"You can't be lifting only X kg in Y months of practice, I was lifting heavier than you for less time"
"What the hell did you do in X months of practice? I had a better physique than you for half the practice time"
Why do people use their own progress as the ultimate reference? Can't you see that not everyone starts from the same point and progresses at the same speed as you? Do you think the world revolves around you?
it's the basic human instinct to mog, however your mom castrated you so now you're asking this
sage
It's literally just bragging. The urge to do so is particularly common in very insecure people.
What I can't understand is that people think that just because they've made such and such progress over such and such a period of time, it must be the case for everyone else, and that if they deviate from it (for better or worse progress, but it's often when it's worse that they express their criticism), then something must be wrong. Self-proclaimed reference.
Absolute short term starting point and progress doesn't matter but relative does. If you say you have been going to the gym for 3 years and can't bench 2pl8, then yeah you are fricking up and bringing in personal experience is relevant.
>If you say you have been going to the gym for 3 years and can't bench 2pl8, then yeah you are fricking up and bringing in personal experience is relevant.
Why wouldn't it be relevant? I'm not saying it isn't an outlier, but it can help some other people in the same situation.
Ok I had read IRrelevant sorry
pretty sure he meant to type irrelevant
not him but when I started working out I was 48kgs, 3 years later I'm 72kgs at 1.75m but still can't bench 2pl8 because I had to gain weight first
That's so far outside the average starting point, so fair enough. I am a couple of cm taller than you but I remember being 65kg as a skinny 17 year old. 48kg is legit auswitch mode
I used to brag about my lifting progress because I was gifted for it and I was an immature and very insecure moron. I was benching nearly 300lb and squatting over 500lb after my first 7 months at 180lb bodyweight. Notably very outside the norm and I latched on to it to fuel my ego and make myself not feel like a worthless bug of a young man
How and when did you realise you were above average?
When I was outlifting people who had been going to the gym for 2 years in less than 3 months and was more muscular than them. My baseline arm measurement was 16.5" which I didn't know was a big arm
Before you started lifting, had you ever noticed that you were good at sports, for example at school? Did you start lifting with little or no background in the field?
I had gone to a charter art school in highschool so I didn't have any opportunities to get into sports sadly. Although we did have a gym class and I was always the winner of any competition they had except against one guy who was a cross country runner. Couldn't beat him on cardio stuff
Ok so you were really born with golden genetics
Your logic is moronic
in that case no one can ever evaluate someones progress because there could always be someone weaker somewhere
You can evaluate, but you can't consider that everyone should have the same progression as you. You're not the ultimate reference.
yes you are
you're not either!
Strength gains also aren't bodybuilding gains, it's meaningless when the average person trains to move weight instead of putting tension on their muscle. I'll bet most of the people flexing their lifts are fat too
OP you have to realize that a large percentage of the time, people are bullshitting when they do this. They're either inflating their own numbers or just making shit up whole cloth to troll. The only reason to bother comparing yourself to others is in a very general way with large error bars. Say you're stuck on a certain weight for a month, that's obviously fairly unusual. Then you can see what other guys do to overcome plateaus. Or maybe it seems like it took you two years to do what most people seem to do in one, maybe look at your situation and figure out what's different (eating habits, training routines, sleeping, frequency, what weight you started at, height/weight you started at, etc.). The more specific you make these comparisons with other people, the more useless they become because of how different people are.
If someone posts neither body nor video of them performing a list you have to accept they might be full of shit.
>Or maybe it seems like it took you two years to do what most people seem to do in one, maybe look at your situation and figure out what's different (eating habits, training routines, sleeping, frequency, what weight you started at, height/weight you started at, etc.)
This is what happens to me, but apart from thinking I start from a very bad starting point and have shitty genetics, I do not really explain why I do struggle so much.
Because I'm better than you. That means you should provide me your gf to impregnate and you have to raise the bastard son
People are buttholes and lack empathy. What you described is not only true to fitness but for everything else as well.
>complain about literally anything to a boomer
>"yeah but me at your age i had nothing and i had to suck dicks for money bla bla bla"
Cool, but it doesn't help in the slightest
In the case you describe, there's also a huge bias on the part of boomers, who obviously don't realize that times have changed, and they transpose what they've experienced onto others. Is it that hard for people to understand that their own little case is not representative of the population as a whole?
>Why do people use their own progress as the ultimate reference?
Why wouldn't they?
>Do you think the world revolves around you?
i know so
>Dear Diary (aka IST):
>Today the gym bully asked me why I was so weak after I've been training for two months.
>Why is everyone so mean?
>p.s. I think I'm trans.
Way of the world, OP.
No, people inside the gym do not bully me, people outside (on online platforms) do.
LMAO true
op is gay i bet
Yes I am
Everyone I argue with on this website is stronger than me, taller than me, has a bigger wiener than me, has more money than me and has fricked more girls than me.
Very curious.
yes welcome to the interwebs
reminder that this guy benches like 250lbs for a 1 rep max
Considering how weak his chest is compared to his arms and shoulders I believe it. Guy minmaxxed for his limbs
he has bad insertions stop being a bully.
what are you reminding me of? His chest looks like someone whk would bench 250lbs. I love it when people bring vompletely irrelevant variables to the equation. Its like when discussing how much someone squats and then you mention something sbout the size of his arms.
>small pecs
Yup. I can believe that. His BP is probably all triceps at this point.
You're on a board full of moronic buttholes and incels. What do you expect?
People with good genetics are legit social morons, it's why chads always say shit like "just talk to her bro, works for me"
In person, it's a way to talk about a shared hobby. Here, it's probably demoralizing homosexuals trying to make everyone give up or toast their organs blasting all the roids they can find.
I do not see why talking that way IRL would be different and would imply different intention from the speaker than talking that way online
Maybe you need to fix your progression scheme, diet, and sleep if you aren't keeping up.
I'm making progress but much slower than what people claim having