It's funny just how wrong you are. Being on heroin every day kills all interest in porn. You could replace your porn addiction with a heroin addiction tomorrow and never watch porn again. What makes porn addiction so pernicious is the ease of access, but in currentyear you can buy heroin online, so heroin is still worse.
You are a dumb fricking Black person.
The whole point of a heroin addiction is that you will always remember how heroin felt and nothing will ever come close to it
It depends. I personally can't remember every actress I've ever watched when I was watching porn. The industry rotates young girls like you wouldn't believe. You only remember actresses that you've gotten the biggest dopamine rush from or watched plenty of times. My go tos before I got addicted to incest porn were usually Lisa Ann, Janet Mason (never watched her interracial stuff just felt weird), and Monique Alexander. Those are the only 3 that I can remember honestly. My go to for step mom incest was Cory Chase. But honestly, I've been porn free for almost 4 years now, and I forget a lot of the names. I still get some porn flashes here and there, but I've forgotten the actresses and don't really care to look them up.
Trust the science! Try not ejaculating for 1 month. Tell me how you feel afterwards. I have more energy, better interactions with women and social settings in general, my hair is shiner, my voice is deeper. Try it yourself. 1 month.
>better interactions with women
yet you're still an incel.
How come "normies" who have sex and beat off once in a while can already do all of this shit naturally but IST incels have to go weeks without ejaculating in order to carry on a simple conversation?
>yeah bro just jerk your dick bro totally normal and healthy!
You sound like a weirdo
1 month ago
Anonymous
t. 3 years of nofap and still a depressed loser incel with zero social skills and too scared to a look a girl in the eye and say hi >but muh hair is shiny
kek
1 month ago
Anonymous
>yeah bro it's totally normal I jack off every day I can't sleep unless I cum!
Yeah totally normal heh heh I'm gonna jack off tonight heh heh!
You sound like an addict
1 month ago
Anonymous
when did I say anything of the sort?
nofap incels must have been compulsive mon-stop masterbaters since age 8 because they simply cant process the fact that normal people only jack off once or twice a week.
Nofap incels seriously believe that anyone not in their incel cult is jerking off 20x per day or something
To everyone that is reading this, try googling the name of the "expert" that writes this post (david ley). He is a LITERAL cuckold basedboy who writes books on how to get your wife to frick BBC. I'm not even joking.
Also, that study really only shows a correlation where men who have high libido have sex more often AND watch porn more often (because they have a high libido) then men who have a low libido. Oh, what a fricking surprise guys, men who have a higher libido watch porn more often than men with a low libido.... That is the only fricking thing it 'proves', and it says absolutely nothing about the act of consciously abstaining from porn (aka "nofap"/"noporn"). But hey, David Ley the literal cuckold doesn't want you to know that. He just wants to use this study as an excuse to promote cuckold porn, to justify his own cuckold lifestyle.
Again, I am not even saying this as an insult. He is an actual, literal cuckold that tries to make as many other men in the world cuckolds as well. Google his name, and have a laugh. These are the "experts" that are telling you that porn is good.
>men who watch porn are MORE likely to desire marriage
After watching this bruised bawd swallow someone else's pee I really feel like finally settling down.
>manlet israelite spends his whole life writing about and preaching cuckoldry
you can't make this shit up. israelites are always the most ridiculous strawmen, real and in the flesh.
>Until I get pussy I will keep watching it
Biggest lie ever. You can have a wife and still watch porn and jerk off.
t. I have a wife and still watch porn and jerk off.
And yes, it can become a real problem for a couple.
>This is non-empirical ~~*science*~~.
Google the guys name for fun. He is a literal cuckold that writes book in which he tried to convince other men to become cucks as well. These are the experts that are telling you that porn is good for you.
I applaud your honesty on an anonymous pouch-posting pergamino, but I can't wait until you actually get laid and realize all that fapping ruined your sexual stamina and you'll never get laid again
Controlling your base urges is what develops you as a person. I don't understand why you're in this thread. Go jerk your dick bro nobody cares. Why are you trying to convince people to jerk their dicks?
Unironically what happened to me. Watched porn for years, then got a gf and pretty much dropped it altogether. Really the only porn I see is whatever gets posted to IST and other blueboards but it's not like I seek it out or whack it, I just go frick my gf
Im around 2 months in and the only difference I notice is my cooms are more intense using imagination over porn but that was already the case back when I did watch it, maybe it's because I mainly watched vids of girls dancing/movie scenes over ''real'' porn
>when I watched porn and stopped I didn't notice any difference >now, I never actually watched porn, per se, BUT!
of all posts in this thread this is the best, thanks for the laugh.
The mental side is definitely an improvement I feel, the difference is with porn >scroll for anywhere from 10-60 minutes >bust average feeling nut >feel bad because I wasted so much time looking for the thing to cum to
Whereas without porn >finish within 5-10 minutes depending on how I'm feeling >bust pretty good feeling nut >move on without feeling like I wasted time
But no major difference in gains or my success with women
>wasted time
one of the most under mentioned aspect of porn watching. then again that kind of gets into "what is time well spent then" and that's a whole other can of worms.
Oh I have watched/beat my meat to it but it just never did much for me compared to girls solo jerking off or dancing or movie scenes that simulated sex for some reason, I suppose the term is eroticism is more my thing? I think it's why it was easier for me to quit, my ''expectations'' for sex were always quite realistic
No I understand you completely. It's just not the same thing, nor is literature or hentai. Your brain recognizes the latter two as "not people", and for softcore stuff it's still "tasteful", for lack of a better word.
The "not people" means brain regions responsible for "oh person face" don't activate, and as for the "tasteful" thing there's probably a better explanation but I'm far too sleep deprived for brain to work properly. Either way be glad that that's what works for you and not something like "oh man oh frick there's no one around and this cadaver's really doing its best to seduce me, look at there just lying all still and cold FRICK".
I quit for half a year once and then came back. It was a huge difference after all and I wanted more porn like I was a druggie. There's a definite difference
it has, you just havent noticed because its a slow process
Im around 2 months in and the only difference I notice is my cooms are more intense using imagination over porn but that was already the case back when I did watch it, maybe it's because I mainly watched vids of girls dancing/movie scenes over ''real'' porn
I quit for half a year once and then came back. It was a huge difference after all and I wanted more porn like I was a druggie. There's a definite difference
yeah, i lied,
one thing i noticed different is when i jerk it in shower to imaginary white women, that after im done and clean it off the wall I feel a lot better than after watching proon.
after porn i feel slugish and shitty
after shower cum sesh i feel rejuvinated, or if not, then just normal all good, no mental fog
SO all in all yea, watching porn does stuff to your head id rather avoid.
But my muscles didnt grow more bcuz of it, girls dont run pussy first at me, and no CEOs didnt offer me great jobs, so beware what these schizos are yapping, only things you'll do by stopping is have 1 less addiction, save time by not watching porn, and feel mentally a bit better
The mental side is definitely an improvement I feel, the difference is with porn >scroll for anywhere from 10-60 minutes >bust average feeling nut >feel bad because I wasted so much time looking for the thing to cum to
Whereas without porn >finish within 5-10 minutes depending on how I'm feeling >bust pretty good feeling nut >move on without feeling like I wasted time
But no major difference in gains or my success with women
I once didn't jerk off or look at porn accidentally for 8 months. It started because I was super busy for a month straight and just fell out of the habit because I didn't have time for it. Noticed no difference whatsoever. Maybe I'm just built different than most peons.
i don't normally have an urge but whenever i get on tinder or whatever I just have a massive urge to send dick picks and shit idk why i crave their validation of my penis
>Maybe I'm just built different than most peons.
Are you trying to say that you are low T? If I go without porn and ejaculating for 2 weeks I get random boners from smelling female animals in heat.
I got random boners all the time regardless of whether or not I was consuming porn.
You have not gone 2 days without watching porn since you discovered it. You are a liar.
Why so bitter? Get a job that eats up your schedule and you won't have time for porn or jerking off. You'll be tired at the end of every day and when you get in bed you won't even have the energy to handle your boner.
That just means you weren't chosen; it's okay, hylic, we can't all be pneumatics. Same way we need poor people to take out the trash and serve us food.
My results were different. When I stopped watching porn I still craved the female essence. So instead of watching porn I had more confidence to just talk to more girls. Right now I’m texting a girl from my gym that I’ve seen for the last few months who was very attractive but never knew how to talk to. A few weeks ago we made eye contact and smiled so I decided to finally just talk to her and she seemed into me so I got her number, we’re gonna go on a date this weekend.
Idk man, had it not been for cutting out porn I feel like that day we had our first interaction I would have just went home and found a porn girl who looks like her and jerked off. I feel a lot happier without porn.
Nothing is going to change unless you make an effort to change something, it's just that numbing yourself with, alcohol, tobacco or porn makes it more difficult to enact positive change in your life.
i quit for 2 years and a half and a lot changed. i barely notice racebait, i have a healthier sex life, i have more energy and mental clarity. but lately i've been kinda weak and jerked off to some sexy women and softcore since i got a gf and old patterns and yearning for more sex set in. I haven't done it again for a while, but I have moments looking at oglaf or sexy women. the good thing however is that hardcore porn or explicit images actually turn me off, they have been disgusting to me ever since the first few months. i still imagine sex scenes but if i see real people doing it on camera i don't get turned on like i used to but actually repulsed and have to look at something else. i've become really vanilla, but it was nothing but positive on my life.
I watch femdom porn where the girl instructs me to workout (pushups, situps, pullups) in return for some jacking time. Getting progressively harder over time
Did no fap for 3 years and didn't notice much of a difference. The most interesting thing happened on the third year when i woke up in the middle of the night with the most intense urge to fap i have ever felt.
I don't think nofap gives you a positive benefit. It returns you to the baseline of 0 if you are a creature of the abyss stuck at -800. And that can feel like getting superpowers
An alcoholic will benefit from not drinking alcohol, a pornoholic will benefit from not jerking off to porn. If you don't have a problem with porn nofap will do nothing for you.
>put on porn >get hard-ish >start fapping >have to change video >instantly when I pause or change video get soft as frick
I've destroyed my fricking penis bros, is it reversible?
quitting porn will help him but it is absolutely not normal for a young man to just drop erections like that
it's likely a conjunction of porn, diet and sleep habits. The latter 2 often get absolved because people like to shift 100% blame onto porn
Reminder that there isn't a single nofap cultist who has a girlfriend. And they should never get one, because their schizophrenic philosophy implies that stimulating your penis is literally making a pact with the devil.
Normalgays who are actually capable of getting laid don't have time for this kind of mental illness, they don't go believing not touching their penis is going to grant them magical anime powers, and they know the concept of moderation (they don't even have time to fap all day because they actually live life, instead of being a neet on a mongolian throat singing forum 24/7).
>and they know the concept of moderation (they don't even have time to fap all day because they actually live life, instead of being a neet on a mongolian throat singing forum 24/7).
the important part which fly over everyones head
if you jerk off so much it interferes with your life sure, you should do something about it
problem is most of these nofap morons make nofap their entire life
yet every time some one makes a thread about quitting porn, all these nofap incels come out of the woodwork proselytizing about their cult.
Nofap as a means to quite porn is garaunteed failure because without a sexual outlet you'll just go mad and relapse.
If you wanna quit porn just rub one out fast and the urge goes away.
