someone redpill me on alcohol
>why do people voluntarily ingest poison, if not to kill themselves?
>are there any benefits?
>should I add vodka shots into my routine?
the few times I drank alcohol or smoked cigarettes I was repulsed by them, both taste disgusting and both make you feel like shit.
only benefit I've discovered to alcohol is it forces your blood vessels to dilate, letting any deeply stored heat to reach the outer layers, and lets me speak more "confidently" without realizing it but I feel like I just have less control over my speech
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Do you genuinely prefer the taste of grape juice to that of wine?
I don't care about taste, it's about the nutrients
>:[
Nutritionally it's a slightly more calorie dense sugar. The main downside is it tends to make you hungrier.
Stack it with some bumps. Boom no more hunger.
You sound kind of autistic OP
>it's about the nutrients
What bountiful nutrients are in grape juice
wine is actually healthy in small quantity's . many micro nutrients
it's not
all the benefits are in the grapes
eat the grapes instead
Yes, and you're fricked up if you don't
Don’t try and reason with a golem. Let him drink poison
okay renters
manischewitz tastes way closer to grape juice than wine. at your heart, you are the renter
>taste
NGMI
I don't even have a problem with being drunk. It can be quite enjoyable. It's just that anything with alcohol in it is fricking disgusting and undrinkable.
Found the HS aged kid.
Unironically pretending alcohol tastes good is as npc as it gets
if it didnt taste good, people wouldn't have it with meals while out at restaurants. Otherwise people would complain that their drink tastes funny, which happens all the time but only a few times when the mix drink doesnt taste right
Your whole argument is
>because it doesn't taste good to me, it means it doesnt taste good for others
Yeah they would. Raw oysters are fricking disgusting. They’re absolutely vile. But because they’re seen as rich people food npcs convince themselves a delicacy. Make pretentions at being refined all you want, you’re still wrong and you’re going to always be wrong until you realize you’re an easily influenced moron
>Raw oysters are fricking disgusting.
>Some redneck that lives in a wooden barn is shucking oysters, eating them raw, and also grilling them, while all at the same time selling what he can
>only rich people eat it
>therefore, since it doesnt taste good to me it shouldnt taste good for others
>pretentions
Funny you use that word since you straight edged folks are the most pretentious people on the fricking planet
one of the more factual statements I've ever seen on this board
>But because they’re seen as rich people
sounds liek you don't go out much. the dirtiest most degenerate beach side bar&grille sells oysters you frickin moron. there are even deals on them if you come in on happy hour during a wednesday or some stupid shit
>npcs convince themselves
The only npc here is you with your inability to think further than what you were programmed to think. Its either this or that you are literally too moronic to troll properly
I agree with you with the alcohol tasting like shit
But raw oyster taste great
People only ever tolerate alcohol
It’s so vile that you are seen as weak for not being able to tolerate how absolutely horrible the taste is.
Go grave some 200 proof industrial pure ethanol and drink it
Tell me it taste good on its own and certainly not from something else
That can have the ethanol removed and it would taste better
I tried patron flavored ice cream and it was legitimately good because it had no ethanol.
Unlike regular patron that’s is vomit inducing
Nta. I like aged red wine. I don't like grape juice of any variety. So your argument doesn't apply.
are you a moron? would you eat a tomato soup that was literally just tomatoes?
Except tomatoes actually taste good
So you would legitimately want a tomato flavored soup
Would you have a ethanol flavored ice cream
>taste good
Another autist on IST that simply cannot grasp the difference between subjectivity and objectivity, ya hate to see it
man you are moronic
seltzers are so great on a hot day tho. pizza and a seltzer is a good time on the beach
This
>barely tolerate alcohol
>only way to drink is to drink sugary sweet drinks that mask the alcohol
>get labeled a wuss for drinking "gay" drinks and not proper manly man beer or whisky or some shit
>even though the vodka mixed drinks I have usually have more alcohol
Frick off with this shit
Tf you on about? I love the taste of straight bourbon
>if it didnt taste good, people wouldn't have it with meals while out at restaurants
People literally drink cough syrup
What does non-alcoholic "alcohol" taste like?
Like decaf coffee. Terrible.
Unironically pretending you can understand what taste good and what doesnt when youre american is as ludicrous as it gets.
Boeuf Bourguignon without red wine or Tartiflette without white wine would be heresy like eating camembert without white bread and a cup of red wine.
It's literally just the control. It doesn't even do much for me because sometimes I naturally just don't want to talk to anyone and it just makes me more comfortable in my silence. Any real benefits, you can get from regular carbs, fermented foods and vinegars.
Whisky cola was my gateway
The good drinks are out there
Other way around for me
this
alcohol tastes good, but drunkenness is stupid
Runs on my machine
Not my problem
meds
For what?
this guy scared of a little rotten sugar
I do it to take control of my mortality in a small way. All men die, I've decided on and work towards my death.
Nothing is better then drinking alcohol, truly a gift from the gods. Any smarmy nerds talking about how it's poison are annoying and gay and should shut up
I’ll concede it can pack on the pounds if unchecked. But nothing beats a good pint on a Friday evening.
