I will forever believe that "muscles don't matter bro" "you'll gas out bro" "technique is everything bro" are astronomical cope until I see otherwise.
Post/link ANY clips where the skinny guy beats the bigger, muscly guy in a fight
I will forever believe that "muscles don't matter bro" "you'll gas out bro" "technique is everything bro" are astronomical cope until I see otherwise.
The fat guy always wins.
>how a 60kg guy runs into a 260kg guy
that looks like fricking fun
meanwhile, IRL:
and those were athletic fat guys
>Runs straight into his gut, not his legs or neck/head
>WOW HES IMPOSSIBLE TO TAKE DOWN!!!
As if he had any neck to target
Now I'm curious how much muscle the big dude has because most at 260 kg wouldn't even be able to stand let alone throw a kick like that.
>inside 2 minutes
Inside WHAT?
THE SQUARE CIRCLE
Most body builders are around 5'4 to 5'10
thats how these boxer and MMA fighters would stand a chance.
Now if you take the average small body mma or boxer dude vs some 6'2+ beast mode builder then its no competition
It is IMPOSSIBLE to convince martial fartists a cowboy action athlete would absolutely DESTROY them in a fight.
here you go moron
Literal judo throw, hahaha.
There have been a few bodybuilder v. BJJ matches. Here's one:
And then there was this:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-1885448/Video-Carolina-Panthers-Taylor-Hearn-knocked-brutal-street-fight.html
6'4", 315 muscular professional football lineman got knocked out in a street fight.
Also not necessarily "skinny guy" but basically big muscular guy vs skinnyfat dadbod, pic-related. One of those guys obviously put a lot more effort into his body.
>plenty of pussy eating
Absolute homosexual.
Go there and tell him that and he’ll frick you in the ass, you punk white boy. You homosexual. You can’t touch him, you’re not man enough. He'll eat your butthole alive you b***h. Frick you, you hoe. Come and say that to his face and he’ll frick you in the ass in front of everybody. You b***h. Come on you b***h. You scared coward, you not man enough to frick with Tyson [Fury]. You can’t last two minutes in his world b***h. Look at you scared now you hoe. Scared like a little white pussy. Scared of the real man. He’ll frick you till you love him homosexual.”
>hit with a leg kick
He’s sprawled out on the ground for 10 minutes
gg no re
>t. Scared like a little white pussy
pikey lover
Post that recent baseball knock out, it was funny, just few wild haymakers and one landed on the glass jaw.
This guy would have destroyed both of them even if they came at him 2 on 1
Holy shit, is that pre delta force?
i think it was when he was in the regular army, so yes
https://youtube.com/shorts/62NJWuOsYAo?feature=share
Powelifter here obviously has some boxing training and still gets beaten
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https://youtube.com/shorts/QIwSmmnQndU?feature=share
wouldnt say the little guy 'won' but he dropped the big dude
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there are loads more but you get the gist of it
Power lifter has no stamina, they never train cardio like boxers do so they gas out as long as you can dodge their hits. Plus looks like the guy is on roids, the powerlifter that is.
also makes me lol when the powerlifter claims hes 190 to get an 'easy fight' when he's obviously in the low 200s at least and he still gets schooled.
> Usin jiujitsu as an example of small guy defeating the big guy, shifting goal post.
That's not what this thread was about, try and have them do greco-roman wrestling and I'm certain the bigger guy will win if you want to make a similarity claim.
they do no gi towards the end with bradley martyn (the bodybuilder) trying wrestling takedfowns to no avail.
Also i posted like 6 other examples, some of boxing, some of street fights. All with the smaller, more skilled guy winning.
Theres also that powerlifter guy who challenged an MMA fighter to a fight and died lol
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The difference is again unskilled individual vs skilled individual vs rules that permit tricks that benefit the smaller stature guy to win.
Absolute cope. Who do you think benefits more from rules, the water buffalo with no skill and no stamina, or the conditioned and skilled guy, who could easily eye gouge, joint yank, etc. if allowed to.
Same dumbshit these kung fu guys that get their ass kicked claim.