But these nofap incels act like jacking off a couple of time a week is all that keeps you being le based chad sex-haver. Meanwhile they're on day 1234567 of not touching their dick and they're still to scared to look at a girl and say hi.
while i agree 100% that no porn is good for you, i dont think that no fap is necessarily bad or good... it depends on your context. if it is impeding you to seek relationships because you are so wired to seek dopamine from it that you forget about greater goals such as having sex with women, then i think no fapping should be a good idea, but not for ever just fap with moderation, an interval that you think its fine
>ejaculating floods system with cortisol >cortisol known as the stress hormone >stress responsible for hair loss >people laughed at the old wives' tale of "masturbation causes hair loss"
bros...
ejaculating doesn't raise cortisol, that guy is moronic. it raises prolactin though.
the problem with porn is its an extremely easy simulation which densensitizes you and leads you to stop seeking sex in real life, kind of like videogames making you stop seeking adventure and thrill in real life.
1 month ago
Anonymous
While the desensitization is true, I think that a bigger factor is the fact that dopamine can be considered a stress hormone as well. It is stimulating and accompanies adrenaline. The actual "relaxing" state is not a state of happiness or playing games, but a state of being calm and mindful.
Now that I'm in a burnout, I realize how tiring video games are, as well as social media. Might be time to become a monk for a week or two. The ideal state is a state of indiffierence and peace, not one of happiness. Happiness is tiring.
1 month ago
Anonymous
I've been in monk mode for the past year. Including no friends or work. It's peaceful but I don't see myself leaving it. It's like being in bed comfy while you're sleepy.
If you attempt it have a set time you're due to stop.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Research torpor. Maybe you got into an inhibiting state mentally. It's different than being in a high metabolic state and being calm.
Is your sleep restful? If it isn't, your probably in a low metabolic state. After you leave it, you will have to recover for a while and then you can function again. I hope I'm not coming over as a smartass as I genuinely care.
But I will keep your advice in mind. I just don't see any other way out besides taking it easy.
moronic
Open your mind. Being in a restful, healing state doesn't mean constantly stimming on adrenaline even though it is fun.
1 month ago
Anonymous
dopamine and adrenaline are almost the exact opposite shit, you are moronic
1 month ago
Anonymous
No need to get emotional, just research it brother. I'm guaranteeing you it's not a waste of your time, but you will need to do it in good faith. Otherwise don't bother and have a nice day I guess.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>Research torpor. Maybe you got into an inhibiting state mentally. It's different than being in a high metabolic state and being calm.
It's very possible. Problem is that it's so broad a term I wouldn't know where to begin researching as far as human activity is concerned, if you had a direction to point me in I'd appreciate it.
Simple google search says "bro torpor is hibernation you ain't a bear don't be a dummy", but I know the psychological side differs i.e. depression, etc.
Sleep is restful; after transitioning to a japanese futon for back issues I sleep great (first two weeks were horrible to get used to it, lol).
That all said, your problem of 'burnout" is very different than mine (obviously), rather than calling it "monk mode", which I know was just casual conversation, remember that the normies have another word for it: "vacation". When was the last time you relaxed and did something / gone somewhere different?
1 month ago
Anonymous
So torpor basically means that your body drops its metabolic rate & activity to preserve energy for a certain period of time. This can be a day, but also months on end. This state is inherently stressful, but it does preserve energy very well. Because the metabolic rate is low, your not anabolic in this state. So it's not like your going to build muscle or recover while in torpor, even if you sleep and do nothing all day because of fatigue. In fact, like I said, it is the opposite, torpor is slightly stressful on the body and if it keeps going for too long, it can become VERY stressful. When you get out of torpor, you will need to recover to your old baseline metabolic rate, and then you might need to recover with a couple days of catching up on actual restful sleep before your fine again.
Torpor, according to some circles, can get triggered through eating a lot of PUFA. Others say it's seasonal through the circadian rhythm. But what they do agree on is that bright light, a good diet high in polyphenols (fruits), carbohydrates and saturated fats tell the body it's over. These are all available in times of abundance.
The rest is mental health, you may be inhibiting yourself mentally as some people with chronic fatigue do, for these people mental training programs are recommended.
I highly recommend you look into this:
https://www.tmswiki.org/forum/painrecovery/
Get some early morning sunlight directly into your eyes as well to trigger circadian changes. Finally, your back pain may have to do with your energy levels, look into link above. Monk mode is just there to fix mental health and being low stimulus to recover quickly. I'm 100% certain activities that we consider "restful" like games are stimulating and not restful at all, just fun. There is a reason depressed people seek solace, but don't make the mistake of seeking pleasure.
Look into your body temperature and circulation (cold hands/feet), digestion to discover potentional thyroid issues.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Body temperature should be ~37C in morning
1 month ago
Anonymous
https://testonation.com/2021/09/28/heres-how-to-see-if-youre-hypothyroid-and-how-to-fix-it/
https://www.ospublishers.com/pdf/HCM-3-136.pdf
One blogpost and one published article on hypothyroidism. The above link is mainly Ray Peat stuff, but worth looking into.
And if my post is incomprehensible feel free to ask questions.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Got pulled away; I can at least state it's a not a PUFA thing, and thyroid levels have been checked recently also. I also get sun regularly even if it's only sun bathing / walking outside.
>games are not relaxing, they are fun (stimulating)
very much agreed, due to this I don't remember the last time I played a game for more than 20 minutes in one go. I just get the feeling of seeing myself from a third party perspective just sitting still in front of a flashing screen and it pulls me out of it; and once I snap to I realize I have not the energy for it.
Ah well, I'm sure it'll be resolved eventually (if not, well, death awaits us all anyway).
Thanks for the time though and something to think about in:re torpor.
It makes you more anxious. It also raises estrogen temporarily. Basically, ejaculating every day or every couple days turns you into a little b***h femboy.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>Basically, ejaculating every day or every couple days turns you into a little b***h femboy.
and yet the "high T Chads" everyone wants to be dont seem to have this problem.
In fact billions of men have sex several times and dont have this problem.
It only seems to affect incels for some reason. >be IST incel >nofap for months and years to obtain superpowers to enable you to get a girlfriend to have sex with >cant have sex because you will lbecome a high estrogen sissy homosexual
Yeah you have an actual GF (which I doubt). You're not jerking your dick to pixels by yourself.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>jerking penis with own hand is le bad >jerking penis with gf's hand is le good
nofappers should never allow themselves to get a girlfriend, the whole concept of having a girlfriend goes against their autistic cult agenda
1 month ago
Anonymous
Getting off by natural means, with a woman, is what's good. Jacking off to other people fricking, or the same fake titty b***h every day is what will frick up your brain. Quit acting like you don't understand what this is all about and stop trying to justify your pathetic addiction. Porn is the biggest factor here.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>jerking penis with own hand is le bad >jerking penis with gf's hand is le good
nofappers should never allow themselves to get a girlfriend, the whole concept of having a girlfriend goes against their autistic cult agenda
these nofap incels also automatically assume anytime some jacks off that they are doing it to porn.
Also if you take this "semen retention" meme to its logical ending, the human race will go extinct.
Billions of men just sitting around not having sex or touching their dick because once they reach a certain number of days they will suddenly have the confidence to talk to a woman. But it never happens and they're still incels
>yet every time some one makes a thread about quitting porn, all these nofap incels come out of the woodwork proselytizing about their cult.
Because it's related. I expect to see christians and muslims and pagans going on about their own respective cults when I open a thread about spirituality or "i feel like I want to connect with God, what do?" I would include israelites but they're far too insular and half of them don't accept converts anyway; whereas even the most rabid muslim will call you brother if you give them the right verbal greeting.
no its not related. You're just here to proselytize your incel cult. Someone can be a porn addict without being a compulsive/chronic masterbater.
You're no different than the veganschizo telling someone with mental illness to just stop eating meat.
Nutting in a woman and nutting on your desk are two completely mentally different things. Just say you can't and won't stop pulling your little pud and go back to plebbit.
What does "on porn" even mean? If you watch a porn video for 10 minutes twice a week your brain will still to degenerate? Do pictures count or just videos?
its al about frying your dopamine receptors. If a few minutes of porn now and again isnt sending your dopamine response haywire you're probably ok (but you can still potentially get carried away and get addicted).
The problem lies in people who edge for hours a day multiple times a week. Their brains get flooded with dopamine to the point that simple pleasures in life no longer interest them and you lose motivation for anything other than more porn--> more dopamine
This only happened to me when I was smoking weed, which itself downregulates your dopamine receptors. The weed + gooning wombo combo definitely makes you drained and anhedonic
Being a weed addict unironically improved my life because i was looking for an excuse to get out the house every day (was living with parents, they didn’t know) in order to smoke. Ended up taking up real hobbies instead just gaming/watching anime and made a lot of friends i otherwise wouldn’t have when looking for smoke buddies/plugs. Quit like 2 years ago but glad i did that.
>If you watch a porn video for 10 minutes twice a week your brain will still to degenerate?
As a non porn example, think of how many people become "addicted" to watching other people behind the screen.
Zoomers and the tick tock
Boomers and the tellie
Moomers and the twitchers and the streamers (millenials but i wanted the -oomer ending)
That's just passive watching, not amping up your body's dopamine system to associate "X with sexual pleasure".
People simply spend too much time behind screens these days, and I say that as one of them.
The belief that porn watching causes people to become lonely deranged incels is a typical example of confusing correlation and causation. People watch porn because they got nothing else in their lives to seek a dopamine hit from and not the other way around. I used to be stuck at a shit retail job after moving to a different country with no friends, no girlfriends, zero social contacts. I became an avid porn "addict" and porn watching was nearly all I did during the entirety of my free time. I had accounts on various porn sites too so I felt "connected" to it in a way that felt deeper than just watching some videos to get my rocks off.
One day we had a new coworker who happened to be a pretty woman that took an interest in me. She proposed we travel somewhere with a bunch of her friends during a paid leave period. Among her friends I met a bunch of people who got me into a more lucrative job that I actually like and within a few weeks I was living with who is now my girlfriend of two years and having a life I actually enjoyed living. My porn "addiction" went away IMMEDIATELY. I never again felt the urge to watch porn for hours daily again because real life activities (and sex) were far preferable to it.
Porn does not work the way a real "addiction" does, and the rhetoric that a supposed porn "addiction" is the cause behind the rising virginity of men and the inability to get it up in front of a 100 kg she-ogre is a modern feminist psyop to put the blame on men for their sexlessness when in fact the only cause of it is the ever rising standards of women and the rising competition due to dating apps and social media.
You just explained with your post how porn is a coping mechanism to make people accept their shitty life. If you didn't meet someone randomly you would keep coping with porn.
That was my entire point. It's a coping mechanism and not a real addiction like some people think. It's not a proper drug that causes you to genuinely start tweaking the moment you go without it or causes your brain to physically rot like OP implies lol.
Compulsive porn watching is also a consequence of some people's lives being fricked up, not the cause.
>It's a coping mechanism and not a real addiction like some people think. It's not a proper drug that causes you to genuinely start tweaking the moment you go without it or causes your brain to physically rot like OP implies lol.
You'd be surprised actually.
Look up how the brain responds to heartache. Biophysically it's like withdrawals. Now, this is different because it's pair bonding and other stuff involved that porn doesn't quite have, but the point is that things you consider purely psychological also can have physical effects.
Exercise or other activities you do over a long period of time get ingrained as habits and going against those habits actually causes small amounts of physical anguish. It's why good habit formation is essential when you're young because otherwise it gets much harder. Not because it's harder to establish but because you have momentum already being [whatever].
