>proves that you can get big despite having a shitty diet if you pin enough

>proves that you can get big despite having a shitty diet if you pin enough

Huh, looks like roids really are a magic pill.

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  1. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    that you can get big despite having a shitty diet
    Durrrrrrrrrr

  2. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Guy was eoing gymnastics at 12
    Olympic dive at 15
    Gym since 17
    He would be big even without the roids
    I don't think he's on a super high dose of roids

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      He definitely has good genetics, but his training is pretty shitty. Far too many partials and ego lifting. The gear is doing a lot of work here.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Look at Arnold lifting. Everything he was doing was wrong, shit and out of ranges for hypertrophy. Then he went off and said he was just on T and dbol.
        Genetics brah. Science based troony lifters in shambles now.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          How much T?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            100ml T + 50ml dbol at mr Olympia shape

            (don't really like mpmd stuff but at least it's there)

            At least Arnold used full ROM.

            for 50 reps kek
            but look sulek squats pretty well kek

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              Bodybuilders are full of shit about dosages, but it's true that genetic elites can get away with a lot less gear. I know a guy, a wrestler, he was deadlifting 300kg/660lbs at 18. He used a lot less shit then most guys did.

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              >ml
              it would be mg not ml

              100ml of a 200mg/ml testosterone preparation would be 20 grams of test

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          At least Arnold used full ROM.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            If you believe that going beyond failure isnt a viable option for stimulating a Black person growth response then I dont know what you are even doing in the gym, dude

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              *bigger

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              >I dont know what you are even doing in the gym, dude

              Well, I bench in the high 300s, so I'm doing okay. You keep doing the meme shit you see guys on 5 grams of gear doing on youtube, though.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                Okay, yeah, but I fricked your ugly mother in the ass last night which disproves your worthless opinion, buddy

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              >stimulating a Black person growth response
              But enough about your mother's routine

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >his training is pretty shitty. Far too many partials and ego lifting.
        He trains harder than 99% of this board. You fricking jelly moron.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Listen, moron. I've already been though this phase. It's pretty easy to train like a moron and grow when you're eating a frick ton of food and blasting stupid doses of gear. I used to do it in my 20s. He's not huge because of his moronic training, he's huge because he has genes and pins.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Stop the LARP, you're some DYEL homosexual.

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              >h-he's just training hard
              >it's not the steroids

              You're a child.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                Ah yes, vials and needles lift heavy weights for him, you absolute moron.

                No one is denying that he's roiding, but show me a roiding gay homosexual bodybuilder that actually lifts as heavy as he does. Protip, you won't.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Ah yes, vials and needles lift heavy weights for him, you absolute moron.
                Yes, they literally do, you fricking moron. Do you understand how androgens work? When you're on something like tren, you're DYING to slam some weights around.

                >show me a roiding gay homosexual bodybuilder that actually lifts as heavy as he does.
                Ronnie Coleman says hi. And that's why he's in a wheelchair now. Most other bodybuilders are smart enough to realize you can ge the same results with lighter weights, full ROM and higher rep ranges. I used to say the exact same moronic bullshit you're saying now when I was in my 20s. Then I realized I could get the same results with half the dosage if I just learned to train correctly.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                Show me one science troony lifter that STAYS as big as those guys that isn't cbum

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                Show me one ego-lifting moron that gets big without copious amounts of gear.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                what’s good homie

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                You're half the size of the people we're talking about lol.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                anyone double my size is not natty no matter their training style

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                You haven't been paying attention to the conversation, have you?

                except i didn’t have the same results before i started doing this. different strokes for different folks, i don’t know why that’s so hard to understand. there is not one blanket advice which works for everyone

                >there is not one blanket advice which works for everyone
                Yes, there is. You're not a special snowflake.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                If he stop roiding he'll deflate back to DYEL within two months, just like any roidtroon, thanks to permanently fricked up natty test production.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                You have reading comprehension of a Black person.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                Point still stands 100% (unlike your dick).

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                The steroids build the muscle independent from the training. The training is just to maintain the steroid + natty foundation gains.

                For example lets say your natty bench is 100kg for 5. Then you take anavar everyday for a week without training. The first day back in the gym after a week the 100 kg will feel lighter and you might get 8 reps. The extra muscle and strength came on it's own from the steroids and then when you go to the gym you can demonstrate that new strength.
                That's why on steoids forums so many guys say that suddenly "the weights felt light" after starting a cycle.

                The only point to working out on steroids is to solidify the gains that the steroids created so it becomes the new baseline for further gains over time.

                That's why individual bodybuilders need xxx mg of steroids to get to a certain lean mass stage weight. Then they get hard stuck at that weight just like a natural gets hard stuck at his natty limit (limited by natty test). Then when the bodybuilder wants to get to the next level and increase his lean stage weight he will increase the dose to yyyy mg which will cause the steroids to create new muscle. Working out simply maintains that new muscle as it's being built and the body adjusts it's muscle mass upward to the new hardstuck level.

                Eventually pro bodybuilders become perma-hardstuck no matter what dose they use they can't gain any more muscle, and they look the same each year. They hit the absolute muscle mass limit for their body using the current drug technology.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                Jejsjjsjsshje

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >huge

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              he's smaller than a 32 y/o former top 10 at the olympia? woah

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                >he's smaller than a 32 y/o former top 10 at the olympia? woah
                after the former top 10 at the olympia retired, stopped blasting and lost 25lbs

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                >stopped blasting
                lol
                >lost 25lbs
                Oh so he's ONLY 255lbs of muscle? Gee whiz bro he's so small.

                You're such a jealous little twat.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                why would I be jealous of a roidtroony, i feel pity mainly

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                Nah, you're extremely jealous. That's why you post constantly about him and save images seething about bodybuilders.