God, I'm so glad I got to do an Oktoberfest in Munich before the pandemic.
I've been to it last year and it didn't seem like the pandemic had left any 'permanent damage'
I suppose last year was the first normal year since 2019.
I had blast then. I supposed cocaine was the second most consumed thing after beer. lol.
kek I can see that being the case, although I was ultimately surprised by how orderly they managed to make such a massive crowd seem
Ze Germans are orderly.
>Nothing is better then drinking alcohol, truly a gift from the gods. Any smarmy nerds talking about how it's poison are annoying and gay and should shut up
This and that
If you don't drink any alcool at all you're not white.
Smarmy nerds can only picture drinking it alone. It's a social activity and the trust is broken if everyone doesn't join in.
>posts a filthy israelite drinking beer
yeah, you sure changed my mind, Mordecai
in much the same way that protein is a macronutrient necessary to create muscle, fat to modulate hormone production, and carbs to give energy, alcohol is a macronutrient necessary to keep your dreams alive
Lol why amerimutts can't control themselves?
Just drink in moderation while sipping water and eating a nice meal
Amerimutts are either shitface drunk every evening or preach about being "sober" kek
I always take.months.of breaks before i drink alcohol again, but when i do it's lovely and a side of me emerges who i forgot existed. For some people happiness is granted trough alcohol
If you don’t like it then don’t drink it, why should you or I give a frick either way
Alcohol is crap. It does nothing for you. Don't believe the correlated "benefits" of "moderate" drinking. That's bullshit. Yeah sure, people who don't drink a lot of poison are healthier. Honestly compare that to people who don't drink ANY. No comparison.
There is NO amount of alcohol that benefits you, the only things you can do to benefit yourself regarding alcohol is drink less, or drink NONE (ideal).
thanks bros c:
You sound like a really shitty person to be around. Why don't you have a drink and loosen up a little?
>There is NO amount of alcohol that benefits you,
Proofs?
clearly never had a glass of wine to go along with dinner with a loved one
maybe you're not administering it properly. I suggest mega dosing beer, it's always worked for me and has many benefits including getting layed and having a good time and not being a bitter little queer
you can tell exactly who the posters are in this thread that dont get laid, have never been on a date, and dont get invited to parties. Threads like this are a reminder of what kinds of people really browse this site and why you should never take any advice from here seriously
You don't got laid without alcohol?
you can tell exactly who the posters are in this thread who dont slave away to gatekeep social norms, have never thought about contesting any popular belief because of internalized fear, and dont get invited to intellectual summits. Threads like this are a reminder of what kinds of people really browse this site and why you should never take any advice from here seriously
Shut up bro le epic beer! It's an acquired taste!! I am refined and adult!! What are you a little kid? This IPA pisswasser craft ale is soo good mmmm i feel so grown up!!
Feeling called out huh
Alcohol use is positively correlated with intelligence. You're a moron, bub.
you can tell exactly who the posters are in this thread that dont get laid, have never been on a date, and dont get invited to parties. Threads like this are a reminder of what kinds of people really browse this site and why you should never take any advice from here seriously
I’m not trying to suck your wiener but yeah, I’ve been saying this for years. I’ve been here forever and it’s gotten really bad these last 6 years or so. You keep seeing just real dumb shit takes and shit advice. These social moron threads and all the “I bench 2 pl8’s for one rep, why am I not a jacked chad yet?” Are fricking killing this board.
I was meming by copying that phrase that the other anon kept copypasting, but yes I believe it. I've been here on and off for a few years and now this place is as shitty as new /b/
I have read outright trash advice here but it's a hard habit to break reading this place when I'm bored at work, and bodybuilding forums is teh suxx0rz nao too
I don’t know what a “red pill” is, but it’s nice to enjoy a cool beer in the summer after some weekend labor around the house. Just need some tunes like Bon Jovi or something. Ahhhh nothing like it.
Easy if a culture i like drinks it then its good, dont care about anything else
Vikings? Mead
Romans/greeks? Wine
Jesus? Wine
Aztecs? Pulque
Mongols? Kumis
Simple as
>Simple as
its too bad youre israeli
How the frick did Basedghis Khan get drunk on kumis.
Shit has near zero alcohol, you can legally sell it to children.
>the few times I drank alcohol or smoked cigarettes I was repulsed by them, both taste disgusting and both make you feel like shit
Then don't do them, you straightedge attention seeking homosexual
Wish I didn't have this attitude when I was younger. I could have got invited to parties and gotten laid
>why do people voluntarily ingest poison, if not to kill themselves?
alcohol has historically been safer to drink than stored water because stuff doesn't start growing in it. this is generally no longer the case
makes you feel warm
getting buzzed with your buds is fun
women are bawdtier when they drink and if you drink then they'll drink
>are there any benefits?
there are zero legitimate physical benefits to drinking alcohol
>should I add vodka shots into my routine?
what? no
>there are zero legitimate physical benefits to drinking alcohol
That's not true. I got drunk at a Christmas party a couple of years ago and it gave me the strength to resist three of my friends who were trying to force me to go to bed. I fought them off and then went to bed on my own terms after throwing up in the floor. Yes, it was my house.