Similar situation here. Well, except no actual gf, which makes me depressed, which makes me indulge in bad habits. for the one or two times in my life that I thought I had something kindling with a girl I liked my desire for porn or even to fap practically dropped to zero overnight. I'm sure it's still a partial cause of things but I'd say for many it's just another cope to turn to when life kinda sucks
I am shamelessly addicted to watching porn/gooning 24/7. Can not go a single day without watching femdom/joi/degradation porn and wringling my little toy. It's so fricking sickening I want to get out of this river of porn. I've tried site blockers, deleting porn site accounts, removing any VPN services, yet I continue to jerk off and watch porn. I genuinely have been mentally buck broken by porn because when I sleep at night I get a rock hard wiener because in my head the words "come on white boy, jerk off, jerk it off to me, jerk it off to the big black wiener that's making your wife scream". Currently have porn in the background while typing this. :_(
I had similar issues. Used to jerk off 5+ times per day for 6 years straight
the easiest way to stop is just become busy. if you're too occupied to jerk off you won't jerk off. I promise you this. Take up some kind of difficult work. Make sure its something you feel OBLIGATED to do. Like work. If you don't work you don't get to fricking eat and you starve and lose your home. I made myself busy with work and quit cold turkey, going 14 months strong
funniest thing? I still have my 6TB porn archive and all the bookmarks right here on my pc. It's THAT easy for me to relapse but I stay busy
anyway rub one out in the shower once per week so you don't go insane. no more than that.
The only way getting busy is going to keep you away from porn is if you get busy with something that feels fulfiling. having an exam is probably just going to stress you out which makes you want to numb that stress which is what seems to have happened.
I wouldn't go that far, just reduce the things that cause stress if possible and when you feel the urge to fap because of stress realize that you probably don't actually want to fap to porn but numb the stress and maybe that will help you stay away from porn.
I am starting to get erections while talking to goodlooking girls. What is this phenomenon? I am not a coomer in any means, but i feel like my testosterone is much higher than it used to be and now i just want to frick everybody. I don't really enjoy porn that much anymore, instead i just lay down and jerk off to my thoughts.
Refined sugar is killing your brain. Seriously. If you eat lots of refined sugars and no fiber (indigestible carbohydrates), then you are fricking virtually every aspect of your life over
I normally don't watch porn, but whenever I visit IST, I feel like I need to watch porn immediately. It's because of some motherfrickers posting lewd images as OP. I hope you'll all die.
I don't watch porn. I turn mires into fap fuel and then release myself taking cold showers. ~~*pr0n*~~ can't compete with the unlimited psychich power of Aryan imagination.
Perfect thread for my question, what exactly is it in porn that makes it so bad? Are images better? I just don't understand how viewing a simple image or video for like 10 minutes can cause brainfog? Sure weed and other drugs make sense but porn? Hell just naked photos of women?
Your brain gets conditioned to watching someone else frick a woman as a method of arousal. In other words you’re being conditioned to be aroused when in the position of cuck (watching someone else frick the girl). Taken to its extreme end, this results in AGP and trooning out
So by that logic watching POV porn or just solo female porn would be fine? I don't think anyone who is anti-porn would argue that and I don't think the vast majority of men who watch porn will become cuckolds and trannies.
I don't know. I'm not convinced watching porn occasionally is damaging at all. Especially not when no one who makes that argument can convincingly explain how doing so can affect your brain in a way that is comparable to doing heroin.
>porn is a super stimulus which leads to other things in life pale in comparison to the pleasure porn gives you >can lead to having no interest in Women irl >People jerk off to porn to numb the stress and anxiety they experience in life which can lead to them never dealing with the things that gives them that stress and anxiety leading to them living a life that is inferior to the one they could have >jerking off to porn helps to numb anxiety and stress you might experience in life but also gives you stress, anxiety and depression from lusting after Women you can't be with and watching other Men having sex with the Women you want to have sex with
>ejaculating floods system with cortisol >cortisol known as the stress hormone >stress responsible for hair loss >people laughed at the old wives' tale of "masturbation causes hair loss"
bros...
You don't need to ejaculate to become stressed from porn, stress can also lead to acne so if anyone is having problems with acne maybe try not fapping.
>>can lead to having no interest in Women irl
jerk off to porn to numb the stress and anxiety they experience in life which can lead to them never dealing with the things that gives them that stress and anxiety leading to them living a life that is inferior to the one they could have
F.
> but also gives you stress, anxiety and depression from lusting after Women you can't be with and watching other Men having sex with the Women you want
I wonder how this would be applicable to non IRL porn a la hentai or other 2D works.
>I wonder how this would be applicable to non IRL porn a la hentai or other 2D works.
My intention is to stop fapping to porn but i am also curious about this, i do feel better just fapping to solo videos rather than hardcore videos so i will be trying to stop watching all porn of real Women and only do 3D cgi and 2D porn to see how i feel. I also intend to try virtual porn to see what effect that has on me.
I used to numb my anxiety in life, but I didn't realize the anxiety, and neither did I realize I was using porn to numb myself. I REALLY wanted to do nofap but the willpower required was astromical. When I started anxiety work nofap became easy.
The problem is not the running from your feelings, it's realizing you have an issue to begin with. For me, being anxious and in fight-or-flight was normal. I was functioning and in a self-destructive spiral of overtraining and overdieting but none of the signals of my body did anything to me. For me, it was absolutely normal.
Most people that smoke weed don't even realize they are doing it for their mental health. They just say "It feels good", without knowing why.
Material society doesn't respect introspection or spirituality, and nobody does it. I wonder how society will look 10-20 years down the line with a lot of people getting autoimmune issues.
The way it was explained to me in a TED talk, when regularly viewing porn, you're imagining breeding lots of different women, so your brain thinks you've hit the evolutionary jackpot and it kicks in the dopamine and reward system. If it ended there that would be fine, but we're not animals with mating seasons anymore, we have constant access to porn, so you continue the behavior.
Eventually, your brain gets overloaded and that leads to symptoms similar to ADHD, anxiety, and depression.
when i use porn, the negative effects are blatantly obvious >sweaty >anxiety >anhedonia >depressive mood swings >brain fog >heavily increased salivation >jaw tension and resultant headaches >stomach pains and the shits >complete degradation of social skills >lack of any ability to self-motivate >increased urges to coom again
I do think I am on the extreme tail-end of "people who definitely should never touch porn with a 12 foot pole", since clearly most people can watch it... without all this shit happening
Most men feel the same effects when they regularly use porn. Why do you think there are so many antisocial wierdos everywhere? They spend hours in their jerk caves then can't look anybody in the eye when they leave.
>I don’t understand this new obsession with tracking faps. >I’ve had sex literally thousands of times
That would probably be why you don't understand, if sex is easy for you to get then you're probably not going to fap to porn. But many Men are addicted to porn and it's having a detrimental effect on their lives and they're trying to stop to live better lives. Though i would say it might not be fapping that is the problem but porn, fapping might even be good for you if you can learn how to have orgasms without ejaculating which is apparently possible.
>Been a full 3 days without porn or fapping >Blue balls on the 2nd night >Deep ache in my testes and sensitive at the top already >Friction burn on foreskin starting to ease
Bro's I know this is the beginning of the storm & I am probably only going to really get the bad withdrawals soon that is yet to come (lmao) but I feel somewhat better
You know you want to goon little b***h boy. Cum for me. Stroke it, keep on stroking it. Don't cum, just edge. Yeah, just like that, keep on stroking keep on stroking. Don't you dare think about cumming. I never knew you could ride the edge like that. C'mon, stroke faster, keep on stroking you can not cum. Lose your mind to porn.
Only broke the streak twice in January. I am feeling stronger now. My penis is working again. My lust for life and women has returned. I can once again feel the sunshine and hear the birds singing.
>stopped watching it more than a year ago back in February >3 weeks after quitting I hook up with one of my female friends I've had a crush on forever and we're now dating
>off porn for 2 weeks, deleted folder >moron brain trying to sabotage my dreams with porn images
Feels like it's going to get more difficult before it gets easier
>if you dont jerk off to porn you have no choice but to impregnate a woman with STDs
this is what nofappers believe
what if I fricked your dad in the ass?
Bro, I don't fap because it's weird and weak. I get erections a cat couldn't scratch. I don't fap because I control my urges, not the other way around.
oh see. You larp as LE BASED STOIC NON-DICK TOUCHER.
You're also obviously an incel because instead of "controlling your urges" you would be using them to a frick a girl like a normal man.
But why do you become so unhinged and emotional at the thought of other men rubbing one out in the shower twice a week?
This is a very strange obsession. A fetish you might call it.
I didn’t jerk off for the first time until I was 23. I was a kissless virgin before that.
It’s now almost 10 years later. I’m still a kissless virgin. Doesn’t matter if I went weeks/months without jerking off, or jerk off every day to vanilla solo amateur girl videos. Never changed my social behavior towards trying to get women. Only difference was cumming in my sheets every week while sleeping
Go outside. There are plenty of casual porn consumers who are living happy, fulfilling lives. I challenge you to find the same with heroin users.
Fixating on nofap won't change the things that are actually wrong with your life.
Porn addict here.
I think it is. There's an unlimited supply and you can never overdose on it. You just want more and more and develop new fetishes all the time.
It fries your dopamine receptors to the point that nothing else in life gives you pleasure and lose motivation to do anything but watch more porn.
And its new each time. Heroine is the same experience over and over. With porn you get a novel experience every time you click a link or thumbnail
If you consumed heroin like you do porn, you'd be dead.
Also, get off this website, and don't come back. I wish you the best of luck quitting.
>If you consumed heroin like you do porn, you'd be dead.
which is why porn is more worse. A heroin addict has to moderate his consumption, a porn addict doesnt. Imagine what happens to the brain after 20 years of non-stop porn consumption.
>make a comparison that may or may not be accurate depending on your point of view >IST incel screams some gibberish about acting like a man
1 month ago
Anonymous
>>make a comparison that may or may not be accurate depending on your point of view
That's a great way to excuse a dumb comparison
1 month ago
Anonymous
Its very legitimate comparison. Go look up the effects porn and heroin have on the brain and see for yourself.
Its not my fault you are a brain damaged porn addict in denial.
You go just around asking successful people if they watch porn or jack off?
And if they do, you expect them to actually tell you the truth?
And yet not a single nofap incel ever became anything more than incel who doesnt jerk off.
Porn addict here.
I think it is. There's an unlimited supply and you can never overdose on it. You just want more and more and develop new fetishes all the time.
It fries your dopamine receptors to the point that nothing else in life gives you pleasure and lose motivation to do anything but watch more porn.
And its new each time. Heroine is the same experience over and over. With porn you get a novel experience every time you click a link or thumbnail
Has there ever been a study done like this on hentai or furry porn? I'm a massive coomer and find I only ever notice negatives from it when watching real people frick, so I rarely do. Obviously no porn would be the best outcome, but I'm curious to see if our brain can tell the difference.
DAILY REMINDER THAT EASY ACCESS TO PORN IS A CHINESE PSYOP TO REDUCE WESTERN BIRTH RATES DULL THE MASSES AND THEN MOVE IN TAKE OVER AND MAKE THE REST OF THE WORLD FALL IN LINE WITH CHINESE COMMUNIST "VALUES"
>don't coom for a month >acne goes away >dandruff goes away >hair is thicker >voice is deeper >more self confidence because you are mastering your impulses
Try it. What do you have to lose?