Have you seen KotS where they even allow biting and gouging (although they receive no bonuses) Saw one fight were the smaller guy bit the guy's ear and still lost to the bigger guy. Dirtiest fighter in the scene and still loses every fight, lmao.
KotS is full of morons who can't make it in any other promotion.
Those are more akin to street fights anyhow in a 1v1 situation, they are over in a flash as well.
Also the argument was unskilled roid head/fat guy vs trained twink. You can literally find KotS fights where the exact opposite happens.
Linked - https://youtu.be/nLQLvswM8Ys
Le Banner is a skilled kickboxer who wasn't familiar with Muay Thai. Despite a 100lb difference it went to decision and Banner had his legs mangled.
The literal title of the thread is
>Post/link ANY clips where the skinny guy beats the bigger, muscly guy in a fight
What about all the street fights lol?
Heres the problem. Because you dont actually have any fighting experience, you have this idea/scenario in your head of how a fight will go down.
You, the bigger guy close in on the smaller guy and grab him as he tries to punch you to no effect and just instantly crush him or throw one or two shots that knock him out instantly or you mandhandle them to the ground and do ground and pound.
But how it actually goes is that a smaller guy either keeps distance and throws shots at you while you clumsily stumble forward trying to grab him and get KO'd or you try to grapple and get out-grappled, with the fight ending with you slept in a hold of some sort. Or on your back being bludgeoned. People always overestimate their fighting skill until they actually fight someone trained. You'd gas sooner than you'd think, you'd be way more off balance and uncoordinated, your punches wouldnt have the power you think they do, you wouldnt know how to manage distance and would just get lit up.
If you havent actually had a fight with someone that has skills in fighting you just dont understand how big the gap between untrained and trained for years is.
Its like a DYEL seeing a dude squat 5pl8s and say "yeah i can do that", i did running it carries over. Thats what you're doing.
tell that to countless mma pro with 20-0 records getting knocked out by randoms
>countless
wasnt it literally one dude? Who was drunk out of his mind and was sucker punched. Also dont think he was 20-0 and the dude that knocked him out wasnt much bigger than him. Keep coping though. Or you can actually start training some form of combat sport to stop your weird insecurity.
keep thinking humans become shonen shit anime protaganists the moment they train mma. Learning fluent german must give access to secret nazi bunkers and robo hitler.
see
Literally just a drunk BJ Penn sucker punched by a fat Hawaiian dude, but okay.
I don't get why martial arts (all of them) are what causes homosexual nofights to act like this.
Nobody goes "oh yeah I lift so much I could easily be the star quarterback for any football game" or "oh yeah I lift so much I could totally dominate anyone in soccer", but as soon as it comes to fighting they think they would stand a chance with zero training, when none of them even know how to throw a proper combination of punches.
Ego
Everyman thinks man fight and frick.
>my superior strength will save me
>gets manhandled and then literally murdered by 155lb guy
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Dumb ogre russian with no fighting experience obviously shifting goalposts here again.
okay what are your goalposts?
The op is about size/strength vs skill. Skill obviously wins every time
Are you trying to now say that im denying skilled guy who is also big will beat a smaller skilled guy?
Are you just moronic?
Two skilled fighters with enough experience to enter a ring of their choosing by a promo that hires amateurs at least to fight.
Kickboxing is literally Muya Thai lite...
>no elbows
>no low kicks for the longest time
>no clinching
>no dumps, trips or throws
stop being a fricking moron
Yes people are fragile only 20 pounds force on chin knock out anyone in the world.
Its more that i think the video very much disproves this idea that big guys get where they think " it doesnt matter if hes trained im 50 lbs heavier I’ll just pick him up and throw/crush him” . That video is how it goes down in reality. There is even a portion where they grapple and the 155lb dude is throwing the 250lb powerlifter around like its nothing. Untrained people's idea of how they'd act in a fight rarely align with their actions in a real one.
every scenario not going to play out the same hence stories of pros getting knocked out by randoms wouldnt exist no?
>continue hitting unconscious opponent
certified Black person behavior
Whether or not you can get your brain around it it's real. If bodybuilders were good boxers they would be raking in tens of millions of dollars. Shaw and Haftor and Hall will gas out within a minute.