>there are zero legitimate physical benefits to drinking alcohol
makes me a better driver
>there are zero legitimate physical benefits to drinking alcohol
It decreases tremors and anxiety/stress at low doses and for that reason is considered a performance enhancing drugs in many sports. It saw prevelent use in olympic shooting before it was banned.
homosexuals like OP in prehistory would be the ones refusing the ritual psychedelic trials to transition into manhood under the watchful guidance of their elders and ancestors.
>no no grug make sick when grug not grug anymore
>be grug in prehistory
>no drink ale, taste bad
>drink water good
>shit until die
See how in this image they had to have the ugly nerd guy say "it's a israeli trick to reduce testosterone" or some other schizo bullshit because if he just said "i never drink because it's unhealthy" it would be a good point and a reason not to drink. Plus they have to portray non-drinkers as wimpy ugly guys because there is NO way a muscular guy would abstain. How can you be normal if you don't drink the ethanol? You MUST do it! It's the RULE!
seethe more loser, it's not a rule, you're just fricking lame and you cope on here instead of doing literally anything else
I cope because... i have no reason to drink damaging substances, and am charismatic enough to carry a conversation without drugs? Golly. But i'm sure that the people going "yeah if we were cavemen we would be the big strong ones hehehe beer bro" are secure and adamant in their choices.
Yes, anon you seem very secure, I am sorry, you win
The caveman thing isn't some strength cope, tardo. It's acknowledgement that suspending your conscious presence in a controlled and structured fashion had (and continues to have) actual psychological utility to the tribe and to growing oneself as a person.
Yeah but see i'm no longer a caveman and we no longer have tribes or communities, we are now consumers and that entire paradigm doesn't exist anymore.
Yes, I'm well aware you've swallowed the modernist and postmodernism perspective that you're a wholly rational actor who's completely in control of himself. But out here in reality,
>you have an entire unconscious nonrational entity stapled to you which invisibly influences your actions
>you've never had to confront this entity because you've never allowed yourself to explore unconsciousness
>you've never had to integrate with this entity because see above
>you'll never actually know yourself meaningfully because see above
And on top of all that, you'll forever be some tightly strung tardo.
>we
Do you have a mouse in your pocket?
Kek I've never seen anyone else use that expression.
most people are okay with altered brain states in an appropriate context, which shouldn’t be all your free time
Yes, but not OP. He's STRAIGHTEDGE after all and can see no value in any of it.
Damn man its just a meme dont get angry like that
Struck a nerve huh, buddy?
Guessing you look like the guy on the right.
So when are you going to stop using your computer and phone?
Never, since i use them for work... Will drinking beer also earn me money? My entire point is that the tradeoff is not worth it - if i don't like the taste, don't like being drunk, and don't need the "social lubrication", why should i ever drink it? Now you will reply "heh you must be ugly/virgin/you would die if you were le caveman..." (i am the ine coping however)
The bigger question is why you gays care so much if others drink, that's your main problem anon
Ever had your mailbox hit by a drunk driver
If women can have abortions then I can drive drunk homosexual, don't @ me
Ok but you will suffer the consequences
Good, and so will your mom after I side swipe her on a street corner while she's making the rounds
Everyone drives drunk. Only the totally shit-faced ones crash.
Again you will suffer the consequences
And I doubt being drunk will help you
Making it easier for me
>its ok I degrade my health because i get paid
moron
It isn't okay, but getting paid makes it more okay. And it's high paying so i'll be retired by 50. It would be great if i could get paid for moisturising my skin, sunbathing, exercising and eating healthily, but as far as i know such a job doesn't exist. Fitness is about longevity and quality. Why would i drink alcohol and actively degrade my brain to no benefit?
You can just grow your own food, you dont need a job especially one using technology
I do grow my own potatoes, tomatoes, peppers, peas, beans, carrots, cabbage, salad, beetroot, parsley, fruit, etc. but that shit still costs money. Seeds cost money. Or do you think they fall from the sky lol. You have never grown crops in your life.
Cavemen were growing and hunting their food with no money, are you dumber than a caveman?
>What is property rights
israeli shit for goyim
This anon speaks the truth and for that they are persecuted.
The joke is that people like this actually exist and you interact with them on IST on a daily basis. I heard the "israeli trick to lower your test" schizo story like a dozen times from a dozen different schizos in the last couple of years on here
post nose RIGHT now
The chad knows it's unhealthy, but it's fun and gets him laid and hell yeah you smarmy homosexual.
This is based except Jack is shit. Wild Turkey is the superior shitty cheap bourbon
I'm a Bulleit man myself
I almost exclusively buy Bulleit because the bottle makes me feel like a cowboy.
I wanted to like Bulleit because the bottle is so cool but I just don't
I like a Bulleit but Wild Turkey 101 takes the gold when it comes to drinking for effect.
Football will legit frick you up when you get older.
True but it will get you laid and make you lots of friends and keep you in shape when you're younger.