>>don't coom for a month >acne goes away >dandruff goes away >hair is thicker >voice is deeper
none of that happened >more self confidence because you are mastering your impulses
and yet you still cant look a girl in the eye and say hello and you never will
chads are cooming inside girls every day, and the fact their balls are drained for weeks is not causing them to lose hair, have acne outbursts, growing hairs out of their hands, etc etc
you are the one on a major coping spree
you really believe you suddenly developed tranime powers because you didn't touch your micro dick for a while lmao
your brain works differently when you coom inside your girlfriend. being a little cuck boy watching another man RAVAGE a prostitute on camera has a different effect on your brain.
nofap all this time has been a thing aimed at homosexual teenagers that can't stop touching their dick. noporn should be a real thing because that's the first thing on this list. now when it comes to adults who can frick, you can go whereever you want. you can set up an argument for playboy chads vs semen retention chuds but that's for another thread.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>your brain works differently when you coom inside your girlfriend
fricking moron >
well then by that logic you can just watch solo porn. you nofap tards are coping with the fact that you can't talk to women. you think staying in your room pretending to be productive and healthy because you don't watch porn doesn't make you a cuck. chad is fricking the girl you were too afraid to talk to and it's not related to your porn consumption
>busty woman in vicinity
How am I supposed to concentrate? I have no problem with women that are attractive but not busty, but the moment a girl has large breasts then something honestly changes.
Is this how women look at fit guys too?
It's like I would always smash a girl that is 6/10 but with great breasts, much rather than a girl that is 9/10 but is lacking in the breast department.
Not jerking off makes me, without exageratting, 3 times more intense mentally. Its like im a different person. I know this board will make excuses because its filled with cumbrains and losers. Anyone who doesnt have the soul of a slave knows its bad for u.
porn is boring anyways. the free shit is cut so that you never actually have a good nut. once you are privy to it basically being a girl pretending and she's not actually genuinely enjoying it, its boring. for me, its hot when a woman actually likes it and has an orgasm. porn is just not enjoyable, its designed to be "decent" but almost tries to edge you. I get jerkin it once in a while, 3+ a day is a problem. Nothing beats the real thing, and cumming in my gfs throat is the best sensation ever.
I don't care about the schizo arguments, for me the most annoying part is the time lost. But I can't quit for more than like a week as long as I have internet access, it's a shitty addiction.
How exactly is porn harming any of you guys? Im actually curious how porn is stopping you from living a normal life.
Even the worst of worst degenerates seem to somehow be living a much better life than porn watchers according to IST
this
also if porn is the 1 factor in your life from living a happy life, you never had a life to begin with. You can't complain about having a shitty life when you dont even have one and your actual problem is desiring one
I'm not for banning porn and don't give a shit if someone else consumes it, but it has a negative impact on my life: >time lost I could spent doing something productive >less sensetivity in my wiener, literally unable to nut during sex >generally shitty feeling of doing something again and again you don't want to do
I know most of these revolve around excessive consumtion/addiction, but in that regard it's definetly harmful.
I can understand if you are spending way too much time on it. Then yes, change your way of life.
But is this true for the majority of people here? I guess I am projecting myself onto to others thinking you only watch it maybe once a night before bed.
its unironically one of the greatest degenerative tools ever devised and certainly one of the best manipulators of young men. society would be completely different if it was banned to produce, possess, sell, etc. the western world would be infinitely better if sex was not done for pleasure but solely for rearing children. sex outside of marriage is destructive and i regret ever partaking in it but its the culture i was brought up in and i refuse to blame my mother for my failures. >t. atheist
you know how influential computers have been for finance? that is how influential porn is over society. everybody and anything has become sexualized. there is no such thing as romance for >80% of the population. just food, frick, trauma dump, and accept their lot and condition in life. there is no growth, because porn isnt meant to grow an individual but waste them away, slowly, over time. like bloodletting.
It certainly has the potential to be, on certain boards. IST, if you avoid certain posts, is among the healthiest. I dont come here as much as I used to due to the omnipresent degeneration of this site. The quality of the site would increase dramatically if all lewd/porn posting was banned.
this
also if porn is the 1 factor in your life from living a happy life, you never had a life to begin with. You can't complain about having a shitty life when you dont even have one and your actual problem is desiring one
I don't think it's meant to be the only thing you need to do to cure yourself of being a massive fricking loser, but one of the many things things you do to improve and master yourself.
It's like how if you're a loser and you start lifting you'll just be a loser that lifts, you have to work on other areas of your life as well.
its unironically one of the greatest degenerative tools ever devised and certainly one of the best manipulators of young men. society would be completely different if it was banned to produce, possess, sell, etc. the western world would be infinitely better if sex was not done for pleasure but solely for rearing children. sex outside of marriage is destructive and i regret ever partaking in it but its the culture i was brought up in and i refuse to blame my mother for my failures. >t. atheist
A bit extreme anon. But at the same time I didn't realize just how much porn you guys may have consumed on a daily basis
even if you only masterbate once a week, over years it will inevitably add up and fundamentally change how you interact with others and what you desire and seek. It's extreme because it is the inevitable end to those that masterbate, I know because I have walked that road for at least 10 years. One of the biggest tests for the modern right to really be successful is the need for it to distance itself from sex and go back to romance and marriage. without this condemnation, they are doomed to neoconservatism and ultimately, defeat.
sex is a pacifying, degenerative thing. Childrearing is not. The relationship between sex and childrearing is akin to the relationship between alcohol and water. Both are liquid, but one is infinitely better for you and vital for survival, but the former is socially pushed on you and expected of a "healthy" member of society.
>for the modern right to really be successful is the need for it to distance itself from sex and go back to romance and marriage
And that's why you will never win, sex sells you homosexual, it feels amazing especially raw and premarital. I say embrace the degeneracy and enjoy the ride down to society's inevitable implosion.
Self control feels more amazing. But you wouldn't know because you're weak.
1 month ago
Anonymous
We are all here for less than a fraction of a blink of an eye, in 3 billion years, hell in 100 years it won't mean a thing that you've denied yourself pleasure and lived your life piously, I want to enjoy my time on this Earth so i will continue to bathe in the mud, slop around with the pigs and get my dick wet
1 month ago
Anonymous
>We are all here for less than a fraction of a blink of an eye, so i will spend my time jerking off to other guys fricking girls i want to frick
holy kek, thanks for the laugh.
1 month ago
Anonymous
I was more along the line of: you're going to die someday sooner than you think so why live a life denying yourself pleasures? But you can choose to interpret it how you want 🙂
1 month ago
Anonymous
But you can't use this reasoning for live. If i thought im gonna die today i'd eat slop and be more unhealthy in general. You need to think long-term to not make shit decisions, or you might end up being unhealthy, obese and hating your life when you could've avoided it. You can't use death as an excuse to be degenerate and frick up your health by eating all the slops,drinking,taking drugs etc.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>But you can't use this reasoning for live.
I can and do. I eat well and train my body to be a weapon and to be able to take what I want. Life doesn't just hand over good pussy to fat fricks who take no pride in themselves.
1 month ago
Anonymous
There is satisfaction beyond carnal pleasures, but you wouldn't know.
Porn is weird to me
Husbands and boyfriends willingly pimping their girl out for money
Doesnt sit right with me
Yes a lot of these pornstars have off camera boyfriends and husbands
I watch porn because I cant get pussy
Until I get pussy I will keep watching it
Porn is worse than heroin
At least heroin users can get the substance out of their system, but pornographic images will stay in your brain FOREVER
>Porn is worse than heroin
Sure it is schizo. Such statements make you look like a moronic cultist and hurt your movement.
Sure it will, buddy.
It's funny just how wrong you are. Being on heroin every day kills all interest in porn. You could replace your porn addiction with a heroin addiction tomorrow and never watch porn again. What makes porn addiction so pernicious is the ease of access, but in currentyear you can buy heroin online, so heroin is still worse.
You are a dumb fricking Black person.
The whole point of a heroin addiction is that you will always remember how heroin felt and nothing will ever come close to it
The brain needs to discard memories in order to keep its health, wtf are you talking about.
Sure porn can rewire mental structures in a bad way but it won't stay in your head forever, or do you remember every porn video you've ever seen?
No, I can manually induce seizures, gives me a nice brain refresh
>watch porn
>get photographic memory
Super based porn bros
is this why I can remember porn actresses from my teen years so well?
It depends. I personally can't remember every actress I've ever watched when I was watching porn. The industry rotates young girls like you wouldn't believe. You only remember actresses that you've gotten the biggest dopamine rush from or watched plenty of times. My go tos before I got addicted to incest porn were usually Lisa Ann, Janet Mason (never watched her interracial stuff just felt weird), and Monique Alexander. Those are the only 3 that I can remember honestly. My go to for step mom incest was Cory Chase. But honestly, I've been porn free for almost 4 years now, and I forget a lot of the names. I still get some porn flashes here and there, but I've forgotten the actresses and don't really care to look them up.
ngmi
>because I cant get pussy
>I watch porn
here's the issue, stop watching porn and you'll get pussy
wrong
>posts a tweet
OP posted a picture from a church website that sells books and classes for profit, so what's the big deal with that anon posting a tweet?
>posts a tweet from a israelite doctor who claims sex addiction isn't real and nofap is incel culture
alright shlomo, thats enough. Go kill children.
Addiction as most people in recovery know it isn’t real. It’s a cope to shift responsibility. We should do away with the word itself
OMG A GUY WITH A PHD WHO IS CLEARLY BIASED? I HECKING LOVE SCIENCE THANK YOU, IM GONNA jerk off 8 TIMES A DAY NOW. SINCE PORN ADDICTION ISN'T REAL
>experts say
>studies show
Trust the science! Try not ejaculating for 1 month. Tell me how you feel afterwards. I have more energy, better interactions with women and social settings in general, my hair is shiner, my voice is deeper. Try it yourself. 1 month.
>better interactions with women
yet you're still an incel.
How come "normies" who have sex and beat off once in a while can already do all of this shit naturally but IST incels have to go weeks without ejaculating in order to carry on a simple conversation?
>yeah bro just jerk your dick bro totally normal and healthy!
You sound like a weirdo
t. 3 years of nofap and still a depressed loser incel with zero social skills and too scared to a look a girl in the eye and say hi
>but muh hair is shiny
kek
>yeah bro it's totally normal I jack off every day I can't sleep unless I cum!
Yeah totally normal heh heh I'm gonna jack off tonight heh heh!
You sound like an addict
when did I say anything of the sort?
nofap incels must have been compulsive mon-stop masterbaters since age 8 because they simply cant process the fact that normal people only jack off once or twice a week.
Nofap incels seriously believe that anyone not in their incel cult is jerking off 20x per day or something
To everyone that is reading this, try googling the name of the "expert" that writes this post (david ley). He is a LITERAL cuckold basedboy who writes books on how to get your wife to frick BBC. I'm not even joking.
Also, that study really only shows a correlation where men who have high libido have sex more often AND watch porn more often (because they have a high libido) then men who have a low libido. Oh, what a fricking surprise guys, men who have a higher libido watch porn more often than men with a low libido.... That is the only fricking thing it 'proves', and it says absolutely nothing about the act of consciously abstaining from porn (aka "nofap"/"noporn"). But hey, David Ley the literal cuckold doesn't want you to know that. He just wants to use this study as an excuse to promote cuckold porn, to justify his own cuckold lifestyle.
Again, I am not even saying this as an insult. He is an actual, literal cuckold that tries to make as many other men in the world cuckolds as well. Google his name, and have a laugh. These are the "experts" that are telling you that porn is good.