You can believe anything you want, it has no bearing on reality. Go ahead and believe it.
Imagine the homosexual that makes a pic like that. I imagine it’s a dyel manlet cope. Who gives a frick “dismantle” hahaha
its got to be some kid. Get your chest that big you have to train and progressive overload for years not just do drugs. That alone you beat 90% of gym goers in dedication. If someone can follow the methods to get big they can just as easy learn mma.
No that's not it. There ain't no skill is going to make Haftor able to take on one of the top super heavyweights and be able to physically move around the ring like he should be able to. Different body types. He would have to start his body again from scratch at 16, then maybe he has a chance.
tell that to jack paul youtuber zoomie kiddo beat nate diaz triathalon athelete training boxing mma forever.
What you talking about, Jake Paul was a high level wrestler since highschool and so should have the basic physiology and then he did years of training. Even then he has never actually beaten a professional boxer, only elderly MMA gimmicks dragged out of their retirement homes. The one he did fight Tommy Fury he got destroyed.
it's just RNG anyways, just first to get a lucky strike to the head
It's a turbocope
"Haha this dyel is actually a talented cage fighter. Grrr I look like him therefore I too am cage fighter! I will not lift or I will be like picleft and weak!"
I can actually chime in on this argument since I would quit martial arts after a week or two several times but have been lifting fairly consistently for 15 years+ and am a big guy for you.
When I was younger and training sambo I would spar with a guy who was an elite kickboxer. My background was football (lel) and strength training . I had a good amount of weight and muscle on him so anything grappling related, like clinching I could ragdoll him but he was able to strike me extremely hard and efficiently, in fact he caved in my sternum and it was fricked for a while (dude had a bad reputation for sparring way too hard).
The other dudes I sparred with who were around the same size as him I could practically kill if I wasn’t careful because of the strength difference. They weren’t world class tier like the other dude but they were trained.
How strong is a dude? How trained is a dude? There’s levels to this shit but I would take a punch from a trained 110 lb fighter over an elite strength athlete who weighs 250 lbs any day of the week. It’s not so black and white m8s don’t be daft
And this is a trained big guy. Against an untrained big guy the KO would happen within 30 seconds.
All it would take is a couple solid leg kicks and the overweight body builder (they are all overweight regardless of muscle) would be limping, then he is dead.
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>out at the bar feeling confident, been training mma like a badass
>see some qt and start chatting her up
>mention I'm a fighter and even though I don't look big I could kick any there's ass
>she says ohh yeah, how about the big guy over there?
>of course baby
>she says I'll go get him
>nervously laugh and say wait, I could go to jail and might kill this guy
>she looks at me with a bit of disgust
>so have you even fought any one?
>uhh in the ring haha, come watch me
>she starts walking away
>blurt out, wait I can protect you!
>she says, whatever dweeb and flashes open her purse revealing pepper spray and a guy
>see her go over to the big guy
>get depressed, go home, make a cope thread on IST
>open her purse revealing pepper spray and a guy
Take your giantess fetishism back to /d/
so what do boxers do for exercise outside of actual boxing?
Lots of bodyweight exercises.
https://www.sportskeeda.com/mma/mike-tyson-workout
Generally zero cross over with stereotypical bodybuilder routines.
depends on the boxer. Some lift weights. Some do bodyweight stuff. Some do nothing but running or skipping. Some do all of the above.
Boxing in itself is a pretty good workout.
see pic in
That is the workout of a world heavyweight champion
MMA homosexuals are always so insecure.
I myself was fighting against an MMA instructor years ago. I was a typical gym rat and he was an MMA homosexual. I was taller, heavier and more muscular but that guy wanted to prove that he can beat a bigger, stronger guy. He did not know that although I did not train any martial art, I had watched a lot of MMA fights for years.
The fight was pretty quick. I beat the shit out of the guy by headbutting him into his nose repeatedly. It was one of my best moments in life so far.
Doesn't matter how hard you punch if you can't land a hit.
>bob sapp vs mirko cro cop
%3D%3D
To be fair I wouldnt necessarily call cro cop "skinny", but he is considerably smaller than sapp