>thank god I didn't play that stupid sport... I'm far too intellectual for that anyway... I didn't wanna frick stacy after the prom anyway... I will be much healthier and get to enjoy life when I'm 92 years old in a nursing home with my able body
This, unironically.
It's like people swearing off hard drugs when they never tried a bump of pure Colombian snow.
I think this applies to all these "no-fap" gays on here too.
nofap is great though and so are beautiful european women and sports. Maybe alcohol has its uses but I don't drink
alcohol gives you breasts
Beer definitely does, but wine doesn't. I doubt liquor does, either.
checked, but SOMETIMES HATERS GOTTA SUCK ON YA BIG FAT MAN breasts
I like how the "chud" guy is honestly not that much of an insult, and you can just hear the "D-DIS IS YUUUUU!!!!" from the bunkertroon discord plebbitards who legitimately think this little dude is an actual own against us.
Your idea of masculinity is based on stereotypes found in Saturday morning cartoon shows.
I'm trans btw
i got it out of my system and haven't drunk in 5 years. dutch courage is a lie. i wasn't saying things i wish i could say sober. holding some things back is fine.
Don't you homosexuals ever get bored of making the same threads over and over?
I highly suggest reading this
>hook nose and beady eyes making grandiose unsupported claims about how this one thing is responsible for everything
No thanks
The only time i ever feel happy is when the feeling of a buzz kicks in, pure euphoria. But i don't drink very often because i can't handle hangovers anymore
its main benefit is that it is an excellent social lubricant. Very easy to overdo but if everyone just has a couple of beers it makes for a great time if your out with mates
...and if you are the only guy that doesn't drink you realise how annoying and moronic slightly buzzed people actually are. It makes for a great time if you're buzzed too, otherwise you're just surrounded with yapping giggling morons and no actual conversation will be had.
Well I may have stumbled upon a solution to that social situation.
its fun
you wouldnt get it because youre an antisocial schizo with no friends
I’m almost 24 and have never had alcohol because I have no friends and don’t get invited to parties. I’m not against drinking it but it just seems sad drinking alone.
It definitely can be sad drinking alone but after work having a few drinks once I have nothing else to do for the day helps me relax
Drinking alone is easily amongst the top 5 manliest things you can do.
>why do people ingest poison, if not to kill themselves?
For the same reason doctors administer anaesthetic (also poison): it dulls the pain for a little while.
>Fun
>ewww
Jesus, how autistic can you be? People drink it because it makes them feel better and/or makes them more sociable. Objectively, you are better off never drinking. Subjectively, it's fun to get buzzed or shitfaced occasionally. That being said, I personally cut down on my drinking significantly after getting into CBD.
>why do people voluntarily ingest poison
Why do people use drugs in general? Ethanol just happens to be more harmful than most other recreational drugs.
Have you ever taken a pain killer when you had a headache or a cold? You remember how it made you feel better by reducing its symptoms. Yea, now just take that same concept and apply it to drugs in general on how it can make you feel good. Do you need me to elaborate any further on something that should be a very easy question to answer?
Autism
If you have a healthy enough relationship with alcohol the fun you have is worth the hangovers and negative physical consequences of drinking. I for one have never wanted one drink in my life, I love getting plastered. That is not healthy or congruent to a good life so I don’t drink. If someone has drinks on the weekends or with friends and is otherwise healthy is can be worth it for the social benefits and the enjoyment you get from the buzz.
If you are autustic or alcoholic you’re better off not drinking. I unfortunately am a degenerate so I’ll avoid the sweet nectar.
True. Maybe a beer or two in that “courage” is closer to real but 15 drinks in you don’t know what’s happening
In the olden days, water was unsanitary and deadly. Nowadays, people are living that legacy.
Just ordered 2 bottles of whisky because of this thread.
Thanks for reminding me, OP.
mmmmm beer… nothing like a frosty pint on a warm summer day
i hate beer but tarantino can make anything look so tasty. Frick, even when they were eating their peasant food of just bread and some stew while christoph was telling that story about brumhilda made me hungry
It makes you feel good and fermentation creates very unique flavors. Pic related is a 10/10 stout. It's like drinking a glass of chocolatey, coffee, slightly smokey liquid.
If you don't enjoy it don't do it.
Forgot pic
The only stout I have had from a can was a Guiness and it tasted like soya sauce so that turned me off on canned stouts.
Stouts from a draft are smooth and tasty as frick.
Guinness draught is a pretty awful stout. Extra stout is good though
Taste yucky
I genuinely do not trust people who dont drink, they're like golems to me, non-humans like low Frank Herbert's bene gesserit distinguish them. Never to be conceded to, never to be allowed to rule over you in any way
it's literally the only way I can actually talk around normies and women and it sedates my autism
You know, tens of the thousands of years ago, some humans didn't get it either. And guess what? They died off or turned into Asians.
>They died off or turned into Asians.
