your people then.
Grains are meant for farmers, whole grains I mean, not modern refined ones
The greatest civilizations did have grains, but they also had meat and/or fish in considerable amounts. There hasn't been a single great civilization that didn't consume meat/fish/animal products.
Indians?
saars pls do not redeem the bait
Lots of dairy
and where are those great civilizations now?
really believe that the staple foods that created and sustained all of the great civilizations and societies is bad for you, because a diet book author who died with advanced and extreme atherosclerosis wrote that bacon and pork rinds were healthier for you.
Welcome to the modern age, where people have 24/7 access to all information, ever, and still, 100%, come to the wrong conclusions.
Good goy
>muh ancestuzz thread 9027888
Not the mongols. They btfo every great civilization who had a grain diet. Meat in general is a performance enhancer. Fur traders and explorers could travel 50% further in a day on meat and fats over eating grain. It can keep you alive sure, but you won't thrive on it. Also it is genetic. Some people can thrive on it while others can eat it and be bed bound.
The mongols were defeated by the Japanese, who ate mainly rice. Stop repeating memes.
Mongols consume Mantou like crazy, they are the reason why one half of China consume Manto, and after contact with arabs they also consume a lot of Pilaf
>Not the mongols. They btfo every great civilization who had a grain diet.
Except Europe.
Or Japan.
Or India.
Or Afganistan (culture lol).
Actually, they weren't really that great except in the mind of uneducated Amerifats.
>people develop agriculture and start eating grains
>people get short and sickly
wow...
Northern China and Central asians mog Rice eating asians in Height and Muscles
>moxte spent Christmas and New Year crying about people eating meat on an imageboard full of fat gays
Skinniest Italian
Civilization is built on grain because its cheap and plentiful, not because its quality. Keep in mind that hunter-gatherers had longer lifespans than during most of civilization, and it wasn't really until modern medicine, germ theory, etc did our modern lifespans really surpass
All that is to say, a grain-based diet probably isnt the best for you on an individual level. But if everyone were to go keto/paleo/carnivore/blah-blah-blah tjen there wouldn't be enough for everyone, and it wouldnt work. It similar to how I can pirate vidya and movies because there are enough simps out there to pay for it. If theoretically everyone pirated, no.l games/movies would be made
Literally nothing you just wrote is relevant to the point OP made
As societies scaled, they needed a way to feed more and more people that met these criteria:
>cheap and plentiful
>can be stockpiled in case of drought (because you can't pick up and move like when you were a small tribe)
>can be traded easily
Grains met those criteria. Notice what ISN'T important is how nutritional the food is. Grains have always been "good enough" to make society work at scale. Meat is better for you but you couldn't feed everyone on it in early civilization when they started scaling. Factory farming made it possible for most people to live on meat and dairy and yet people still eat goyslop lmao.
more important than those qualities is taxability
good luck hiding a tenth of your wheat field
Civilization is built on slavery. Grains enable an excess slave population of human livestock. Nothing to do with grains promoting health in humans.
Literally nobody asked
u mad bro?
Yes you are trying to wake up the goyim.
I dont like that.
Disgusting image, I would rather eat grass