The site was already going to shit starting in 2012 without phonegays being involved in that, the election tourists in 2016 mearly sped that up. Luckily we can still make it great despite that. >t. phonegay
Natty lifting doesn't do anything
Roiders get all the pussy
Just having an ottermode physique is more than enough to attract women and recieve mires which can be reached within 6 months to a year. All roids does in that regards is speed up that process. The majority of women desire a body that's well within natty limit.
Any woman who actively goes to the gym sucks as a person. See a tomboy.
Not always but you have to know what you're looking for. For example, lack of clothing, 0 intensity, and recording are probably signs to look for. That's true that there's a higher concentration of prostitutes but that's also where the tomboys/puritans are at. If you don't want to deal with commercial gym bullshit, you can also go to a gym with a focus on sports or go to another place where it's traditionally manly such as cars, woodworking, guns and so forth.
i want to believe ill make it but deep down i think its genuinely over. it just is. nothing will save me from being a genetic dead end. the best i can do is ignore it with random things until life hits me on the head and i self loathe about it some more. how do i reach acceptance? how do i start living with what i have?
>nothing will save me from being a genetic dead end
What kind of dead end are you refering to? Ugly face, shitty insertions, missing a limb or even a mental handicap? Either way, we can work with these drawbacks and make it regardless of how bad it might seem. >life hits me on the head and i self loathe about it some more
Instead of using coping mechanisms as a way to shield yourself from that source of pain, take action to solve the root cause of those issues even if it's painful. Now it could be as simple as learning to love yourself including the bad parts or it could be a multi-year process of doing X, Y and Z. Either way, take it slowly because things don't change overnight. Focus on one thing at a time, things can change. >how do i reach acceptance
Depends what kind we're talking about. Accepting the past? Forgive who or whatever wronged you, extrapolate any lessons you can, resolve any loose ends you might have and move on. They can't hurt you anymore but now it's your responsibility to march forward to a better tomorrow.
Accepting things you can't change? Amor fati or the love of fate. Learn to love yourself, even the bad things in your life whatever they may be. It's a part of what make you well, you. The stoics also have a great excerpt on attachment and acceptance. A thing to help is to sit down and think, what do you actually give a shit about? What do you actually value in your life? Either way, detach yourself from those blackpills. You are not your ugly face, you aren't your defects and you are not your thoughts. Self-actualization through growth and goals including zero fricks given will be the biggest thing that'll lead to acceptance and help you move on.
>how do i start living with what i have?
A quote I like to think of is, "once you lose everything, you can do anything." You are your only judge, make that choose and do what you want. Desire isn't a bad thing but don't let it dictate your life. Appreciate what you have in your life and allow yourself to be happy.
One way or another, it doesn't disprove or prove what I say. Take what I say with a grain of salt as it may not apply to you though posting body won't do that either.
https://i.imgur.com/eIN6SUU.jpg
we should aspire to be like this
Kek'd and based.
Hey whitepill me about hitting a wall after 30 or some shit like that.
>as a woman
You should settle down with someone and start a family first, then go to school to have a career. The job can wait but if you want kids, the sooner, the better unless you want downies. >what if i dont want any
That's fine but don't use that as way to start b***hing, be happy with what you have and make the most out of it. >as a man
That's mearly just expectations placed upon you but the reality is you can start doing shit when you want even if it's late compared to other people. You will start feeling more tired but it's not debilitating as most people make it out to be, you can work around the issue and still achieve great results.
Back when I was really fit was also the closest I ever came to an hero-ing. I think over coming whatever executive dysfunction I had, and gaining autonomy over my own body, also gave me the willpower to try and end it. I think some people were just not meant to have success. I certainly couldn't handle it.
Happiness is not something to be obtained with gains. It’s something you should obtain exactly where you are.
summerized it pretty well but I'll add to it. You can also reference the post above as well. Lifting wasn't the cause of your depression, it was mearly masking the root cause of it. Doing a little bit of introspection can allow you to identify the root cause of the issue and solve it accordingly. I'd still suggest lifting even a little bit as that will help overcome your depression. Another thing is live in the present. Mindfulness like meditation could also help you out. Based on your post, the biggest blackpill for you is your mindset. The mindset acts like a negative feedback loop which is incredibly self-destructive if not fixed. The whitepill is this is fixable, sever one link and the whole chain falls. >how would i go about fixing this
Clear your mind of clutter, clean up your diet, exercise even if it's a little bit, read up on life affirming philosophies and try something new. Detachment and meaning are something that you could look into if it's more of "why am I here" or "what's the point of living". Another thing I like to use is something called one more good day. As long as there's a possibility of another good day, there's always a reason to keep going. It could even be as simple as a vitamin D deficiency.