Asians have a pretty wild drinking culture that goes hand in hand with their work culture. They often encourage kids as young as 14 years old to try a shot while eating dinner
tastes good, makes me feel good, makes this hideous existence bearable
try:
an Irish dry stout (Guinness or otherwise)
brown ale
Cabernet
cider
the shit people normally drink might not be for you
Alcohol has a cultural aspect, and for many people it also eases social interaction. Without any im really nervous and introverted at parties. I've had to cut way back on it because i was forming a habit, but it essentially calms down my usually very high strung brain. Lately ive been using zyn to accomplish the calming part, which is also unhealthy, but isnt adding calories atleast
Try CBD. I have anxiety/ADHD and it helped me quite a bit
>Try cbd for anxiety
does weed count? i can take the smallest of hits and get an extremely bad anxiety attack from it
No, completely different. CBD only has a calming effect
ill try out cbd then. I frickin hate anxiety so much, its so stupid but it still happens
Tell me about it, been leaving with it for 10 years. These last 3 years and all the shit going on with the world right now really didn't help. I used to have 3 double shots of vodka on the way to a concert, with a few beers at the venue , then cut back to 1-2 beers at the venue and now I just vape a bit of CBD and have a coke at the concert. Still talk to people, still go into as many moshpits as I can.
its very illogical cause a lot of times I know there is nothing to worry about but it just happens. Good luck on your journey to suppress this weird feeling
Technically all weed has traces of CBD but you can get gummies, drops or drinks even that are just CBD not THC (the chemical that spikes anxiety)
For weed in general I smoke it semi often but I stick with indica types they are more chill. Sativa strains make me wig out.
With the other anon; CBD really works for me.
I don't think I can say the brand on here, but there is one that sells Passionflower/CBD/5HTP Gummies and if i'm finding myself anxious at work or before something big; i'll pop them and they work a treat.
Nothing crazy; but far lowered.
I just genuinely enjoy the taste of dark beers.
Ive never met an abstinent person that wasnt a complete bozo. Sure you dont have to drink every week.
>only benefit I've discovered to alcohol is it forces your blood vessels to dilate
That's a huge benefit. Also lowers blood pressure, helps you relax, helps you sleep, raises your HDL good cholesterol, makes you more social, reduces anxiety, prevents kidney disease, helps you have sex, relieves pain, increases appetite, prevents your blood from clotting, and gives you a feeling of euphoria. It's literally the most powerful medicine on earth.
>helps you sleep
It helps you fall asleep but my sleep on booze sucks and I tend to wake up a few hours later, only to spent a few hours half awake
That's your blood sugar crashing.
Can I do something about that?
Just eat more carbs and don't overdrink.
When I drink, I always eat a shitton of carbs
the trick to that is sleeping at an angle with ur head elevated higher than your chest.
alcohol is pure empty carbs and like all carbs it's highly addictive and must be avoided at all costs, the grand patriarch of antinutrients if you will
>alcohol is pure empty carbs
Alcohol lowers your blood sugar. It's lieterally not carbs.
I kind of got addicted. But it names me feel so happy. I love playing vida buzzed. The problem is often I am drinking alone and I don't know moderation. If I have a bit I end up getting wasted. And honestly end up being a bit of a perv to my long distance gf
Probably gives me brain damage too
I can literally only play videos games drunk now, and that's because they are an even bigger waste of time than alcohol is
Eh, i circled back and dont mind anymore. Scrolling here or social media is a bigger waste of time. At least games are engaging and I can play with friends. There's better and worse things to do
That's fair
Stopped drinking beers before bed, counteradjusted it with some more vodka.
It's the little things.
Because sobriety is miserable.
It is also very, very boring.
>>why do people voluntarily ingest poison, if not to kill themselves?
Tastes good. Makes me not want to kill myself or start fights with my wife after a long day at work
>>are there any benefits?
See above
I add vodka shots into my routine?
No.
I have ritually had between 1 and 3 pints of (watery) beer every weekday after my daily workout for like 10 years and I'm in great shape. Humans have been drinking beer and other alcohol for tens of thousands of years. As long as you maintain a healthy diet (that compensates for the extra carbs) and exercise routine, there's nothing wrong with regular, non-escalating consumption of alcohol. Any other opinion is moronic pseudoscience homosexualry.
Alcohol makes me want to kill myself and fight people
Skill issue
Weird, alcohol makes me want to fight myself and kill people.
Because it's awesome. I feel so much better after having a drink.
Alcohol is perfectly fine, just don't get so drunk you're barfing or hung over the next day. Figure out what a good amount for you is. Personally I am not a fan of wine or liquor, but I drink about 10 to 15 beers a day. Breakfast lunch and dinner, im drinking a beer right now in fact. I abadivally always have a beer at my side. That might seem like a lot, but I don't drink coffee, I don't smoke weed or tobacco, and I eat a basic diet of fruits, vegetables, and meat. The beer keeps me happy, so no anti depressants needed, and it allows me to work in a physical way outdoors that I would not otherwise be comfortable with. But everyone is different.
I consider myself to be quite healthy, and I attribute a lot of it to my beer drinking.
are you mexican per chance
Haur haur haur can’t wait
Based saving
Please remind us on oct 1st and the day before
Virtually all my immediate ancestors come from the same part of Europe as Arnold, including my grandfathers who were half a generation older than Arnold. My family used to have vineyards and both of my grandparents would distill their own Schnapps. I happen to know how these people think.