~~*David Ley*~~
>men who watch porn are MORE likely to desire marriage
After watching this bruised bawd swallow someone else's pee I really feel like finally settling down.
>manlet israelite spends his whole life writing about and preaching cuckoldry
you can't make this shit up. israelites are always the most ridiculous strawmen, real and in the flesh.
>I cut myself because I'm unhappy
It makes sense now
I watch it for the opposite reason. When i stop watching porn my libido goes down and its harder for me to reach orgasm when i frick my gf
>Until I get pussy I will keep watching it
Biggest lie ever. You can have a wife and still watch porn and jerk off.
t. I have a wife and still watch porn and jerk off.
And yes, it can become a real problem for a couple.
It unironically is killing your mental and physical gains.
It doesn't work like that. Quit it.
This is non-empirical ~~*science*~~.
>This is non-empirical ~~*science*~~.
Google the guys name for fun. He is a literal cuckold that writes book in which he tried to convince other men to become cucks as well. These are the experts that are telling you that porn is good for you.
I'm not going to start working out until I'm already IST
Why not both?
I applaud your honesty on an anonymous pouch-posting pergamino, but I can't wait until you actually get laid and realize all that fapping ruined your sexual stamina and you'll never get laid again
porn is part of the reason you wont go out and meet women. This is self defeating behavior that you are exhibiting.
I used to say the same. Now i can get pussy but i only get turned on by porn. It's hell
I star in porn so that I can get pussy
you will never get pussy if you're porn brained, women can subconsciously detect gooners a mile away
>I will keep supplementing and suppressing the drive which propels me and urges me to get my desired result
Wow genius, nice thinking moron.
Controlling your base urges is what develops you as a person. I don't understand why you're in this thread. Go jerk your dick bro nobody cares. Why are you trying to convince people to jerk their dicks?
Did you actually think he was advocating for jerking off? Are you esl or just lack reading comprehension?
Are you moronic?
nta but he is right. you are moronic and can't read.
You'll never get pussy walking around with an empty nutsack and fried dopamine receptors.
Unironically what happened to me. Watched porn for years, then got a gf and pretty much dropped it altogether. Really the only porn I see is whatever gets posted to IST and other blueboards but it's not like I seek it out or whack it, I just go frick my gf
Sex havers with gfs/wifes who watch porn are the true addicts. I’m okay with guys who can’t get laid that watch it.
Is that with or without cooming?
wrong! porn helps me coom which helps me sleep which is more important for gains.
You are a degenerate
>stopped watching for 5months
>literally nothing changed
it has, you just havent noticed because its a slow process
Im around 2 months in and the only difference I notice is my cooms are more intense using imagination over porn but that was already the case back when I did watch it, maybe it's because I mainly watched vids of girls dancing/movie scenes over ''real'' porn
>when I watched porn and stopped I didn't notice any difference
>now, I never actually watched porn, per se, BUT!
of all posts in this thread this is the best, thanks for the laugh.
>wasted time
one of the most under mentioned aspect of porn watching. then again that kind of gets into "what is time well spent then" and that's a whole other can of worms.
Oh I have watched/beat my meat to it but it just never did much for me compared to girls solo jerking off or dancing or movie scenes that simulated sex for some reason, I suppose the term is eroticism is more my thing? I think it's why it was easier for me to quit, my ''expectations'' for sex were always quite realistic
No I understand you completely. It's just not the same thing, nor is literature or hentai. Your brain recognizes the latter two as "not people", and for softcore stuff it's still "tasteful", for lack of a better word.
The "not people" means brain regions responsible for "oh person face" don't activate, and as for the "tasteful" thing there's probably a better explanation but I'm far too sleep deprived for brain to work properly. Either way be glad that that's what works for you and not something like "oh man oh frick there's no one around and this cadaver's really doing its best to seduce me, look at there just lying all still and cold FRICK".
I quit for half a year once and then came back. It was a huge difference after all and I wanted more porn like I was a druggie. There's a definite difference
yeah, i lied,
one thing i noticed different is when i jerk it in shower to imaginary white women, that after im done and clean it off the wall I feel a lot better than after watching proon.
after porn i feel slugish and shitty
after shower cum sesh i feel rejuvinated, or if not, then just normal all good, no mental fog
SO all in all yea, watching porn does stuff to your head id rather avoid.
But my muscles didnt grow more bcuz of it, girls dont run pussy first at me, and no CEOs didnt offer me great jobs, so beware what these schizos are yapping, only things you'll do by stopping is have 1 less addiction, save time by not watching porn, and feel mentally a bit better
The mental side is definitely an improvement I feel, the difference is with porn
>scroll for anywhere from 10-60 minutes
>bust average feeling nut
>feel bad because I wasted so much time looking for the thing to cum to
Whereas without porn
>finish within 5-10 minutes depending on how I'm feeling
>bust pretty good feeling nut
>move on without feeling like I wasted time
But no major difference in gains or my success with women
I once didn't jerk off or look at porn accidentally for 8 months. It started because I was super busy for a month straight and just fell out of the habit because I didn't have time for it. Noticed no difference whatsoever. Maybe I'm just built different than most peons.
i don't normally have an urge but whenever i get on tinder or whatever I just have a massive urge to send dick picks and shit idk why i crave their validation of my penis
No, you're built just like the rest of us.
>Maybe I'm just built different than most peons.
Are you trying to say that you are low T? If I go without porn and ejaculating for 2 weeks I get random boners from smelling female animals in heat.
I got random boners all the time regardless of whether or not I was consuming porn.
Why so bitter? Get a job that eats up your schedule and you won't have time for porn or jerking off. You'll be tired at the end of every day and when you get in bed you won't even have the energy to handle your boner.
You have not gone 2 days without watching porn since you discovered it. You are a liar.
That just means you weren't chosen; it's okay, hylic, we can't all be pneumatics. Same way we need poor people to take out the trash and serve us food.
My results were different. When I stopped watching porn I still craved the female essence. So instead of watching porn I had more confidence to just talk to more girls. Right now I’m texting a girl from my gym that I’ve seen for the last few months who was very attractive but never knew how to talk to. A few weeks ago we made eye contact and smiled so I decided to finally just talk to her and she seemed into me so I got her number, we’re gonna go on a date this weekend.
Idk man, had it not been for cutting out porn I feel like that day we had our first interaction I would have just went home and found a porn girl who looks like her and jerked off. I feel a lot happier without porn.
Nothing changed when I quit cigarettes or alcohol either.
Nothing is going to change unless you make an effort to change something, it's just that numbing yourself with, alcohol, tobacco or porn makes it more difficult to enact positive change in your life.
I stopped for about 3 weeks. My dick was drooling everywhere which was a bother. Best nut i've had though.
why do you care what I do to my peepee? Are you a gay?
i quit for 2 years and a half and a lot changed. i barely notice racebait, i have a healthier sex life, i have more energy and mental clarity. but lately i've been kinda weak and jerked off to some sexy women and softcore since i got a gf and old patterns and yearning for more sex set in. I haven't done it again for a while, but I have moments looking at oglaf or sexy women. the good thing however is that hardcore porn or explicit images actually turn me off, they have been disgusting to me ever since the first few months. i still imagine sex scenes but if i see real people doing it on camera i don't get turned on like i used to but actually repulsed and have to look at something else. i've become really vanilla, but it was nothing but positive on my life.
>vanilla
coombrain israelite language. the damage is deep
i wanted to type soft but that would be misinterpreted. i still get rock hard erections like before
All for bashing pornographers skulls in with hammers say i
I don’t think porn reshapes your brain :/
Nothing like a porn fueled workout. Seriously, if you don't have a homegym just try doing push-ups with some on the background
I watch femdom porn where the girl instructs me to workout (pushups, situps, pullups) in return for some jacking time. Getting progressively harder over time
Any recommendations?
The American Psycho technique. It works.
Did no fap for 3 years and didn't notice much of a difference. The most interesting thing happened on the third year when i woke up in the middle of the night with the most intense urge to fap i have ever felt.
I don't think nofap gives you a positive benefit. It returns you to the baseline of 0 if you are a creature of the abyss stuck at -800. And that can feel like getting superpowers
this is the correct answer and the fact that these shit flinging apes choose to ignore it speaks volumes about IST
An alcoholic will benefit from not drinking alcohol, a pornoholic will benefit from not jerking off to porn. If you don't have a problem with porn nofap will do nothing for you.
>put on porn
>get hard-ish
>start fapping
>have to change video
>instantly when I pause or change video get soft as frick
I've destroyed my fricking penis bros, is it reversible?
Yes. Stop watching porn and ejaculating. It takes about 3 weeks.
how old are you? even if you have a porn addiction that's not normal if you're young
see a doctor
He just needs to stop watching porn and jacking off. That's usually all it takes. Your brain starts healing after about 3 weeks.
quitting porn will help him but it is absolutely not normal for a young man to just drop erections like that
it's likely a conjunction of porn, diet and sleep habits. The latter 2 often get absolved because people like to shift 100% blame onto porn
social media is far worse, especially for women
>cancer kills more than diabetes
Cool I can safely consume shitty sugars!
I watch porn once a week and the rest of the time use my spankbank. When i am in a relationship or really trying to be l, i stop
>source: my ass
Porn is bad, you don't need to add a stupid picture of a colored jellyfish.
I won’t stop fapping to twink porn
you are no longer human
>depression is killing your gains
ftfy
don't care, will never have sex anyway
Incel cope
Reminder that there isn't a single nofap cultist who has a girlfriend. And they should never get one, because their schizophrenic philosophy implies that stimulating your penis is literally making a pact with the devil.
Normalgays who are actually capable of getting laid don't have time for this kind of mental illness, they don't go believing not touching their penis is going to grant them magical anime powers, and they know the concept of moderation (they don't even have time to fap all day because they actually live life, instead of being a neet on a mongolian throat singing forum 24/7).
>and they know the concept of moderation (they don't even have time to fap all day because they actually live life, instead of being a neet on a mongolian throat singing forum 24/7).
the important part which fly over everyones head
if you jerk off so much it interferes with your life sure, you should do something about it
problem is most of these nofap morons make nofap their entire life
Which, ironically, means they’re still letting porn control their lives
nofap == no porn
yet every time some one makes a thread about quitting porn, all these nofap incels come out of the woodwork proselytizing about their cult.
Nofap as a means to quite porn is garaunteed failure because without a sexual outlet you'll just go mad and relapse.
If you wanna quit porn just rub one out fast and the urge goes away.
But these nofap incels act like jacking off a couple of time a week is all that keeps you being le based chad sex-haver. Meanwhile they're on day 1234567 of not touching their dick and they're still to scared to look at a girl and say hi.
while i agree 100% that no porn is good for you, i dont think that no fap is necessarily bad or good... it depends on your context. if it is impeding you to seek relationships because you are so wired to seek dopamine from it that you forget about greater goals such as having sex with women, then i think no fapping should be a good idea, but not for ever just fap with moderation, an interval that you think its fine
Seeking dopamine release is just bad in general. Ejaculating floods your system with cortisol.
>ejaculating floods system with cortisol
>cortisol known as the stress hormone
>stress responsible for hair loss
>people laughed at the old wives' tale of "masturbation causes hair loss"
bros...
ejaculating doesn't raise cortisol, that guy is moronic. it raises prolactin though.
the problem with porn is its an extremely easy simulation which densensitizes you and leads you to stop seeking sex in real life, kind of like videogames making you stop seeking adventure and thrill in real life.