No matter how much I lift, I'll never be strong enough to help the chubby weird kid I was in middle and high school
You can check out the post above. It does suck that you couldn't help your younger self or change your circumstances but all we can do is let go and make the most out of the time you're given. The best thing you can do for your younger self is to not compromise your current self and become the person you wanted to be.
>Lifting wasn't the cause of your depression, it was mearly masking the root cause of it.
I never thought it was. It was the change of lifestyle to be being healthier that lifted the fog I was living in. Unfortunately that fog was what was keeping my depression at bay. That's my best interpretation of what was going through my head at the time anyway. That whole period of my life is a blur to me now. >Doing a little bit of introspection can allow you to identify the root cause of the issue and solve it accordingly.
If anything, I'm inside my head too much. >The mindset acts like a negative feedback loop which is incredibly self-destructive if not fixed.
No shit. >how would i go about fixing this
Like I said
Believe me I really wish I could. Whatever is wrong with my head is not something I can think my way out of.
whatever is wrong with my brain I don't think is just a toxic mindset or nihilism. I've been depressive and had on-and-off suicidal ideations since I was around 9 or 10 years old.
I also have a lot of cluster A personality disorder markers, and I'm probably diagnosable as a schizoid.
My point is I probably need to be medicated. I gaslight myself by telling myself I can't because I'd lose my job and be confined to low income debt slavery, but truthfully I just don't want help.
Thanks for reading my blogpost.
Lifting is (and should be for all) nothing more than a task running in the background. In fact, I don't even tell people I lift
"Improving" is beta. What makes someone the most "fit" is having the best genetics. Your ability to attract females is the ultimate indicator of whether or not you are "fit", and that is a biogical fact. Ask any female and they will tell you they'd prefer a man to be "fit" by doing natural things such as lifting heavy equipment at their job/home. Going to a gym with A/C and sitting on cushions pulling on cables is extremely feminine. I'd never admit to something like that. It's exactly why tanning beds are feminine. Tell a girl you tan in a bed, see what happens. Then tell a girl your tan comes from working outside. Totally different responses
Going to the gym is inherently beta. "Chad never had to self-improve" is entirely correct. A good mate is one who has good genetics. One that is big and strong by simply existing, not because he bought protein powder and pulls on strings 5 days a week. If you were a skinnyfat, weak male - you have bad genetics. It doesn't matter if you rise above them. Give yourself a pat on the back for improving but nonetheless, you aren't the most suitable mate.
Think of it like this - who do you think the girl is going to choose? A 6ft guy who was once a 5'6 manlet but got that bone lengthening surgery? Or a guy who was naturally tall? Yeah, exactly. 0% chance I tell girls I go to the gym. "Nah, I just played sports in high school and college"
autistic as frick. never had any help from my parents cuz my sister was the golden child. I'm dyel, but have been getting a better physique since I started going to the gym 6 months ago.
i'm just tired. i'm 30k away from feeling like I'm set salary-wise (90k atm).
in truth, I'm very WAGMI, but I'll be 29 in 2 months & I'm very single. went on a date with a very sweet girl who I'm not really attracted to unfortunately. I used to be an 8/10 (per women I was friends with in college), but now I'm definitely more of a 7 based on age alone.
I just need to get this cert, get a better salary, & keep hitting the gym & I'll be happy with myself, I think. I'll focus on getting the girl when I have money & am closer to hitting my dream physique.
I think I can pull ahead in my early 30s, if I don't die of exhaustion first.
>there are no jannies on this board and its dying finally
>there are no jannies finally
ftfy
maybe once people get bored of the novelty of coomposting it'll be a net good thing...
>implying this is a bad thing
phoneposters ruined IST & IST
The site was already going to shit starting in 2012 without phonegays being involved in that, the election tourists in 2016 mearly sped that up. Luckily we can still make it great despite that.