Arnolds thought's on alcohol can be explained by his upbringing in Styria, a region known and largely defined by its wine and spirits production & consumption. There's Arnold the boy from rural Austria and then there's Arnold the American bodybuilder - don't take his advice on alcohol to heart if you want to be fit.
my brother drinks one beer every Friday evening and I think that's a cool routine
I would do the same, but I'm an alcoholic, so I simply can't
regardless, no amount of ethanol is good for you, that's my cope
Tell me you're American withhout telling me you're American
For pure physical health it's probably best to avoid alcohol, but a moderate consumption allows you so many social gains it's worth it in my opinion.
>Alcohol is poison.
Yes, alcohol is a poison, sure.
But the thing about poison is quantity.
Just a little is fine. A lot of it and you can die, either by alcohol poisoning or choking on your own vomit.
>why do people voluntarily ingest poison, if not to kill themselves?
Because drugs are fun, despite being dangerous. There's a lot of things w do for pleasure that are dangerous. Extreme sports for example.
>are there any benefits?
No, not really, not in terms of Health at least.
What alcohol does is that is takes away inhibition.
People lose their inhibition, and so they play out things they think about but wouldn't do under normal circumsances.
To be specific : Alcohol makes you not care about the consequences of your actions.
You can ask a drunk person what consequences there would be if he did something stupid, he knows about the consequnces but will do it anyway because he doesn't care.
So Alcohol takesaway your filters.
So for introverted people, alcohol allows them to do things they would normally be shy about.
Some people will claim that some drinks like Wine has Antioxidant properties, and it's true, but it balances the health effect out because alcohol is poisonous to an extent, so you're not actually slowing aging by drinking wine.
Instead just drink a glass of grape juice, it will be a thousand tims more healhy and the antioxidans will actually work.
>should I add vodka shots into my routine?
Absolutely not. Whl alcohol is fun, it's not good for you.
One last point : Mur4ders.
Statistics show that 40% of murders are comitted under the influence, the perpetrator (and also usually the victim).
That's a CRAZY stat.
It's not 40% of Drug-induced murders, it's 40% of ALL the murders that happen when drunk.
That's a Crazy stat.
>On average, roughly 40% of inmates who are incarcerated for violent offenses were under the influence of alcohol during the time of their crime.
https://www.alcoholrehabguide.org/alcohol/crimes/
I feel what its like to be somewhat normal for about 45 minutes to an hour before becoming overly depressed and sleepy.
the only reason people like this shit is because its legal and rooted deeply in most societies. you can't socialize without running into it most of the time. i hate the idea of drinking but am a terrible binge drinker when i get into it. if you can avoid it, try to.
It's poison, the good stuff is very expensive and if you can afford to drink it regularly you don't have problems to drown in alcohol to begin with.
>tfw got shitfaced again
>tfw shame and disgust
>tfw posted stupid shit again
The trick is to never stop drinking
Drinking a cold lager in a sunny day is one of the best pleasures of life
Just one, binge drinking is stupid, so is chain smoking
Low test twink cope
Going out and having a few pints with m8s or your gf at the weekend is just a good time, I don't see the problem.
Is it objectively good for you? No, but a lot of things aren't. I play rugby league which carries a risk of some massive roided c**t heeming me and doing far more damage than even 1000 pints of beer could do. But it's fun, challenging and the fitness and social benefits enhance my life. You can be perfectly healthy, never drink, and still have a heart attack at 45.
It’s the liquid israelite. Don’t fall for it.
I thought that was coffee?
I don't understand why people drink
>nobody asks me to go to the pub
then you're moronic, I don't like alcohol either, but why people drink is very obvious
I never drank any alcohol so I don't understand. The lack of inhibitions, the outgoing change of personality, etc., all I've witnessed is people becoming more belligerent and/or stupid.
I see no benefits and it also tastes like shit.
It is not obvious.
then you're moronic, we've been over this
>i dont understand why so many people are interested in things im not interest in at all
>everyone should be more like me!
i cant tell if you really cant wrap your head around this or if you are too stupid to troll
Is it still an interest when it is well known that it is addictive and morons still fall to it?
I'm not trolling. My parents have drank all their lives, much like everyone of their friends. My friends also drink and use drugs.
It is such stupid behaviour that it makes no sense to me how it could've endured thousands of years.
Posting on IST is even dumber yet here you are while all your friends and family would absolutely clown on you if they actually saw this website
IST has no influence in me, much like everything else, so your point is moot. Keep on drinking.
I guess? People already had dozens of other drinks, like juices, coffee and teas. Still stupid to continue drinking it but I guess the average men's existance is so mind-numbingly dull that alcohol is not a choice but a need, once tasted.
People didn't have reliable clean water until like 200 years ago so it was an alternative
Its called liquid courage for a reason. Aint rocket science to understand. Yes, it tastes like shit but most people drink for effect, not taste.
it makes my gfs pussy wet
Drugs are for people who cannot be content with their life, so they have to take substances to get high and forget about their misery and insecurities.