                You can stop at any time (you won't).

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'm unironically trying to stop people going down the dark path of steroids.

                If I can dissuade just one person, it's a victory.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                Get a job.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'm retired

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I'm a neet in my moms house
                That's one way to pretend to be retired.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                No, i have my own place. I just like to come on here and occasionally discourage people from using steroids by using memes that the youngsters can relate to. It's a public service I carry out for free.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                >occasionally
                This is your life. You live with your mother. You have no wife, no children. Nor will you ever.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                Stop projecting

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Just ask some of the amateur coaches that deal with normal people on roids that are jacked but aren't competitive bodybuilders. They will happily admit that their clients train like shit because they can get away with it, not because it works. If you have experience with female bodybuilders or coaches that train them it becomes even more evident.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >female bodybuilders

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Explain how is Sulek training like shit lol. He lifts heavy, does 9-11 sets per bodypart. Goes to failure and pumps the shit out of his muscles at the end of session.

            He trains better than majority of people. You're just jealous of some fricking ugly roided zoomer monkey. Holy shit.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      He is on Tren for sure. Has the acne, the shortness of breath, is like 3x the natural limit size. Probably a normal to high dose.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        I would be honestly surprised he was on tren. He's cutting for a month and something and his acne is gone mostly and the shape is still there.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          “cutting”

          dude stayed the exact same weight all that time. with the amount of muscle he already has just testosterone isn’t going to cut it

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Maybe he is currently off cycle or on a low dose, but he does do Tremendous cycles when bulking.
          An alcoholic who quits for 3 months but goes back to drinking is still an alcoholic. A roid user who is off cycle currently is still a roid user.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            the frick you on, you deflate almost instantly (a month worth of time) after you roid and quit, sometimes with no gain retention

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Okay.. I did gymnastics and competed in track since I was 7 and started lifting at 15 and 20 years after that I still wasn't big without steroids.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        shitty genetics
        the heck did you expect me to reply with? we know you know everybody knows

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          You just admitted you have inferior genetics. Congrats, now that you know your place you can get comfy in your subhuman existance and stop aspriring real greatness.

          No fricking shit that's the whole point you mongoloids. Genetics are everything. You are making a shitty fricking argument and don't even realize it because you're too fricking stupid.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            I see your point. Genetics are always implied moron. It's okay, I will give you a thumbs up for your efforts.
            There you go.

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              Yes, but the reason he's big is because of his good genes. Early training gives you a head start and can make you athletic and perform well, but it doesn't necessarily make you big. You're confusing correlation with causation here, and that's why I pointed it out to you. He did all that shit as a kid because he was gifted. I'm not disagreeing with your conclusion, I'm disagreeing with your reasoning.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        You just admitted you have inferior genetics. Congrats, now that you know your place you can get comfy in your subhuman existance and stop aspriring real greatness.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        beta trash genetics, dont reproduce

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Still look better than you buddy 🙂

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          I was state champ, surely the genetics weren't too shabby. Still doesn't mean someone gets big just because they've been training since their childhood. Maybe your idea of what's big is just a lot smaller than what I have in mind. Keep training.

  3. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >roids work

    Holy shit, anon!

  4. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    how is his diet shitty?
    all that matters is ur protein intake u mong

  5. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    He was IST's ideal build at 17 years old man.
    Also, he is autisticly meticulous about what he eats. He counts calories and macros in everything.
    Yes he eats shitty goyslop, but uts not like he just eats whatever he wants whenever he wants.

    I dont get the hate for the guy. Just some nice boy Midwest zoomer on roids who does down to earth lifting vlogs every day.
    None of his advice is that insightful, but he doesn't come off as a holier than though douche either.
    Litterally just milk toast zoomie with body dysmorphia.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      so much moronation contained in one post. impressive

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      If there were flags here I bet yours would be some 3rd world country, moron

  6. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    morons itt should give his training style a shot before downplaying it. i’ve been doing many partials and going till absolute failure for the past half year, i made pretty good gains with it

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      And you would have had better results if you went to failure with full ROM.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        except i didn’t have the same results before i started doing this. different strokes for different folks, i don’t know why that’s so hard to understand. there is not one blanket advice which works for everyone

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        That's the point, you reach failure with full ROM and then keep pushing past that point with half-reps

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        this board lost so much IQ lately

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Blame the pajeets

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sure, I've also made good gains training everything 5xAMRAP, taking every set to failure, I just ended up grinding my joints to dust. A new stimulus will always work to some degree, especially if you up the intensity, doesn't mean it's the best way to go about it.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        i feel you on the joints getting rough, i take 5 days off every 5 weeks.

        >doesn't mean it's the best way to go about it.
        sure, in theory. my point is that sometimes you’re better off experimenting for yourself what feels and works best. i’ve tried a brosplit, ppl, applied progressive overload and focusing on ROM had shitty results. this now works for me the best out of anything and i’m making gains like never before.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      this, watching his training made me accept form breakdown and partials and techniques to go 'beyond technical failure' and squeeze more out of my sets. He also does that while adding drops, supersets etc. He trains pretty darn hard even if his form is sloppy.

  7. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    > biology and nutrition doesn't apply to him
    cool story bruh

  8. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Counterpoint

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      what does that mean? isnt he natty these days?

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        At no point did he ever look good.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        He's on "TRT." If that doesn't satisfy you, here's coach at the peak of his roiding days.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >you just need ge-
          Oh...

  9. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Getting big is just lifting heavy and CICO. "Le shitty diet" literally means nothing.

  10. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    I mean he eats processed foods but he seems pretty strict with his macros and staying in a deficit when cutting.
    But he would obviously look like shit if he was natty. Low carb breads / all the other low carb processed shit he eats is pure slop.

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