>t. phonegay
Just having an ottermode physique is more than enough to attract women and recieve mires which can be reached within 6 months to a year. All roids does in that regards is speed up that process. The majority of women desire a body that's well within natty limit.
Not always but you have to know what you're looking for. For example, lack of clothing, 0 intensity, and recording are probably signs to look for. That's true that there's a higher concentration of prostitutes but that's also where the tomboys/puritans are at. If you don't want to deal with commercial gym bullshit, you can also go to a gym with a focus on sports or go to another place where it's traditionally manly such as cars, woodworking, guns and so forth.
How else am I supposed to shitpost at work?
i want to believe ill make it but deep down i think its genuinely over. it just is. nothing will save me from being a genetic dead end. the best i can do is ignore it with random things until life hits me on the head and i self loathe about it some more. how do i reach acceptance? how do i start living with what i have?
>nothing will save me from being a genetic dead end
What kind of dead end are you refering to? Ugly face, shitty insertions, missing a limb or even a mental handicap? Either way, we can work with these drawbacks and make it regardless of how bad it might seem.
>life hits me on the head and i self loathe about it some more
Instead of using coping mechanisms as a way to shield yourself from that source of pain, take action to solve the root cause of those issues even if it's painful. Now it could be as simple as learning to love yourself including the bad parts or it could be a multi-year process of doing X, Y and Z. Either way, take it slowly because things don't change overnight. Focus on one thing at a time, things can change.
>how do i reach acceptance
Depends what kind we're talking about. Accepting the past? Forgive who or whatever wronged you, extrapolate any lessons you can, resolve any loose ends you might have and move on. They can't hurt you anymore but now it's your responsibility to march forward to a better tomorrow.
Accepting things you can't change? Amor fati or the love of fate. Learn to love yourself, even the bad things in your life whatever they may be. It's a part of what make you well, you. The stoics also have a great excerpt on attachment and acceptance. A thing to help is to sit down and think, what do you actually give a shit about? What do you actually value in your life? Either way, detach yourself from those blackpills. You are not your ugly face, you aren't your defects and you are not your thoughts. Self-actualization through growth and goals including zero fricks given will be the biggest thing that'll lead to acceptance and help you move on.
>how do i start living with what i have?
A quote I like to think of is, "once you lose everything, you can do anything." You are your only judge, make that choose and do what you want. Desire isn't a bad thing but don't let it dictate your life. Appreciate what you have in your life and allow yourself to be happy.
This anime movie was boring shit
Why is it being spammed here
Natty lifting doesn't do anything
Roiders get all the pussy
Any woman who actively goes to the gym sucks as a person. See a tomboy.
we should aspire to be like this
I refuse to take ypu seriously on anything until body is posted
One way or another, it doesn't disprove or prove what I say. Take what I say with a grain of salt as it may not apply to you though posting body won't do that either.
Kek'd and based.
>as a woman
You should settle down with someone and start a family first, then go to school to have a career. The job can wait but if you want kids, the sooner, the better unless you want downies.
>what if i dont want any
That's fine but don't use that as way to start b***hing, be happy with what you have and make the most out of it.
>as a man
That's mearly just expectations placed upon you but the reality is you can start doing shit when you want even if it's late compared to other people. You will start feeling more tired but it's not debilitating as most people make it out to be, you can work around the issue and still achieve great results.
>it doesn't disprove or prove what I say.
Yes it does. Cope. Digits and you post body or stop making these threads.
>Yes it does.
NTA. How?
We are om a fitness board. The first thing someone must do is prove that are fit before giving life advice.
So if I’m married and have kids, the wall doesn’t apply to me. 🙂 that’s great anon, much thanks
Hey whitepill me about hitting a wall after 30 or some shit like that.
Back when I was really fit was also the closest I ever came to an hero-ing. I think over coming whatever executive dysfunction I had, and gaining autonomy over my own body, also gave me the willpower to try and end it. I think some people were just not meant to have success. I certainly couldn't handle it.
Happiness is not something to be obtained with gains. It’s something you should obtain exactly where you are.