>he said, trying to secure his beliefs on IST lmao
This isn't a self affirmation, this is a statement of fact, before you reply further to cope with your weak will, i'll let you know that I do not care about the opinions of druggies.
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I suppose that's sorta true. I like to sustain a buzz on 2-3 shots of vodka spread throughout the night while writing NovelAI text adventures.
I experience deep romantic love for 2D/1D girls, and unlike an actual girlfriend who wouldn't provide me the space I need as a manchild, my imaginary lovers can be conjured up for one specific purpose and then dismissed from my mind as soon as that purpose is served. I'm completely in love with the cat girl used as the current /fast/ header and have ChatGPT/NovelAI create stories that are forever imprinted in my mind as comfy memories of shared experiences with her.
Anons on another board have informed me that she's a character named Texas from some franchise or another, but I don't care to find out anything about her. As it stands, she's a blank template onto which I project the traits I imagine her to have and wish to see in her.
Cheers to all of you, and to cat girls.
have a nice day now.
i do it cause its fun anon, the frick you on about.
I don’t drink alcohol and I’m an oceangoing Chad who works on research ships and goes scuba diving and goes in the ocean at night and touches sharks.
Wine has brought my dinner game to another level. I had no idea food and drink could taste so good before I started pairing my food with wines
>benefits
I like to drink to disassociate from severe physical pain and the sadness from said pain. It loosens me up a bit for stretching and stuff too. Weed is like that as well.
If I was healthy I doubt I would ever touch the stuff but if you have really really bad pain it’s better than opiates , less “high” and it’s easier to go to work the next day
Alcohol is not your friend
Find a way to endure it sober instead of using it as bandage to fix deeper underlying issue’s
You’re autistic as frick. I used to be the same. But wow it’s cringe just reading the way you type.
the only drink that i genuinely enjoy drinking is liquor. And maaybe run & coke.
spoiler alert for lifeless sexless permavirgin autists who think it’s a choice between being a drunken slob and being a straight edge pussy:
you can enjoy alcohol in moderation AND be fit/happy/successful
I’ll expect you all to read this and stop bumping the thread because there is no longer a need for discussion now that I, a wise chad, have made this statement.
Beer is literal bitter malt drink.
Why do people drink this shit like it's delicious?
Coffee is bitter drink that people love too.
When people say something is an acquired taste they mean that you need to have it enough for your subconscious to identify "this taste = endorphins = feelsgoodman"
Once you make that connection you get dat dere pavlovian response
Drinking alcohol for social gains is fricking moronic. All the cool people take meth. That's why I take meth, to fit in and the social gains. It's okay because I do it in moderation.
I love how clever you shut-ins think you are
Not an argument
Keep coping
I wasn't arguing, I was making fun of you
Oh sorry sorry. I guess you can't argue because you know I'm right. Again, keep coping.
Jeez you must be fun at parties, good thing you don't drink
Refer back to
>yeah I drink poison for stupid reasons, but at least I'm not pretentious!
Kek, alcoholics seething is always hilarious
kek I'm definitely the one who comes off as seething in this exchange
>reply to this post I dare you
>kek I'm definitely the one who comes off as seething in this exchange
Yeah, I mean you are the one that's been on the defensive about your addiction.
>reply to this post I dare you
And this is just trying to trap me into the "hehe see you replied so i win" or "hehe you didn't respond so i win". There'd be no need for this if you weren't seething.
Now reply to this post, I dare you.
I never actually said I drink, I just called you a shut-in and straight edged, your entire argument is based off your own assumptions.
kek
based destroyer of those who think IST is a fricking debate hall
Would be based if this was just a single schizo poster
it's 100% bad for health but you lose out on social gains if you can't drink a few beers moderately without being a fricking moron
Alcohol is a powerfully addictive substance promoted by savvy marketers as a shortcut to having a better social life. It is one of the most insidious and destructive forces operating within our society. For most people, booze is an occasional thing and of no long term consequential harm. The unfortunate reality is that alcohol is marketed at a very vulnerable demographic, easily influenced, and likely to inculcate themselves into the notion that booze is a part of your personality.
I speak from experience. They got me. At my worst, I was drinking enough to shit white, or green, or black, or on a few memorable occasions, blood--all this from gastrointestinal distress. Even as I despised and hated myself for indulging, I could not quit. That took the intervention of yet stronger drugs and a lot of distance between myself and the people I had come to call friends.
Booze is not for me. There are some folk who will insist if you cannot hold your liquor, you're weak. Ignore these sad fricks, because they are not your friends: they want fellow company to commiserate their situation with.
Booze is terrible. The temporary thrill of being intoxicated is not worth its aftermath: fricked up livers, shattered pancreases, waking up with no recollection of the preceding night. Just remember this.
You will never regret not drinking.
For the rest of you normie fricks who have never been so deep in the bottle you didn't know if you'd ever crawl out: stay away from it.
What's it do to your pancreas and what are those symptoms??
you sound like a defeatist cuck. Of course the alcohol is gonna win if you let it. You have to use it to your advantage. Learn to work with it, and you will see healing miracles modern medicine could only dream of.