While the desensitization is true, I think that a bigger factor is the fact that dopamine can be considered a stress hormone as well. It is stimulating and accompanies adrenaline. The actual "relaxing" state is not a state of happiness or playing games, but a state of being calm and mindful.
Now that I'm in a burnout, I realize how tiring video games are, as well as social media. Might be time to become a monk for a week or two. The ideal state is a state of indiffierence and peace, not one of happiness. Happiness is tiring.
I've been in monk mode for the past year. Including no friends or work. It's peaceful but I don't see myself leaving it. It's like being in bed comfy while you're sleepy.
If you attempt it have a set time you're due to stop.
Research torpor. Maybe you got into an inhibiting state mentally. It's different than being in a high metabolic state and being calm.
Is your sleep restful? If it isn't, your probably in a low metabolic state. After you leave it, you will have to recover for a while and then you can function again. I hope I'm not coming over as a smartass as I genuinely care.
https://www.discoverwildlife.com/animal-facts/torpor-vs-hibernation-sleep
But I will keep your advice in mind. I just don't see any other way out besides taking it easy.
Open your mind. Being in a restful, healing state doesn't mean constantly stimming on adrenaline even though it is fun.
dopamine and adrenaline are almost the exact opposite shit, you are moronic
No need to get emotional, just research it brother. I'm guaranteeing you it's not a waste of your time, but you will need to do it in good faith. Otherwise don't bother and have a nice day I guess.
>Research torpor. Maybe you got into an inhibiting state mentally. It's different than being in a high metabolic state and being calm.
It's very possible. Problem is that it's so broad a term I wouldn't know where to begin researching as far as human activity is concerned, if you had a direction to point me in I'd appreciate it.
Simple google search says "bro torpor is hibernation you ain't a bear don't be a dummy", but I know the psychological side differs i.e. depression, etc.
Sleep is restful; after transitioning to a japanese futon for back issues I sleep great (first two weeks were horrible to get used to it, lol).
That all said, your problem of 'burnout" is very different than mine (obviously), rather than calling it "monk mode", which I know was just casual conversation, remember that the normies have another word for it: "vacation". When was the last time you relaxed and did something / gone somewhere different?
So torpor basically means that your body drops its metabolic rate & activity to preserve energy for a certain period of time. This can be a day, but also months on end. This state is inherently stressful, but it does preserve energy very well. Because the metabolic rate is low, your not anabolic in this state. So it's not like your going to build muscle or recover while in torpor, even if you sleep and do nothing all day because of fatigue. In fact, like I said, it is the opposite, torpor is slightly stressful on the body and if it keeps going for too long, it can become VERY stressful. When you get out of torpor, you will need to recover to your old baseline metabolic rate, and then you might need to recover with a couple days of catching up on actual restful sleep before your fine again.
Torpor, according to some circles, can get triggered through eating a lot of PUFA. Others say it's seasonal through the circadian rhythm. But what they do agree on is that bright light, a good diet high in polyphenols (fruits), carbohydrates and saturated fats tell the body it's over. These are all available in times of abundance.
The rest is mental health, you may be inhibiting yourself mentally as some people with chronic fatigue do, for these people mental training programs are recommended.
I highly recommend you look into this:
https://www.tmswiki.org/forum/painrecovery/
Get some early morning sunlight directly into your eyes as well to trigger circadian changes. Finally, your back pain may have to do with your energy levels, look into link above. Monk mode is just there to fix mental health and being low stimulus to recover quickly. I'm 100% certain activities that we consider "restful" like games are stimulating and not restful at all, just fun. There is a reason depressed people seek solace, but don't make the mistake of seeking pleasure.
Look into your body temperature and circulation (cold hands/feet), digestion to discover potentional thyroid issues.
Body temperature should be ~37C in morning
https://testonation.com/2021/09/28/heres-how-to-see-if-youre-hypothyroid-and-how-to-fix-it/
https://www.ospublishers.com/pdf/HCM-3-136.pdf
One blogpost and one published article on hypothyroidism. The above link is mainly Ray Peat stuff, but worth looking into.
And if my post is incomprehensible feel free to ask questions.
Got pulled away; I can at least state it's a not a PUFA thing, and thyroid levels have been checked recently also. I also get sun regularly even if it's only sun bathing / walking outside.
>games are not relaxing, they are fun (stimulating)
very much agreed, due to this I don't remember the last time I played a game for more than 20 minutes in one go. I just get the feeling of seeing myself from a third party perspective just sitting still in front of a flashing screen and it pulls me out of it; and once I snap to I realize I have not the energy for it.
Ah well, I'm sure it'll be resolved eventually (if not, well, death awaits us all anyway).
Thanks for the time though and something to think about in:re torpor.
moronic
Why would flooding your system with cortisol be a bad thing? It makes you more productive
It makes you more anxious. It also raises estrogen temporarily. Basically, ejaculating every day or every couple days turns you into a little b***h femboy.
>Basically, ejaculating every day or every couple days turns you into a little b***h femboy.
and yet the "high T Chads" everyone wants to be dont seem to have this problem.
In fact billions of men have sex several times and dont have this problem.
It only seems to affect incels for some reason.
>be IST incel
>nofap for months and years to obtain superpowers to enable you to get a girlfriend to have sex with
>cant have sex because you will lbecome a high estrogen sissy homosexual
*several times a week
and yet I frick my gf 3 times a day and dont have all these problems that nofap incels and porn addicts have.
Yeah you have an actual GF (which I doubt). You're not jerking your dick to pixels by yourself.
>jerking penis with own hand is le bad
>jerking penis with gf's hand is le good
nofappers should never allow themselves to get a girlfriend, the whole concept of having a girlfriend goes against their autistic cult agenda
Getting off by natural means, with a woman, is what's good. Jacking off to other people fricking, or the same fake titty b***h every day is what will frick up your brain. Quit acting like you don't understand what this is all about and stop trying to justify your pathetic addiction. Porn is the biggest factor here.
these nofap incels also automatically assume anytime some jacks off that they are doing it to porn.
Also if you take this "semen retention" meme to its logical ending, the human race will go extinct.
Billions of men just sitting around not having sex or touching their dick because once they reach a certain number of days they will suddenly have the confidence to talk to a woman. But it never happens and they're still incels
>yet every time some one makes a thread about quitting porn, all these nofap incels come out of the woodwork proselytizing about their cult.
Because it's related. I expect to see christians and muslims and pagans going on about their own respective cults when I open a thread about spirituality or "i feel like I want to connect with God, what do?" I would include israelites but they're far too insular and half of them don't accept converts anyway; whereas even the most rabid muslim will call you brother if you give them the right verbal greeting.
no its not related. You're just here to proselytize your incel cult. Someone can be a porn addict without being a compulsive/chronic masterbater.
You're no different than the veganschizo telling someone with mental illness to just stop eating meat.
>bro just keep jerking your dick it's fine!
You're pathetic
Nutting in a woman and nutting on your desk are two completely mentally different things. Just say you can't and won't stop pulling your little pud and go back to plebbit.
What does "on porn" even mean? If you watch a porn video for 10 minutes twice a week your brain will still to degenerate? Do pictures count or just videos?
Because there are lingering effects.
its al about frying your dopamine receptors. If a few minutes of porn now and again isnt sending your dopamine response haywire you're probably ok (but you can still potentially get carried away and get addicted).
The problem lies in people who edge for hours a day multiple times a week. Their brains get flooded with dopamine to the point that simple pleasures in life no longer interest them and you lose motivation for anything other than more porn--> more dopamine
This only happened to me when I was smoking weed, which itself downregulates your dopamine receptors. The weed + gooning wombo combo definitely makes you drained and anhedonic
Being a weed addict unironically improved my life because i was looking for an excuse to get out the house every day (was living with parents, they didn’t know) in order to smoke. Ended up taking up real hobbies instead just gaming/watching anime and made a lot of friends i otherwise wouldn’t have when looking for smoke buddies/plugs. Quit like 2 years ago but glad i did that.
How to upregulate dopamine receptors?
how to google?
l-tyrosine, l-dopa, exercise, or getting prescribed bupropion (wellbutrin).
>If you watch a porn video for 10 minutes twice a week your brain will still to degenerate?
As a non porn example, think of how many people become "addicted" to watching other people behind the screen.
Zoomers and the tick tock
Boomers and the tellie
Moomers and the twitchers and the streamers (millenials but i wanted the -oomer ending)
That's just passive watching, not amping up your body's dopamine system to associate "X with sexual pleasure".
People simply spend too much time behind screens these days, and I say that as one of them.
The belief that porn watching causes people to become lonely deranged incels is a typical example of confusing correlation and causation. People watch porn because they got nothing else in their lives to seek a dopamine hit from and not the other way around. I used to be stuck at a shit retail job after moving to a different country with no friends, no girlfriends, zero social contacts. I became an avid porn "addict" and porn watching was nearly all I did during the entirety of my free time. I had accounts on various porn sites too so I felt "connected" to it in a way that felt deeper than just watching some videos to get my rocks off.
One day we had a new coworker who happened to be a pretty woman that took an interest in me. She proposed we travel somewhere with a bunch of her friends during a paid leave period. Among her friends I met a bunch of people who got me into a more lucrative job that I actually like and within a few weeks I was living with who is now my girlfriend of two years and having a life I actually enjoyed living. My porn "addiction" went away IMMEDIATELY. I never again felt the urge to watch porn for hours daily again because real life activities (and sex) were far preferable to it.
Porn does not work the way a real "addiction" does, and the rhetoric that a supposed porn "addiction" is the cause behind the rising virginity of men and the inability to get it up in front of a 100 kg she-ogre is a modern feminist psyop to put the blame on men for their sexlessness when in fact the only cause of it is the ever rising standards of women and the rising competition due to dating apps and social media.
>another moron that thinks that the phrase "correlation does not equal causation" actually means "correlation can never indicate causation"
You just explained with your post how porn is a coping mechanism to make people accept their shitty life. If you didn't meet someone randomly you would keep coping with porn.
That was my entire point. It's a coping mechanism and not a real addiction like some people think. It's not a proper drug that causes you to genuinely start tweaking the moment you go without it or causes your brain to physically rot like OP implies lol.
Compulsive porn watching is also a consequence of some people's lives being fricked up, not the cause.
>It's a coping mechanism and not a real addiction like some people think. It's not a proper drug that causes you to genuinely start tweaking the moment you go without it or causes your brain to physically rot like OP implies lol.
You'd be surprised actually.
Look up how the brain responds to heartache. Biophysically it's like withdrawals. Now, this is different because it's pair bonding and other stuff involved that porn doesn't quite have, but the point is that things you consider purely psychological also can have physical effects.
Exercise or other activities you do over a long period of time get ingrained as habits and going against those habits actually causes small amounts of physical anguish. It's why good habit formation is essential when you're young because otherwise it gets much harder. Not because it's harder to establish but because you have momentum already being [whatever].
Similar situation here. Well, except no actual gf, which makes me depressed, which makes me indulge in bad habits. for the one or two times in my life that I thought I had something kindling with a girl I liked my desire for porn or even to fap practically dropped to zero overnight. I'm sure it's still a partial cause of things but I'd say for many it's just another cope to turn to when life kinda sucks
I use porn for my pe sessions
Not like life changes much when i dont use or abuse it, maybe im less horny on the day
>pe sessions
Penis erection sessions?
>thread about not watching porn
>posts porn
youre a proper c**t
Dont watch it?