Believe me I really wish I could. Whatever is wrong with my head is not something I can think my way out of.
summerized it pretty well but I'll add to it. You can also reference the post above as well. Lifting wasn't the cause of your depression, it was mearly masking the root cause of it. Doing a little bit of introspection can allow you to identify the root cause of the issue and solve it accordingly. I'd still suggest lifting even a little bit as that will help overcome your depression. Another thing is live in the present. Mindfulness like meditation could also help you out. Based on your post, the biggest blackpill for you is your mindset. The mindset acts like a negative feedback loop which is incredibly self-destructive if not fixed. The whitepill is this is fixable, sever one link and the whole chain falls.
>how would i go about fixing this
Clear your mind of clutter, clean up your diet, exercise even if it's a little bit, read up on life affirming philosophies and try something new. Detachment and meaning are something that you could look into if it's more of "why am I here" or "what's the point of living". Another thing I like to use is something called one more good day. As long as there's a possibility of another good day, there's always a reason to keep going. It could even be as simple as a vitamin D deficiency.
You can check out the post above. It does suck that you couldn't help your younger self or change your circumstances but all we can do is let go and make the most out of the time you're given. The best thing you can do for your younger self is to not compromise your current self and become the person you wanted to be.
>Lifting wasn't the cause of your depression, it was mearly masking the root cause of it.
I never thought it was. It was the change of lifestyle to be being healthier that lifted the fog I was living in. Unfortunately that fog was what was keeping my depression at bay. That's my best interpretation of what was going through my head at the time anyway. That whole period of my life is a blur to me now.
>Doing a little bit of introspection can allow you to identify the root cause of the issue and solve it accordingly.
If anything, I'm inside my head too much.
>The mindset acts like a negative feedback loop which is incredibly self-destructive if not fixed.
No shit.
>how would i go about fixing this
Like I said
whatever is wrong with my brain I don't think is just a toxic mindset or nihilism. I've been depressive and had on-and-off suicidal ideations since I was around 9 or 10 years old.
I also have a lot of cluster A personality disorder markers, and I'm probably diagnosable as a schizoid.
My point is I probably need to be medicated. I gaslight myself by telling myself I can't because I'd lose my job and be confined to low income debt slavery, but truthfully I just don't want help.
Thanks for reading my blogpost.
No matter how much I lift, I'll never be strong enough to help the chubby weird kid I was in middle and high school
Lifting is (and should be for all) nothing more than a task running in the background. In fact, I don't even tell people I lift
"Improving" is beta. What makes someone the most "fit" is having the best genetics. Your ability to attract females is the ultimate indicator of whether or not you are "fit", and that is a biogical fact. Ask any female and they will tell you they'd prefer a man to be "fit" by doing natural things such as lifting heavy equipment at their job/home. Going to a gym with A/C and sitting on cushions pulling on cables is extremely feminine. I'd never admit to something like that. It's exactly why tanning beds are feminine. Tell a girl you tan in a bed, see what happens. Then tell a girl your tan comes from working outside. Totally different responses
Going to the gym is inherently beta. "Chad never had to self-improve" is entirely correct. A good mate is one who has good genetics. One that is big and strong by simply existing, not because he bought protein powder and pulls on strings 5 days a week. If you were a skinnyfat, weak male - you have bad genetics. It doesn't matter if you rise above them. Give yourself a pat on the back for improving but nonetheless, you aren't the most suitable mate.
Think of it like this - who do you think the girl is going to choose? A 6ft guy who was once a 5'6 manlet but got that bone lengthening surgery? Or a guy who was naturally tall? Yeah, exactly. 0% chance I tell girls I go to the gym. "Nah, I just played sports in high school and college"
autistic as frick. never had any help from my parents cuz my sister was the golden child. I'm dyel, but have been getting a better physique since I started going to the gym 6 months ago.
i'm just tired. i'm 30k away from feeling like I'm set salary-wise (90k atm).
in truth, I'm very WAGMI, but I'll be 29 in 2 months & I'm very single. went on a date with a very sweet girl who I'm not really attracted to unfortunately. I used to be an 8/10 (per women I was friends with in college), but now I'm definitely more of a 7 based on age alone.
I just need to get this cert, get a better salary, & keep hitting the gym & I'll be happy with myself, I think. I'll focus on getting the girl when I have money & am closer to hitting my dream physique.
I think I can pull ahead in my early 30s, if I don't die of exhaustion first.
>on getting the girl when I have money & am closer to hitting my dream physique.
Someone post the old man Wojak.
>went on a date
>an singular date
he is in the process of making it