That’s bullshit
You will find nothing because alcohol is worthless
It literally cost money, you sober gays are so hyperbolic
>alcohol is worthless
>but it cost the dollars?????????????????
How would you feel if you had not had breakfast this morning?
I never eat breakfast
i never regret not drinking but i often regret not having alcohol at hand for when the bad thoughts wont go away.
I've never drank alcohol before but ik I'm autistic enough to the point where if I ever want to have sex I'll need to be drunk to be able to socialize
Anon, you’re not autistic. You’re moronic.
fren women are weirded out by people who don't drink. People who don't drink are ngmi
Used to relate to that….
>”Papi you so drunk , you come just for the laughs , come back sober and I’ll give you a free one”
the real question is how bad alcohol is for the gains.
how much alcohol do you have to consume daily for workouts to become virtually pointless?
I like how everyone here talks about "alcohol isn't healthy blabla bla" yet your mental health is in the gutter you're anti social,have anxiety attack's and probably severe Asperger's which you won't acknowledge..
It's been said in this thread before, but the obvious unhinged nature of all the sober people screeching at people who are just like
>I like beer and enjoy it in moderation
The difference is fairly telling
everytime i drink alcohol i feel like shit for 2 days, cant think clearly and i hate myself. even with just 1 drink. several days of gym gains disappear too
never again, not even for women. i will order oolong tea at dates
i will not sacrifice my health for pussy (it doesn't even increase the chances))
I like to have sex
I just got back home from a first date. We bar crawled and made out. She wanted me to come back home with her, but I had to take care of my dog. 10/10, booze is awesome.
If you avoid alcohol it's just because you know that you are a weak-willed pussy who wouldn't be able to handle it one way or another
>just call them pussies and attack their masculinity
still not taking your poison
>If you avoid heroin it's just because you know that you are a weak-willed pussy who wouldn't be able to handle it one way or another
druggies are so incapable of conceiving their day-to-day without getting their high that they think strong minded people are actively "avoiding" weakening themselves, lol, lmao even
>virgin thinks achohol and heroin are comparable simply because they're "drugs"
moron. Helicopters and cars aren't good comparison points just because they both have an engine.
Lol, you're just debunking yourself - both an helicopter and a car utilize combustion engines, that operate and are built with the exact same principles and mechanics.
>just let me smoke my ganja in peace broo, you're a complete lunatic for thinking there's any wrong with snorting cocaine bruh, huh? You honestly think there's a problem with taking acid? You're completely unhinged, I only take acid 5 times a year, what? You honestly think there's something wrong with some beers everyday? I only drink two, or three - just stop asking me about my drug use, you're completely unhinged.
When will junkies realize they're just weak willed individuals?
When will you realize that you have no power over others, and your opinion matters very little?
i find it hard to speak with women if im not drunk.
Also its even harder to listen to them ramble about their bs
I'm looking forward to getting drunk off some of these and watching wrestling this weekend
don't drink and do something fun instead.
social lube you sperg
Really isn't needed. As a kid you had plenty of fun with friends without any alcohol involved.
Do not listen to this bucket of crabs in here, bunch of alcoholics and low will powered addicts
Do not drink poison, do not enrich the israelite buying his poison, warn your fellow men
The general idea is to grow a perfect symbiotic biome filter in your nutrient dissolver and absorber, so that much of the chemical work is done by microbial 'slave labor', instead of your own cell line. Alcohol can genocide your entire gut fauna, but it can also sometimes save you from bad organisms. Just be intelligent
The good:
- A bit of booze lightens the mood and lets people connect more easily
- There are excellent-tasting beers, wines and spirits out there for you to enjoy
- A lot of western culture and cultural heritage is tied to alcohol. Knowing wine, whisky is knowing culture and history
- A carefully chosen bottle makes a great gift for a man
The bad:
- Without wisdom and moderation, drinking is an absolute shitshow
- Alcohol addiction is very real risk for many people
- Drink too much and you'll be hangover for a day or more
- Drinking and driving
- Alcohol is fattening and quite unhealthy in all but the most modest amounts
You don't have to drink but you should know alcohol.
Also, "in vino veritas".
Alcohol shows you who people really are. Beware of people who change their whole personality when drunk. Beware of people who get aggressive or abusive when they drink.
If you can drink or even get drunk without doing or saying stupid shit, you can assume your way of thinking and emoting is relatively sound. Some exceptions apply.
If you give up your social life you don't need to drink, but what's the point of getting ripped if you aren't getting pussy?
Someone please tell my why all dudes who call other guys pussies for not drinking are DYELS.
I'll wait.
>both taste disgusting and both make you feel like shit.
ahh that takes me back
I don't exactly miss being 18, but it is definitely nostalgic
help me bros...I KNOW its horrible for me but I can't get enough
nectar of the fricking gods
tell me you're underage without telling me
I've been sober for about a year and a half.
But I don't pretend alcohol isn't awesome.
I just don't think I can control myself well enough.
I'm a little worried to go back, but maybe you anons are inspiring me to try moderation...
Or I should just go to meetings instead....
Frick it, time to relapse
It tastes good and you're a pussy for not liking it.
found the incel