That being said i rather jerk off with imagination the feeling is better than what degenerate shit im seeing
I am shamelessly addicted to watching porn/gooning 24/7. Can not go a single day without watching femdom/joi/degradation porn and wringling my little toy. It's so fricking sickening I want to get out of this river of porn. I've tried site blockers, deleting porn site accounts, removing any VPN services, yet I continue to jerk off and watch porn. I genuinely have been mentally buck broken by porn because when I sleep at night I get a rock hard wiener because in my head the words "come on white boy, jerk off, jerk it off to me, jerk it off to the big black wiener that's making your wife scream". Currently have porn in the background while typing this. :_(
I had similar issues. Used to jerk off 5+ times per day for 6 years straight
the easiest way to stop is just become busy. if you're too occupied to jerk off you won't jerk off. I promise you this. Take up some kind of difficult work. Make sure its something you feel OBLIGATED to do. Like work. If you don't work you don't get to fricking eat and you starve and lose your home. I made myself busy with work and quit cold turkey, going 14 months strong
funniest thing? I still have my 6TB porn archive and all the bookmarks right here on my pc. It's THAT easy for me to relapse but I stay busy
anyway rub one out in the shower once per week so you don't go insane. no more than that.
I have an important exam tomorrow and I ended up procrastinating and nutting 4 times since I last posted. Being busy does fricking nothing for me.
The only way getting busy is going to keep you away from porn is if you get busy with something that feels fulfiling. having an exam is probably just going to stress you out which makes you want to numb that stress which is what seems to have happened.
become a workaholic theory, but i like it
>become a workaholic
I wouldn't go that far, just reduce the things that cause stress if possible and when you feel the urge to fap because of stress realize that you probably don't actually want to fap to porn but numb the stress and maybe that will help you stay away from porn.
>Cut to super lean bodyfat percentage
>No sex drive anyway
Thank God I'm not in a cult going around telling people not to touch their dicks.
Nope, you're just in a cult going around telling people to keep tugging their dicks to pixels. Much better, you oblivious moron.
You never jerked off to an actual woman before? You should try it. It’s pretty decent
I've jerked off while watching my wife jerking off to hotwife bbc porn. Does that count?
Yes it does, bc a real person is involved not just pixels
Nope. Only counts if you watch your wife with an actual BBC. BBC porn doesn't count.
Does it count if I don't watch porn but frick AI women?
I am starting to get erections while talking to goodlooking girls. What is this phenomenon? I am not a coomer in any means, but i feel like my testosterone is much higher than it used to be and now i just want to frick everybody. I don't really enjoy porn that much anymore, instead i just lay down and jerk off to my thoughts.
Refined sugar is killing your brain. Seriously. If you eat lots of refined sugars and no fiber (indigestible carbohydrates), then you are fricking virtually every aspect of your life over
I normally don't watch porn, but whenever I visit IST, I feel like I need to watch porn immediately. It's because of some motherfrickers posting lewd images as OP. I hope you'll all die.
I don't watch porn. I turn mires into fap fuel and then release myself taking cold showers. ~~*pr0n*~~ can't compete with the unlimited psychich power of Aryan imagination.
MODS
Perfect thread for my question, what exactly is it in porn that makes it so bad? Are images better? I just don't understand how viewing a simple image or video for like 10 minutes can cause brainfog? Sure weed and other drugs make sense but porn? Hell just naked photos of women?
ALSO how is brain fog tied to it?
dopamine and reward system gets fried.
social media is doing the same thing.
Your brain gets conditioned to watching someone else frick a woman as a method of arousal. In other words you’re being conditioned to be aroused when in the position of cuck (watching someone else frick the girl). Taken to its extreme end, this results in AGP and trooning out
So by that logic watching POV porn or just solo female porn would be fine? I don't think anyone who is anti-porn would argue that and I don't think the vast majority of men who watch porn will become cuckolds and trannies.
I actually kinda got into only pov porn or mostly vr porn and just slide to only see the girl. How damaging is this to me?
I don't know. I'm not convinced watching porn occasionally is damaging at all. Especially not when no one who makes that argument can convincingly explain how doing so can affect your brain in a way that is comparable to doing heroin.
no prior effort is made for the dopamine release
>what exactly is it in porn that makes it so bad?
>porn is a super stimulus which leads to other things in life pale in comparison to the pleasure porn gives you
>can lead to having no interest in Women irl
>People jerk off to porn to numb the stress and anxiety they experience in life which can lead to them never dealing with the things that gives them that stress and anxiety leading to them living a life that is inferior to the one they could have
>jerking off to porn helps to numb anxiety and stress you might experience in life but also gives you stress, anxiety and depression from lusting after Women you can't be with and watching other Men having sex with the Women you want to have sex with
You don't need to ejaculate to become stressed from porn, stress can also lead to acne so if anyone is having problems with acne maybe try not fapping.
>>can lead to having no interest in Women irl
jerk off to porn to numb the stress and anxiety they experience in life which can lead to them never dealing with the things that gives them that stress and anxiety leading to them living a life that is inferior to the one they could have
F.
> but also gives you stress, anxiety and depression from lusting after Women you can't be with and watching other Men having sex with the Women you want
I wonder how this would be applicable to non IRL porn a la hentai or other 2D works.
>I wonder how this would be applicable to non IRL porn a la hentai or other 2D works.
My intention is to stop fapping to porn but i am also curious about this, i do feel better just fapping to solo videos rather than hardcore videos so i will be trying to stop watching all porn of real Women and only do 3D cgi and 2D porn to see how i feel. I also intend to try virtual porn to see what effect that has on me.
I used to numb my anxiety in life, but I didn't realize the anxiety, and neither did I realize I was using porn to numb myself. I REALLY wanted to do nofap but the willpower required was astromical. When I started anxiety work nofap became easy.
The problem is not the running from your feelings, it's realizing you have an issue to begin with. For me, being anxious and in fight-or-flight was normal. I was functioning and in a self-destructive spiral of overtraining and overdieting but none of the signals of my body did anything to me. For me, it was absolutely normal.
Most people that smoke weed don't even realize they are doing it for their mental health. They just say "It feels good", without knowing why.
Material society doesn't respect introspection or spirituality, and nobody does it. I wonder how society will look 10-20 years down the line with a lot of people getting autoimmune issues.
The way it was explained to me in a TED talk, when regularly viewing porn, you're imagining breeding lots of different women, so your brain thinks you've hit the evolutionary jackpot and it kicks in the dopamine and reward system. If it ended there that would be fine, but we're not animals with mating seasons anymore, we have constant access to porn, so you continue the behavior.
Eventually, your brain gets overloaded and that leads to symptoms similar to ADHD, anxiety, and depression.
OH MY GOD, THERE ARE WORDS ON A PICTURE!!! THAT MEANS ITS TRUE!!!!!!!!!!!!
keep fapping then freak
when i use porn, the negative effects are blatantly obvious
>sweaty
>anxiety
>anhedonia
>depressive mood swings
>brain fog
>heavily increased salivation
>jaw tension and resultant headaches
>stomach pains and the shits
>complete degradation of social skills
>lack of any ability to self-motivate
>increased urges to coom again
I do think I am on the extreme tail-end of "people who definitely should never touch porn with a 12 foot pole", since clearly most people can watch it... without all this shit happening
Most men feel the same effects when they regularly use porn. Why do you think there are so many antisocial wierdos everywhere? They spend hours in their jerk caves then can't look anybody in the eye when they leave.
souce
name please
Your Brain on Porn
>4 months no porn
>feeling better and sexual drive and desires is that of a healthy male
>no more self-loathing
Never going back.
how often do you fap?
Depends, sometimes everyday, sometimes once or twice a week. Had no drive to fap once I stopped porn for a while, but after two months it came back.
I’ve had sex literally thousands of times and I don’t understand this new obsession with tracking faps.
>I don’t understand this new obsession with tracking faps.
>I’ve had sex literally thousands of times
That would probably be why you don't understand, if sex is easy for you to get then you're probably not going to fap to porn. But many Men are addicted to porn and it's having a detrimental effect on their lives and they're trying to stop to live better lives. Though i would say it might not be fapping that is the problem but porn, fapping might even be good for you if you can learn how to have orgasms without ejaculating which is apparently possible.
that's not my brain that's a 3d computer render of my brain
3-5 times a day for the past 23 years, sometimes it has been with a woman.
>Been a full 3 days without porn or fapping
>Blue balls on the 2nd night
>Deep ache in my testes and sensitive at the top already
>Friction burn on foreskin starting to ease
Bro's I know this is the beginning of the storm & I am probably only going to really get the bad withdrawals soon that is yet to come (lmao) but I feel somewhat better
You know you want to goon little b***h boy. Cum for me. Stroke it, keep on stroking it. Don't cum, just edge. Yeah, just like that, keep on stroking keep on stroking. Don't you dare think about cumming. I never knew you could ride the edge like that. C'mon, stroke faster, keep on stroking you can not cum. Lose your mind to porn.
I hope you have a moment of clarity one day soon and realise where your life went wrong
Where my NNN bros at?
Only broke the streak twice in January. I am feeling stronger now. My penis is working again. My lust for life and women has returned. I can once again feel the sunshine and hear the birds singing.
tfw your brain becomes purple instead of yellow
>stopped watching it more than a year ago back in February
>3 weeks after quitting I hook up with one of my female friends I've had a crush on forever and we're now dating
Can't be a coincidence
Does this happen if I just look at it but don’t touch my dick? I can’t really get a good erection going
the stupidity around here is astonishing
i dont fricking care
you dont really care about nothing do you
>off porn for 2 weeks, deleted folder
>moron brain trying to sabotage my dreams with porn images
Feels like it's going to get more difficult before it gets easier
~2 weeks seems to be a common point for people to relapse
Noooooo!!!!! U cant just watch porn!!! U HAVE to risk getting a disease and unwated pregantcy!!!!!!
>the only alternative to porn is unprotected sex with diseased prostitutes
the mental state of coomers
or israelites. Not sure which he is
Yes, condoms work 100% and u cant catch anything from oral
>if you dont jerk off to porn you have no choice but to impregnate a woman with STDs
this is what nofappers believe
what if I fricked your dad in the ass?
Bro, I don't fap because it's weird and weak. I get erections a cat couldn't scratch. I don't fap because I control my urges, not the other way around.
oh see. You larp as LE BASED STOIC NON-DICK TOUCHER.
You're also obviously an incel because instead of "controlling your urges" you would be using them to a frick a girl like a normal man.
But why do you become so unhinged and emotional at the thought of other men rubbing one out in the shower twice a week?
This is a very strange obsession. A fetish you might call it.
I didn’t jerk off for the first time until I was 23. I was a kissless virgin before that.
It’s now almost 10 years later. I’m still a kissless virgin. Doesn’t matter if I went weeks/months without jerking off, or jerk off every day to vanilla solo amateur girl videos. Never changed my social behavior towards trying to get women. Only difference was cumming in my sheets every week while sleeping
Man I knew this board was more full of meatheads than the usual but you really eat this sourceless bait right up, don't you?
>yeah bro just jerk your dick bro it's easy bro just cum all the time!
Are you impotent?
Are you addicted to jerking off?
Does anyone here seriously believe porn is as bad as heroin?
Yes.
Go outside. There are plenty of casual porn consumers who are living happy, fulfilling lives. I challenge you to find the same with heroin users.
Fixating on nofap won't change the things that are actually wrong with your life.
If you consumed heroin like you do porn, you'd be dead.
Also, get off this website, and don't come back. I wish you the best of luck quitting.
