There's a chance that the grass fed milk and beef that you buy eats red clover which contains huge amounts of isoflavones.
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phytoestrogens are everywhere
Only incels and DYELs care about plant estrogens that are 100 million times weaker than mammal estrogen. Same people will tell you cholesterol has no effect but somehow other hormones make it past your stomach acid. Literal morons.
Wew soi shills are really mad today. They got called out in the other thread and now are making another one. Go buy a fricking ad you cheapskates
No I will not eat your ultra processed soi products.
No they will not replace meat around the world.
I will fight to have them labeled properly as endocrine disruptors and protect the health of my people.
Nah you'll be fine.
>1986
Yeah I doubt this is accurate.
What has changed about measuring methods since then?
First off the food is 10 times more pozzed
I worked in the industry, if I wouldn't mourn nature and animals I would say nuclear war would be an option
Cows weren't fed onions and grains back then.
Nowadays "grass fed" cows eat red clover which doesn't occur in such quantities in nature.
The chart also includes data from 2002 and 2003, but whatever.
>cows weren't fed grains
>in the 1980s
You aren't one of those zoomers who think the 1980s were the same as the 1920s are you? So many idiot zoomers think any year before they were born may as well been a century ago.
Dude I'm a millenial, born in the 80s. Believe me things are way different, very very different.
Not even.
but estradiol is way more potent than isoflavones. you can't directly compare their behavior in the body, as they act differently.
isoflavones mainly bind estrogen receptor beta whereas the estrogen receptor alpha is the main feminizing receptor which is what human estrogen potently binds to.
Also, isoflavones behave more like a SERM, so they could actually boost testosterone by blocking the more potent estrogen from getting to the estrogen receptor, just like clomid and tamoxifen (nolvadex).
Basically, that table is a fearporn for midwits.
You use a lot of big words I don't know much about, but in doubt I'm still not going to eat soya, and I'm going to eat meat.
It worked fine for my ancestors.
>You use a lot of big words I don't know much about, but in doubt I'm still not going to eat soya, and I'm going to eat meat.
he really doesnt. lurk for a year or 2 and you'll know every single word he uses, also google dunning-kruger effect
>he really doesnt.
I do. People who think phytoestrogens are the same as mammalian estrogen are suffering from dunning kruger effect
>People who think phytoestrogens are the same as mammalian estrogen are suffering from dunning kruger effect
that was my point my dude. fit really should have namecodes
I'm not telling you to eat them, I don't.
Turkesterone and ecdysterones (supposed anabolic muscle builders) also work principally by binding to the estrogen receptor beta receptor.
Onions likely has similar anabolic effects in muscle due to ER-b binding. But it's probably very small.
Basically, it's more complicated than you think.
>phytoestrogens
Is not what you think it is.
Soi contains more isoflavones than any other food. Are you eating 1000 kg of clover daily? No? Then you're not eating as much estrogen as a single soi bean
Red clover used to be used to give women abortions.
Europe was white in the 2000s
Tell me again how 1980 is basically the same as 2023 while my phone spies on me
>factory farming totally didn't exist in the 1980s!!
Look into garbage feeding you absolute moron. Grocery store meat taste like poison nowadays