>If you consumed heroin like you do porn, you'd be dead.
which is why porn is more worse. A heroin addict has to moderate his consumption, a porn addict doesnt. Imagine what happens to the brain after 20 years of non-stop porn consumption.
>porn is worse than shooting yourself because you have to moderate your intake of bullets!
Get a grip.
Cut the self pity, and act like a man.
>make a comparison that may or may not be accurate depending on your point of view
>IST incel screams some gibberish about acting like a man
>>make a comparison that may or may not be accurate depending on your point of view
That's a great way to excuse a dumb comparison
Its very legitimate comparison. Go look up the effects porn and heroin have on the brain and see for yourself.
Its not my fault you are a brain damaged porn addict in denial.
Every single "sucessful" person I know (including myself) doesn't mastrubate or watch porn. But hey you do you, go jerk your dick idgaf.
You go just around asking successful people if they watch porn or jack off?
And if they do, you expect them to actually tell you the truth?
And yet not a single nofap incel ever became anything more than incel who doesnt jerk off.
why cant you accept some people have trouble with porn? lmao
Porn addict here.
I think it is. There's an unlimited supply and you can never overdose on it. You just want more and more and develop new fetishes all the time.
It fries your dopamine receptors to the point that nothing else in life gives you pleasure and lose motivation to do anything but watch more porn.
And its new each time. Heroine is the same experience over and over. With porn you get a novel experience every time you click a link or thumbnail
Has there ever been a study done like this on hentai or furry porn? I'm a massive coomer and find I only ever notice negatives from it when watching real people frick, so I rarely do. Obviously no porn would be the best outcome, but I'm curious to see if our brain can tell the difference.
DAILY REMINDER THAT EASY ACCESS TO PORN IS A CHINESE PSYOP TO REDUCE WESTERN BIRTH RATES DULL THE MASSES AND THEN MOVE IN TAKE OVER AND MAKE THE REST OF THE WORLD FALL IN LINE WITH CHINESE COMMUNIST "VALUES"
I thought it was israelites?
THE CHINESE ARE THE israeliteS OF ASIA
> the most sanest response amongst a sea of schizos
I completely lost all sex drive like a month ago. No desire to look at porn or jerk off.
Will it come back?
I feel my mind empty when I watch porn, feels like I'm becoming an NPC minute by minute. Frick porn and frick israelites.
>coom
>scalp starts itching
>pimple appears tomorrow
F-frick.
>don't coom for a month
>acne goes away
>dandruff goes away
>hair is thicker
>voice is deeper
>more self confidence because you are mastering your impulses
Try it. What do you have to lose?
>>don't coom for a month
>acne goes away
>dandruff goes away
>hair is thicker
>voice is deeper
none of that happened
>more self confidence because you are mastering your impulses
and yet you still cant look a girl in the eye and say hello and you never will
This level of cope is astounding. I wonder if you're some kind of demoralization shill.
chads are cooming inside girls every day, and the fact their balls are drained for weeks is not causing them to lose hair, have acne outbursts, growing hairs out of their hands, etc etc
you are the one on a major coping spree
you really believe you suddenly developed tranime powers because you didn't touch your micro dick for a while lmao
your brain works differently when you coom inside your girlfriend. being a little cuck boy watching another man RAVAGE a prostitute on camera has a different effect on your brain.
nofap all this time has been a thing aimed at homosexual teenagers that can't stop touching their dick. noporn should be a real thing because that's the first thing on this list. now when it comes to adults who can frick, you can go whereever you want. you can set up an argument for playboy chads vs semen retention chuds but that's for another thread.
>your brain works differently when you coom inside your girlfriend
fricking moron
>
well then by that logic you can just watch solo porn. you nofap tards are coping with the fact that you can't talk to women. you think staying in your room pretending to be productive and healthy because you don't watch porn doesn't make you a cuck. chad is fricking the girl you were too afraid to talk to and it's not related to your porn consumption
>chads
>tranime
>cope
you're far gone man
Voice thing doesnt happen
easypeasy worked for me for a month before personal life hardship made me relapse
didnt watch porn at all when i was having routine sex. i wonder if that's biological at all...
>busty woman in vicinity
How am I supposed to concentrate? I have no problem with women that are attractive but not busty, but the moment a girl has large breasts then something honestly changes.
Is this how women look at fit guys too?
It's like I would always smash a girl that is 6/10 but with great breasts, much rather than a girl that is 9/10 but is lacking in the breast department.
No fap changed my life
Fapping always brings me bad luck
>have job
>can't fight the post work/gym fap urges
>get laid off
>go without fapping longer than I expected
>get hired
>back to old habits
Oh, I really am using porn and fapping as a cope for stress.
>girl shows clear signs of attraction to me first time in a fricking decade
>urge to fap stops
>urge to look at porn stops
I'm not even memeing, it is like I do not want to cheat her by looking at other women
>limp dicks coming up with excuses for why they can't stay hard and how it's actually a problem for men that can
Not jerking off makes me, without exageratting, 3 times more intense mentally. Its like im a different person. I know this board will make excuses because its filled with cumbrains and losers. Anyone who doesnt have the soul of a slave knows its bad for u.
porn is boring anyways. the free shit is cut so that you never actually have a good nut. once you are privy to it basically being a girl pretending and she's not actually genuinely enjoying it, its boring. for me, its hot when a woman actually likes it and has an orgasm. porn is just not enjoyable, its designed to be "decent" but almost tries to edge you. I get jerkin it once in a while, 3+ a day is a problem. Nothing beats the real thing, and cumming in my gfs throat is the best sensation ever.
I don't care about the schizo arguments, for me the most annoying part is the time lost. But I can't quit for more than like a week as long as I have internet access, it's a shitty addiction.
How exactly is porn harming any of you guys? Im actually curious how porn is stopping you from living a normal life.
Even the worst of worst degenerates seem to somehow be living a much better life than porn watchers according to IST
this
also if porn is the 1 factor in your life from living a happy life, you never had a life to begin with. You can't complain about having a shitty life when you dont even have one and your actual problem is desiring one
I'm not for banning porn and don't give a shit if someone else consumes it, but it has a negative impact on my life:
>time lost I could spent doing something productive
>less sensetivity in my wiener, literally unable to nut during sex
>generally shitty feeling of doing something again and again you don't want to do
I know most of these revolve around excessive consumtion/addiction, but in that regard it's definetly harmful.
I can understand if you are spending way too much time on it. Then yes, change your way of life.
But is this true for the majority of people here? I guess I am projecting myself onto to others thinking you only watch it maybe once a night before bed.
its unironically one of the greatest degenerative tools ever devised and certainly one of the best manipulators of young men. society would be completely different if it was banned to produce, possess, sell, etc. the western world would be infinitely better if sex was not done for pleasure but solely for rearing children. sex outside of marriage is destructive and i regret ever partaking in it but its the culture i was brought up in and i refuse to blame my mother for my failures.
>t. atheist
you know how influential computers have been for finance? that is how influential porn is over society. everybody and anything has become sexualized. there is no such thing as romance for >80% of the population. just food, frick, trauma dump, and accept their lot and condition in life. there is no growth, because porn isnt meant to grow an individual but waste them away, slowly, over time. like bloodletting.
I would argue IST is worse than porn
It certainly has the potential to be, on certain boards. IST, if you avoid certain posts, is among the healthiest. I dont come here as much as I used to due to the omnipresent degeneration of this site. The quality of the site would increase dramatically if all lewd/porn posting was banned.
I don't think it's meant to be the only thing you need to do to cure yourself of being a massive fricking loser, but one of the many things things you do to improve and master yourself.
It's like how if you're a loser and you start lifting you'll just be a loser that lifts, you have to work on other areas of your life as well.
Makes sense.
A bit extreme anon. But at the same time I didn't realize just how much porn you guys may have consumed on a daily basis
even if you only masterbate once a week, over years it will inevitably add up and fundamentally change how you interact with others and what you desire and seek. It's extreme because it is the inevitable end to those that masterbate, I know because I have walked that road for at least 10 years. One of the biggest tests for the modern right to really be successful is the need for it to distance itself from sex and go back to romance and marriage. without this condemnation, they are doomed to neoconservatism and ultimately, defeat.
sex is a pacifying, degenerative thing. Childrearing is not. The relationship between sex and childrearing is akin to the relationship between alcohol and water. Both are liquid, but one is infinitely better for you and vital for survival, but the former is socially pushed on you and expected of a "healthy" member of society.
>for the modern right to really be successful is the need for it to distance itself from sex and go back to romance and marriage
And that's why you will never win, sex sells you homosexual, it feels amazing especially raw and premarital. I say embrace the degeneracy and enjoy the ride down to society's inevitable implosion.
Self control feels more amazing. But you wouldn't know because you're weak.
We are all here for less than a fraction of a blink of an eye, in 3 billion years, hell in 100 years it won't mean a thing that you've denied yourself pleasure and lived your life piously, I want to enjoy my time on this Earth so i will continue to bathe in the mud, slop around with the pigs and get my dick wet
>We are all here for less than a fraction of a blink of an eye, so i will spend my time jerking off to other guys fricking girls i want to frick
holy kek, thanks for the laugh.
I was more along the line of: you're going to die someday sooner than you think so why live a life denying yourself pleasures? But you can choose to interpret it how you want 🙂
But you can't use this reasoning for live. If i thought im gonna die today i'd eat slop and be more unhealthy in general. You need to think long-term to not make shit decisions, or you might end up being unhealthy, obese and hating your life when you could've avoided it. You can't use death as an excuse to be degenerate and frick up your health by eating all the slops,drinking,taking drugs etc.
>But you can't use this reasoning for live.
I can and do. I eat well and train my body to be a weapon and to be able to take what I want. Life doesn't just hand over good pussy to fat fricks who take no pride in themselves.
There is satisfaction beyond carnal pleasures, but you wouldn't know.
Sex isnt degenerate moron, its quite the opposite, maybe you meant casual sex, or perversions of sex. Sex in general is necessary and productive.
casual sex, yes. sex that is not done with the purpose of procreation.
>bro just watch porn it's fine oy v- I mean on god frfr
>bro just use the internet and obey IST, oy v- i mean ong fr fr nocap
I make my own decisions. You jerk your dick and try to convince other men to do the same.
Porn is weird to me
Husbands and boyfriends willingly pimping their girl out for money
Doesnt sit right with me
Yes a lot of these pornstars have off camera boyfriends and husbands
theyre not even pimping them out, the guys are simps who are scared the girl is going to leave them, so they let her do what she wants
How could you kiss your wife at night knowing she's been gobbling down dicks all day?
I guess all is well when the money is rolling in. She probably has a breath mint or chews gum before the kiss.
So you'd kiss a girl who'd just sucked some guy's wiener as long as she's had a piece of gum or a mint afterwards?
>There is satisfaction beyond carnal pleasures, but you wouldn't know.
>yeah bro just watch other men frick women and jerk your dick! Totally healthy and normal!
>THIS IS YOUR BRAIN ON PLEASURE, PLEASURE IS BAD
Ok? Wait until anti porn morons realise that love is just an addiction to a person.
You're a moron. Porn and mastrubation is bad because you're short circuiting your dopamine system to reward you for something that requires no effort.
If you’re not constantly in post-nut clarity you are SUFFERING from pre-nut delusion
Reminder that this is the only video on his channel that got taken down. Do with this information what you want.
I am looking for resources to quit porn. Is conquer series legit?
If you stop watching porn, will your brain recover?